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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 35,460 ✭✭✭✭Hotblack Desiato


    NUI graduates have excelled themselves again :rolleyes:

    https://www.irishtimes.com/news/politics/seanad-elections-michael-mcdowell-re-elected-after-r%C3%B3n%C3%A1n-mullen-tops-nui-poll-1.4217616
    Mr Mullen, a long-time anti-abortion campaigner, is the first NUI Senator in recent memory to win a seat on the first count.

    Scrap the cap!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,256 ✭✭✭alan partridge aha




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,513 ✭✭✭✭ohnonotgmail



    It is at times like this that i am especially grateful I chose Trinity.


  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 24,420 Mod ✭✭✭✭robindch


    NUI graduates have excelled themselves again :rolleyes:
    Great we are a diverse society
    The remit of democracy might well be diversified by electing the pompous, the fatuous and the intolerant but I'm not sure it's improved by doing so.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,352 ✭✭✭✭endacl


    I can vote for both the NUI and Trinity panels. At least according to the literature and ballots I was getting through the door. I only voted against the Mullins. I presume I ‘should’ only vote for one, but the question has only occurred to me now. Would it have been legal to vote in both? Morally, I’d be a bit iffy, but legally? Have I two votes?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26,676 ✭✭✭✭Peregrinus


    endacl wrote: »
    I can vote for both the NUI and Trinity panels. At least according to the literature and ballots I was getting through the door. I only voted against the Mullins. I presume I ‘should’ only vote for one, but the question has only occurred to me now. Would it have been legal to vote in both? Morally, I’d be a bit iffy, but legally? Have I two votes?
    Yes, you do, if you're a graduate of both universities, you brainy chap, you! And if you were also a county councillor you would have several more votes - one in each of the various vocational panels.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,256 ✭✭✭alan partridge aha


    robindch wrote: »
    The remit of democracy might well be diversified by electing the pompous, the fatuous and the intolerant but I'm not sure it's improved by doing so.

    Suppose you could be right, I often find the people who profess to be the most tolerant are anything but.


  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 24,420 Mod ✭✭✭✭robindch


    Suppose you could be right, I often find the people who profess to be the most tolerant are anything but.
    You'll have to point out who's lecturing people on how tolerant they are - since I can't immediately think of too many people. Or at least, ones who should be taken seriously anyway.

    But your general point is correct - people who lecture the world on the excellence of their own qualities usually lack those same qualities most abundantly - the prerogative of the malignant narcissist. One needs to listen no further than the RCC talking about "love", or the current occupant of the White House talking about just about anything.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,513 ✭✭✭✭ohnonotgmail


    Suppose you could be right, I often find the people who profess to be the most tolerant are anything but.

    perhaps you should familiarise yourself with this
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paradox_of_tolerance


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 35,460 ✭✭✭✭Hotblack Desiato


    The point isn't that this goon got elected. It's that he topped the poll while being in all probability highly unrepresentative of the views of NUI graduates as a whole. So the majority don't bother their hole voting, leaving the field open for the ex-Maynooth priests to swing the vote... There was a campaign to get NUI graduates to register and vote, it didn't work. Fúck 'em. Trinity have always elected high quality candidates, the NUI panel has always had its share of toothless FF types...

    Scrap the cap!



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,218 ✭✭✭✭Bannasidhe


    The point isn't that this goon got elected. It's that he topped the poll while being in all probability highly unrepresentative of the views of NUI graduates as a whole. So the majority don't bother their hole voting, leaving the field open for the ex-Maynooth priests to swing the vote... There was a campaign to get NUI graduates to register and vote, it didn't work. Fúck 'em. Trinity have always elected high quality candidates, the NUI panel has always had its share of toothless FF types...

    I never got my ballot paper. :mad:
    Shed load of vote for me bumf arrived so I am definitely on the register.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 35,460 ✭✭✭✭Hotblack Desiato


    That's pretty bad. It's a registered letter. I suppose that €5k I sent for your birthday never arrived either! ;)

    Scrap the cap!



  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 24,420 Mod ✭✭✭✭robindch


    Out of the blue, Bishop Quinn suddenly disagrees with somebody getting a job because of their sex:

    https://twitter.com/DavQuinn/status/1301086344920403969


  • Posts: 5,917 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    robindch wrote: »
    Out of the blue, Bishop Quinn suddenly disagrees with somebody getting a job because of their sex:

    https://twitter.com/DavQuinn/status/1301086344920403969

    Not in a least bit out of character for him


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 35,460 ✭✭✭✭Hotblack Desiato


    Of course it's been pointed out that the RCC is a firm believer in gender quotas... wouldn't be like not-so-super-Quinn to be an aul' hypocrite, now, would it?

    Scrap the cap!



  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 24,420 Mod ✭✭✭✭robindch


    In reports which should surprise nobody, it seems that cash from hardline conservative international billionaires has been funnelled, via Russian and Azerbaijan, to a range of hardline "catholic" and/or anti-lgbt/trans campaigning organizations, including the "Iona Institute".

    The twitter link contains links to a number of reports, including 'Chivalry Summer Camps' in Ireland (which I don't recall appearing here before) and which are advertized as being for 'boys between 12 and 18'.

    https://twitter.com/soundmigration/status/1409564791019028485
    https://www.epfweb.org/sites/default/files/2021-01/EPF%20TFP_EN_Oct30_0.pdf

    557095.jpg

    https://www.isfcc.org/summer-camps



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,063 ✭✭✭Christy42


    robindch wrote: »
    In reports which should surprise nobody, it seems that cash from hardline conservative international billionaires has been funnelled, via Russian and Azerbaijan, to a range of hardline "catholic" and/or anti-lgbt/trans campaigning organizations, including the "Iona Institute".

    The twitter link contains links to a number of reports, including 'Chivalry Summer Camps' in Ireland (which I don't recall appearing here before) and which are advertized as being for 'boys between 12 and 18'.

    https://twitter.com/soundmigration/status/1409564791019028485
    https://www.epfweb.org/sites/default/files/2021-01/EPF%20TFP_EN_Oct30_0.pdf

    557095.jpg

    https://www.isfcc.org/summer-camps


    Can you imagine the disappointment that would be going to a chivalry camp and not getting to go jousting.

    Weren't they questionable about their funding during referendums as well?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26,676 ✭✭✭✭Peregrinus


    I feel that as long as they're spending the money on "chivalry summer camps", our liberties are probably fairly safe.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,513 ✭✭✭✭ohnonotgmail


    Peregrinus wrote: »
    I feel that as long as they're spending the money on "chivalry summer camps", our liberties are probably fairly safe.

    they spent their money campaigning against every referendum in recent memory, spreading any number of lies in the process. I'm not sure I share your blasé attitude towards them.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,324 ✭✭✭JustAThought


    What language was that in the video???? Is that in Poland? Was that a Dublin GAA chequered flag flown or some medieval yoke?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26,676 ✭✭✭✭Peregrinus


    What language was that in the video???? Is that in Poland? Was that a Dublin GAA chequered flag flown or some medieval yoke?
    Oh God, I didn't watch the video. Life is too short, and, besides, I have to sort out the sock drawer or wash my shoelaces or something.

    According to the linked website, the summer camp was held at Glencomeragh House, which is between Carrick-on-Suir and Clonmel. What you took for Polish was probably the speech of some mountainy men who wandered down from the Nire Valley.


  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 24,420 Mod ✭✭✭✭robindch


    Christy42 wrote: »
    Can you imagine the disappointment that would be going to a chivalry camp and not getting to go jousting.
    Is that what it's called these days?

    Subtexts abound where young boys "between 12 and 18" are required to dress up in what appear, er, to be dresses and pull on another man's rope.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,513 ✭✭✭✭ohnonotgmail


    robindch wrote: »
    Is that what it's called these days?

    Subtexts abound where young boys "between 12 and 18" are required to dress up in what appear, er, to be dresses and pull on another man's rope.

    Some people have higher minds and such base thoughts would never occur to them.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,218 ✭✭✭✭Bannasidhe


    robindch wrote: »
    Is that what it's called these days?

    Subtexts abound where young boys "between 12 and 18" are required to dress up in what appear, er, to be dresses and pull on another man's rope.


    Link issues - my response can be seen here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m9wdYy3tCm4


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 35,460 ✭✭✭✭Hotblack Desiato


    Peregrinus wrote: »
    I feel that as long as they're spending the money on "chivalry summer camps", our liberties are probably fairly safe.

    They blew a cool half million of dodgy Russian cash on the abortion referendum.

    SIPO really need to initiate prosecutions over this, it is an entirely illegal attempt to subvert our democracy.

    Scrap the cap!



  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Entertainment Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Regional East Moderators Posts: 18,505 CMod ✭✭✭✭The Black Oil


    So, Dave is trending on Twitter due to his recent column and now it's gone international. Does anyone here read the ST?




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,728 ✭✭✭uptherebels


    Considering dave is a huge proponent of free speech (really freedom of consequence) he has restricted who can comment on his tweet about this. The neverending double standards from this lot.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 68,317 ✭✭✭✭seamus


    Look, at least he's finally come out and admitted it.

    I love how precisely he picked his language too so as to appear less racist, but inadvertently managed to be explicitly racist. "European Christians".

    Because if he had said just "Christians", then he might accidentally include the millions of African and Asian asylum seekers who are also Christian. If he had said just "Europeans", then that's a bit fluffy and he might accidentally have to include those weird Muslim countries like Turkey or Kazakhstan.

    No, "European Christians". Foolproof. No way you can be accused of racism then. Civilised, white people who believe in Jesus. You know, the "right" kind of people.

    Suddenly being called a homophobe seems like the least of Dave's problems.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 35,460 ✭✭✭✭Hotblack Desiato


    He may as well have just come out and said "white". Not fooling anyone but I'm sure his intended audience will lap it up.

    Scrap the cap!



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  • Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators, Regional South East Moderators Posts: 28,510 Mod ✭✭✭✭Cabaal




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