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What if no Vaccines work?
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05-07-2020 2:20pm#1
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The herd is thinned, the weak and immuno compromised die and the strong survive and thrive with more space and resources for fewer healthier people!
That's the Darwinist answer, it's not what I believe.
If there is no viable vaccine, the simple truth is we will adapt because we have to.
The adaptations needed to ensure low transmission are not all that onerous tbh.
Travel will be hardest hit, but that's not necessarily a bad thing.
Masks and a little consideration of hygiene and distance, again not a huge ask.
Economically, it will drive a seachange in personal service and hospitality industries that will cause hardship.
Similar impact on education and any business or establishment/School/factory that is modelled on the prior spacings and norms.
I was out in a local fairly large shopping centre today, the numbers of people not wearing masks was quite worrying IMO.
It was quite busy and I'd put the number wearing masks at 10-15%
There is a very complacent majority that think this is over, that we can revert and return to normal service.
It's not, and dropping our guard will bite us hard if we all don't take steps.
Think of it as not keeping ourselves virus free, but those we care about.0 -
The herd is thinned, the weak and immuno compromised die and the strong survive and thrive with more space and resources for fewer healthier people!
That's the Darwinist answer, it's not what I believe.
If there is no viable vaccine, the simple truth is we will adapt because we have to.
The adaptations needed to ensure low transmission are not all that onerous tbh.
Travel will be hardest hit, but that's not necessarily a bad thing.
Masks and a little consideration of hygiene and distance, again not a huge ask.
Economically, it will drive a seachange in personal service and hospitality industries that will cause hardship.
Similar impact on education and any business or establishment/School/factory that is modelled on the prior spacings and norms.
I was out in a local fairly large shopping centre today, the numbers of people not wearing masks was quite worrying IMO.
It was quite busy and I'd put the number wearing masks at 10-15%
There is a very complacent majority that think this is over, that we can revert and return to normal service.
It's not, and dropping our guard will bite us hard if we all don't take steps.
Think of it as not keeping ourselves virus free, but those we care about.
That's what happened in Milan in 1629 to 1631. During the black death 300 years before, Milan was the European city with the lowest deaths numbers, in other European cities like Hamburg or London 60% of the population perished. Milan instead closed the borders completely, the results arrived 300 years later.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/1629%E2%80%931631_Italian_plague0 -
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The herd is thinned, the weak and immuno compromised die and the strong survive and thrive with more space and resources for fewer healthier people!
That's the Darwinist answer, it's not what I believe.
If there is no viable vaccine, the simple truth is we will adapt because we have to.
The adaptations needed to ensure low transmission are not all that onerous tbh.
Travel will be hardest hit, but that's not necessarily a bad thing.
Masks and a little consideration of hygiene and distance, again not a huge ask.
Economically, it will drive a seachange in personal service and hospitality industries that will cause hardship.
Similar impact on education and any business or establishment/School/factory that is modelled on the prior spacings and norms.
I was out in a local fairly large shopping centre today, the numbers of people not wearing masks was quite worrying IMO.
It was quite busy and I'd put the number wearing masks at 10-15%
There is a very complacent majority that think this is over, that we can revert and return to normal service.
It's not, and dropping our guard will bite us hard if we all don't take steps.
Think of it as not keeping ourselves virus free, but those we care about.
Couldn't agree less. I'd love to know how keeping 2 metres away from everyone not in your household is not onerous. Only 30 and 40 somethings who's life revolves around the kids and their direct family not remembering what their own lives were like 20 and 30 years before are spouting this crap.0 -
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snotboogie wrote: »Couldn't agree less. I'd love to know how keeping 2 metres away from everyone not in your household is not onerous. Only 30 and 40 somethings who's life revolves around the kids and their direct family not remembering what their own lives were like 20 and 30 years before are spouting this crap.
When they were between 0 and 20?
I'd love to see what your definition of "onerous" is.0 -
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When they were between 0 and 20?
I'd love to see what your definition of "onerous" is.
Come on, no need to be pedantic. I said people in their 30's and 40's, not people who are 30.
Children, teenagers and people in their 20's spend a lot of time meeting new people. It is an absolutely essential part of that stage of life for most people. The idea that remote learning for college, or phased access to classrooms for schoolchildren is not onerous is a joke.
In your non onerous world; teenage discos are gone, Irish College is gone, every student in every bar in the country has to keep 1-2 metres away from those not in a pre approved list of friends, there will be rolling shutdowns of all contact sports (as we are seeing with GAA now, I'm skeptical that any contact sport will be allowed in a "new normal" once things settle down), full attendances in Croke Park and Lansdowne Road are gone (18k is being touted as the max socially distanced capacity), making new friends at your first job in the office is gone.
Onerous is changing the entire social fabric of human society. Which is what the "new normal" is; no more full classrooms, no more full lecture halls, no more full bars, no more full stadiums, no more full offices, no more full conferences.
I hope people actually wake up to this. We are not going back to normal until there is a vaccine or a covid free Island.growleaves wrote: »Lol do you honestly think 10 years of enforced social isolation and life in a semi-permanent prison state are more practical than living with covid?
It is psychotic dishonesty that is the real affliction.
Thousands of lies have been told since March, when people were talking about death rates of 4-7% and millions of corpses.
Covid has been fifty-fold less deadly than officially predicted, including in states that didn't lock down.
Cancelling human life and crawling into a hole is a choice - a wrong and evil choice.
I never said that
Nobody is proposing 10 years of enforced isolation. Its 10 years of living with the virus, which is basically keeping things as they are now for 10 years. I obviously think that this is the worst option.growleaves wrote: »In my above post, 0.05 s/b 0.5 and 0.02 s/b 0.2.
The CDC estimate ifr between 0.2-1% with "best estimate" of 0.5%. That was revised downwards from a higher estimate in mid-April.
Epidemiologists have speculated .5% since March. The seasonal flu is .1%, so Covid is about 5 times more deadly.0 -
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