[Info] Sleep Clinics in Ireland/Sleep disorders

Fathom · 22-06-2017 4:41pm

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Troy McClure · 25-04-2018 6:43pm

Got referred by my GP to see a doctor working out of, or near the Mater Private. Got a letter saying I would have to wait 4 months and pay a whopping €350 just for the first consultation alone!! No tests nothing included. They are extra! My health insurer said they could contribute €75 towards this, but nothing towards any tests.
She's keeping people awake with those prices. Her office person tried to suggest she's one of the more reasonably priced doing it.
I might not be able to sleep, but how do they sleep at night !!

Can anyone recommend someone to see about sleep. Would love to see someone about this issue. Can travel is necessary.

Fathom · 26-04-2018 7:54pm

Wish I could help. Not in Ireland. Anyone else?

27-04-2018 6:17pm

Troy McClure wrote: »

Got referred by my GP to see a doctor working out of, or near the Mater Private. Got a letter saying I would have to wait 4 months and pay a whopping €350 just for the first consultation alone!! No tests nothing included. They are extra! My health insurer said they could contribute €75 towards this, but nothing towards any tests.
She's keeping people awake with those prices. Her office person tried to suggest she's one of the more reasonably priced doing it.
I might not be able to sleep, but how do they sleep at night !!

Can anyone recommend someone to see about sleep. Would love to see someone about this issue. Can travel is necessary.

To be honest i paid her out of pocket and paid the mater private also. it racked up but i think it was more than worth it in the end for the benefit i have got out of it. she's absolutely brilliant and i was very impressed with her and her thorough approach.
if you do go with her she can do an at-home test which is significantly cheaper than the mater in-house one, IF you meet the criteria. she gave me the option when i mentioned that my insurance were having none of it, though i didn't take it in the end as it's less reliable.

Troy McClure · 29-04-2018 12:13pm

My GP couldn't believe these rates so she is trying to sort something else out.

I was in this same clinic presenting with the same problem 12 years ago and for €200 I was given a photocopy of a photocopy about sleep hygiene. Stuff I was already doing.! It wasn't with this person I don't think as the name is not familiar. Same practice.

It may be worth it for some if you can find the money it irrelevant. If you can't then I guess it's tough! I can't see the point trying to get that amount of money, but then not been able to afford to do any tests.

Their letter actually had some rant about people constantly not showing up, and that others had to wait longer as a consequence. Does it occur to them it's easy to make an appointment and not so easy to get that kind of money to pay for it.
It seems they are charging these rates to subsidise the amount of people who don't show up!
My GP described €350 as extortionate and I agree.

Fathom · 30-04-2018 2:21am

Troy McClure wrote: »

My GP couldn't believe these rates so she is trying to sort something else out.

Good luck.

davork · 06-08-2018 8:11pm

I was diagnosed in the US back in 2002 - that woman I married didnt like my breathing stopping (hmmm!) - the surgeon wanted to do a UVPP and break my noise ('deviated septum') but the insurer was having none of it ('its cosmetic darling so you dont need it'). So off I went to become a hoser!

Back here since (mostly) 2005 and the GP referred me to a consulant near the Mater...

Said dr (who has retired I wont name her, but shes still listed as active on the various websites <facepalm>) - got a letter out of the blue saying she was retiring last year and no response from the assistant answering the phone at the practise she ran with another dr when I chase up for someone to take over... so back to getting another reference and... as this is ireland... yet another three month queue...

As for insurance? Waste of time - its a pre-existing and the insurers couldnt give a **** - so I got my prescrtiptions and collected when I was on one of the regular trips to the US - the machines cost less than 12 months on the (IE) co-pay and luckily I can pay that out

So any consultant recommendations I can 'suggest' to the GP are welcome! preferable north side!

Yenwod · 12-09-2018 8:59am

bluewolf wrote: »

To be honest i paid her out of pocket and paid the mater private also. it racked up but i think it was more than worth it in the end for the benefit i have got out of it. she's absolutely brilliant and i was very impressed with her and her thorough approach.
if you do go with her she can do an at-home test which is significantly cheaper than the mater in-house one, IF you meet the criteria. she gave me the option when i mentioned that my insurance were having none of it, though i didn't take it in the end as it's less reliable.

Would you be able to give me a ballpark figure on how much the sleep study cost in the Mater Private? I have been referred there but my insurance will only cover 35% of it and I suspect I will not be able to afford the other 65%. I don't want to bother getting an appointment with the consultant and pay their fee is there is no way I can afford the test

12-09-2018 6:22pm

Yenwod wrote: »

Would you be able to give me a ballpark figure on how much the sleep study cost in the Mater Private? I have been referred there but my insurance will only cover 35% of it and I suspect I will not be able to afford the other 65%. I don't want to bother getting an appointment with the consultant and pay their fee is there is no way I can afford the test

two overnights about 850 each, two consultant visits in-hospital the following mornings, 250 and i think one was reduced to 150.
two other consultant appointments including the initial one, 250 each.
i have a tally done up somewhere, but it ended up about 3k

Yenwod · 12-09-2018 6:31pm

bluewolf wrote: »

two overnights about 850 each, two consultant visits in-hospital the following mornings, 250 and i think one was reduced to 150.
two other consultant appointments including the initial one, 250 each.
i have a tally done up somewhere, but it ended up about 3k

Thanks, appreciate the reply. That’s quite a bit of money. I had a sleep study years ago in the Bons which was fully covered by my insurance but nothing came out of it. Still have issues & according to the doctor, the Mater is a better for sleep clinic. Will have to give it some thought & major saving. Thanks again

Yenwod · 27-09-2018 12:34pm

So I bit the bullet and made an appointment ... next appointment is Jan 29th. Is there anybody in Ireland actually sleeping???

Fathom · 28-09-2018 6:18pm

Yenwod wrote: »

Is there anybody in Ireland actually sleeping???

Can't speak for Ireland. America is fitful with Trump.

Grab All Association · 01-10-2018 10:42am

My sleep study came back normal so it’s either narcolepsy or cataplexy. It’s not everyday too, some days are fine. Don’t know where to go from here.

I’m 24/32 in the waist/leg and 49kg weight

Fathom · 01-10-2018 6:32pm

Grab All Association wrote: »

My sleep study came back normal so it’s either narcolepsy or cataplexy. It’s not everyday too, some days are fine. Don’t know where to go from here.

I’m 24/32 in the waist/leg and 49kg weight

Best to consult your GP.

mada82 · 31-01-2019 3:07pm

Yenwod wrote: »

So I bit the bullet and made an appointment ... next appointment is Jan 29th. Is there anybody in Ireland actually sleeping???

Let me know how this goes for you. Could you PM me with how you made the appointment, did you need a referral?
I am going to try CBT first.

Yenwod · 01-02-2019 12:36am

mada82 wrote: »

Let me know how this goes for you. Could you PM me with how you made the appointment, did you need a referral?
I am going to try CBT first.

PM sent

Sleep study in two weeks - hope I actually sleep some so they can get some readings :-D

Philster · 01-02-2019 9:10am

Yenwod wrote: »

Would you be able to give me a ballpark figure on how much the sleep study cost in the Mater Private? I have been referred there but my insurance will only cover 35% of it and I suspect I will not be able to afford the other 65%. I don't want to bother getting an appointment with the consultant and pay their fee is there is no way I can afford the test

I had my sleep studies there almost 2 weeks ago. My insurance covered 45% so the balance for me (excess and shortfall for 1 night) was E410. Consultant was covered for the inpatient stay. Had paid E300 to her for my first consultation earlier that week. Have to go in again this Sunday for CPAP so another 410. They did offer me the outpatient route (approx 210) for CPAP but that sounded too disjointed, whereas going in for Sunday afternoon, night and most of Monday, I'll be sent home with everything set up. I found the experience very positive so far.

Yenwod wrote: »

PM sent

Sleep study in two weeks - hope I actually sleep some so they can get some readings :-D

They won't tell you this when you go in, but if they can get even 1 hour unbroken sleep it will probably be enough. I found the equipment fine to sleep with. They bring you in early to get used to it before having to try and sleep with it.

Yenwod · 01-02-2019 10:00am

Philster wrote: »

I had my sleep studies there almost 2 weeks ago. My insurance covered 45% so the balance for me (excess and shortfall for 1 night) was E410. Consultant was covered for the inpatient stay. Had paid E300 to her for my first consultation earlier that week. Have to go in again this Sunday for CPAP so another 410. They did offer me the outpatient route (approx 210) for CPAP but that sounded too disjointed, whereas going in for Sunday afternoon, night and most of Monday, I'll be sent home with everything set up. I found the experience very positive so far.

Yeah I rang my insurance and I'm 99% sure they said they covered 35% (although I no longer have any trust in my sleep deprived brain) but when I rang the Accounts Dept in the Mater, they said my scheme covers 45% so yeah, got same price for shortfall etc. Bit of a relief, thought it would be more. That's also good to know about having to go back in if CPAP is the solution!

Philster wrote: »

They won't tell you this when you go in, but if they can get even 1 hour unbroken sleep it will probably be enough. I found the equipment fine to sleep with. They bring you in early to get used to it before having to try and sleep with it.

That's really good to know, thanks. I went for a sleep study in the Bons about 8 yrs ago and it came back clear. However, I got no sleep - very noisy corridor, light on in the room so the nurse could check if the wires were still all in place...! I was woozy leaving the hospital as I had gotten no sleep! This time I will be armed with a sleep mask and my own pillow

Thanks for the info!!

Philster · 01-02-2019 10:11am

Yenwod wrote: »

Yeah I rang my insurance and I'm 99% sure they said they covered 35% (although I no longer have any trust in my sleep deprived brain) but when I rang the Accounts Dept in the Mater, they said my scheme covers 45% so yeah, got same price for shortfall etc. Bit of a relief, thought it would be more. That's also good to know about having to go back in if CPAP is the solution!

That's really good to know, thanks. I went for a sleep study in the Bons about 8 yrs ago and it came back clear. However, I got no sleep - very noisy corridor, light on in the room so the nurse could check if the wires were still all in place...! I was woozy leaving the hospital as I had gotten no sleep! This time I will be armed with a sleep mask and my own pillow

Thanks for the info!!

Ah that's good to hear and in fairness they did give me the outpatients option to try and keep costs down. But with my sleep deprived brain at the moment I preferred to pay the extra bit and take my time and know exactly what's what going home. Can't wait to start and feel human again.

The sleep studies rooms are at the back of the Mater Private and in a low footfall place so virtually no noise at all. I brought my pillow too :pac::cool:

ETA: BTW none of my business who your consultant is but if her initials are EP, if you go in for your studies on a Sunday night she will see you in person the next day with results and go through them in detail. AFAIK if you go in any of the other nights you may not see her the next day and get the results by phone which makes it more awkward if you want to ask questions. She's very nice and didn't mind how may questions I asked.

Yenwod · 01-02-2019 10:13am

Philster wrote: »

Ah that's good to hear and in fairness they did give me the outpatients option to try and keep costs down. But with my sleep deprived brain at the moment I preferred to pay the extra bit and take my time and know exactly what's what going home. Can't wait to start and feel human again.

The sleep studies rooms are at the back of the Mater Private and in a low footfall place so virtually no noise at all. I brought my pillow too :pac::cool:

I know the feeling - hope the CPAP starts working for you. Imagine going through the day with a full nights sleep :eek: amazing!!

Yenwod · 22-02-2019 1:25pm

Results of sleep study are back and I done have apnea. I should probably be happier than I am but at this stage, I am cracking up with the tiredness.

What was weird is they recorded Stage 1, 2 & 3 sleep but no REM sleep. That has been put down to medication I’m on. However, I remember having a lot of dreams the night of the sleep study and I always have a lot of dreams nightly.

Don’t know if there is any point going back for a follow up consultantion. Too expensive anyway :’(

Fathom · 25-02-2019 10:36pm

Yenwod wrote: »

What was weird is they recorded Stage 1, 2 & 3 sleep but no REM sleep. (

No REM? Thought that always occurred. Guess there's special conditions when it doesn't.

Yenwod · 25-02-2019 10:50pm

Philster wrote: »

ETA: BTW none of my business who your consultant is but if her initials are EP, if you go in for your studies on a Sunday night she will see you in person the next day with results and go through them in detail. AFAIK if you go in any of the other nights you may not see her the next day and get the results by phone which makes it more awkward if you want to ask questions. She's very nice and didn't mind how may questions I asked.

Sorry, only noticed this add-on now, thanks. I got my results but by letter so follow up questions mean making another appointment; don’t know whether to bother although have a couple.

Yenwod · 25-02-2019 10:51pm

Fathom wrote: »

No REM? Thought that always occurred. Guess there's special conditions when it doesn't.

Yeah I duno? Maybe if I’m not getting REM sleep, that would explain my tiredness ?? Consultant didn’t say anything specifically about it really though, obviously thought it was just that night?

Fathom · 25-02-2019 10:56pm

Yenwod wrote: »

Yeah I duno? Maybe if I’m not getting REM sleep, that would explain my tiredness ?? Consultant didn’t say anything specifically about it really though, obviously thought it was just that night?

"Studies have shown that when people are deprived of REM sleep, they are not able to remember what they were taught before going to sleep. Lack of REM sleep has also been linked to certain health conditions, including migraines."

Yenwod · 25-02-2019 11:08pm

Fathom wrote: »

"Studies have shown that when people are deprived of REM sleep, they are not able to remember what they were taught before going to sleep. Lack of REM sleep has also been linked to certain health conditions, including migraines."

My memory is on the floor lately and I suffer migraines, have had 3 in the past couple of weeks. Interesting...!

Philster · 27-02-2019 12:24pm

Yenwod wrote: »

Sorry, only noticed this add-on now, thanks. I got my results but by letter so follow up questions mean making another appointment; don’t know whether to bother although have a couple.

Sorry you didn't really get any answers. At least if it was apnoea you'd have an answer and a treatment. Good luck with getting more answers

[Info] Sleep Clinics in Ireland/Sleep disorders

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