Today's bargain watch that I'm not buying

btkm8unsl0w5r4 · 01-04-2020 10:54pm

893bet wrote: »

It’s an authorised dealer! Watches of Switzerland.

What have we been saying about this watch for ages on the forum....I hate to say I told you so.....

893bet · 01-04-2020 11:04pm

Miley Short Tennis wrote: »

What have we been saying about this watch for ages on the forum....I hate to say I told you so.....

I knew you would like that one.

They change hands on tz for 2.8-3k sterling most weeks.

The extra ten percent off on WOS makes it a good deal....I am even tempted...

893bet · 01-04-2020 11:06pm

Lol

Someone using my post for discount below! Own up lads!

https://www.adverts.ie/19970015

Hogzy · 01-04-2020 11:33pm

Miley Short Tennis wrote: »

What have we been saying about this watch for ages on the forum....I hate to say I told you so.....

What have people been saying? I might be in the market for one and id like to know

banie01 · 01-04-2020 11:36pm

Hogzy wrote: »

What have people been saying? I might be in the market for one and id like to know

That Irish 2nd hand speedy prices are unrealistically high.

Time · 01-04-2020 11:46pm

893bet wrote: »

Lol

Someone using my post for discount below! Own up lads!

https://www.adverts.ie/19970015

It's not me (i have the same username) but it doesn't sound like he'll accept a fair offer. If it's 3665 for a new one with 5 year warranty from an AD, then a private second hand one out of warranty must only be worth €2,800 at the very most.

I'm going to sleep on it and see how i feel in the morning, I've never tried a Speedy but worst case i could return it.

unkel · 02-04-2020 12:13am

banie01 wrote: »

That Irish 2nd hand speedy prices are unrealistically high.

Not just speedies. Pretty much all high end watches on adverts.ie are overpriced with not enough room for negotiation.

These sellers are making the same mistake that Irish car dealers made during the first few years of the last recession. They stick to their asking prices as the cars "stood" a certain amount of money. And then they didn't sell the cars (surprise, surprise), so they lost a fortune on the depreciation and interest, which of course keep adding up just with the passing of time...

btkm8unsl0w5r4 · 02-04-2020 8:51am

Time wrote: »

It's not me (i have the same username) but it doesn't sound like he'll accept a fair offer. If it's 3665 for a new one with 5 year warranty from an AD, then a private second hand one out of warranty must only be worth €2,800 at the very most.
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Yep, at the very most. They have traded on the english websites for realistic money for years, but for some reason on adverts chaps put them up for mad money. They call them unworn even though they are out of their plastic and warranty is ticking down. I have called it out and been told I am a dickbag for doing that, but about once a week a thread goes up with people looking for a moonwatch.

893bet · 02-04-2020 9:36am

Time wrote: »

It's not me (i have the same username) but it doesn't sound like he'll accept a fair offer. If it's 3665 for a new one with 5 year warranty from an AD, then a private second hand one out of warranty must only be worth €2,800 at the very most.

I'm going to sleep on it and see how i feel in the morning, I've never tried a Speedy but worst case i could return it.

3k or so is about right.

Deals like the WOS one changes market perception how ever. Long ADs are shut the more deals will pop up from ADs

Deep Thought · 02-04-2020 10:01am

dman..should have held out selling mine:P

btkm8unsl0w5r4 · 02-04-2020 10:57am

893bet wrote: »

3k or so is about right.

Deals like the WOS one changes market perception how ever. Long ADs are shut the more deals will pop up from ADs

This is true, its one of those watches people buy for what it is rather than how it wear. What other watches might we see with deep discounts to be sold online....myguess.

Omega Seamaster 300 pro...old model ceramic with wave dial.
Tudor black bays of all sorts.

Birneybau · 02-04-2020 11:29am

Miley Short Tennis wrote: »

This is true, its one of those watches people buy for what it is rather than how it wear. What other watches might we see with deep discounts to be sold online....myguess.

Omega Seamaster 300 pro...old model ceramic with wave dial.
Tudor black bays of all sorts.

I love the fit of mine? Fairly sweeping statement there. Anyway, bought mine off a regular here, €2,700. Very happy with that.

oxocube · 02-04-2020 1:17pm

Miley Short Tennis wrote: »

Omega Seamaster 300 pro...old model ceramic with wave dial.

Post a link if you see one of these

Time · 02-04-2020 2:50pm

893bet wrote: »

Deals like the WOS one changes market perception how ever. Long ADs are shut the more deals will pop up from ADs

Something is only worth as much as the lowest price you can get it for. That's the reality for sellers, the best priced AD is the upper limit.

btkm8unsl0w5r4 · 03-04-2020 9:45am

Birneybau wrote: »

I love the fit of mine? Fairly sweeping statement there. Anyway, bought mine off a regular here, €2,700. Very happy with that.

What was meant was that people buy that watch more happily without trying it on because its seen as a staple of any collection, it doesnt matter how well it fits if you dont like it you can flip it easy. Its a big watch really but because its a moonwatch its forgiven that. I like the fit of mine also, omegas are very comfortable. €2700 is a good price, I got mine cheaper but not that much.:p

btkm8unsl0w5r4 · 03-04-2020 9:51am

oxocube wrote: »

Post a link if you see one of these

Here is a chrono use code EXTRA10 for ten percent more

https://www.watches-of-switzerland.co.uk/Omega-Seamaster-Diver-300m-Co+Axial-41.5mm-Mens-Watch-O21230425003001/p/17331037/

Good price there.

longshotvalue · 03-04-2020 9:59am

Seiko Prospex PADI SRPC41K1 only £220.

https://www.ernestjones.co.uk/webstore/d/5071534/seiko+prospex+padi+men's+blue+silicone+strap+watch/?cm_mmc=RLS-_-Affiliate-_-digidip+x+deal+sites-_-10&utm_source=Affiliate&utm_medium=LinkShare&utm_campaign=svunC25memk&utm_content=10&utm_term=UKNetwork&rmtsref=LinkShare&ranMID=39379&ranEAID=svunC25memk&ranSiteID=svunC25memk-Qukt8bAAIsvWpT52zzpFig

I did buy

unkel · 03-04-2020 10:17am

€250 with free shipping. That's a steal for a Turtle! And coming from the UK, so no import duty bill to be worried about (like if you order from Creationwatches)

Anyone who wants to buy this Turtle, but prefers the bracelet. I have a brand new original Turtle bracelet that I'm not using. I can do a swap with the rubber strap for a reasonable price, say €35?

longshotvalue · 03-04-2020 10:42am

unkel wrote: »

€250 with free shipping. That's a steal for a Turtle! And coming from the UK, so no import duty bill to be worried about (like if you order from Creationwatches)

Anyone who wants to buy this Turtle, but prefers the bracelet. I have a brand new original Turtle bracelet that I'm not using. I can do a swap with the rubber strap for a reasonable price, say €35?

It doesn't deliver to ireland, you need to use parcel motel, which costs another €3.50. Looks great value ..

unkel · 03-04-2020 10:57am

Turtle bracelet provisionally swapped already :-)

Ryath · 03-04-2020 11:04am

aidankkk wrote: »

Seiko Prospex PADI SRPC41K1 only £220.

Very tempted but I prefer the ones with the crown at 4 o'clock and don't like cyclops.

unkel · 03-04-2020 12:08pm

Fully agree on both points, it's a mini turtle and it looks just "cheaper" than the turtle imho. Also a slightly different movement 4R35 instead of 4R36? Not sure what the difference is there, probably the date only vs day/date?

Still a bargain for what it is. You can sell that in a year or two for pretty much your full €250 you pay now, I would have thought.

sparrowcar · 03-04-2020 1:21pm

unkel wrote: »

Fully agree on both points, it's a mini turtle and it looks just "cheaper" than the turtle imho. Also a slightly different movement 4R35 instead of 4R36? Not sure what the difference is there, probably the date only vs day/date?

Still a bargain for what it is. You can sell that in a year or two for pretty much your full €250 you pay now, I would have thought.

Everything sold out now. That must have spread like wildfire around watch circles.

unkel · 03-04-2020 1:24pm

Looks like a good few in here got one. Thanks to aidankkk for posting!

sparrowcar · 03-04-2020 1:44pm

unkel wrote: »

Looks like a good few in here got one. Thanks to aidankkk for posting!

This use to be a very popular thread a few years back. Open to correction but i think (Wibbs?) use to regularly post bargains of all sorts. If I recall we all went through the Vostok/Poljot/Luch/Raketa phase as well.
Good one to keep going again, who doesn't love a bargain.

unkel · 03-04-2020 2:50pm

Absolutely. More than a few times, I pulled the trigger because of this thread

Thanks also goes to peasant, who started this thread. Although we don't see him around here much these days, unfortunately. I bought my first proper swiss automatic watch because of him. ETA 2824-2 movement and all, brand new for the princely sum of €210 including shipment. Unbelievable value for money that was!

And also my first Vostok. If you're still around and get to read this, peasant, thanks man.

unkel · 03-04-2020 2:53pm

unkel wrote: »

Turtle bracelet provisionally swapped already :-)

The swapper didn't get the mini Turtle, there was a problem paying and now he is unlucky that it is sold out. So bracelet still available.

longshotvalue · 03-04-2020 2:59pm

unkel wrote: »

Looks like a good few in here got one. Thanks to aidankkk for posting!

I didn't unfortunately, they didn't like my revolut card (after accepting my order and taking payment) :mad::(, and it was gone when i went to re-order.

They'll be others

blue5000 · 03-04-2020 7:45pm

Is the mini turtle 22 or 20 mm lug width? The big turtle is 22mm. Tough you missed out there Aidan, lots more available I reckon.

blue5000 · 04-04-2020 11:08pm

Any relies in OZ? https://www.starbuy.com.au/seiko-prospex-automatic-padi-special-ed-watch-srpb99k

One Au dollar is equal to €0.56 which puts this at €238. There seems to be a clearout going on at Seiko.

unkel · 04-04-2020 11:13pm

23% VAT on the price + shipping + insurance and a €14 or so admin charge and it is not so much of a bargain any more (unless of course you don't get caught)

blue5000 · 04-04-2020 11:18pm

unkel wrote: »

23% VAT on the price + shipping + insurance and a €14 or so admin charge and it is not so much of a bargain any more (unless of course you don't get caught)

That's why I asked 'any relies?';)

CantGetNoSleep · 07-04-2020 1:37pm

893bet wrote: »

Brand new Speedmaster 3240 sterling

https://forum.tz-uk.com/showthread.php?469427-Omega-Speedy-WOS-on-sale-%A33240-new

I've been to'ing and fro'ing over whether to get this for the last week (aside from the fact that the EXTRA10 code no longer works on that).

Comes to 3700 or so assuming the code works / I find the same price elsewhere.

For the same price, I'd get a Speedmaster Reduced and Aqua Terra (links below). Have a small wrist so the smaller size of the reduced tempts me.

Any thoughts? Also welcome any view on whether the watches are genuine, no papers with either which is what is putting me off. The Speedmaster also seems suspiciously new and I never like the look of plastic stickers on a watch for some reason. Both are somewhat local to me so would be buying in person.

https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/503771030508996/

https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/218025572756852/

Cyclingtourist · 07-04-2020 3:14pm

CantGetNoSleep wrote: »

Any thoughts?

Personally I wouldn't buy anything off Facebook. If you're buying in person how you going to pay? How do you know who you're dealing with?

btkm8unsl0w5r4 · 07-04-2020 3:18pm

Dont buy a reduced...thats not the speedmaster you want and they are super small. I had one flipped it and the guy I flipped it to flipped it, we all took pain, there is not bottom to their depreciation. Dont do it, you wont be happy with it. Aqua terra is nice. Facebook is a disaster for buying, dont trust anyone. Box and papers is not the bee all and end all but it helps. Your money is safer in a new moonwatch than both those others to be honest especially if you can buy it right.

oxocube · 07-04-2020 4:27pm

Miley Short Tennis wrote: »

Dont buy a reduced...thats not the speedmaster you want and they are super small. I had one flipped it and the guy I flipped it to flipped it, we all took pain, there is not bottom to their depreciation. Dont do it, you wont be happy with it. Aqua terra is nice. Facebook is a disaster for buying, dont trust anyone. Box and papers is not the bee all and end all but it helps. Your money is safer in a new moonwatch than both those others to be honest especially if you can buy it right.

I'll second Miley Short Tennis on the speedy reduced. I bought one without papers for €1300 and swapped it quick sharp. The Aqua Terra is really nice but I'd buy one from a reputable place other than Facebook.

Lorddrakul · 07-04-2020 4:33pm

Miley Short Tennis wrote: »

Dont buy a reduced...thats not the speedmaster you want and they are super small. I had one flipped it and the guy I flipped it to flipped it, we all took pain, there is not bottom to their depreciation. Dont do it, you wont be happy with it. Aqua terra is nice. Facebook is a disaster for buying, dont trust anyone. Box and papers is not the bee all and end all but it helps. Your money is safer in a new moonwatch than both those others to be honest especially if you can buy it right.

oxocube wrote: »

I'll second Miley Short Tennis on the speedy reduced. I bought one without papers for €1300 and swapped it quick sharp. The Aqua Terra is really nice but I'd buy one from a reputable place other than Facebook.

I wouldn't go that far.

I've had some wrist time with a Speedmaster Mark 4.5 and a Reduced, and I've have the Reduced over either the 4 or 4.5.

A Reduced is not a Moon Watch, and so doesn't fill the same gap.

But in and of itself, the Reduced is a lovely watch and wears nicely for me, despite liking a 42mm case.

I'd say try one on before getting one is all, to avoid the reactions quoted.

btkm8unsl0w5r4 · 07-04-2020 4:43pm

Lorddrakul wrote: »

I wouldn't go that far.

Maybe fair to say so that 2 thirds of people find a reduced intolerably small and 100% agree that its no replacement for a moonwatch.

893bet · 07-04-2020 5:34pm

Another exspeedy reduced owner.

Troublesome and cheap feeling watch IMO.

CantGetNoSleep · 07-04-2020 5:35pm

Thanks all, appreciate the comments on the reduced. I've never tried one but my wrists are small (6.5" or so). I will listen and hold out I think - if others bought and regretted later, could see myself feeling the same.

Thirdfox · 07-04-2020 5:51pm

CantGetNoSleep wrote: »

Thanks all, appreciate the comments on the reduced. I've never tried one but my wrists are small (6.5" or so). I will listen and hold out I think - if others bought and regretted later, could see myself feeling the same.

As someone one who owns a few speedmaster professionals (different types) but not "the" moonwatch I think when looking at the reduced you have a lot of other compelling watches in that size, differing value propositions etc. that makes it not a "clear cut" winner.

But in terms of a chronograph at the speedmaster size - the watch itself (without consideration of any history/space value) makes for a good value proposition (at least it did prior to Omega's steady price increases over the years).

Not a matter of regret I think - I'm sure lots of people love the reduced too - but they may think "what else can I get in this size for this money (or less?)" - whereas many of those who get "the" Speedie have never really needed to decide "what else is there that fills this want?" because there isn't much out there like the Speedie.

Cyclingtourist · 07-04-2020 7:40pm

Thirdfox wrote: »

because there isn't much out there like the Speedie.

OmegaGene · 07-04-2020 9:15pm

CantGetNoSleep wrote: »

I've been to'ing and fro'ing over whether to get this for the last week (aside from the fact that the EXTRA10 code no longer works on that).

Comes to 3700 or so assuming the code works / I find the same price elsewhere.

For the same price, I'd get a Speedmaster Reduced and Aqua Terra (links below). Have a small wrist so the smaller size of the reduced tempts me.

Any thoughts? Also welcome any view on whether the watches are genuine, no papers with either which is what is putting me off. The Speedmaster also seems suspiciously new and I never like the look of plastic stickers on a watch for some reason. Both are somewhat local to me so would be buying in person.

https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/503771030508996/

https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/218025572756852/

no harm in having a look if they arent far from you, we all like different things and thats what makes the watch collecting so interesting, some say the reduced is too small and get the aquaterra, personally i cant stand the aqua shi77er but each to their own

have a look in the flesh and see what you think, it is hard to judge a watch without trying it on and that is also good fun

Eoin · 29-04-2020 12:39pm

Nice looking Seiko cocktail time on TZ-UK for GBP275

30-04-2020 10:07am

Casio MRW-200H £14.99 Amazon. Cheap beater or gift for child etc

https://www.amazon.co.uk/Casio-Collection-Mens-Watch-MRW-200H-1BVES/dp/B005FEYBXS/

Cyclingtourist · 30-04-2020 10:19am

Deleted User wrote: »

Casio MRW-200H £14.99 Amazon. Cheap beater or gift for child etc

https://www.amazon.co.uk/Casio-Collection-Mens-Watch-MRW-200H-1BVES/dp/B005FEYBXS/

Great watch, often wear mine.

£15 is the normal UK price. I got mine in Argos for €17.99 which is less than you will pay buying with Amazon. Wait till they reopen.

https://www.argos.ie/static/Product/partNumber/9025873/c_1/1%7Ccategory_root%7CJewellery+and+watches%7C14416987/c_2/3%7Ccat_15701267%7CMen%27s+watches%7C14417316.htm

01-05-2020 4:13pm

G-Shock GMW-B5000G-1ER €245

This is of the B5000 "full metal" series, albeit with a rubber strap.
The case is stainless steel with screwback. The majority of G-Shocks (since 1996) have resin cases with corner-screw casebacks. These models are quite a bit nicer and made in Japan.

fat bloke · 01-05-2020 5:32pm

How many non-German sales has that website lost for having "schmuck" in the title...

deise08 · 01-05-2020 7:44pm

Any opinions on whether a good price or not?
Would love the boba fett one, but would the mens watches be too big on a female? With 25% off at the moment..

https://www.hsamuel.co.uk/webstore/d/6008054/citizen+star+wars+princess+leia+limited+edition+watch/

Thirdfox · 01-05-2020 7:52pm

https://www.hsamuel.co.uk/webstore/d/6011942/citizen+star+wars+boba-fett+limited+edition+watch/ - this is the boba fett one you're looking at I think? With 25% off it'd be £203 - so around €233 - that's not too bad for a Citizen eco-drive I'd think - especially if you value the Star Wars tie-in.

It's a 43mm watch though - I'm a guy (with weedy wrists) and I don't like wearing anything above 42mm... here are some images of what 43mm looks like on ladies' wrists:
https://www.google.com/search?q=43mm+watch+women&client=firefox-b-d&sxsrf=ALeKk01SWyXh3ZeT9JNUDIE-z5M2xVyGLA:1588358833706&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwjF9bvgqZPpAhWkunEKHbZZA6UQ_AUoAXoECAwQAw&biw=1920&bih=966#imgrc=DoaYW-whgMP7PM

I think it might be a little too big (but you might like that style). The princess leia one at 31mm would generally suit ladies' wrists better (and men of a different era too) - see this 31mm Rolex datejust:
https://www.google.com/imgres?imgurl=https%3A%2F%2Fi.redd.it%2Fawl5q1vj3i621.jpg&imgrefurl=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.reddit.com%2Fr%2Frolex%2Fcomments%2Fa9iynu%2F31mm_datejust_from_my_grandfather%2F&tbnid=upVxcLyCS4s97M&vet=12ahUKEwiz0YHhqpPpAhWRSRUIHZADDk0QMygFegUIARCUAg..i&docid=a0uPACvhM0_95M&w=2760&h=4032&q=men%2031mm%20watch&client=firefox-b-d&ved=2ahUKEwiz0YHhqpPpAhWRSRUIHZADDk0QMygFegUIARCUAg

Today's bargain watch that I'm not buying

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