Dee Forbes banging the RTE TV licence drum again 60m uncollected fee poll not working - pl ignore

mgn · 10-12-2020 10:49pm

RabbleRouser2k wrote: »

Won't lose any pay. Suspended with pay.

A wise decision by Sky, the likes of Kate Burley would be snapped up by most News Channels around the world.
Where would the likes of our superstar Miriam go if she was sacked by RTE?
And the likes of Duffy, d'Arcy and Tubridy while we're at it
Answers on a postcard please.

jippo nolan · 10-12-2020 10:57pm

mgn wrote: »

A wise decision by Sky, the likes of Kate Burley would be snapped up by most News Channels around the world.
Where would the likes of our superstar Miriam go if she was sacked by RTE?
And the likes of Duffy, d'Arcy and Tubridy while we're at it
Answers on a postcard please.

Eurotrash?

fritzelly · 10-12-2020 10:59pm

If they suspended them and got other people in then everyone would realise how bad the lot of them are

elperello · 10-12-2020 11:00pm

mgn wrote: »

A wise decision by Sky, the likes of Kate Burley would be snapped up by most News Channels around the world.
Where would the likes of our superstar Miriam go if she was sacked by RTE?
And the likes of Duffy, d'Arcy and Tubridy while we're at it
Answers on a postcard please.

You may be right about KB, a commercial decision by Sky.

M O'C worked for both Thames TV and BBC before RTE. Doesn't mean she would go back to either of them if sacked. Maybe Virgin Media?

No reports of JD, RdA or RT breaching guidelines.

mgn · 10-12-2020 11:13pm

No reports of JD, RdA or RT breaching guidelines.[/QUOTE]

I never said the did, I'm on about how useless the are, but you know that anyway but you cant say it.

elperello · 10-12-2020 11:23pm

mgn wrote: »

No reports of JD, RdA or RT breaching guidelines.

I never said the did, I'm on about how useless the are, but you know that anyway but you cant say it.[/QUOTE]

Sorry for any upset, I thought we were talking about Covid 19 breaches.

I thought I could say what I like as long as I keep within site rules.

If you want to be my spokesman please apply through the normal channels

mgn · 10-12-2020 11:36pm

elperello wrote: »

I never said the did, I'm on about how useless the are, but you know that anyway but you cant say it.

Sorry for any upset, I thought we were talking about Covid 19 breaches.

I thought I could say what I like as long as I keep within site rules.

If you want to be my spokesman please apply through the normal channels

[/QUOTE]

You can say what you like.

But if anyone else says what the like about RTE, your on here to defend them straight away.

elperello · 10-12-2020 11:47pm

mgn wrote: »

Sorry for any upset, I thought we were talking about Covid 19 breaches.

I thought I could say what I like as long as I keep within site rules.

If you want to be my spokesman please apply through the normal channels

You can say what you like.

But if anyone else says what the like about RTE, your on here to defend them straight away.[/QUOTE]

Thank you I'm glad we cleared that up. Freedom of speech and all that.

I think you will find that the vast majority of my posts in this thread have been about the future of Public Service Broadcasting.

If I was to defend every anti RTE post on this site I'd get nothing done.

smurgen · 11-12-2020 12:21am

Seems covid rule breaking is taken seriously in other broadcasters. I wonder will any of the 45 found breaking covid rules at the RTE party be asked to step away? Also lol at RTE reporting.

https://twitter.com/rtenews/status/1337080190778961920?s=19

Kivaro · 11-12-2020 9:02am

smurgen wrote: »

Seems covid rule breaking is taken seriously in other broadcasters. I wonder will any of the 45 found breaking covid rules at the RTE party be asked to step away? Also lol at RTE reporting.

So funny ...... asked to step away ..... at RTE.
The reality is that a small number of them will be asked (nicely) to re-take some training, and Dee Forbes said that amongst the measures being implemented is a "very clear communications plan to remind everyone around the protocols of gatherings in RTÉ".

In order words, Dee is going to send an e-mail to remind the excessively-paid staff and stars not to get caught when they breach Covid rules in the future.

Elmo · 11-12-2020 12:37pm

elperello wrote: »

You may be right about KB, a commercial decision by Sky.

M O'C worked for both Thames TV and BBC before RTE. Doesn't mean she would go back to either of them if sacked. Maybe Virgin Media?

No reports of JD, RdA or RT breaching guidelines.

RTÉ would have commercial decision to make also, and on top of that they have pubic service decisions to make.

Thames TV lost its license in the 1990s, and its production company mainly produce light entertainment shows for ITV now.

M O'C and the rest should pop long to the BBC if they want, I am sure there is a place on BBC Scotland for her, I see her Mr. O'Callaghan has developed RTÉ Scotland up there. :pac:

elperello · 12-12-2020 12:50pm

Elmo wrote: »

RTÉ would have commercial decision to make also, and on top of that they have pubic service decisions to make.

Thames TV lost its license in the 1990s, and its production company mainly produce light entertainment shows for ITV now.

M O'C and the rest should pop long to the BBC if they want, I am sure there is a place on BBC Scotland for her, I see her Mr. O'Callaghan has developed RTÉ Scotland up there. :pac:

I'm conscious of the fact that we are probably engaging in idle speculation anyway. I'd consider there is little likelihood of any sackings.

Of course you are referring to Steve Carson. Though it's not unknown for men to take their spouses name on marriage I don't think he has.

Elmo · 12-12-2020 3:01pm

elperello wrote: »

Of course you are referring to Steve Carson. Though it's not unknown for men to take their spouses name on marriage I don't think he has.

I am being sarcastic because he got a job in BBC Scotland and largely produced RTÉ Scotland, without film, sport, imports or a Daytime schedule and he's be lambasted for it.

super_furry · 12-12-2020 3:07pm

smurgen wrote: »

Seems covid rule breaking is taken seriously in other broadcasters. I wonder will any of the 45 found breaking covid rules at the RTE party be asked to step away? Also lol at RTE reporting.

https://twitter.com/rtenews/status/1337080190778961920?s=19

She's been asked to 'step away' for six months on full pay. Imagine the uproar if Dobbo or Genuinely Miriam were given a six month break on full pay.

Elmo · 13-12-2020 8:18pm

RTÉ won't comment on their interest in buy a share of maximum media back in 2018, they will not denied documents relating to discussions to this exist. But imagine if that deal had gone through????

Elmo · 14-12-2020 11:27am

Said journalist have not only got her kids on that late late Christmas women's song ..... That's been completely forgotten about.... but no has them on a talent show....

Who told you you could sing?

Our mammy & twitter & everyone

RabbleRouser2k · 14-12-2020 2:12pm

Elmo wrote: »

Said journalist have not only got her kids on that late late Christmas women's song ..... That's been completely forgotten about.... but no has them on a talent show....

Who told you you could sing?

Our mammy & twitter & everyone

Did anyone even buy that song? The 'Irish women in harmony' one?

Checked official single charts, and checked the irish download charts... and can't find it anywhere.

Performed pretty badly, it seems.

sligojoek · 14-12-2020 2:23pm

RabbleRouser2k wrote: »

Did anyone even buy that song? The 'Irish women in harmony' one?

Checked official single charts, and checked the irish download charts... and can't find it anywhere.

Performed pretty badly, it seems.

The patriarchy are to blame for that.

RabbleRouser2k · 14-12-2020 2:25pm

sligojoek wrote: »

The patriarchy are to blame for that.

Fecking men, with their penises, and ability to lift things...

We're horrible, so we are...:P

Brock Turnpike · 14-12-2020 3:25pm

Elmo wrote: »

Said journalist have not only got her kids on that late late Christmas women's song ..... That's been completely forgotten about.... but no has them on a talent show....

Who told you you could sing?

Our mammy & twitter & everyone

Who is the journalist?

RabbleRouser2k · 14-12-2020 3:26pm

Brock Turnpike wrote: »

Who is the journalist?

Rosin Ingle.

Elmo · 14-12-2020 3:38pm

RabbleRouser2k I will not deny nor confirm the name

RabbleRouser2k · 14-12-2020 3:40pm

Elmo wrote: »

RabbleRouser2k I will not deny nor confirm the name

I plead the filth.... FIFTH...FIFTH!!!

DAmmit, Gerald Kean never said the inquiry would be this difficult.

I mean... uh.... no more questions.

:pac::pac::pac:

99nsr125 · 17-12-2020 4:01am

RabbleRouser2k wrote: »

Did anyone even buy that song? The 'Irish women in harmony' one?

Checked official single charts, and checked the irish download charts... and can't find it anywhere.

Performed pretty badly, it seems.

That's because it was shìte

fritzelly · 17-12-2020 4:03am

99nsr125 wrote: »

That's because it was shìte

Listened to it once - my ears wouldn't be able to take another beating

DrSerious3 · 17-12-2020 8:42am

RTE not publishing their list of top earners until 2021. They lead a charmed life.

ButtersSuki · 17-12-2020 9:10am

DrSerious3 wrote: »

RTE not publishing their list of top earners until 2021. They lead a charmed life.

Which year’s earnings is that referring to? 2017 I assume given RTE’s previous form in not releasing the figures for 2 to 3 years after the year in question. Might as well make it 4.

Who is Dee Forbes accountable to? No-one it seems.

RabbleRouser2k · 17-12-2020 9:15am

99nsr125 wrote: »

That's because it was shìte

Indeed. I didn't like how Ryan was trying to 'guilt' people into buying the song either.

Just donate to the charity-they get more money, and you don't end up with a crappy song on your playlist.

Kivaro · 17-12-2020 9:59am

DrSerious3 wrote: »

RTE not publishing their list of top earners until 2021. They lead a charmed life.

Accountability and indeed transparency are unheard words at RTE. Why should they tell the peasants who pay their wages what their millionaires are earning?

It is a strong possibility that they are also holding off on publishing their rich list until 2021 in the hope that the government will introduce the household media charge by then. This allows the government to charge each and every household in the country that has a "device" (phone/tablet/computer etc.) a tax that will provide RTE with an endless stream of cash.

By the way if you want to object to this household charge, you have just another couple of weeks to submit your objection at this link:
https://futureofmediacommission.ie/public-consultation/
There is a handy form on there for you to state your objection. It asks a number of questions, but you can skip those if you wish and just say no to the household media charge. Submissions can be made anonymously.

NIMAN · 17-12-2020 10:10am

DrSerious3 wrote: »

RTE not publishing their list of top earners until 2021. They lead a charmed life.

..... and the latest salary data we have is for 2016.

Why so far back?

It's a joke. So we won't find out what they are earning now until maybe 2024/25.

Elmo · 17-12-2020 11:39am

NIMAN wrote: »

..... and the latest salary data we have is for 2016.

Why so far back?

It's a joke. So we won't find out what they are earning now until maybe 2024/25.

Every two years

On 2 occasions they have back dated them, this will be the third time they do this

Last publication of these was in 2018 for 2016 and also 2015 AFAIK

2017 - 2019 postponed by 2 years
2018 - 2020 postponed by a year
2019 - 2021 should be published with above mid-2021 I suspect

They should name the spokesperson

Elmo · 17-12-2020 1:09pm

Kivaro wrote: »

By the way if you want to object to this household charge, you have just another couple of weeks to submit your objection at this link:
https://futureofmediacommission.ie/public-consultation/
There is a handy form on there for you to state your objection. It asks a number of questions, but you can skip those if you wish and just say no to the household media charge. Submissions can be made anonymously.

Interesting that it would be asked. So the so called Future of Media has already a pre-existing conclusion or conclusions.

The Meida Commission Days of future past.

17-12-2020 1:28pm

It is a complete stitch-up. The Politicians want their propaganda channel and RTE are more than happy to be it so long as they continue to enjoy the luxury they have become accustomed to.

Marcos · 17-12-2020 1:40pm

Kivaro wrote: »

Accountability and indeed transparency are unheard words at RTE. Why should they tell the peasants who pay their wages what their millionaires are earning?

It is a strong possibility that they are also holding off on publishing their rich list until 2021 in the hope that the government will introduce the household media charge by then. This allows the government to charge each and every household in the country that has a "device" (phone/tablet/computer etc.) a tax that will provide RTE with an endless stream of cash.

By the way if you want to object to this household charge, you have just another couple of weeks to submit your objection at this link:
https://futureofmediacommission.ie/public-consultation/
There is a handy form on there for you to state your objection. It asks a number of questions, but you can skip those if you wish and just say no to the household media charge. Submissions can be made anonymously.

You should probably post in the TV and radio forums.

Elmo · 17-12-2020 1:51pm

Marcos wrote: »

You should probably post in the TV and radio forums.

Really don't help promote this. The Future Past Of Media Commission was set up to report in 9 months time.

They have decided that the closing date for the public to be involved is the 8th of Janurary.

That's just the end of Christmas and in the middle of a pandemic. They themselves have promoted it little, that is their job, they aren't doing their job. and if one of the questions is

What do you think of a household charge?

it is because they have already decide that this is the conclusion that they will report on in 9 months time.

It is a pre-determined conclusion by academics.

Stovepipe · 17-12-2020 2:50pm

I agree. It's like watching a maths teacher demonstrating how to solve an equation; he already knows the answer. It's a foregone conclusion and my bet is that it will be enforceable by the Revenue, as it is in other countries. Default on your LPT (which includes the media charge) in France and the Revenue will be shaking out your pockets for spare change, backed by the Police.

17-12-2020 2:56pm

The difference between now and when it is introduced(if it is introduced) is that the press releases from Government and NGOs will still be carried by the media and the PR Officers will still dictate what is reported, when it is reported(embargos) and how it is reported but the Citizen will be forced to pay for the platform through which they disseminate their propaganda.

Kivaro · 17-12-2020 3:03pm

Elmo wrote: »

Really don't help promote this. The Future Past Of Media Commission was set up to report in 9 months time.

They have decided that the closing date for the public to be involved is the 8th of Janurary.

That's just the end of Christmas and in the middle of a pandemic. They themselves have promoted it little, that is their job, they aren't doing their job. and if one of the questions is

What do you think of a household charge?

it is because they have already decide that this is the conclusion that they will report on in 9 months time.

It is a pre-determined conclusion by academics.

Like so much of our lives in Ireland currently.
The bubble that many academics live in has no real semblance to real life.

Biafranlivemat · 19-12-2020 2:46am

Kivaro wrote: »

Accountability and indeed transparency are unheard words at RTE. Why should they tell the peasants who pay their wages what their millionaires are earning?

It is a strong possibility that they are also holding off on publishing their rich list until 2021 in the hope that the government will introduce the household media charge by then. This allows the government to charge each and every household in the country that has a "device" (phone/tablet/computer etc.) a tax that will provide RTE with an endless stream of cash.

By the way if you want to object to this household charge, you have just another couple of weeks to submit your objection at this link:
https://futureofmediacommission.ie/public-consultation/
There is a handy form on there for you to state your objection. It asks a number of questions, but you can skip those if you wish and just say no to the household media charge. Submissions can be made anonymously.

The fix is in.From the website

"Are you worried about fake news? Is independent journalism important to you and to society? Do the media reflect your experience of the world? What could they do better?"
There is no independent journalism left in Ireland and no Journalist can be independent, if they relies on the government subsiding their paycheck.

RabbleRouser2k · 19-12-2020 3:01am

Biafranlivemat wrote: »

The fix is in.From the website

"Are you worried about fake news? Is independent journalism important to you and to society? Do the media reflect your experience of the world? What could they do better?"
There is no independent journalism left in Ireland and no Journalist can be independent, if they relies on the government subsiding their paycheck.

The tragedy is that... an aspiring journalist gets into the job because they want to report the facts.
They don't want to be some spindoctor.

Or they end up reporting an absolutely s***ty news item that their editor insists is news worthy.

You just know that there are more and more journalists who wish to do exactly what that journo did, but they can't... cos a paycheck is a paycheck.

Elmo · 20-12-2020 3:49pm

Am I imagining it or were the political polls always announced on RTÉ Nine News the night before, with the political correspondents going through the the reasons that parties might have seen a drop and others might have seen an increase in support?

It seems now that RTÉ rarely make a statement on political polls. Why would this be?

Nothing on either last nights news or today's one o'clock news, nothing that I could find on their website.

RabbleRouser2k · 20-12-2020 4:51pm

Elmo wrote: »

Am I imagining it or were the political polls always announced on RTÉ Nine News the night before, with the political correspondents going through the the reasons that parties might have seen a drop and others might have seen an increase in support?

It seems now that RTÉ rarely make a statement on political polls. Why would this be?

Nothing on either last nights news or today's one o'clock news, nothing that I could find on their website.

Filling air time, tbh.

Not much else going on, really.

Elmo · 20-12-2020 5:56pm

RabbleRouser2k wrote: »

Filling air time, tbh.

Not much else going on, really.

But today they had a report on something minor surrounded by covid, uk new strain & dublin's win, so minor I can't remember what it was.

Atlantic Dawn · 21-12-2020 5:17am

There's circa 10 new presenters since Covid broke out on RTE weather, news, current affairs, should RTE hire 100 more people in the next year to stop these people being hired by BBC or CNN? Every other media company in the country is letting people go.

fritzelly · 21-12-2020 5:27am

Atlantic Dawn wrote: »

There's circa 10 new presenters since Covid broke out on RTE weather, news, current affairs, should RTE hire 100 more people in the next year to stop these people being hired by BBC or CNN? Every other media company in the country is letting people go.

And not one of them is up for the job - the new girl and guy they have on PT are useless beyond belief (the guy is worse)
Normally you see people working up to these kind of jobs but not in RTE

mgn · 21-12-2020 9:28am

fritzelly wrote: »

And not one of them is up for the job - the new girl and guy they have on PT are useless beyond belief (the guy is worse)
Normally you see people working up to these kind of jobs but not in RTE

The new girl is also on Morning Ireland now, she sure is going places fast for someone that was unheard of a few months ago.
At this rate she will be taking over the Late Late Show next year.

Kivaro · 21-12-2020 12:27pm

Atlantic Dawn wrote: »

There's circa 10 new presenters since Covid broke out on RTE weather, news, current affairs, should RTE hire 100 more people in the next year to stop these people being hired by BBC or CNN? Every other media company in the country is letting people go.

Speaking of Covid, there was "exponential" hysteria on the RTE Morning Ireland show this morning. The RTE presenter, rudely interrupted a virologist who was in the middle of answering a previous question, and was asked whether there should be a cargo blockade of UK goods coming into Ireland. When I say "asked", she (the RTE presenter) was actually making a statement, and hoping to hear confirmation ........ from the virologist about an economic blockade.

RTE; they can indeed be trusted ........ to continue with their partial and biased reporting of news and events.

mgn · 24-12-2020 6:08pm

What an embarrassment RTE is to this Country, Brexit trade deal agreed today and not a single presenter anywhere to be seen.

What was on RTE News Now when the news broke, a repeat of Nationwide,

What a joke these shower of clowns has become.

elperello · 24-12-2020 7:03pm

Just FYI extended Six One News on now.

mgn · 24-12-2020 7:36pm

elperello wrote: »

Just FYI extended Six One News on now.

What were the doing at 3pm today when the announced that a deal was done.

Dee Forbes banging the RTE TV licence drum again 60m uncollected fee *poll not working - pl ignore*

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Dee Forbes banging the RTE TV licence drum again 60m uncollected fee poll not working - pl ignore