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19-06-2020, 10:38   #1
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Firestick general discussion thread

Following from the thread in Bargain Alerts, this is for discussion in general

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Which firestick should I buy?

4K is not just for 4K. The 4K firestick is a better purchase than non 4K stick
But it won't shop to Ireland?
Use parcel wizard/motel/addresspal etc etc
What can I do with the firestick?
Well the world is your oyster but it depends on what you want to do with it. There are many apps, many free and most are legit.
Do I use my amazon account on it?
Yes you can and if you have prime, you get the benefits of prime. However US customers seem to get a lot more free via IMDB TV etc. You could set up a new amazon account with a US address solely for this purpose. Couple this with a VPN, your stick can give you a lot more options. However your UK prime account is then not available.
Should I use a VPN?
It seems fairly common place to use one nowadays. You can get VPN unlimited on a stack social deal for a lifetime price of $15. It auto runs when you start your firestick. It also allows you to watch UK catchup channels. You can easily change between US and UK as necessary.
If you are getting an error, ensure it is the US streaming picked and not a random US city.
A VPN gets around geoblocking e.g. You take the firestick on holidays to Italy. RTE player won't work as you are not in Ireland. The VPN makes the firestick think it's in Ireland and then RTE player works.
What are the essential apps?
Sub required: Netflix, Disney+, HULU, HBO Now, Sling TV, DirecTv & FuboTv & HBOMAX, eurosport player
Free: Crackle, Pluto, Tubi, BBC, All4, RTE, Virgin Media, UKTV Play, ITV Hub, My5,
What other Apps?
You will need mouse toggle and also orientation for some apps. Mouse toggle allows your remote to act like a mouse.
Where can I get these apps?
Some can be found using the amazon search or using downloader (can be downloaded from the main page). However you’ll notice that if you are a UK account, you can’t download crackle. If you are a US account, you can’t download UK catchup. So you can find them using filelinked.
The best place is to watch https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JIPT30w39bA. Tanya is a great source of info for the firestick. Her videos are also great for showing you how to start with downloader, allowing apps to be installed outside of amazon store etc.
There are 3 main filelinked for firestick, Codes: Tanya 71607934, Average Ed 47713348 & Electrical MD 85810914
https://www.youtube.com/c/FireTVSticks
https://www.youtube.com/user/TechDoctorUK/
RTE Player
There are 2 APKs you can use. The newer version has live TV but you need the mouse toggle. It is available on downloader (v3.0.4: don’t use a newer one) or via one of the filelinked. The older version (v1) https://www.joujoujou.com/images/rte.apk doesn’t require mouse toggle but there’s no live TV option. You can put this URL into downloader which will download the apk to your firestick.
Whats the best price at moment?
It's probably easier looking up amazon or currys for a current price rather than asking it here.
Can I use my phone to install apps?
You can use easyfiretools. However start with filelinked and probably Tanya.
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19-06-2020, 11:18   #2
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Has anyone tried hooking up their echo plus to the firestick to hear the audio on the TV. Is there any latency issues with the audio?
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19-06-2020, 12:39   #3
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Following from the thread in Bargain Alerts, this is for discussion in general

Should I use a VPN?
It seems fairly common place to use one nowadays. You can get VPN unlimited on a stack social deal for a lifetime price of $15. It auto runs when you start your firestick. It also allows you to watch UK catchup channels. You can easily change between US and UK as necessary.
If you are getting an error, ensure it is the US streaming picked and not a random US city.
A VPN gets around geoblocking e.g. You take the firestick on holidays to Italy. RTE player won't work as you are not in Ireland. The VPN makes the firestick think it's in Ireland and then RTE player works.
Do you have a link for the $15 lifetime offer? I can only see it for $39.
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Sorry, I know this was discussed before but if someone could give me a concise, definitive steps for getting Premiership matches I'd greatly appreciate it!
answering this question from the BA thread.

I signed up with NBC sports but it's a rigmarole.

You need a VPN service (which I already had). Set your VPN to the US, sign up with NBC sports, they're showing all the remaining PL matches for $10.

However - in order to watch the matches live, you have to link your NBC account to a cable TV service account (I don't know why, you just do). I signed up with Fubo.TV as they have a 7 day free trial, then I immediately cancelled it. How long it will take NBC to realise my Fubo account is inactive, we'll see.

You'll also need to sideload the NBC sports app onto your Firestick - I haven't tried this yet, I watched the City-Arsenal match on Wednesday on my laptop. Finally you need to have the VPN active when watching the matches so NBC think you're in the states.
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answering this question from the BA thread.

I signed up with NBC sports but it's a rigmarole.

You need a VPN service (which I already had). Set your VPN to the US, sign up with NBC sports, they're showing all the remaining PL matches for $10.

However - in order to watch the matches live, you have to link your NBC account to a cable TV service account (I don't know why, you just do). I signed up with Fubo.TV as they have a 7 day free trial, then I immediately cancelled it. How long it will take NBC to realise my Fubo account is inactive, we'll see.

You'll also need to sideload the NBC sports app onto your Firestick - I haven't tried this yet, I watched the City-Arsenal match on Wednesday on my laptop. Finally you need to have the VPN active when watching the matches so NBC think you're in the states.
Did you use revolut for the sign up or did an Irish card work for you?
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Did you use revolut for the sign up or did an Irish card work for you?
N26, German mastercard.
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19-06-2020, 13:03   #7
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You only have to pay if you want to watch the matches on shown on gold or the replays.
Most game are on the broadcast channels which is why you need the TV provider.
https://soccer.nbcsports.com/2020/06...ague-schedule/

Changing your Amazon account to the US will let you download the NBC sports app.

A great find by IrishHomer ðŸ‘
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IPTV sub for Premier League matches sounds a lot less hassle than jumping through those hoops.

At the end of the day, Sky/BT etc have the rights for matches in the UK and Ireland. Using any other service isn't entirely legal, so if you're going down that road than you might as well just use an IPTV service.
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19-06-2020, 16:39   #9
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IPTV sub for Premier League matches sounds a lot less hassle than jumping through those hoops.

At the end of the day, Sky/BT etc have the rights for matches in the UK and Ireland. Using any other service isn't entirely legal, so if you're going down that road than you might as well just use an IPTV service.
There's a thin line between breaking T&Cs and stealing. Using a US provider who has paid for the rights is getting around T&Cs, similar to watching US netflix or the old days of getting sat feed from Africa with the games on it. But not illegal. Using a service that doesn't pay any rights is illegal and obviously can't be discussed on boards.
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However - in order to watch the matches live, you have to link your NBC account to a cable TV service account (I don't know why, you just do). I signed up with Fubo.TV as they have a 7 day free trial, then I immediately cancelled it. How long it will take NBC to realise my Fubo account is inactive, we'll see.
Essentially the ability to watch NBCSN on a firestick app is dependent on you having a paid US cable TV subscription and the validation from a cable TV provider is part of their verification process that you are actually in the US

I have downloaded about 30 other US TV apps onto my firestick this week and it's all the same validation process. I'm cancelling my Fubo 7 day trial tonight so I'll see if I lose access to any of these other apps
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There's a thin line between breaking T&Cs and stealing. Using a US provider who has paid for the rights is getting around T&Cs, similar to watching US netflix or the old days of getting sat feed from Africa with the games on it. But not illegal. Using a service that doesn't pay any rights is illegal and obviously can't be discussed on boards.
I agree, there's a fine line. Sky will only bother chasing the big boys that are flouting the T's and C's. If their subs drastically dropped by people subscribing in other countries and using VPN's to access content they have paid for exclusive rights to, you can guarantee Sky would be doing something about it.

Anyhoo, this is dragging the thread off topic.
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Essentially the ability to watch NBCSN on a firestick app is dependent on you having a paid US cable TV subscription and the validation from a cable TV provider is part of their verification process that you are actually in the US

I have downloaded about 30 other US TV apps onto my firestick this week and it's all the same validation process. I'm cancelling my Fubo 7 day trial tonight so I'll see if I lose access to any of these other apps
Tubi and Pluto don't require any verification. IMDB is just amazon prime for free in US with ads
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Tubi and Pluto don't require any verification. IMDB is just amazon prime for free in US with ads
Yeah any non-TV channel app doesn't require validation, anything for the likes of NBC, ABC, Fox, Comedy Central, Discovery etc. have this process
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I have downloaded about 30 other US TV apps onto my firestick this week and it's all the same validation process. I'm cancelling my Fubo 7 day trial tonight so I'll see if I lose access to any of these other apps
So I have cancelled my Fubo TV 7 day trial and I have immediately lost access to a number of the 30 or so US TV apps I downloaded to my firestick, but thankfully NBC Sports Network is still one of the few working
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I cant seem to sign up for the Fubo tv . It tells me I've been blocked straight away and tells me to turn my vpn off if I'm using one . Any way around it ?
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