Pity bus users are not as motivated as cyclists

amcalester · 26-11-2017 2:26pm

Stephen15 wrote: »

Ok so here's a question for all the cyclists out there who think the infrastructure is not good enough. You probably have a valid point but why do you keep cycling if you feel the infratructure is inadequate and only cycle when the infrastructure is adequate. Why do you continue to risk your life on a daily basis?

I do recognise that the infrastructure isin't great its better than some cities where the cycling infrastructure is non existant.

Going by your logic people shouldn't travel between Cork and Limerick until the M20 is built due to how dangerous the N20 is.

crosstownk · 26-11-2017 11:04pm

ixoy wrote: »

I regularly walk into work - it takes over an hour. If I cycled it, I could likely do it in 10-15 minutes. That'd be hours saved a week. The reason I don't is I'd be far too afraid of getting smeared under a truck or clipped by a car because even looking at some of the cyclists going by, and how close they are to traffic, can be freaky. Too much risk. Be great if there was something more viable for the likes of myself.

This is a post worthy of mention as it highlights something important.

Some cyclists prefer to be part of the traffic, on the road mingling with busses, taxis, trucks, private motor vehicles, etc. I'd be in this category.

However, others feel that cycling as part of the traffic is dangerous. They'd prefer not to be part of road traffic and would rather have segregated lanes/tracks and aren't concerned with mingling with pedestrians and the poor condition of some cycle tracks.

So now we have two types of cyclists with different requirements - to me both requirements are valid based on the cyclist's needs.

I don't have an ideal answer but I thought it was worth mentioning.

monument · 27-11-2017 9:05am

crosstownk wrote: »

This is a post worthy of mention as it highlights something important.

Some cyclists prefer to be part of the traffic, on the road mingling with busses, taxis, trucks, private motor vehicles, etc. I'd be in this category.

However, others feel that cycling as part of the traffic is dangerous. They'd prefer not to be part of road traffic and would rather have segregated lanes/tracks and aren't concerned with mingling with pedestrians and the poor condition of some cycle tracks.

So now we have two types of cyclists with different requirements - to me both requirements are valid based on the cyclist's needs.

I don't have an ideal answer but I thought it was worth mentioning.

Err... most people I know are not in both of the groups that you describe

They are concerned with mingling with both traffic and pedestrians and also concerned with the poor condition of most cycle tracks.

The ideal answer is high-quality, Dutch-like cycling infrastructure which 90%+ of people will chose to use and the rest are fast enough not to cause delay to buses.

magicbastarder · 27-11-2017 9:50am

my concern would be that any such infrastructure built here would 'ghettoise' cyclists. as in, turn them effectively into pedestrians.

trellheim · 27-11-2017 11:07am

my concern would be that any such infrastructure built here would 'ghettoise' cyclists. as in, turn them effectively into pedestrians.

Doesnt happen . Been in and out of London most of the year and let me tell you they are very different groups. Its amazing the difference has made when a good amount of investment in infra has been made, as someone who's been on the bike in London since 1990 , I have never seen anything like it. That plus a really serious investment in the boris/Santander bikes and a really harsh congestion charge has made it a hell of a lot easier.

Stand outside the cycle superhighway at Whitechapel or wherever -very different groups !

Pity bus users are not as motivated as cyclists

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