Evictions

Sean.3516 · 17-12-2018 4:00pm

Zayd Quaint Marsupial wrote: »

Are you saying that the retired Garda Kevin taylor is lying that he didn't get get assaulted punched 20/30 times.

I’m saying there is no evidence to support him. It can’t be seen in the video. And if a beating that bad was occurring don’t you think the supervising Gardaí would have intervened?

l5auim2pjnt8qx · 17-12-2018 4:13pm

Sean.3516 wrote: »

I’m saying there is no evidence to support him. It can’t be seen in the video. And if a beating that bad was occurring don’t yt begs other ou think the supervising Gardaí would have intervened?

Yes I would have expected the gardai to intervene )see my early posts...makes it even more questionable.people need protecting in a society especially senior citizens if the law turns a blind eye -people and communities will make sure it happens.

Pussyhands · 17-12-2018 4:21pm

Ariana Shallow Mimicry wrote: »

They are paying what they can though - financial difficulty can hit us all unexpectedly. The "won't pays" aren't paying anything.

Personal responsibility means you should have an emergency fund set up to cover 6 months living costs.

I wonder how you would feel if you were renting a house to a tenant and they had "financial difficulties". Would you let them live there rent free?

Same thing with a mortgage. Let the house be repossessed and let someone who wants to live in it and pay a mortgage have it.

Seth Brundle · 17-12-2018 4:37pm

Zayd Quaint Marsupial wrote: »

Are you saying that the retired Garda Kevin taylor is lying that he didn't get get assaulted punched 20/30 times.

Nobody on here can say whether this did or didn't happen. We need for the garda investigation to view the footage and confirm it or drop it.
However, he wouldn't be the first Garda Taylor to have made things up!

Zayd Quaint Marsupial wrote: »

I would also like to think if I got into difficulty with mortgage that I would't want to be treated in this inhumane fashion that I live in a Democracy not a Dictatorship and I wouldn't have to leave the country or question my humanity...sickening

You mean that you'd like a fair hearing process and accept the outcome or would you ignore the outcome?
The same inhumane and sickening descriptions could be placed against the mob of vigilantes!

Askthe EA · 17-12-2018 4:39pm

Seth Brundle wrote: »

However, he wouldn't be the first Garda Taylor to have made things up!

Hah, I thought the same.

l5auim2pjnt8qx · 17-12-2018 4:44pm

Seth Brundle wrote: »

Nobody on here can say whether this did or didn't happen. We need for the garda investigation to view the footage and confirm it or drop it.
However, he wouldn't be the first Garda Taylor to have made things up!

You mean that you'd like a fair hearing process and accept the outcome or would you ignore the outcome?
The same inhumane and sickening descriptions could be placed against the mob of vigilantes!

A garda investigation didn;t find Maurice McCabe innocent a Tribunal did.

Garda investigating themselves doesn't lean to a fair hearing ,why do you think so?

Askthe EA · 17-12-2018 4:46pm

Zayd Quaint Marsupial wrote: »

A garda investigation didn;t find Maurice McCabe innocent a Tribunal did.

Garda investigating themselves doesn't lean to a fair hearing ,why do you think so?

Im confused by this.......... What are you trying to say?

l5auim2pjnt8qx · 17-12-2018 4:50pm

Askthe EA wrote: »

Hah, I thought the same.

So your implying he's lying

Claw Hammer · 17-12-2018 4:52pm

Sean.3516 wrote: »

And the security guards carried this out under Garda supervision which is fine by me.

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It is not the job of the Garda to supervise evictions, or did they. The Garda took part in facilitating an eviction by blocking roads and then ostensibly being present to ensure there was no breach of the peace did not intervene in an assault. GSOC are investigating. When someone refuses to vacate a dwelling or other premises the owner gets an injunction and if the person defies the injunction the owner has them brought before the court for contempt. If they refuse to vacate they are arrested by the Garda and brought to court and then to jail. that is the civilised way to do it. What was done in Roscommon by those bank hired thugs has no place in a civilised country. Nobody will buy that place from the bank after this. How could a new owner sleep there in peace?

Askthe EA · 17-12-2018 4:56pm

Zayd Quaint Marsupial wrote: »

So your implying he's lying

No. I meant I thought it was the same Garda.

jd · 17-12-2018 4:57pm

DubCount wrote: »

There is a left wing political element that disagree with any evictions, in any circumstances.

A lot of the people involved are not left wing eg Ben Gilroy and associated Freemen types.

ELM327 · 17-12-2018 5:00pm

jd wrote: »

A lot of the people involved are not left wing eg Ben Gilroy and associated Freemen types.

The less said about that nutjob and group of nutjobs the better tbh

gctest50 · 17-12-2018 5:00pm

What they should have done since last Tuesday was demolished the house and sheds, broke up the yard and removed all the rubble

Way easier get rid of it as just agricultural land

Askthe EA · 17-12-2018 5:06pm

Claw Hammer wrote: »

It is not the job of the Garda to supervise evictions, or did they. The Garda took part in facilitating an eviction by blocking roads and then ostensibly being present to ensure there was no breach of the peace did not intervene in an assault. GSOC are investigating. When someone refuses to vacate a dwelling or other premises the owner gets an injunction and if the person defies the injunction the owner has them brought before the court for contempt. If they refuse to vacate they are arrested by the Garda and brought to court and then to jail. that is the civilised way to do it. What was done in Roscommon by those bank hired thugs has no place in a civilised country. Nobody will buy that place from the bank after this. How could a new owner sleep there in peace?

'Alleged Assault' & GSOC will investigate if an allegation of wrongdoing is made against a Garda whether it is a valid allegation or not.

One assumes that the occupants were politely asked to leave and refused and had to be removed physically. One also assumes it will be the security companies position that only reasonable force was used and that any force was in response to force used against them. Self defense in other words.

There is no bank involved.

Askthe EA · 17-12-2018 5:07pm

gctest50 wrote: »

What they should have done since last Tuesday was demolished the house and sheds, broke up the yard and removed all the rubble

Way easier get rid of it as just agricultural land

Id say thats a possible outcome anyway. Can see that house burning down in due course.

Claw Hammer · 17-12-2018 5:15pm

Askthe EA wrote: »

'Alleged Assault' & GSOC will investigate if an allegation of wrongdoing is made against a Garda whether it is a valid allegation or not.

One assumes that the occupants were politely asked to leave and refused and had to be removed physically. One also assumes it will be the security companies position that only reasonable force was used and that any force was in response to force used against them. Self defense in other words.

There is no bank involved.

The bank was seeking to possess the property. Who else do you think was paying the security company? There was no sign of aynone being asked politey to leave.
There is no evidence that this was a pSA registered security company. These were hired thugs. They thought they were going to get away with inflictting violence under Garda cover. They got their comeuppance. i doubt if their vehicles insurance will pay for the damage.

garhjw · 17-12-2018 5:23pm

Why was the initial eviction so heavy handed? Are all evictions carried out in this manner with so many “security personnel”? Or was there a concern of significant resistance? Why 8 security guards looking after a small farm? All seems very odd.

While the eviction was ill-timed (just before Xmas) and possibly heavy handed (depending on Garda and GSOC) investigation, there is no justification for a pack of thugs beating people and dogs with bats and burning cars.

caff · 17-12-2018 5:27pm

garhjw wrote: »

Why was the initial eviction so heavy handed? Are all evictions carried out in this manner with so many “security personnel”? Or was there a concern of significant resistance? Why 8 security guards looking after a small farm? All seems very odd.

While the eviction was ill-timed (just before Xmas) and possibly heavy handed (depending on Garda and GSOC) investigation, there is no justification for a pack of thugs beating people and dogs with bats and burning cars.

Guessing they hired 8 due to this
https://www.irishtimes.com/news/crime-and-law/courts/farmer-who-told-two-men-to-strip-and-get-into-pen-with-boar-sent-to-jail-1.3081079?mode=amp

Askthe EA · 17-12-2018 5:31pm

Claw Hammer wrote: »

The bank was seeking to possess the property. Who else do you think was paying the security company? There was no sign of aynone being asked politey to leave.
There is no evidence that this was a pSA registered security company. These were hired thugs. They thought they were going to get away with inflictting violence under Garda cover. They got their comeuppance. i doubt if their vehicles insurance will pay for the damage.

You cant take everything you see or read on facebook at face value hammer.

KBC sold this loan 2 years ago to Cabot. It is Cabot who sought repossession.

The video was clearly shot well into the confrontation so we have no idea how it escalated or who escalated it. But it is fair to believe that the occupants were warned to leave, yes? It is fair to assume the security company didnt just kick the door down?

Claw Hammer · 17-12-2018 5:36pm

Askthe EA wrote: »

You cant take everything you see or read on facebook at face value hammer.

KBC sold this loan 2 years ago to Cabot. It is Cabot who sought repossession.

The video was clearly shot well into the confrontation so we have no idea how it escalated or who escalated it. But it is fair to believe that the occupants were warned to leave, yes? It is fair to assume the security company didnt just kick the door down?

Have you seen the sale documentation between KBC and CABOT? A lot of so called sales of loans are not sales at all. The so called security group beat a man on the ground. if they encountered any resistance to taking possession they should have retreated and let the courts handle it. Instead they behaved like thugs laughing at people. The laugh is on them now.

Askthe EA · 17-12-2018 5:42pm

Claw Hammer wrote: »

Have you seen the sale documentation between KBC and CABOT? A lot of so called sales of loans are not sales at all. The so called security group beat a man on the ground. if they encountered any resistance to taking possession they should have retreated and let the courts handle it. Instead they behaved like thugs laughing at people. The laugh is on them now.

I'll ask again. Do you believe the security company asked the occupants to leave before it got physical? Its a yes or no kind of question.

No I havent seen the documents, but thats moot and its a strawman argument youre trying to make anyway. The courts issued the repossession order, the occupants ignored it, the eviction happened.

Now we have the occupants still evicted, 3 in hospital, a dead dog and a number of people facing jail time if caught.

Madness.

ELM327 · 17-12-2018 5:46pm

Claw Hammer wrote: »

Have you seen the sale documentation between KBC and CABOT? A lot of so called sales of loans are not sales at all. The so called security group beat a man on the ground. if they encountered any resistance to taking possession they should have retreated and let the courts handle it. Instead they behaved like thugs laughing at people. The laugh is on them now.

The emboldened comment below would show why "the laugh" is not on them at all.
If anything there is a result as the occupants are evicted and they defended the bank's (cabot's?) property.

Askthe EA wrote: »

I'll ask again. Do you believe the security company asked the occupants to leave before it got physical? Its a yes or no kind of question.

No I havent seen the documents, but thats moot and its a strawman argument youre trying to make anyway. The courts issued the repossession order, the occupants ignored it, the eviction happened.

Now we have the occupants still evicted, 3 in hospital, a dead dog and a number of people facing jail time if caught.

Madness.

Claw Hammer · 17-12-2018 5:57pm

Askthe EA wrote: »

I'll ask again. Do you believe the security company asked the occupants to leave before it got physical? Its a yes or no kind of question.

No I havent seen the documents, but thats moot and its a strawman argument youre trying to make anyway. The courts issued the repossession order, the occupants ignored it, the eviction happened.

Now we have the occupants still evicted, 3 in hospital, a dead dog and a number of people facing jail time if caught.

Madness.

There was no court order. That is not the way court orders are enforced. More than likely there were a few letters sent by the bank and then the "security" came without warning and took possession. I do not believe there were any request to the occupants to leave.

Gatling · 17-12-2018 6:01pm

Claw Hammer wrote: »

There was no court order. That is not the way court orders are enforced. More than likely there were a few letters sent by the bank and then the "security" came without warning and took possession. I do not believe there were any request to the occupants to leave.

According to a report earlier the former owner knew that the eviction was coming ,why do you think his rent a mob friends turned up to block the eviction ,it wasn't as random as being made out to be

Homer · 17-12-2018 6:04pm

Claw Hammer wrote: »

There was no court order. That is not the way court orders are enforced. More than likely there were a few letters sent by the bank and then the "security" came without warning and took possession. I do not believe there were any request to the occupants to leave.

I really don’t believe you’re THAT stupid

Askthe EA · 17-12-2018 6:07pm

Claw Hammer wrote: »

There was no court order. That is not the way court orders are enforced. More than likely there were a few letters sent by the bank and then the "security" came without warning and took possession. I do not believe there were any request to the occupants to leave.

Youre saying that an order of possession was not granted by the court?

ELM327 · 17-12-2018 6:08pm

Homer wrote: »

I really don’t believe you’re THAT stupid

Askthe EA wrote: »

Youre saying that an order of possession was not granted by the court?

Just goes to show what you're dealing with tbh.
I'm not sure if it's wilful ignorance of due process, or lack of knowledge, or listening to biased social media accounts but that post you have both quoted is factually inaccurate and dangerously so.

C3PO · 17-12-2018 6:28pm

Claw Hammer wrote: »

There was no court order. That is not the way court orders are enforced. More than likely there were a few letters sent by the bank and then the "security" came without warning and took possession. I do not believe there were any request to the occupants to leave.

Are you serious? Do you really think that a bank would physically evict people based on a "few letters" ... they are simply not that stupid!

C3PO · 17-12-2018 6:49pm

Yep ... looks like he may have received a "few letters" over the years alright!!

https://www.irishtimes.com/news/crime-and-law/roscommon-eviction-farmer-has-unpaid-debts-going-back-years-1.3734439

Gimme A Pound · 17-12-2018 7:22pm

C3PO wrote: »

Yep ... looks like he may have received a "few letters" over the years alright!!

https://www.irishtimes.com/news/crime-and-law/roscommon-eviction-farmer-has-unpaid-debts-going-back-years-1.3734439

I'm so shocked that my monocle has fallen into my sherry.

Claw Hammer · 17-12-2018 7:32pm

Askthe EA wrote: »

Youre saying that an order of possession was not granted by the court?

Not to Cabot. Also there was no order allowing the use of force.

Gatling · 17-12-2018 7:33pm

[quote="Claw Hammer;108906714"Also there was no order allowing the use of force.[/quote]

There is no such thing as an order for the use of force

Claw Hammer · 17-12-2018 7:36pm

Gatling wrote: »

There is no such thing as an order for the use of force

Are you sure?

Gatling · 17-12-2018 7:45pm

Claw Hammer wrote: »

Are you sure?

Yeah

l5auim2pjnt8qx · 17-12-2018 7:48pm

2 members of the family have been allowed return to the house.Medie came out with a statment that 2 family members want to be left alone.. Massive climbdown of a major F -up Government trying to nip this in the bud.

Murphy is in talks with KBC bank to allow 2 family members stay in the house and at the same time saying its up the Gardai ? To make a decision......deer caught in the headlights.

Cabot made a statement it had nothing to do with repossession.

Still no clarification security thugs were registered.....we know they weren't.

ted1 · 17-12-2018 7:50pm

4ensic15 wrote: »

The security guards violently assaulted people to take possession of the property. What right had they got to do that? What goes around comes around.

My understanding is that security guards in Ireland need to have a psa licence https://www.psa.gov.ie that needs to be worn at all times and also follow a code of conduct. Don’t think balaclavas are allowed. These guys are not security guards. They are hired thugs

While I’m not any eviction I don’t support this method.

Claw Hammer · 17-12-2018 7:53pm

Gatling wrote: »

Yeah

How are you so sure?

Kingswood Rover · 17-12-2018 8:41pm

Came on here to get some background after hearing about this case today and it it making my blood boil, I have looked at the repossession/eviction thinking that it was going to be a pitched battle and lets be honest it was done slowly with the minimum of force and under the eye of local Gardai. Still i think well at least the guards made sure that it was all above board. The i start seeing posts/links/articles coming up about this guys numerous unpaid loans. How did he get the loans with such a dodgy track record is my question. The banks lending depts have some culpability here lending to money to someone who was such an obvious bad risk. That guy lived by the sword borrowing not repaying, under declaring VAT...we all know the rest of the saying.

hmmm · 17-12-2018 9:00pm

All the rest of us suffer if there are no evictions - we have to pay higher taxes and higher mortgage rates to compensate.

7upfree · 17-12-2018 9:01pm

hmmm wrote: »

All the rest of us suffer if there are no evictions - we have to pay higher taxes and higher mortgage rates to compensate.

I hope they never knock at your door. Exceptions were made for banks. Billions of euro placed on the shoulders of the Irish people. The rules changed to accommodate them.

And yet they carry on business as normal.

This country.

Seth Brundle · 17-12-2018 9:21pm

7upfree wrote: »

I hope they never knock at your door. Exceptions were made for banks. Billions of euro placed on the shoulders of the Irish people. The rules changed to accommodate them.

Exceptions were made at a time when it was difficult for some to find work. Those days are gone almost. Anyone facing eviction does so because they've refused to engage with the lender.

It won't face me because by hook or by crook I'll pay my bills. If I come across hardship then I will engage with my mortgage provider.

In terms of your waffle about the exception being made for the banks, would you rather that all the banks failed? Should someone who refuses to engage with their mortgage provider, to the point that a court says get out, still be allowed stay in the house?

Eric Cartman · 17-12-2018 9:29pm

Seth Brundle wrote: »

Exceptions were made at a time when it was difficult for some to find work. Those days are gone almost. Anyone facing eviction does so because they've refused to engage with the lender.

It won't face me because by hook or by crook I'll pay my bills. If I come across hardship then I will engage with my mortgage provider.

In terms of your waffle about the exception being made for the banks, would you rather that all the banks failed? Should someone who refuses to engage with their mortgage provider, to the point that a court says get out, still be allowed stay in the house?

and the people saying the banks should have failed are always the ones that scream murder about 'vulture funds' ...not realising who buys the loan book when banks do fail...

garhjw · 17-12-2018 9:43pm

The farmer doesn’t seem that interested in repaying debts or addressing their financial situation.

https://www.irishtimes.com/news/crime-and-law/roscommon-eviction-farmer-has-unpaid-debts-going-back-years-1.3734439

milhous · 17-12-2018 9:47pm

Gatling wrote: »

Yeah

"The Existing Law
80.

The sheriff may enter a debtor's premises for the purpose of seizing his goods in execution and may do so forcibly. He must, however, first make reasonable efforts to enter “peaceably and without violence”."

From https://www.lawreform.ie/_fileupload/Reports/rDebtCollection1.htm

Could only find in relation to the sheriff's Nd debt collection but that was a 5min internet search. So first reasonable efforts to do so without force, like we prob would have seen if the camera was rolling/not edited. And presumably then with force.

They obviously got notice of the eviction hence they had a posse of between 10 and 20 people there when the sheriff and his appointed bailiffs showed up (one of their friends have that info. on an interview they did). I think it's an interesting side line to take that one of the bailiffs was British, And therefore uproar. Obviously shouldn't have said anything but from what I see...

Chancers not paying their mortgage, lsnding institution went through courts for years, finally got an order for possession, defnedants notified and still didn't leave, sheriff and appointed bailiffs contacted them and told them to be out by X date. Sheriff turned up on X date, Still refused to leave, started being moved off site forcibly, bit of a scuffle.. queue poor quality camera phone for a snipet of a video.
Instead of lookng at it as a sheriff and his appointed bailiffs, take exception to where they're from and roll with that being the problem. Tbf I'd say if the bailiffs were from mayo, cork or anywhere they'd still be looking for a reason to shout about how unjust it all is.

Gaurds were probably there be order of the county reg/sheriff under a posse comitatus. It's a court order, gardai have to show.

What I find sickening is the amount of people who th ijnk there should be no evictions, looking for the sad bit to bore us with all day long. You gotta pay, if you don't everyone else suffers, you're not sticking it to the bank, you're screwing over everyone else and the economy.

l5auim2pjnt8qx · 17-12-2018 10:42pm

milhous wrote: »

"The Existing Law
80.

The sheriff may enter a debtor's premises for the purpose of seizing his goods in execution and may do so forcibly. He must, however, first make reasonable efforts to enter “peaceably and without violence”."

From https://www.lawreform.ie/_fileupload/Reports/rDebtCollection1.htm

Could only find in relation to the sheriff's Nd debt collection but that was a 5min internet search. So first reasonable efforts to do so without force, like we prob would have seen if the camera was rolling/not edited. And presumably then with force.

They obviously got notice of the eviction hence they had a posse of between 10 and 20 people there when the sheriff and his appointed bailiffs showed up (one of their friends have that info. on an interview they did). I think it's an interesting side line to take that one of the bailiffs was British, And therefore uproar. Obviously shouldn't have said anything but from what I see...

Chancers not paying their mortgage, lsnding institution went through courts for years, finally got an order for possession, defnedants notified and still didn't leave, sheriff and appointed bailiffs contacted them and told them to be out by X date. Sheriff turned up on X date, Still refused to leave, started being moved off site forcibly, bit of a scuffle.. queue poor quality camera phone for a snipet of a video.
Instead of lookng at it as a sheriff and his appointed bailiffs, take exception to where they're from and roll with that being the problem. Tbf I'd say if the bailiffs were from mayo, cork or anywhere they'd still be looking for a reason to shout about how unjust it all is.

Guards were probably there be order of the county reg/sheriff under a posse comitatus. It's a court order, gardai have to show.

What I find sickening is the amount of people who th ijnk there should be no evictions, looking for the sad bit to bore us with all day long. You gotta pay, if you don't everyone else suffers, you're not sticking it to the bank, you're screwing over everyone else and the economy.

What part did you not get that the sheriff used an unregistered bunch of thugs from Northern Ireland to beat up elderly folk whatever screwed up notion that is used to justify it a week before christmas.

Even Leo suggested on 6 news questioned the judges decision suggesting he didn't view rhe case from all sides.

Now it is confirmed that the older & sister extremely traumitised by the ordeal have now been allowed to move back in.

It this was all above aboard KBC bank would have never allowed siblings to move back in.
Judge , Gardai and the unregistered thugs from Northern Ireland with the media still calling them security are all in the wrong which has now been proven.....Sanity finally shining a light.

For the record we still remain one of the most indebted countries in the world per population wirh over 200 billion debt ,joe soap didn't bring about this- it was the elite borrowing of large commercials loans and write off in billions that got us here.

milhous · 17-12-2018 11:01pm

Zayd Quaint Marsupial wrote: »

What part did you not get that the sheriff used an unregistered bunch of thugs from Northern Ireland to beat up elderly folk whatever screwed up notion that is used to justify it a week before christmas.

Even Leo suggested on 6 news questioned the judges decision suggesting he didn't view rhe case from all sides.

Now it is confirmed that the older & sister extremely traumitised by the ordeal have now been allowed to move back in.

It this was all above aboard KBC bank would have never allowed siblings to move back in.
Judge , Gardai and the unregistered thugs from Northern Ireland with the media still calling them security are all in the wrong which has now been proven.....Sanity finally shining a light.

For the record we still remain one of the most indebted countries in the world per population wirh over 200 billion debt ,joe soap didn't bring about this- it was the elite borrowing of large commercials loans and write off in billions that got us here.

Actually, afaik, for the actual eviction the bailiffs are signed on to a warrant. They don't need to be psa. However after the eviction happens as static security they do need to be registered with the psa.

I'm not sure of the evidence around whether or not they are registered tbf as the only reports I've read regarding that are on facebook and boards. I'm not sure what has been proven here, I've seen nothing to say anyone was acting in the wrong from any of the official parties involved (gardai and courts) and have just read the "isn't it terrible father" people.

Just on your last part, so due to the last global economic downturn, where pretty much everyone lost.. the lessons we'll take from that is if someone doesn't pay their mortgage or loans there should be no repercussions.. and their vat bill.. na... other debts they have... na Sure why start there .. just do what you want.. can't wait till everyone realises the dream world that would be with nobody paying tax or their loans.. nothing could possibly go wrong.. banks will keep lending, interest rates will be great.. no tax paid, sure **** it, the government will just print money.. no problems there. Why havent people noticed this utopian future before.. class

garhjw · 17-12-2018 11:03pm

They still need to pay their debts or make an effort to. It’s clear the farmer doesn’t believe in paying debts

17-12-2018 11:43pm

The man owes half a million to revenue, a load of money to local business and obviously has badly defaulted on loans and/or a mortgage. He is no better than a drug dealer and deserved to be turfed out. The guards should have been arresting him and locking him up.

He is the kind of person who never pays his bills quite obviously and it’s laughable the way the morons are defending him and layabout dole scrounges with nothing better to do out protesting for them.

I really hope they are not let back in, it’s a serious cop out if they are.

the_syco · 17-12-2018 11:43pm

Zayd Quaint Marsupial wrote: »

Now it is confirmed that the older & sister extremely traumitised by the ordeal have now been allowed to move back in.

I'm seeing that they have moved back in. Doesn't say that they were allowed back in. Doesn't say who, if anyone, allowed them back in.

The security staff in place was there to prevent them moving back in. No security staff, nothing stopping them from moving back in.

It will mean, however, that the next eviction in Strokestown will have a Garda presence after the eviction.

4ensic15 · 17-12-2018 11:52pm

milhous wrote: »

Actually, afaik, for the actual eviction the bailiffs are signed on to a warrant. They don't need to be psa. However after the eviction happens as static security they do need to be registered with the psa.

I'm not sure of the evidence around whether or not they are registered tbf as the only reports I've read regarding that are on facebook and boards. I'm not sure what has been proven here, I've seen nothing to say anyone was acting in the wrong from any of the official parties involved (gardai and courts) and have just read the "isn't it terrible father" people.

Just on your last part, so due to the last global economic downturn, where pretty much everyone lost.. the lessons we'll take from that is if someone doesn't pay their mortgage or loans there should be no repercussions.. and their vat bill.. na... other debts they have... na Sure why start there .. just do what you want.. can't wait till everyone realises the dream world that would be with nobody paying tax or their loans.. nothing could possibly go wrong.. banks will keep lending, interest rates will be great.. no tax paid, sure **** it, the government will just print money.. no problems there. Why havent people noticed this utopian future before.. class

The Sheriff is only allowed to have court messengers assist him in carrying out his duties. Those thugs were not court messengers.

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