Edwin Poots

FTA69

Junkyard Tom is right too though. The idea of some massive Loyalist armed campaign acting as the IRA in reverse so to speak won’t happen. The way the demographics are in the Six Counties, it wouldn’t be feasible. What are you going to have? An independent North Down and Antrim? If we get to that point you’ll probably have a majority of Protestants who will be resigned to the idea and most people there will be happy with continued devolution and cultural protections etc. People on about Republican paramilitary responses etc are deluded. The remnants of armed Republicanism are tiny and uninfluential and if we’re in a situation of unity being facilitated they won’t even serve a political purpose.

I wouldn’t be surprised to see a period of unrest that having been said, similar to the fleg protests etc but you won’t have a massive civil war because there’s no feasible end goal for it. Even that will peter out in a short time I think. Likewise I wouldn’t be surprised to see people moving to Scotland etc but you’ll be looking at a very small and embittered group of people who will do so.

IAMAMORON

Mad_maxx wrote: »

im also by the way in favour of us rejoining the commonwealth tomorrow as a way of showing unionists that we are not anti british , the commonwealth is a harmless club of nations , canada are members and they are about as british as michael healy rae , the centuries of british oppression is not reason to say NO to rejoining we would do so now from a position of strength


its reasonable to provide assurances to unionists and the commonwealth is a simple token of friendship

I think this is a great idea and I cannot see why it wasn't done years ago. Even at a token level. The only reason we left before was to appease more fanatical republican nationalists who were hell bent on a clean break. Idealistic flutes like Dev etc. Sure that phucker fancied us hanging around the crossroads swapping spuds. They were building motorways in the UK and we were walking barefoot under clowns like him.

Re-joining the commonwealth makes business sense and would certainly go a long way towards soothing Brexit concerns. It certainly would not get in the way of self determination, which for me is what having a United Ireland should be all about.

It is the actions of a few madser fanatics that has us in the Quagmire we are in. If we could take our heads out of the swamp we might see a brighter future for everyone. That makes more sense to me and might be something worth it.

arctictree

I think in reality what will happen is that we will enter a period of a nationalist majority in the assembly (and yes, I know how the voting structure works) and uber co-operation with the Republic. We could even end up in a situation with a Sinn Fein first minister and a Sinn Fein Taoiseach. The country would in effect be run as one and Sinn Fein will bide their time and only run a border poll when they are confident of a win.

Zebra3

Kermit.de.frog wrote: »

It was considerably worse. A full scale public funeral by law makers breaking their own rules.



The other parties should have walked away from the assembly for a display of absolute gross negligence by a party obviously unfit to govern.

There is no if/buts/maybes. And not ONE of them resigned or was pushed out.

How many resignations over this?

https://www.independent.ie/videos/gardai-line-the-streets-for-colm-horkans-funeral-39303434.html

Are these people fit to police us?

NIMAN

FTA69 wrote: »

I wouldn’t be surprised to see people moving to Scotland etc but you’ll be looking at a very small and embittered group of people who will do so.

Like Arlene.

I am not just being pedantic in saying this, she actually said she'd leave the country in the case of a united Ireland.

Think it was a Paddy Kielty documentary on BBC NI a couple of years back.

IAMAMORON

NIMAN wrote: »

Like Arlene.

I am not just being pedantic in saying this, she actually said she'd leave the country in the case of a united Ireland.

Think it was a Paddy Kielty documentary on BBC NI a couple of years back.

Where do you think she has her eye on?

In fairness if I was living near Lisnaskea I would be looking to move also:pac::pac:

cameramonkey

IAMAMORON wrote: »

That is exactly what their aim will be. I would not take it lightly either. They will kick up bigtime.

Tbh I am not an expert in paramilitary activity, but yes, I doubt it will take a fortnight for loyalist paramilitaries to come out the alleys and kick off.

There might be trouble all right but then again they might see the writing on the wall like the Boers in South Africa, I mean things are only going one way and they need to make an accommodation with the people on the rest of the Island at some stage.

A big problem for Loyalist terrorists will be that unlike last time they will not have the support of the British Army, MI5 and the RUC in carrying out their attack. they will not be supplied with weapons or intelligence information and will not be directed by the UK security forces this time. In fact they UK security services may actually act against them. Without the support of the British military, intelligence and police they would be much easier to deal with.
If you look at Unionist terror organisations the caliber of their members would not be great and they have diversified much more into drug dealing and other forms of crime.

IAMAMORON

cameramonkey wrote: »

There might be trouble all right but then again they might see the writing on the wall like the Boers in South Africa, I mean things are only going one way and they need to make an accommodation with the people on the rest of the Island at some stage.

A big problem for Loyalist terrorists will be that unlike last time they will not have the support of the British Army, MI5 and the RUC in carrying out their attack. they will not be supplied with weapons or intelligence information and will not be directed by the UK security forces this time. In fact they UK security services may actually act against them. Without the support of the British military, intelligence and police they would be much easier to deal with.
If you look at Unionist terror organisations the caliber of their members would not be great and they have diversified much more into drug dealing and other forms of crime.

Yeah, your probably right. They will just bow down to their nationalist neighbours and accept a united Ireland with a wry smile. They will give up singing phuck the pope also. I can see them giving up the bonfires and the summer marching too, they are sound like that.

NIMAN

Found it, 25:20 into it.

FTA69

She may well do. Some Republicans have this notion of Unionists as deluded dupes but at the end of the day they’re as sincere in their beliefs as anyone else. Foster grew up in an isolated border Protestant community, her local church is filled with graves of people killed by the IRA. They attempted to kill her father as well. Stuff like that runs very deep.

Equally most Irish Unionists are also intensely attached to where they’re from. They have little to no equivalent in Britain itself. I’m working with a large group of binmen in London one of whom is a staunch Loyalist and they all call him “Irish Mark” and see no difference between him and me.

A few will probably leave, but most will get on with things I think. Perhaps the only equivalent they have is in Scotland but there is also a very real possibility of Scottish independence looming again. If Scotland becomes independent then the jig is up completely. The Brits will be immediately onto the Dublin government and putting a framework in place I’d say.

IAMAMORON

I don't think Unionists in Fermanagh or Tyrone are the issue to be honest. They mightn't be as militant as the Sandy Row or Larne. That is where the trouble will be kicking up.

I doubt Arlene Foster will be leader of the DUP by the time any border poll did come around. It will be some mad radical Teigue hating yahoo from the Shankill. I would say he wont struggle for tools either despite what some people reckon.

grayzer75

IAMAMORON wrote: »

I don't think Unionists in Fermanagh or Tyrone are the issue to be honest. They mightn't be as militant as the Sandy Row or Larne. That is where the trouble will be kicking up.

I doubt Arlene Foster will be leader of the DUP by the time any border poll did come around. It will be some mad radical Teigue hating yahoo from the Shankill. I would say he wont struggle for tools either despite what some people reckon.

The so called clean living brethren have always used the working class loyalist for their own aim whether it be marches blocked near interfaces or young girls trying to get to school they will be the ones in the background whipping up the crowd with inflammatory speeches and then denying involvement when it all kicks off.

They are the more dangerous ones as they lead the pack from the background.

IAMAMORON

grayzer75 wrote: »

The so called clean living brethren have always used the working class loyalist for their own aim whether it be marches blocked near interfaces or young girls trying to get to school they will be the ones in the background whipping up the crowd with inflammatory speeches and then denying involvement when it all kicks off.

They are the more dangerous ones as they lead the pack from the background.

Exactly.

Far more likely. Some flute like Lord Dodds.

Odhinn

IAMAMORON wrote: »

Exactly.

Far more likely. Some flute like Lord Dodds.

That's Lord "Smiler" Dodds to you.

IAMAMORON

Odhinn wrote: »

That's Lord "Smiler" Dodds to you.

Would you not just call him Nigel?

Odhinn

IAMAMORON wrote: »

Would you not just call him Nigel?

He doesn't strike me as encouraging informality, tbh.

IAMAMORON

On a more serious note I think current DUP leaders would need to catch themselves on to what the world is doing. Their anti gay stance stinks and they have struggled to keep up with how younger people see the world. I mean the hypocracy is huge, especially considering the alleged pastimes of the like of Donaldson.

They are also anti abortion, and too far right. At some point you should be seeing some sort of radical polar change in support, probably in favour of the UUP or the Alliance party. At some point the younger demography must be scratching their heads and saying why should I vote for these flutes?

JohnnyFlash

I think the long knives are out for Arlene in her own party. Dodds losing his seat was a significant setback for her.

cameramonkey

IAMAMORON wrote: »

Yeah, your probably right. They will just bow down to their nationalist neighbours and accept a united Ireland with a wry smile. They will give up singing phuck the pope also. I can see them giving up the bonfires and the summer marching too, they are sound like that.

I am not saying they will like it or that they will drop their "culture" but if they start a war it will be one they will not be winning. Most Unionist will realise that the end game in nigh and things need to be worked out rather than fought about. All this childish sectarian baiting by the DUP is just for show and votes, it comes from a position of weakness not strength. They had the whip hand over nationalists in the last few years because of the Tories need for them but they blew it spectacularly. they had a chance to be magnanimous and build a NI for all citizens, instead they jumped into the sectarian bunker and baited the nationalist community only to be ridden sideways several times by Tories and then dumped. just like all abused they sucked it up and came back for more.

Normal One

Mad_maxx wrote: »

im also by the way in favour of us rejoining the commonwealth tomorrow as a way of showing unionists that we are not anti british , the commonwealth is a harmless club of nations , canada are members and they are about as british as michael healy rae , the centuries of british oppression is not reason to say NO to rejoining we would do so now from a position of strength


its reasonable to provide assurances to unionists and the commonwealth is a simple token of friendship

I'm strongly in favour of a United Ireland but I disagree with us joining the commonwealth. It's an antiquated tip of the cap to imperialism/colonialism, and we owe that sort of thing absolutely nothing. It's a clean break we need.

The insurance policy for unionists is that they'll be significant stakeholders in a new Ireland, defined and protected by a new constitution, which in turn is backed by a European (E.U.) constitution and all the rights and equality afforded by those.

end of the road

Eric Cartman wrote: »

thats it, its like a lad on the dole wanting a rolls Royce, it seems brilliant till you think about how utterly unaffordable it is.

it looks unaffordable because of all of the contributions made to british institutions which make up a large proportion of the subsidies NI receive, not to mention britain's refusal to really invest in it and creat jobs.
take all of those contributions away and a UI is very affordable as a UI will certainly gain greater international investment and more jobs.
it's very clear NI has lots of potential and a UI will help it reach that potential.
while it remains part of the UK it will have nothing going for it.

end of the road

IAMAMORON wrote: »

I doubt it will get as far as a vote. I would say the UDA or UVF strategy would be to start murdering catholics beforehand. it makes the most sense. Once the trouble kicked off again nationalist paramilitries will get their hands forced. They ( the UDA ) did the exact same thing in the 60's.

I agree that most British MP's want rid of the north, but they cannot be seen to be acting in that way. As soon as the violence kicked off you are into the army being redeployed etc etc. It sounds awful but hardline loyalists won't care.

If unionists were at all interested in a republic you would see more evidence of this. For example there would be no bullshight around language provisions or education and domestic policy etc.

More likely I could see a more autonomous 6 county NI developing over the next 100 years. Nationalist rights will improve, language etc, it will be governed by concession. But there will be hard lines, and a full 32 county republic will be one of them. Any mootings of a border poll will cause eruptions on the streets, everyone knows this.

britain won't re-deploy the army to NI again, they have already made that clear.

Quantum Erasure wrote: »

‘Our demand is a very simple one. We ask for no privileges, but we are determined that no one shall have privileges over us. We ask for no special rights, but we claim the same rights from the same government as every other part of the United Kingdom. We ask for nothing more; it is our inalienable right as citizens of the United Kingdom, and Heaven help the men who try and take it from us.’

they would continue to have those rights in a UI where the rights do not conflict with irish law.
so they would still remain UK citizens if that is what they want.

IAMAMORON wrote: »

I think this is a great idea and I cannot see why it wasn't done years ago. Even at a token level. The only reason we left before was to appease more fanatical republican nationalists who were hell bent on a clean break. Idealistic flutes like Dev etc. Sure that phucker fancied us hanging around the crossroads swapping spuds. They were building motorways in the UK and we were walking barefoot under clowns like him.

Re-joining the commonwealth makes business sense and would certainly go a long way towards soothing Brexit concerns. It certainly would not get in the way of self determination, which for me is what having a United Ireland should be all about.

It is the actions of a few madser fanatics that has us in the Quagmire we are in. If we could take our heads out of the swamp we might see a brighter future for everyone. That makes more sense to me and might be something worth it.

rejoining the common wealth would be pointless as there isn't anything to gain from it.
there are no economic benefits as we already trade with the nations in it that are worth trading with.
had we remained within it after the foundation of the state we wouldn't have got any motor ways any earlier, we would actually have ended up like NI with still barely any real infrastructural investment.

Normal One

end of the road wrote: »

it looks unaffordable because of all of the contributions made to british institutions which make up a large proportion of the subsidies NI receive, not to mention britain's refusal to really invest in it and creat jobs.
take all of those contributions away and a UI is very affordable as a UI will certainly gain greater international investment and more jobs.
it's very clear NI has lots of potential and a UI will help it reach that potential.
while it remains part of the UK it will have nothing going for it.

I'm confident that the EU would be happy to allow a ton of subsidies and investments flow into the (former) 6 counties and border region. Best get it done sooner rather than later, when German reunification is still in living memories. If Brexit goes badly wrong for the brits, it would be another kick in the teeth for them.

An Ireland-friendly American administration would like a piece of the pie too, the Clintons for example, point to their involvement in the GFA.

Junkyard Tom

Normal One wrote: »

If Brexit goes badly wrong for the brits.

NI has the fewest political consequences for the Tories (or Labour for that matter) in Westminster if they want to throw it off HMS Britannia for being the dead weight it is.

It's likely that NI will face severe austerity, at the hands of 'er Maj's Treasury, to help the soon-to-be impoverished 'comfortable middle' to decide a brighter future lies in the EU via a Unified Ireland.

end of the road

Normal One wrote: »

I'm confident that the EU would be happy to allow a ton of subsidies and investments flow into the (former) 6 counties and border region. Best get it done sooner rather than later, when German reunification is still in living memories. If Brexit goes badly wrong for the brits, it would be another kick in the teeth for them.

An Ireland-friendly American administration would like a piece of the pie too, the Clintons for example, point to their involvement in the GFA.

agreed.
once quality infrastructure is put into the area, businesses will be created, foreign companies will come and northern ireland will become an attractive place to live.
britain has stifled the people there for too long and it must end.

The_Fitz

The days of well-heeled Unionists turning out en masse for trouble have gone in my opinion. Compare Drumcree to the city hall flag protests.

Most Loyalists have completely shifted their focus solely to crime and probably already have a good working relationship with their southern criminal counterparts. To quote Big Merv (RIP) "Our only loyalty was crime".

joseywhales

These fringe actors are merely that. The decisions will be made in the pockets of the middle class both north and south, then the rhetoric can be invented by these fringes but they won't be influencing any change. Same as ever, ordinary people want security for their families, brexit means that the republic will continue to outpace the north in terms of financial security, the uks handling of covid means it's citizens may feel less secure in terms of health than those in the republic. Bit by bit this can erode confidence in unionism in an nice peaceful way.

Hamsterchops

So what exactly did Edwin Poots say that is so wrong?

Lots of examples off GAA activities not exactly complying with the covid guidelines. It cant be forgotten either the BLM marches which incidentally tends to be a Sinn Fein / Nationalist supported movement in the main.

The 6 to 1 ratio is not surprising.

The_Fitz

Hamsterchops wrote: »

So what exactly did Edwin Poots say that is so wrong?

Implying that your political affiliation was a factor in spreading the disease. UUP ran department of health confirmed that political affiliation data is not recorded when registering a case, which would be absurd.

He is probably correct that it is more rampant in Nationalist areas, but he doesn't take into account societal factors. Difference between North Antrim and Derry would be explainable. But no way is this virus moving differently between the New Lodge and Tigers Bay.

At least it wasn't as bad as some of the stuff his da used to come out with:

“I would cut off all supplies, including water and electricity, to Catholic areas. And I would stop Catholics from getting social security.

“It is the only way to deal with enemies of the state and to stamp out the present troubles.”

The_Fitz

Deleted User wrote: »

Lots of examples off GAA activities not exactly complying with the covid guidelines. It cant be forgotten either the BLM marches which incidentally tends to be a Sinn Fein / Nationalist supported movement in the main.

The 6 to 1 ratio is not surprising.

Has this ratio been proven?

Hamsterchops

The_Fitz wrote: »

Implying that your political affiliation was a factor in spreading the disease. UUP ran department of health confirmed that political affiliation data is not recorded when registering a case, which would be absurd.

He is probably correct that it is more rampant in Nationalist areas, but he doesn't take into account societal factors. Difference between North Antrim and Derry would be explainable. But no way is this virus moving differently between the New Lodge and Tigers Bay.

I don't know the details, but logic might dictate that the massive IRA/Storey funeral + all the big GAA matches don't help to stop the spread .....

Not good for thousands of people to be gathering in close proximity together, I guess that's what Poots is on about, albeit in a clumsy way.

joseywhales

Hamsterchops wrote: »

I don't know the details, but logic might dictate that the massive IRA/Storey funeral + all the big GAA matches don't help to stop the spread .....

Not good for thousands of people to be gathering in close proximity together, I guess that's what Poots is on about, albeit in a clumsy way.

It wasn't just clumsy, it was a lie. I'm very confident it was a lie because I dont know any study that could be run that would accurately map political affiliation with covid positivity.

Junkyard Tom

Hamsterchops wrote: »

So what exactly did Edwin Poots say that is so wrong?

Hamsterchops wrote: »

I don't know the details, but logic might dictate that the massive IRA/Storey funeral + all the big GAA matches don't help to stop the spread .....

Not good for thousands of people to be gathering in close proximity together, I guess that's what Poots is on about, albeit in a clumsy way.

Poots has an ally in the South.

Meanwhile back in the 21st Century the consequences of the DUP's actions manifest themselves.

'The UK food and drink industry warns Boris Johnson companies will have to pull out of Northern Ireland due to Brexit'

businessinsider.com

IAMAMORON

end of the road wrote: »

rejoining the common wealth would be pointless as there isn't anything to gain from it.
there are no economic benefits as we already trade with the nations in it that are worth trading with.
had we remained within it after the foundation of the state we wouldn't have got any motor ways any earlier, we would actually have ended up like NI with still barely any real infrastructural investment.

As a consumer i always make a point of looking up all the bargains before making a purchase, I like value and I hate wasting money on shight.

I also make a point of becoming a member of all the customer loyalty schemes where possible, it helps to get extra after you have spent your spends.

I don't see the Commonwealth as being any different. It is just another trade deal or customer reward scheme. I think as a country we should be taking every opportunity that arises to us, it is foolish not to.

I don't care about being associated with Britain , it does not compromise my identity at all. Irish people should drop their inhibitions about sharing a future with Britain, they are our closet neighbours, they should be cooperated with were possible, they are not the evil enemy.

Hamsterchops

Junkyard Tom wrote: »

Poots has an ally in the South.

The gist of Poots comments (re mass gatherings) is dead right. That IRA-Storey funeral did the North-West of this island no favours in stopping the spread of the virus. Mass gatherings at GAA matches obviously don't help either.

Leaving his Nationalist V Unionist jibes aside, the science part of his post is obviously correct. I don't think the virus knows what ones politics or religion are, so on that point he's totally wrong.

Cheltenham was another disaster which played straight into the hands of the virus which loves mass gatherings.

Not sure all this makes me an ally of Mr Poots, unless you're referring to another poster :cool:

Junkyard Tom

Hamsterchops wrote: »

The gist of Poots comments (re mass gatherings) is dead right.

Poots is dog-whistling like a champion sheep herder. You know what he's implying and you agree with it. Own that shit and quit with the 'Mr Innocent Question' rhetoric.

https://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showpost.php?p=114974373&postcount=1732

end of the road

IAMAMORON wrote: »

As a consumer i always make a point of looking up all the bargains before making a purchase, I like value and I hate wasting money on shight.

I also make a point of becoming a member of all the customer loyalty schemes where possible, it helps to get extra after you have spent your spends.

I don't see the Commonwealth as being any different. It is just another trade deal or customer reward scheme. I think as a country we should be taking every opportunity that arises to us, it is foolish not to.

I don't care about being associated with Britain , it does not compromise my identity at all. Irish people should drop their inhibitions about sharing a future with Britain, they are our closet neighbours, they should be cooperated with were possible, they are not the evil enemy.

we have already taken the opportunities that the common wealth could offer by trading with the nations out of it worth trading with.
we already fully co-operate with britain and rejoining an outdated entity with nothing more to offer us wouldn't constitute further co-operation with britain.
there is just no point or reason in rejoining the common wealth, it offers us nothing more and we have better things to do then having anything to do with it, it will likely fade away in the next number of decades anyway.

Hamsterchops

Junkyard Tom wrote: »

Own that shit and quit with the 'Mr Innocent Question' rhetoric.

Are you ill, or are you just wanting conflict?

Read my posts man, and stop trying to troll. And you're just as bad 'end of the road' for thanking him. I can only presume that because I mentioned Storeys funeral it has upset you?

Junkyard Tom

Hamsterchops wrote: »

I can only presume that because I mentioned Storeys funeral it has upset you?

Storey's funeral was in June and is still front-and-centre of your mind yet you suggest I'm ill.

Think about that.

Hamsterchops

Junkyard Tom wrote: »

Storey's funeral was in June and is still front-and-centre of your mind yet you suggest I'm ill.

Think about that.

You rant about Poots being a dog whistler, but you're just as bad as him on this little forum with your smart arse little post saying "Poots has an ally in the Souh"....

You know exactly what your doing matey, and you can get stuffed. Any negative posts against the IRA and you get you digs in.

I never said I was a fan of Poots, Mr smart arse

IAMAMORON

end of the road wrote: »

we have already taken the opportunities that the common wealth could offer by trading with the nations out of it worth trading with.

Which nations are you referring to?

How many people were at the Storey funeral. Which lasted one day?

How many people were at the BLM protests and how long did they last?

Which is likely to have lead to more spread of covid?

Junkyard Tom

Hamsterchops wrote: »

You know exactly what your doing matey

Underscoring hypocrisy and rhetoric.

Any negative posts against the IRA and you get you digs in

I know the IRA were a ruthless paramilitary organisation who did some vicious things and I know that the picture you paint of violence in Ireland is an utterly ridiculous Cowboys-and-Indians fantasy.

The British empire was literally built on murder and slavery and maintained by its threat and it was no different for Ireland.

Hamsterchops

Junkyard Tom wrote: »

Underscoring hypocrisy and rhetoric.

The British empire was literally built on murder and slavery and maintained by its threat and it was no different for Ireland.

Oh God no, not the British Empire again :rolleyes:

Honestly, must you bang on about the British Empire at every turn when a poster criticises the PIRA. It's like it gives you an electric shock if they're mentioned in a negative way, hilarious.

Back on planet earth, whether it's the Storey-IRA funeral, Cheltenham or a big GAA event, mass gatherings are not going to help the fight against Covid-19. A rather simple message really, and nothing to do with Empires.

Junkyard Tom

Hamsterchops wrote: »

Honestly, must you bang on about the British Empire at every turn when a poster criticises the PIRA. It's like it gives you an electric shock if they're mentioned in a negative way, hilarious.

The Provos were a symptom of British/Unionist violence, expect to be challenged on it when you ignore that fact.

Hamsterchops

Junkyard Tom wrote: »

The Provos were a symptom of British/Unionist violence, expect to be challenged on it when you ignore that fact.

Have you gone completely loop the loop?

This thread is about the spread of the Coronavirus on this island, and somehow you're buying into the Poots argument all about Republicanism Vs Loyalism + Empires and Unicorns that don't exist.

Your brain seems to be totally addled and besotted with defending Republicanism, in other words you are Edwin Poots opposite number.

Forget his politics for one minute (if you can) and think of the bigger picture mentioned numerous times before in this thread re large gatherings.

Take out the Nationalist Vs Unionist 6-1 ratio which may or may be crap, and just accept that large gatherings are not good in the current Covid climate.

6541

If anyone saw the Stephen Nolan show tonight, they actually had the editor of The Newsletter defending his comments. It came across as just ridiculous sectarian with no leg to stand on. What is wrong with Unionists, serious media problems.

Francie Barrett

I am not saying what happened at the Storey funeral was right, but to suggest that it led to what Edwin Poots was saying is just totally incorrect. The figures are all in the link below, there's nothing there so suggest any spike in the weeks after the funeral.

https://app.powerbi.com/view?r=eyJrIjoiZGYxNjYzNmUtOTlmZS00ODAxLWE1YTEtMjA0NjZhMzlmN2JmIiwidCI6IjljOWEzMGRlLWQ4ZDctNGFhNC05NjAwLTRiZTc2MjVmZjZjNSIsImMiOjh9

If Poots had any self-respect, he would just come out and admit that he got this one wrong. Of course he will never do that, he is a vile bigot.

grayzer75

6541 wrote: »

If anyone saw the Stephen Nolan show tonight, they actually had the editor of The Newsletter defending his comments. It came across as just ridiculous sectarian with no leg to stand on. What is wrong with Unionists, serious media problems.

Pass no remarks of him, he's one of the biggest bigots in the north and uses his rag to push his agenda.