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Sri Lanka Bombings 150+ dead

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  • #52
    Cody montana
    Registered Users Posts: 5,393 ✭✭✭Cody montana


    Snake Plisken wrote: »
    I'm not the one pushing an agenda you are just trying to shutdown my opinion on this attack on Christians. My point is no one in the media or politics really care about Christians or Jews being attacked. And it makes me extremely angry!

    People care about people. Go away with your religious nonsense.


  • #53
    Sawduck
    Registered Users Posts: 2,712 ✭✭✭Sawduck


    Only barbaric monsters would do something like this, I honestly didn't believe when people on here and other places were saying Christianity was under attack, it seems like sadly I was so wrong,I'm not religious but I'll pray for everyone affected by these terror attacks


  • #54
    recedite
    Closed Accounts Posts: 13,992 ✭✭✭✭recedite


    Its unclear whether there were policemen stationed at the churches, but the general public and tourists do not seem to have been warned despite some intelligence being available in advance.


    https://www.jihadwatch.org/2019/04/sri-lankas-police-chief-issued-alert-10-days-ago-warning-that-suicide-bombers-planned-to-hit-prominent-churches


  • #55
    Captain Barnacles
    Registered Users Posts: 270 ✭✭Captain Barnacles


    Very sad.
    RIP to all victims.


  • #56
    MrFresh
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,420 ✭✭✭MrFresh


    recedite wrote: »
    Its unclear whether there were policemen stationed at the churches, but the general public and tourists do not seem to have been warned despite some intelligence being available in advance.


    https://www.jihadwatch.org/2019/04/sri-lankas-police-chief-issued-alert-10-days-ago-warning-that-suicide-bombers-planned-to-hit-prominent-churches


    Seems they gave a warning 10 days ago.

    Sri Lanka's police chief made a nationwide alert 10 days before Sunday's bomb attacks in the country that suicide bombers planned to hit "prominent churches", according to the warning seen by AFP news agency.


    https://www.msn.com/en-au/news/world/sri-lanka-police-warned-of-suicide-attack-threat-before-bombings/ar-BBW97jL


  • #57
    recedite
    Closed Accounts Posts: 13,992 ✭✭✭✭recedite


    MrFresh wrote: »
    Seems they gave a warning 10 days ago.
    It says there
    Police chief Pujuth Jayasundara sent an intelligence warning to top officers on April 11 setting out the threat.
    That's not the same as warning the public.


  • #58
    Captain Barnacles
    Registered Users Posts: 270 ✭✭Captain Barnacles


    in Fairness to SnakePlisken , he has a point, do you think the Guardian/left wing media in the next few days will be posting hit pieces on how Christians in Asia are targets of massive amounts of hate crime ? - and how all Muslims should feel guilt and shame over this ??

    doubt it somehow.


  • #59
    votecounts
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,624 ✭✭✭votecounts


    RIP to all the victims of this terrorist attack.


  • #60
    MrFresh
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    Captain Barnacles wrote: »
    in Fairness to SnakePlisken , he has a point, do you think the Guardian/left wing media in the next few days will be posting hit pieces on how Christians in Asia are targets of massive amounts of hate crime ? - and how all Muslims should feel guilt and shame over this ??

    doubt it somehow.


    They don't cover much on terrorism in the Middle East or Africa either. It's the location. not the religion of the victims that determines their coverage.


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  • #61
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 17,378 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    MrFresh wrote: »
    They don't cover much on terrorism in the Middle East or Africa either. It's the location. not the religion of the victims that determines their coverage.

    It's also the sort of shared culture "white" countries share, whereas all these other countries are very different to each other.

    We can look at how our homogeneous sort of media etc. could lead in some way to Christchurch, but Nigeria and Sri Lanka are vastly different.


  • #62
    Danzy
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,169 ✭✭✭✭Danzy


    Captain Barnacles wrote: »
    in Fairness to SnakePlisken , he has a point, do you think the Guardian/left wing media in the next few days will be posting hit pieces on how Christians in Asia are targets of massive amounts of hate crime ? - and how all Muslims should feel guilt and shame over this ??

    doubt it somehow.

    There certainly is an issue.


  • #63
    suicide_circus
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,802 ✭✭✭✭suicide_circus


    MrFresh wrote: »
    They don't cover much on terrorism in the Middle East or Africa either. It's the location. not the religion of the victims that determines their coverage.
    its a bit of both


  • #64
    ilkhanid
    Registered Users Posts: 939 ✭✭✭ilkhanid


    Jimbob1977 wrote: »
    Today's spate of bombings is a return to the bad old days, albeit focused on two small minority religions in the Sri Lankan sense.


    Perhaps that was the point, attacking a religion that the Sri Lankans might not care that much about, whereas if they had attacked a Buddhist or Hindu temple the fury might have fallen on Moslems full force.


  • #65
    sk8erboii
    Site Banned Posts: 1,253 ✭✭✭sk8erboii


    Captain Barnacles wrote: »
    in Fairness to SnakePlisken , he has a point, do you think the Guardian/left wing media in the next few days will be posting hit pieces on how Christians in Asia are targets of massive amounts of hate crime ? - and how all Muslims should feel guilt and shame over this ??

    doubt it somehow.

    Why do you bring american bi partisan politics into this?

    Honestly it seems like mental illness at this point


  • #66
    RandomName2
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,570 ✭✭✭RandomName2


    The salient points.
    • This was a very well orchestrated attack that was carried out seemingly without a hitch.
    • Sri Lanka has not experienced any attack similar to this.
    • This was in effect an attack of one minority upon another. Both Christians and Muslims account for only about 9% of the population, each, on the island.
    • This was clearly also designed to damage Sri Lanka's international standing. By attacking hotels and foreigners, Sri Lanka is likely to suffer significant economic consequences.
    • Of crucial significance is whether the terrorist cell was home grown, or did it travel to Sri Lanka. Either answer poses significant questions.
    • It goes without saying that neither assassinating AlQaeda's Osama bin Laden, nor destroying ISIL's Syrian-Iraqi caliphate means an end to Islamic extremism.


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  • #67
    Gimme A Pound
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,482 ✭✭✭Gimme A Pound


    Captain Barnacles wrote: »
    in Fairness to SnakePlisken , he has a point, do you think the Guardian/left wing media in the next few days will be posting hit pieces on how Christians in Asia are targets of massive amounts of hate crime ? - and how all Muslims should feel guilt and shame over this ??

    doubt it somehow.
    Agreed but the way they posted was obnoxious.


  • #68
    RandomName2
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,570 ✭✭✭RandomName2


    Reddit is apparently censoring the discussion of Sri Lanka on its breaking news section

    https://www.reddit.com/r/unpopularopinion/comments/bfq3y6/reddit_not_covering_the_sri_lanka_bombings_the/

    I suppose it's also worth pointing out that within 24 hours of the New Zealand attack, that the thread about it here on boards was 27 pages long.


  • #69
    Kirby
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,084 ✭✭✭✭Kirby


    RandomName2 wrote: »
    Reddit is apparently censoring the discussion of Sri Lanka on its breaking news section

    https://www.reddit.com/r/unpopularopinion/comments/bfq3y6/reddit_not_covering_the_sri_lanka_bombings_the/

    I suppose it's also worth pointing out that within 24 hours of the New Zealand attack, that the thread about it here on boards was 27 pages long.

    That's not a realistic or fair comparison.

    This was a bombing attack, not a shooting.
    It wasn't live streamed to the world.
    We are a western nation and New Zealand is a "Western" nation.....while Sri Lanka is not.
    The perpetrators of this also didn't shout "Subscribe to Pewdiepie" before they detonated the bombs.

    I think these four, pretty noteworthy points, account for the lack of immediate public knowledge and discourse.


  • #70
    Charles Babbage
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,908 ✭✭✭Charles Babbage


    RandomName2 wrote: »
    The salient points.
    • This was a very well orchestrated attack that was carried out seemingly without a hitch.


    This suggests external involvement. Several bombs at the same time requires a level of organisation that would be hard to acheive for a home grown group on a first attempt.


  • #71
    BBFAN
    Registered Users Posts: 2,228 ✭✭✭BBFAN


    RandomName2 wrote: »
    The salient points.
    • This was a very well orchestrated attack that was carried out seemingly without a hitch.
    • Sri Lanka has not experienced any attack similar to this.
    • This was in effect an attack of one minority upon another. Both Christians and Muslims account for only about 9% of the population, each, on the island.
    • This was clearly also designed to damage Sri Lanka's international standing. By attacking hotels and foreigners, Sri Lanka is likely to suffer significant economic consequences.
    • Of crucial significance is whether the terrorist cell was home grown, or did it travel to Sri Lanka. Either answer poses significant questions.
    • It goes without saying that neither assassinating AlQaeda's Osama bin Laden, nor destroying ISIL's Syrian-Iraqi caliphate means an end to Islamic extremism.

    Thanks for this post Random, quite informative. Can I ask, as someone quite uneducated in religions around the world, if Christians and Muslims only cover 9% of the population what is the majority religion?


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  • #72
    BBFAN
    Registered Users Posts: 2,228 ✭✭✭BBFAN


    RandomName2 wrote: »
    Reddit is apparently censoring the discussion of Sri Lanka on its breaking news section

    https://www.reddit.com/r/unpopularopinion/comments/bfq3y6/reddit_not_covering_the_sri_lanka_bombings_the/

    I suppose it's also worth pointing out that within 24 hours of the New Zealand attack, that the thread about it here on boards was 27 pages long.

    You can point it out but it's not a fair comparison. Most Irish people know someone who lives in New Zealand, have lived there/travelled there themselves or identify with other English speaking nations more quickly than others.

    It's human nature. I've already admitted, as per my post above, that I know nothing about Sri Lanka so it makes sense that this wouldn't immediately strike a cord with me.

    Also, the link you provided does not say that Reddit is censoring any discussion, it just says it's not front page news. Reddit have no control over that, just as Boards have no control about how many people want to discuss Sri Lanka.


  • #73
    Stephen15
    Closed Accounts Posts: 7,907 ✭✭✭Stephen15


    There you the good old religion of peace back at it again with the murder of more innocent people. The usual people out accusing you of being a racist every time you criticize the i word only for you to be proven right time and time again.


  • #74
    BBFAN
    Registered Users Posts: 2,228 ✭✭✭BBFAN


    Also, I'm reserving a lot of judgement until there is actual confirmation as to who carried out these attacks. Am I right in saying that there is no confirmation as yet?


  • #75
    mikeym
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,985 ✭✭✭mikeym


    R.I.P


  • #76
    Chris_Heilong
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,974 ✭✭✭Chris_Heilong


    Islam at it again, If an ideology ever needed international regulation it is this one.


  • #77
    SMC92Ian
    Registered Users Posts: 2,015 ✭✭✭SMC92Ian


    The world is just getting insane. Every week it's something.


  • #78
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 17,378 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    It seems there was a massive failure in communicating the known threat to other parts of government. Some people knew ten days ago that prominent churches were to be attacked, but that information didn't get disseminated.


  • #79
    TheValeyard
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,738 ✭✭✭✭TheValeyard


    Over 290 now dead and that number is expected to rise. Local Islamic militant group is behind the attack according to the health ministry.

    What an absolutely horrific act of barbarism. Few nationalities from other countries also amongst the victims.

    All eyes on Kursk. Slava Ukraini.



  • #80
    Lackey
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,118 ✭✭✭Lackey


    Captain Barnacles wrote: »
    in Fairness to SnakePlisken , he has a point, do you think the Guardian/left wing media in the next few days will be posting hit pieces on how Christians in Asia are targets of massive amounts of hate crime ? - and how all Muslims should feel guilt and shame over this ??

    doubt it somehow.

    The word Christian or Catholic has not been used
    They’ve gone with ‘Easter worshipers’ and tourists

    WTF is an Easter Worshiper ?


  • #81
    no.8
    Registered Users Posts: 778 ✭✭✭no.8


    The Sri Lankan government has a lot to answer for. They knew of these threats coming from the absolute evil among us.


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  • #82
    riffmongous
    Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 12,813 Mod ✭✭✭✭riffmongous


    Lackey wrote: »
    The word Christian or Catholic has not been used
    They’ve gone with ‘Easter worshipers’ and tourists

    WTF is an Easter Worshiper ?

    Where exactly?


  • #83
    Lackey
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,118 ✭✭✭Lackey


    riffmongous wrote: »
    Where exactly?

    Don’t have a lot of time now but here’s Two
    Spot the difference

    Easter worshipers been used a lot


  • #84
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 17,378 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    declan2693 wrote: »
    What a stupid uneducated post.

    A quick google says there are 1.8 billion Muslims that 24% of the worlds population ffs and thats without Christians.

    That's absolutely hilarious.

    He was asking about Sri Lanka, where Buddhists account for 70%.


  • #85
    riffmongous
    Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 12,813 Mod ✭✭✭✭riffmongous


    Weird, a Yank thing? Like that 'holiday season' crap


  • #86
    Atoms for Peace
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,888 ✭✭✭Atoms for Peace


    Lackey wrote: »
    The word Christian or Catholic has not been used
    They’ve gone with ‘Easter worshipers’ and tourists

    WTF is an Easter Worshiper ?

    Somebody who worships the Easter bunny, they sacrifice lambs to appease him and eat eggs in celebration.


  • #87
    Odhinn
    Registered Users Posts: 8,139 ✭✭✭Odhinn


    declan2693 wrote: »
    What a stupid uneducated post.

    A quick google says there are 1.8 billion Muslims that 24% of the worlds population ffs and thats without Christians.




    No, it's perfectly fair question as hes referring to Sri Lanka.


  • #88
    98q76e12hrflnk
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,204 ✭✭✭98q76e12hrflnk


    Odhinn wrote: »
    No, it's perfectly fair question as hes referring to Sri Lanka.

    9% of Sri Lanka is muslim and yet more act of killing by the religion of peace.


  • #89
    Odhinn
    Registered Users Posts: 8,139 ✭✭✭Odhinn


    declan2693 wrote: »
    9% of Sri Lanka is muslim and yet more act of killing by the religion of peace.




    Do any of your responses ever have anything to do with what you quote in them?


  • #90
    biko
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 81,220 ✭✭✭✭biko


    riffmongous wrote: »
    Weird, a Yank thing? Like that 'holiday season' crap
    Yes, I think so.
    Looking at Google before the terror attack there are lots of US results for "Easter worshipers"
    That doesn't mean Obama and Clinton didn't specifically chose to use this phrase over "Christians" to soften the message.


    The jihadis targeted the victims specifically because they are Christian. Much like they do in Nigeria, Pakistan, India, France, Philippines, Egypt, ...


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  • #91
    leakyboots
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    https://www.theguardian.com/world/2019/apr/22/asos-billionaire-loses-three-children-sri-lanka-anders-holch-povlsen

    Owner of ASOS lost 3 children in the bombings


  • #92
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 17,378 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Jesus bombs still being found.


  • #93
    dreamliner
    Registered Users Posts: 90 ✭✭dreamliner


    Chris_Heilong wrote: »
    Islam at it again, If an ideology ever needed international regulation it is this one.

    A very uneducated post. A people who want to kill will do so, they will find a motive. In fact they feed off people believing and saying what you just said there because it furthers the divide between Muslim, Christian, Jew, Buddhist etc etc and that is exactly what they want - all out mayhem.


  • #94
    Brain Whinge
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 8 ✭Brain Whinge


    Fcuk Islam.


  • #95
    El_Bee
    Registered Users Posts: 933 ✭✭✭El_Bee


    Islam and innocent Muslims are very much as big a victim in all of this, they will be greeted with suspicion and unwelcoming attitudes because of this, this is in the past already we need to move on and forget about this unfortunate incident.


  • #96
    dreamliner
    Registered Users Posts: 90 ✭✭dreamliner


    El_Bee wrote: »
    Islam and innocent Muslims are very much as big a victim in all of this, they will be greeted with suspicion and unwelcoming attitudes because of this, this is in the past already we need to move on and forget about this unfortunate incident.

    No, the perpetrators for this atrocity should be brought to justice (those still alive) and they should feel the full force of the law against them. The answer to hate is not more hate!


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  • #97
    Brain Whinge
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 8 ✭Brain Whinge


    El_Bee wrote: »
    Islam and innocent Muslims are very much as big a victim in all of this, they will be greeted with suspicion and unwelcoming attitudes because of this, this is in the past already we need to move on and forget about this unfortunate incident.

    'Unfortunate incident'.

    Hmm.


  • #98
    morebabies
    Registered Users Posts: 539 ✭✭✭morebabies


    What is the approximate percentage of Muslims that have been radicalised does anyone know, and how does that translate into numbers, and can Islam with its many branches do anything to tackle it?


  • #99
    smurfjed
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,279 ✭✭✭✭smurfjed


    I have stayed in the Cinnamon Grand hotel a number of times in the last year, and eaten breakfast in that same restaurant. The people that worked in the hotel were extremely friendly, cooperative and helpful. I feel extremely saddened by these attacks, they really serve no purpose.


  • #100
    suicide_circus
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,802 ✭✭✭✭suicide_circus


    dreamliner wrote: »
    No, the perpetrators for this atrocity should be brought to justice (those still alive) and they should feel the full force of the law against them. The answer to hate is not more hate!

    i dont think many would advocate "hate" but neither would i advocate turning the other cheek. One must face ones enemies and defeat them.


  • #101
    suicide_circus
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,802 ✭✭✭✭suicide_circus


    morebabies wrote: »
    What is the approximate percentage of Muslims that have been radicalised does anyone know, and how does that translate into numbers, and can Islam with its many branches do anything to tackle it?
    Radicalism has been a problem for a very long time now. From the 8th to the 14th Century was its golden age during which it spread through conquest and trade and preserved much of the ancient knowledge which would have been lost during the European dark ages. After this in-fighting increased and science and reason were increasingly abandoned in favour of scripture.

    Islam does not have the advantage of a central command like a pope. Any Imam can interpret the Koran and be valid.


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