Brexit consequences for Irish farmers

Politicians seem to be capable of settling nothing without at least one all night meeting right upnto the deadline of anything.
Brexit will be no different, I still 100% beleive a fudge of some sort will materialise that allows both the U.K. and EU say to their side that they got the better deal possible. The fudge may be the U.K. remaining or not but I don’t foresee the anarchy that some expect.

I don’t see flights being grounded etc, the fudge document will string enough stuff together to keep things going. Same for beef exports to U.K., I expect something will be done to keep Irish beef moving to the uk, damn sure Europe won’t want to see us turning to
Mainland Europe to offload beef, French farmers would burn it at the ports, i can’t t see an intervention scheme starting either due to cost.

_Brian wrote: »

Politicians seem to be capable of settling nothing without at least one all night meeting right upnto the deadline of anything.
Brexit will be no different, I still 100% beleive a fudge of some sort will materialise that allows both the U.K. and EU say to their side that they got the better deal possible. The fudge may be the U.K. remaining or not but I don’t foresee the anarchy that some expect.

I don’t see flights being grounded etc, the fudge document will string enough stuff together to keep things going. Same for beef exports to U.K., I expect something will be done to keep Irish beef moving to the uk, damn sure Europe won’t want to see us turning to
Mainland Europe to offload beef, French farmers would burn it at the ports, i can’t t see an intervention scheme starting either due to cost.

The eu on its part has belittled the Uk to the point they very well may let the clock rundown and suffer the consequences, a worrying trend was brought up where the top brass ceos and business-heads in London who where pro-eu all along have been turned and appalled by the Eu’s stance throughout the whole process with the lack of leeway given....
Anything is likely to happen at this stage a game of chicken is been played by both sides

kerryjack wrote: »

You know then who came in to this country and took our best land, you know them if you go on holidays to spain take the best spots by the pool. You know them that caused great suffering in south Africa when they wanted to take over the place. Do you know them now.

Some of my ancestors were Scottish planters, then married “real Irish” catholic’s in subsequent generations.

What do we do, send some back ?? I’ve an few sisters I’d be glad to see gone, or maybe we each chop an arm off and post it somewhere ?

Or Is the fact that they lay with catholic’s get us a pass of some sorts ?

It would be good to know as I’ll not bother going back to work if I’m headed back to Scotland, I say back but I’ve never ever been, I ate haggis once so maybe there’s something to your post after all.

I never holiday in Spain and definitely never harm any Africans, maybe there’s hope for me?

Oh, I’m also an Irish citizen with an Irish passport, I can play tinwhistle a bit, but nonirish dancing, and I think Guinness is awful

jaymla627 wrote: »

The eu on its part has belittled the Uk to the point they very well may let the clock rundown and suffer the consequences, a worrying trend was brought up where the top brass ceos and business-heads in London who where pro-eu all along have been turned and appalled by the Eu’s stance throughout the whole process with the lack of leeway given....
Anything is likely to happen at this stage a game of chicken is been played by both sides

Spot on

downcow wrote: »

kerryjack wrote: »

You know then who came in to this country and took our best land, you know them if you go on holidays to spain take the best spots by the pool. You know them that caused great suffering in south Africa when they wanted to take over the place. Do you know them now.

By they way you are talking maybe there is a fourth group you didn’t mention. Have a wee look in the mirror and say hello to one of the members

Don't get that one..what group am i in.

Willfarman wrote: »

kerryjack wrote: »

Don't get that one..what group am i in.

White skinned greedy dairy farmers buying up and leasing all the best land and feckin off to Spain to knock the Germans towels off the sun loungers while some Eastern European milks the cows.. And a bloody big sparkling South African rock on the missus finger.. go back to where ya come from ya hoors!

LOL great post

kerryjack wrote: »

I wish they pulled the pin and fuucjed off sick of it at this stage, never liked them anyway and if we could get a vote to run them out if the north i would die happy.

I'd say you're safe enough.
There is a 200 mile buffer zone between yourself and NI.

jaymla627 wrote: »

The Irish government no firsthand what the EU wants/enforces it gets (the guaranting of Anglo senior bond holders illustrates this) but if the Uk don’t blink and wto rules are placed on Irish beef/dairy going into their it will put milk back to 25 cent a litre consevatively and as for beef god only knows, I reckon the Eu would have zero issue making us the scraficial lamb to get their point across and if we are lucky a tiny token payment might come through to farmers

What your saying is one possibility, but in reality that is to nobody’s benifet so it’s the least likely outcome, single digit probability in my mind.

I still say the great political “fudge” will be produced to somewhat cover all parties involved.

The EU were never ever going to make this straight forward or easy. The Brits are like headless chickens making no sense and given what is going on in public is have little faith that anything professional is going on behind closed doors either.

Yes, this could all go diddys up for Irish farming, myself I feel it’s unlikely.

jaymla627 wrote: »

The Irish government no firsthand what the EU wants/enforces it gets (the guaranting of Anglo senior bond holders illustrates this) but if the Uk don’t blink and wto rules are placed on Irish beef/dairy going into their it will put milk back to 25 cent a litre consevatively and as for beef god only knows, I reckon the Eu would have zero issue making us the scraficial lamb to get their point across and if we are lucky a tiny token payment might come through to farmers

The UK have to be let join the WTO first, the EU or any other member could delay or block their membership, must be unanimous approval of their membership

Zeebsisgone654 wrote: »

The UK have to be let join the WTO first, the EU or any other member could delay or block their membership, must be unanimous approval of their membership

Wto rules apply its on page 30 of the action plan released today thy exact wording

I said wrote: »

Well will it be a disaster or opportunity for us?

Worrying times for the beef sector especially with a no deal brexit looking very likely.. I fear alot of suckler farmers will face a very tough coming year.

charolais0153 wrote: »

If suckler calfs are bad.finished stock are even worse.

Last week's journal on page 8 predicts a steady decline in beef exports over the medium term but I'd be fearful if there was a no deal brexit it will be a big shock to the irish economy and the agricultural sector.. I think your average suckler farmer is particularly exposed. If the beef exports to the UK market are even temporarily stopped in the event of a no deal brexit what kind of uncertainty will that create and indeed costs on beef finishers trying to offload cattle that factories might not have a market for.. it's all only speculation...lets just hope MP's in Westminster will pass Theresa Mays deal in January