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  • #52
    JuliusCaesar
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,882 ✭✭✭JuliusCaesar


    cannex wrote: »
    Just created that noew thread called Adult ADHD Advice, follow if you feel inclined and maybe you can pop in every now and again and give advice to some poor soul who is probably at the end of their tether. :)

    Cool wont be diagnosing or recommending drugs just support and someone to say its real and I believe you and this is where you can go from here etc...

    That thread has been moved to Long Term Illness forum.


  • #53
    Labarbapostiza
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 963 ✭✭✭Labarbapostiza


    cannex wrote: »
    We have ballooning diagnoses of an alleged medical condition whose objective neurological existence cannot be demonstrated in any person said to be 'suffering' from it.

    Oh please. This 'objective neurological existence cannot not be proved' nonsense. This claim has been made for everything from schizophrenia to bi-polar disorder. And it is in fact rubbish. It is not a scientific claim. But there is a social basis to the claim; the denial of the reality of psychiatric conditions being very popular among a certain kind of right-wing bullying blowhard; "They're just putting it on..what they need is fresh air and a kick up the arse...a kick up the arse". Funnily enough, the people most in need of a solid kick up the arse.

    When the medical profession began using the term bi-polar instead of manic-depression, the blowhard media had a slew of "It's just fashion nonsense...all they need is a..etc" articles.

    There's no doubt there are people who like to give themselves a fashionable ailment, gluten intolerance being quite fashionable of the moment, even though gluten isn't a thing (it's just a particular consistency of salt, water, yeast and flour, in dough for bread making...it's not a protein, it has no chemical properties that make it any different from any of its' components....it's simple your dough neither being too wet, or too dry, for forming a good loaf........And since it doesn't exist, brass necked manufacturers of everything from jelly babies to gravy powder, can make claims their product is gluten free).

    If you really have bi-polar, you may go your whole life without a diagnosis, but those around you are going to know about it. Attention deficit disorder in children has been known for forever; used to be called hyperactivity. There is misuse of the diagnosis. You'll have school teachers recommending to parents their child has ADHD, when they may just be not the social conformist the teacher wants them to be. But the same people in the past had children lobotomized for "homosexual tendencies". They don't do the lobotomies anymore, but in America millions of kids find themselves committed to "treatment" centres, by their parents....to smooth out the little bumps in their personhood...."conversion" therapy, the "curing" of homosexual tendencies, is not in fact illegal in America. And it's legal to inflict it on children with their parents' consent. The centres do not openly advertise this service, they're afraid of Big Gay coming after them. It's a "kick up the arse" therapy; involving psychological torture and brain washing.....Because you can't get away with bruising children's bodies anymore; just their minds.


  • #54
    JuliusCaesar
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,882 ✭✭✭JuliusCaesar


    Cannex was quoting somebody else...just didn't "quote" it


  • #55
    cannex
    Registered Users Posts: 124 ✭✭cannex


    Heart is in the right place though :)

    Just for future reference though, gluten is a protein and a person who has celiac disease is missing the enzyme to break it down. It causes malnutrition and will have deadly effects later on in life on those who are celiac and continue to eat it anyway.

    Were you trying to be funny? Hmm

    Bi-polar disorder can only be diagnosed in teens, never in childhod and normally in early to late 20's.


  • #56
    Labarbapostiza
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 963 ✭✭✭Labarbapostiza


    cannex wrote: »

    Bi-polar disorder can only be diagnosed in teens, never in childhod and normally in early to late 20's.

    No, what there is a general convention not to give children or young teens a diagnostic label. Children naturally have difficulties controlling their emotions, but they can have genuine psychiatric conditions, and they receive treatment all the time.

    There is an issue with conditions becoming "fashionable". A parent or a school teacher, may read about ADHD in magazines and other media sources; all children are hyperactive and have trouble concentrating, but they don't all have ADHD. The parent may convince themselves and their doctor their child has ADHD.

    Something very similar happens to doctors. They read rubbish in magazines too, and they can get it confused with their medical training and experience. For example, when bi-polar was fashionable, in the 90s. It was so fashionable, Alanis Morrisette's multi-zillion selling album Jagged Little Pill..The jagged little pill referred to is a dose of prozac, where the pill has been split in two..hence, it's jagged on one side. Whinging navel gazing young women of today claim PTSD as their ailment of choice, in the 90s it was bipolar. Is there anything actually wrong with these girls....no....and yes....not being a very nice person, being tired, grumpy, and jealous, and being upset with your boyfriend and ex-best friend, for what they did behind your back....That's not a psychiatric condition.

    But I digress. To give an example of the influence of pop-culture fashionability of ailments on doctors. In the 90s, a 13 year-old girl presents to her GP, with wild mood swings and depression. His first line is to prescribe her antidepressants. This treatment is ineffective, but goes on for years, escalating and switching antidepressants. Completely wrong from the get-go. The girl's depression coincided with her beginning to have her periods. She wasn't in fact bipolar, she was just experiencing a more extreme hormonal dysregulation. This is quite common and usually the contraceptive pill fixes it.


  • #57
    black_sheep96
    Registered Users Posts: 2 ✭black_sheep96


    Hi everyone. I'm a 22 year old and up until about 7/8 months ago I didn't even know what ADHD was, but ever since then I've been wandering whether I might have it! An ex-boyfriend of mine who had ADHD was pretty adamant that I had it too and considering his own diagnosis and the fact that we dated for 6/7 months, it got me wondering whether he might be right. (Also the fact that I seem to fit a Lot of the symptoms, relate to about 99% of the things that I've read/ watched online and my problems haven't gone away one bit since I started college and some other people who I'm close with seem to think that I might have it too). I casually asked my doctor about it one day while coming in for something else and she suggested DCU as a good place to be assessed, but then I looked at the pricing and there's just no way I can afford to pay 800- 1000 euros for a consultation! I also don't want to go through a whole rigorous testing process only to be potentially told at the end of it that I don't have it, after wasting all that time and money and mental energy. And I don't have a medical card and won't be able to get one for a little over 2 years, just to make matters worse. All I actually want at this point is to get an idea for whether I might have it or not, from a professional who has some basic training in recognising or diagnosing ADHD, even if it's not actually an official diagnosis, because I'm just so sick of wandering about it; the same question playing over and over in my mind in an obsessive loop; it's getting really old. Anyone have any ideas of places I could try for a diagnosis in Ireland that aren't as dare as 800 euros?


  • #58
    SuperRabbit
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 698 ✭✭✭SuperRabbit


    Lucky for you you are young enough to get your old school reports, get them from your primary and secondary school and then you can get assessed through the HSE, they will want to interview your parents or someone close to you (if you are still friends with your ex that would work)

    Your school reports will need to have mentioned trouble with paying attention or behavioral problems. In Ireland they do not believe you can have ADHD as an adult without someone having noticed it when you were a child

    https://www.hse.ie/eng/about/who/cspd/ncps/mental-health/adhd/


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