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Edwin Poots

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  • #102
    Mad_maxx
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,503 ✭✭✭✭Mad_maxx


    Normal One wrote: »
    I'm strongly in favour of a United Ireland but I disagree with us joining the commonwealth. It's an antiquated tip of the cap to imperialism/colonialism, and we owe that sort of thing absolutely nothing. It's a clean break we need.

    The insurance policy for unionists is that they'll be significant stakeholders in a new Ireland, defined and protected by a new constitution, which in turn is backed by a European (E.U.) constitution and all the rights and equality afforded by those.

    The commonwealth is a pretty harmless club , I feel nothing towards it which is why I see joining it as a very low cost gesture to unionists


  • #103
    Mad_maxx
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,503 ✭✭✭✭Mad_maxx


    IAMAMORON wrote: »
    I think this is a great idea and I cannot see why it wasn't done years ago. Even at a token level. The only reason we left before was to appease more fanatical republican nationalists who were hell bent on a clean break. Idealistic flutes like Dev etc. Sure that phucker fancied us hanging around the crossroads swapping spuds. They were building motorways in the UK and we were walking barefoot under clowns like him.

    Re-joining the commonwealth makes business sense and would certainly go a long way towards soothing Brexit concerns. It certainly would not get in the way of self determination, which for me is what having a United Ireland should be all about.

    It is the actions of a few madser fanatics that has us in the Quagmire we are in. If we could take our heads out of the swamp we might see a brighter future for everyone. That makes more sense to me and might be something worth it.

    A lot of Irish people instinctively associate The Commonwealth with former imperialism , I think most would realise it's a pretty twee get together these days

    It's politically powerless so joining would have no effect on neutrality or tax policies etc

    Join from a position of strength


  • #104
    funkey_monkey
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,415 ✭✭✭funkey_monkey


    6541 wrote: »
    If anyone saw the Stephen Nolan show tonight, they actually had the editor of The Newsletter defending his comments. It came across as just ridiculous sectarian with no leg to stand on. What is wrong with Unionists, serious media problems.

    Ben Lowry?


  • #105
    ohnonotgmail
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,513 ✭✭✭✭ohnonotgmail


    IAMAMORON wrote: »
    As a consumer i always make a point of looking up all the bargains before making a purchase, I like value and I hate wasting money on shight.

    I also make a point of becoming a member of all the customer loyalty schemes where possible, it helps to get extra after you have spent your spends.

    I don't see the Commonwealth as being any different. It is just another trade deal or customer reward scheme. I think as a country we should be taking every opportunity that arises to us, it is foolish not to.

    I don't care about being associated with Britain , it does not compromise my identity at all. Irish people should drop their inhibitions about sharing a future with Britain, they are our closet neighbours, they should be cooperated with were possible, they are not the evil enemy.

    as EU members we are not in a position to negotiate trade deals on our own.


  • #106
    6541
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,951 ✭✭✭6541


    funkey_monkey wrote: »
    Ben Lowry?

    Ya he was outrageously sectarian on TV last night. He was like a cartoon character, like a thing from bygone years. Should be put in a museum and studied.


  • #107
    IAMAMORON
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 9,078 ✭✭✭IAMAMORON


    ohnonotgmail wrote: »
    as EU members we are not in a position to negotiate trade deals on our own.

    Maybe we should start that negotiation?

    We should not be confined to what a gang of Euro stooges are telling us what to do? The concept that they care what happens politically in Ireland is a fallacy. They have only ever used this country as a stick to hit the Brits with, they don't really care.

    It was the same in WW2 and it was the same in 1973. We got dragged in with the UK and they threw money at us like throwing crisps and Coca Cola at a crying child down the pub. The EU don't give a fiddlers about us, we only got in in 73 on the back of the Brits, that was the real reason we were taken on. They did not want any hassle over the border so they took the hit on us joining simultaneously.

    As soon as Brexit is done the EU will be all over our CT rate and looking to get that paralleled to continental rates. We won't have a leg to stand on, just watch how that pans out.


  • #108
    bocaman
    Registered Users Posts: 230 ✭✭bocaman


    Poots is still stuck in the 1690's.


  • #109
    ohnonotgmail
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,513 ✭✭✭✭ohnonotgmail


    IAMAMORON wrote: »
    Maybe we should start that negotiation?

    We should not be confined to what a gang of Euro stooges are telling us what to do? The concept that they care what happens politically in Ireland is a fallacy. They have only ever used this country as a stick to hit the Brits with, they don't really care.

    It was the same in WW2 and it was the same in 1973. We got dragged in with the UK and they threw money at us like throwing crisps and Coca Cola at a crying child down the pub. The EU don't give a fiddlers about us, we only got in in 73 on the back of the Brits, that was the real reason we were taken on. They did not want any hassle over the border so they took the hit on us joining simultaneously.

    As soon as Brexit is done the EU will be all over our CT rate and looking to get that paralleled to continental rates. We won't have a leg to stand on, just watch how that pans out.

    save the IREXIT crap for elsewhere.


  • #110
    Mad_maxx
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,503 ✭✭✭✭Mad_maxx


    6541 wrote: »
    Ya he was outrageously sectarian on TV last night. He was like a cartoon character, like a thing from bygone years. Should be put in a museum and studied.

    Lowry is worse than the likes of Poots or other DUP backwoods men , he has the whole urbane intellectual thing going on but is highly intolerant and intransigent in reality


  • #111
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 0 ✭ [Deleted User]


    Mad_maxx wrote: »
    Lowry is worse than the likes of Poots or other DUP backwoods men , he has the whole urbane intellectual thing going on but is highly intolerant and intransigent in reality

    He is a bollocks


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  • #112
    larva
    Registered Users Posts: 164 ✭✭larva


    21 Days later...I cant wait for the movie/documentary.


  • #113
    Gregor Samsa
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,089 ✭✭✭Gregor Samsa


    ohnonotgmail wrote: »
    as EU members we are not in a position to negotiate trade deals on our own.

    Malta and Cyprus are both members of the Commonwealth of Nations, as well as being members of the EU. The UK was obviously a member of both until recently.

    There's not very much to the "trade" aspect of the Commonwealth. There's no legal framework that binds all members in this area.


  • #114
    ohnonotgmail
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,513 ✭✭✭✭ohnonotgmail


    Gregor Samsa wrote: »
    Malta and Cyprus are both members of the Commonwealth of Nations, as well as being members of the EU.

    the commonwealth is not a trading bloc.


  • #115
    endacl
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,353 ✭✭✭✭endacl


    larva wrote: »
    21 Days later...I cant wait for the movie/documentary.

    Hardly enough material to make a moderate length trailer.

    :D


  • #116
    ooter
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,251 ✭✭✭ooter


    what prog was Lowry on last night?
    would like to watch it back.


  • #117
    Necro
    Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 52,134 Mod ✭✭✭✭Necro


    No need for duplication on the topic, there's a thread here: https://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2058181549


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