HPAT and Medicine 2016

Theboybang · 29-01-2016 5:08pm

What's everyone predicting for the points this year? Read an article earlier today about the significant increase in CAO applicants on last year and an expected surge in points. Hopefully this won't apply too much to med...especially because its my second time applying! :mad:

Consonata · 29-01-2016 9:12pm

Theboybang wrote: »

What's everyone predicting for the points this year? Read an article earlier today about the significant increase in CAO applicants on last year and an expected surge in points. Hopefully this won't apply too much to med...especially because its my second time applying! :mad:

I could see this being the first year that it breaks into the 750s though I really really hope not. Med is my top four and 220 being a necessity to get my course is really stressful.

Gallagher1 · 30-01-2016 12:31am

Consonata wrote: »

I could see this being the first year that it breaks into the 750s though I really really hope not. Med is my top four and 220 being a necessity to get my course is really stressful.

What are you smoking? 750?!? Are you trying to tell me 590 LC and 97th Percentile HPAT is going to be the cut off for Medicine??

I would wager you could count on one hand the amount of people who got 220 last year too.

Consonata · 30-01-2016 1:05am

Gallagher1 wrote: »

What are you smoking? 750?!? Are you trying to tell me 590 LC and 97th Percentile HPAT is going to be the cut off for Medicine??

I would wager you could count on one hand the amount of people who got 220 last year too.

Not the cut off, but the top points for medicine. It has gotten very close in the past. Trinity was 748 in 2013

Gallagher1 · 30-01-2016 1:26am

Consonata wrote: »

Not the cut off, but the top points for medicine. It has gotten very close in the past. Trinity was 748 in 2013

Yeah back in 2013 when HPAT scores (Pre marking scheme alteration) were on average 15 points higher than they are now.

Lucky Leprechaun · 01-02-2016 10:54pm

Hello Everyone, Has anyone done the Institutes prep course? What were the people like? Was it beneficial?

futuredoctor96 · 05-02-2016 1:49am

Hey guys, 99th percentile, second year UCD med student here just checking in. Hope the mocks are all going alright (I wouldn't worry too much about them), if you're really going for medicine, focus on your HPAT for the time being.

If you have any questions just give us a PM or ask in the thread. Keep working away because honestly, it's so so worth the effort!

futuredoctor96

WorthlessPeon · 05-02-2016 5:21pm

futuredoctor96 wrote: »

Hey guys, 99th percentile, second year UCD med student here just checking in. Hope the mocks are all going alright (I wouldn't worry too much about them), if you're really going for medicine, focus on your HPAT for the time being.

If you have any questions just give us a PM or ask in the thread. Keep working away because honestly, it's so so worth the effort!

futuredoctor96

Any advice? Really doubting myself after these mocks..

futuredoctor96 · 06-02-2016 12:43am

WorthlessPeon wrote: »

Any advice? Really doubting myself after these mocks..

Don't let the mocks dishearten you right now, the real focus should be the HPAT because it's coming up fairly soon and actually counts for something. People can go up substantially from their mocks and they're only there as a tool to help you prepare for the real thing, to find weak spots and so on.

So what I would say is remember what's important. The mocks don't mean anything when you're holding your real Leaving Cert results in your hand, or opening your HPAT results.
Good Luck with it all!

futuredoctor96

FirstDraft1 · 06-02-2016 11:34pm

Lucky Leprechaun wrote: »

Hello Everyone, Has anyone done the Institutes prep course? What were the people like? Was it beneficial?

I did it. I found it to be decent enough but I would have to admit that it's a pale comparison to the course we all know! I decided to do it simply to see different questions types. The mock exam had a very unique section 3. I am used to getting >20/30 on M******y practice exams and I also got 24/30 in the mock exam at the day course for M******y, yet I only got 13/30 in the Institute's version! I just hope the real HPAT is more compatible with what I'm used to. Fingers crossed!

meeemsd · 07-02-2016 4:45pm

does anyone have any tips for section three? I seem to be alright for section 1 and 2 but three is absolutely doing my head in. I have the M******y package, if anyone has any advice on how I should structure my revision for the next 3 weeks I'd really really appreciate it.

Lucky Leprechaun · 09-02-2016 6:39pm

Hello everyone, How do you calculate your hpat score into points? How does that system work out of the 110 questions?

Doctorhopeful · 09-02-2016 8:57pm

Lucky Leprechaun wrote: »

Hello everyone, How do you calculate your hpat score into points? How does that system work out of the 110 questions?

you cannot calculate an accurate score as, on the day, acer will weight different questions depending on how people answered them. Moreover, it's the percentile which you attain that is key in the the results, not necessarily the raw score.

ConnorGriffin · 12-02-2016 12:38am

Hey

doing the m******y course this Saturday and Sunday in Dublin, just wondering if anyone one else is heading up as I'm the only one in my school doing it

Lucky Leprechaun · 12-02-2016 11:15pm

Hey everyone! What will you do with your phone on the day? Are you going to bring a bag with you or just carry everything in your pocket?

Doctorhopeful · 13-02-2016 3:50pm

Lucky Leprechaun wrote: »

Hey everyone! What will you do with your phone on the day? Are you going to bring a bag with you or just carry everything in your pocket?

If you carry your phone on you i believe you'll be require to turn it off and place it on the floor facing upwards. You shouldn't keep it in your pocket that's for sure.

OMGeary · 13-02-2016 7:11pm

Lucky Leprechaun wrote:

Hey everyone! What will you do with your phone on the day? Are you going to bring a bag with you or just carry everything in your pocket?

It depends in the centre, in tcd last year we had to leave bags and stuff in like a cafeteria area outside the hall but tbf your stuff could have been easily nicked. But ye if you brought a phone in it had to be left on the ground

Theboybang · 16-02-2016 3:48pm

I've reached breaking point with S2. My S1 and S3 scores have consistently been above the 80%ile on ME for the last few weeks
but my S2 scores are significantly lower than that.......even in the drills I am struggling! The weird thing is is that it was by FAR my best section at the ME trial exam and by far my worst at the ME simulated exam. I've gone through both of them and have looked my drill results and the scenarios with dialogue between friends/family are the ones I'm having the most difficulty with. Somebody please help me!

OMGeary · 17-02-2016 12:47am

Theboybang wrote:

I've reached breaking point with S2. My S1 and S3 scores have consistently been above the 80%ile on ME for the last few weeks but my S2 scores are significantly lower than that.......even in the drills I am struggling! The weird thing is is that it was by FAR my best section at the ME trial exam and by far my worst at the ME simulated exam. I've gone through both of them and have looked my drill results and the scenarios with dialogue between friends/family are the ones I'm having the most difficulty with. Somebody please help me!

Sounds stupid, but make sure you're in a good mood when doing section 2. Your own emotions have a real effect on how you do

taara · 20-02-2016 3:30pm

Hi there,

Just wondering if anyone has the answers to the MEntry Trial Exam from 2015. I emailed them and asked them for it but they don't have them anymore (??). Would really appreciate if you could pass them on!!
Good luck next week ^.^

lcstudent1234 · 20-02-2016 6:17pm

How long does feedback take from the ME workshop exam.? I have entered my scores and awaiting email but it hasn't come yet and wondering if I did something wrong? Thanks

Theboybang · 20-02-2016 9:53pm

lcstudent1234 wrote: »

How long does feedback take from the ME workshop exam.? I have entered my scores and awaiting email but it hasn't come yet and wondering if I did something wrong? Thanks

I got mine the next day...

yoyojc · 21-02-2016 5:15pm

How're ye're percentiles all looking? Best of luck everyone!

WorthlessPeon · 21-02-2016 5:57pm

Slowly getting there, hope to go up by a good bit on the day as well

Take Your Pants Off · 22-02-2016 7:17pm

"timed independently"
does that mean, lets say for the first question, I have only certain amount of seconds, then I must turn to the 2nd question. I cannot stick to the first qs. Does a timer go off or something ?. Also, I cannot start off with section 2 or even do the third question of section 1, before doing the first question, I must follow the order they are in?
So if I am on section 2, i cannot go back to section 1. otherwise the test will be default ?!
if there is no timer etc. then i am supposed to know how many seconds to spend in each question. how many minutes per section.?

Sorry for these silly questions. I am just starting to familarise myself with the exam structure by watching youtube videos ans any other recourse I can find online.

Doctorhopeful · 23-02-2016 3:56pm

Take Your Pants Off wrote: »

"timed independently"
does that mean, lets say for the first question, I have only certain amount of seconds, then I must turn to the 2nd question. I cannot stick to the first qs. Does a timer go off or something ?. Also, I cannot start off with section 2 or even do the third question of section 1, before doing the first question, I must follow the order they are in?
So if I am on section 2, i cannot go back to section 1. otherwise the test will be default ?!
if there is no timer etc. then i am supposed to know how many seconds to spend in each question. how many minutes per section.?

Sorry for these silly questions. I am just starting to familarise myself with the exam structure by watching youtube videos ans any other recourse I can find online.

-each question section has a designated amount of time, but each individual question doesn't.

-you can answer the questions in any one section in any order, some people skip questions to go back later, some start from the last question in the section and work towards the front.

-there are clocks all around the halls and you will be informed when each time section has only 10 minutes left. you can also wear a watch as long as it's not digital. you really should have a rough idea of how much time you have per question though.

- you must do the sections in chronological order, ie 1 > 2 > 3.. once s1 is over you absolutely cannot go back and keep answering. if you do and are caught you will be immediately asked to leave and default your test. Don't even try to be sneaky, everyone around you will be more than happy to report you for cheating.

hopefully that answered everything. the format of the exam is very easy to understand on the day, they explain and re-explain everything. best of luck and message me if you need to know anything else

Take Your Pants Off · 23-02-2016 5:27pm

Doctorhopeful wrote: »

-each question section has a designated amount of time, but each individual question doesn't.

-you can answer the questions in any one section in any order, some people skip questions to go back later, some start from the last question in the section and work towards the front.

-there are clocks all around the halls and you will be informed when each time section has only 10 minutes left. you can also wear a watch as long as it's not digital. you really should have a rough idea of how much time you have per question though.

- you must do the sections in chronological order, ie 1 > 2 > 3.. once s1 is over you absolutely cannot go back and keep answering. if you do and are caught you will be immediately asked to leave and default your test. Don't even try to be sneaky, everyone around you will be more than happy to report you for cheating.

hopefully that answered everything. the format of the exam is very easy to understand on the day, they explain and re-explain everything. best of luck and message me if you need to know anything else

Thank you very much.

David1997 · 25-02-2016 4:24pm

Just doing some final prep for the HPAT this Saturday and starting to panic a little. I'm finding it difficult to improve my section 1 but I'm pretty happy with sections 2 and 3. I've done the Career Services prep course and have worked through all their material but have found it different to the material I have from ACER. Just wondering is there any way to gauge how I'm doing as I'm finding it a bit frustrating not knowing whether my results are any good or not?

Sorry about the rant but any advice would be much appreciated!☺

DownOneTourist · 25-02-2016 5:06pm

David1997 wrote: »

Just doing some final prep for the HPAT this Saturday and starting to panic a little. I'm finding it difficult to improve my section 1 but I'm pretty happy with sections 2 and 3. I've done the Career Services prep course and have worked through all their material but have found it different to the material I have from ACER. Just wondering is there any way to gauge how I'm doing as I'm finding it a bit frustrating not knowing whether my results are any good or not?

Sorry about the rant but any advice would be much appreciated!☺

Calm down David! It really doesn't matter if your scores on Career Services or any other prep course are not up to the mark. The problem with those courses is that they repeat question styles so often that people become immune to them. I'm taking friday off completely. You need to able to think on the day.

Consonata · 25-02-2016 5:35pm

I've plateaued at around 68-70 for my average mark so I am starting to panic a bit.
I'm going to do the supplied Acer paper Friday morning and just chill out the rest of the day.
Has anybody got tips for what you should do to get in the zone?

Robbiert · 25-02-2016 6:41pm

DownOneTourist wrote: »

Calm down David! It really doesn't matter if your scores on Career Services or any other prep course are not up to the mark. The problem with those courses is that they repeat question styles so often that people become immune to them. I'm taking friday off completely. You need to able to think on the day.

I agree completely. At this stage the most useful thing you can do is relax and make sure you're ready logistically for Saturday (admission ticket etc.). By all accounts the Hpat is different to all prep courses material and we've all heard the stories of people doing much better (and much worse) in the real HPAT than papers provided by various companies. Either way its anyone's game, and in my eyes a positive and calm attitude will help anyone more than erratic cramming. Good luck.

Say hello to my little friend · 26-02-2016 12:52am

Repeating the HPAT Saturday. I am repeating the LC also
My question is that if I do a little better on the HPAT but worse in the LC can I use my 2015 LC or do I have to use the most recent one ??
Good luck to all on Sat

spurious · 26-02-2016 10:21am

As Robbiert says, get the small things organised for Saturday.

Don't be flapping about like a headless chicken, stressing yourself. Leave in plenty of time so that when you get there, you have time to find where you have to go etc.. Have someone to leave your phone with, orleave it at home - one less thing to worry about. Anything that could cause you stress or distress, deal with it in advance.

Good luck on the day (and often it is about luck) and regardless of how it goes, make it a positive experience. Perhaps the universe intends a different path for you than that which you have chosen. There are many many challenging and rewarding careers out there which bright young people like yourselves could excel in.

Whatever happens, it will not be the end of the world.

Doctorhopeful · 26-02-2016 2:56pm

Consonata wrote: »

I've plateaued at around 68-70 for my average mark so I am starting to panic a bit.
I'm going to do the supplied Acer paper Friday morning and just chill out the rest of the day.
Has anybody got tips for what you should do to get in the zone?

66% of questions correct in the real hpat for me translated to 98th &ile if that is any consolation to you

Doctorhopeful · 26-02-2016 2:57pm

Say hello to my little friend wrote: »

Repeating the HPAT Saturday. I am repeating the LC also
My question is that if I do a little better on the HPAT but worse in the LC can I use my 2015 LC or do I have to use the most recent one ??
Good luck to all on Sat

i believe you'll be able to use your LC score from 2015 with your hpat score from 2016

Lucky Leprechaun · 26-02-2016 9:00pm

I'm a little confused:

I'm bringing my passport with me and wallet for cash & leapcard and phone
Bottled water (no label)
Several HB Pencils (is it okay if brand names are on them?)
Finally the admissions ticket (Is it okay to print out in black & white?)

what do I do with my passport, wallet etc? Do I bring a bag to place them in? or can I leave it in my pocket?

You can leave your phone on the floor right?

Also on the Admissions ticket it says "Document Number" but its blank do I fill in my passport number?

thank you xoxox

Take Your Pants Off · 26-02-2016 9:12pm

Lucky Leprechaun wrote: »

I'm a little confused:

I'm bringing my passport with me and wallet for cash & leapcard and phone
Bottled water (no label)
Several HB Pencils (is it okay if brand names are on them?)
Finally the admissions ticket (Is it okay to print out in black & white?)

what do I do with my passport, wallet etc? Do I bring a bag to place them in? or can I leave it in my pocket?

You can leave your phone on the floor right?

Also on the Admissions ticket it says "Document Number" but its blank do I fill in my passport number?

thank you xoxox

You can leave your phone on the floor. facing downwards, I think.(You can def place it in the floor)
You enter your passport number in the document number.
It is okay to print it out in black and white
For the other questions, I am sure, someone will answer them for you, as I do not know either.

Consonata · 26-02-2016 9:31pm

Anybody have any ideas on how to keep the stress down coming up to tomorrow?

DownOneTourist · 26-02-2016 10:04pm

I'm going to listen to my favourite album on the train to galway, Silent Alarm by Bloc Party

David1997 · 26-02-2016 11:37pm

Not much more we can do now only try and get a good night's sleep! Good luck everyone ☺

OMGeary · 27-02-2016 1:10am

Lucky Leprechaun wrote:

what do I do with my passport, wallet etc? Do I bring a bag to place them in? or can I leave it in my pocket?

Passport is left on the table and they go around and check them, also have to show them before you go in

Jack55 · 27-02-2016 1:22am

Just out of curiosity - assuming you do decently in your HPAT, what kind of points in the LC would you be safe with for medicine?

Lucky Leprechaun · 27-02-2016 1:36am

Jack55 wrote: »

Just out of curiosity - assuming you do decently in your HPAT, what kind of points in the LC would you be safe with for medicine?

The course I went to said the LC represents around 70% overall.

I think the high 500's is where you should be aiming. After 550 the points are adjusted. So probably over 550 and a solid hpat.

WorthlessPeon · 27-02-2016 2:58pm

I have no idea how I did but I'm just glad it's over....hopefully that's the last time I'll ever have to do that disaster of a test.

Lucky Leprechaun · 27-02-2016 3:22pm

WorthlessPeon wrote: »

I have no idea how I did but I'm just glad it's over....hopefully that's the last time I'll ever have to do that disaster of a test.

amen to that haha

Bazinga_N · 27-02-2016 4:18pm

I may as well have been doing a Chinese exam for section three! It was a disaster

yoyojc · 27-02-2016 4:19pm

I found section 1 very challenging. Section 3 was nice.

This thread is so dead in comparison to last year!!

OMGeary · 27-02-2016 4:23pm

yoyojc wrote:

This thread is so dead in comparison to last year!!

Be glad about that, had a very annoying troll last year

pipestemliver · 27-02-2016 4:30pm

Section 2 was ok I thought, sections 1 and 3 very challenging

idontwantalot · 27-02-2016 5:20pm

Are we allowed to vaguely discuss some of the questions on here?

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