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General Arcade & Retro Chat' Special Championship Edition

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  • Moderators, Computer Games Moderators Posts: 3,184 Mod ✭✭✭✭Dr Bob


    Retr0gamer wrote: »
    Can't believe we are finally getting secret of mana 3 n English finally. Always thought it would never happen considering the fan translator said it was one of the most insane coding exercises he ever did.



    Konami bought Hudson soft years ago who are the copyright holders of the pc engine
    Konami " we're bringing out the PC Engine mini.."
    Everybody "Yay!"
    Konami " Its a pachinko machine"
    Everyone " Boo"

    European release though , hopefully they dont mean " places in Europe that got the PCE back then "


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,242 ✭✭✭MrVestek


    Needs a knuckles cartridge for extra effect,
    maybe an action reply too

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    ;)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 35,259 ✭✭✭✭o1s1n
    Master of the Universe


    The Core Grafix PC Engine is already a PC Engine mini! :D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,382 ✭✭✭✭rubadub


    see this also

    o1s1n wrote: »
    The Core Grafix PC Engine is already a PC Engine mini! :D

    I was wondering if the mini turbo would be bigger than the original pc engine. Still can't believe the made it unncessarily huge back then. Can just picture all these Japanese engineers proud as punch with their efforts on getting it so small and then told "the stupid yanks want it huge"

    think all 3 are similar vids EDIT- actually the pc engine one shows some different games






    https://www.theverge.com/2019/6/11/18662198/turbografx-16-mini-console-announced-konami
    The games announced so far are:

    R-Type
    New Adventure Island
    Ninja Spirit
    Ys Book I & II
    Dungeon Explorer
    Alien Crush


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,757 ✭✭✭Inviere


    I'm hitting burnout with all these 'mini' consoles hopping on the bandwagon.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,997 ✭✭✭Shapey Fiend


    I don't think these things are aimed at people are on a retro forum. Will be interesting to see if the non-Nintendo ones end up doing decent numbers.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 35,259 ✭✭✭✭o1s1n
    Master of the Universe


    Yeah I'd imagine the kind of person who'd still be enthused about the PCE would also be the same kind of person who would probably already own one.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,382 ✭✭✭✭rubadub


    o1s1n wrote: »
    Yeah I'd imagine the kind of person who'd still be enthused about the PCE would also be the same kind of person who would probably already own one.

    over here anyway. I was wondering if the previous poster meant worldwide sales.

    Most people I knew into games around the time of these consoles would still never have heard of the pc engine.


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Computer Games Moderators Posts: 51,849 CMod ✭✭✭✭Retr0gamer


    Dr Bob wrote: »
    Konami " we're bringing out the PC Engine mini.."
    Everybody "Yay!"
    Konami " Its a pachinko machine"
    Everyone " Boo"

    European release though , hopefully they dont mean " places in Europe that got the PCE back then "

    Was never really released in Europe officially. It was grey importers buying us machines and modding them for power and 50hz with Hudson/nec just turned a blind eye.


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Computer Games Moderators Posts: 51,849 CMod ✭✭✭✭Retr0gamer


    o1s1n wrote: »
    Yeah I'd imagine the kind of person who'd still be enthused about the PCE would also be the same kind of person who would probably already own one.

    PCE collecting is so insane on the wallet if they slap a few holy grails on there I'd be happy.


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  • Moderators, Computer Games Moderators Posts: 3,184 Mod ✭✭✭✭Dr Bob


    Retr0gamer wrote: »
    Was never really released in Europe officially. It was grey importers buying us machines and modding them for power and 50hz with Hudson/nec just turned a blind eye.
    Bugger , I could have sworn it got a release in France or the Netherlands?

    "It also had a limited release in the United Kingdom and Spain in 1990, known as simply TurboGrafx and based on the American model, while the Japanese model was imported and distributed in France in 1989. "

    That explains it


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,663 ✭✭✭✭McDermotX


    Dr Bob wrote: »
    Bugger , I could have sworn it got a release in France or the Netherlands?

    "It also had a limited release in the United Kingdom and Spain in 1990, known as simply TurboGrafx and based on the American model, while the Japanese model was imported and distributed in France in 1989. "

    That explains it

    It was the Telegames crowd, IIRC, that bought up the UK PAL stock (after NEC bottled it) and sold them via mail order, though I think one of the smaller retail chains got a supply from them as well.
    Can't say I had the pleasure at the time, and TBH, I don't know how anyone could fancy a similar styling to the US model over the classic PCE design.


    Edit - scan of the box art
    TurboGrafx_UK_Box_Front.jpg


  • Registered Users Posts: 6,290 ✭✭✭DaveyDave


    Thought I'd finally get around to posting a few pics from my trip to Toronto last month.

    First up is Tilt, a nice little barcade. Leaning more towards games and beers than food. Food is more snacks and less sit down meal. €5 nachos, €8/9 sandwich/burger with fries. Deep fried Mars bar was lovely. $5/€3.20 in, 2 for 1 Monday, $2/€1.30 Tuesday, all free play.

    Not a single broken button or joystick. 2:1 parent to kid policy, limited times etc. Had a few booths setup with Mega Drive, NES with Everdrive. GameCube with Mario Kart, a few cocktail cabs, some skeeball, foosball, basketball. One machine had Pandora 5.

    Nice selection of pins too. Full list of games on their website for anyone interested :)

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    Next is the TV Museum. One large room that you do a loop around going through the history of TV, very interesting to see some of the first TVs and how they work. Probably only took about an hour, a bit longer if you use the app/site audio guide. The GF was tired so didn't stick around too long :)

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    Then I saw this in the Scotiabank Theatre after seeing a movie, it was nice to see an older machine among Time Crisis 4, Aliens Extermination, Fast & Furious etc.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 30,123 ✭✭✭✭Star Lord


    Great pics! That Barcade looks great! And that old Trinitron looks like one we used to have back in the day!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 35,259 ✭✭✭✭o1s1n
    Master of the Universe


    Can almost feel the heat from the glow in those photos, lovely!


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Computer Games Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 34,633 CMod ✭✭✭✭CiDeRmAn


    I passed on what I thought was an overpriced Trini not so long ago... I think if one comes up again I'll go for it, might be a nice thing to have.
    That said, few of my consoles output RF anymore, aside from the Atari Pong console, and that has it's own, ancient B&W set for those duties.


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Computer Games Moderators Posts: 51,849 CMod ✭✭✭✭Retr0gamer


    For anyone that doesn't think M2 are the best I just read that the Secret of Mana 3 translation in the Mana collection is coded into the game at such a low level that hackers have copied the rom from the collection and it works perfectly on a SNES.


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    Retr0gamer wrote: »
    For anyone that doesn't think M2 are the best I just read that the Secret of Mana 3 translation in the Mana collection is coded into the game at such a low level that hackers have copied the rom from the collection and it works perfectly on a SNES.


    Great writeup here on what potentially goes into translating a games text. Earthbound was a complete pig it seems.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,787 ✭✭✭beejee


    Funny timing on that house of the dead midi cabinet, looking at one right now :)


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 35,259 ✭✭✭✭o1s1n
    Master of the Universe


    I didn't even know there was a House of the Dead midi cabinet, it's gorgeous!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,787 ✭✭✭beejee


    Yeah it's a cool cabinet, "don't enter the house alone!". There's a house dead 2 right next to it, standard upright but bloody massive in person, weighs 500 ton


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Computer Games Moderators Posts: 51,849 CMod ✭✭✭✭Retr0gamer


    Great writeup here on what potentially goes into translating a games text. Earthbound was a complete pig it seems.

    Apparently Seiken Densetsu 3 was even worse as the entire script was encrypted in a way to try and squeeze as much memory as possible out of the game. the fan translator said it was an absolute nightmare. Amazing that M2 probably went through that process to translate the game for a retro collection when the reason Square wouldn't release it as a full game for years was that it would cost too much to hack the encryption.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,790 ✭✭✭Jack burton


    beejee wrote: »
    Yeah it's a cool cabinet, "don't enter the house alone!". There's a house dead 2 right next to it, standard upright but bloody massive in person, weighs 500 ton

    Yeah it's a hefty one alright. 25 inch monitor in it I think?

    My favourite of the HODs really. That sit-down cab is probably the best version of it to hit the arcade


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 35,259 ✭✭✭✭o1s1n
    Master of the Universe


    They still had a sit down deluxe HOTD2 in Bray bowl the last time I was there.

    Only bad thing about them really is, with the rear projection screens in them, they're mostly all unplayable at this stage. :(


  • Registered Users Posts: 6,290 ✭✭✭DaveyDave


    What kind of money would you be looking at for a small cab, either HotD 1 or 2? (Can't remember if I've asked this before...)


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,787 ✭✭✭beejee


    DaveyDave wrote: »
    What kind of money would you be looking at for a small cab, either HotD 1 or 2? (Can't remember if I've asked this before...)

    Problem is rapidly becoming not " how much" but "how"!

    Been on the lookout for a hotd cabinet for a couple years with no joy, getting really scarce now. Problem is solved at last. Have yet to see a virtua cop, even rarer, in my experience so far


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,364 ✭✭✭✭Kylo Ren


    Any of ye gents able to point me in the direction of the best cable to get for a PS2 on a modern TV? I have scart but no component input on it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,906 ✭✭✭CosmicSmash


    Kylo Ren wrote: »
    Any of ye gents able to point me in the direction of the best cable to get for a PS2 on a modern TV? I have scart but no component input on it.

    You can get PS2 HDMI adapters now, that'd be your least expensive option.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,906 ✭✭✭CosmicSmash


    It looks like Ikaruga is going to get another physical release. I'm looking forward to this one.

    https://twitter.com/nicalis/status/1139563194387767297


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 35,259 ✭✭✭✭o1s1n
    Master of the Universe


    It looks like Ikaruga is going to get another physical release. I'm looking forward to this one.

    https://twitter.com/nicalis/status/1139563194387767297

    The Switch needs some kind of Tate mode stand, would be a great little console for shmups.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,072 ✭✭✭✭Tom Mann Centuria


    I'm a huge fan of the Spectrum and a big fan of Mr. Do! So this is quite exciting news.

    There's an absolutely brilliant version just been released. The music is fantastic on the 128k version. Not charging for their remake either.

    https://twitter.com/MarkRJones1970/status/1139642477781164037?s=20

    Mark Jones was an artist at Ocean bitd, and hails from the rose of the shires Northamptonshire.

    Oh well, give me an easy life and a peaceful death.



  • Closed Accounts Posts: 15,116 ✭✭✭✭RasTa


    Never seen this before, mate working over at E3.

    Might be hard to fit through the front door.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,703 ✭✭✭sniper_samurai


    RasTa wrote: »
    Never seen this before, mate working over at E3.

    Might be hard to fit through the front door.

    e431c358-c1d7-4cb9-bf53-49ad25509fd9.jpg

    That giant 60" Arcade 1up MSH cab is ridiculous.

    They're releasing a home cab with MSH, X-men: COTA and Punisher.

    They're also doing a 4 player cab for TMNT 1&3.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,906 ✭✭✭CosmicSmash


    o1s1n wrote: »
    The Switch needs some kind of Tate mode stand, would be a great little console for shmups.

    There's always the Flip Grip. I don't have one myself but I heard they're very good.


    maxresdefault.jpg

    https://www.fangamer.com/products/flip-grip


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Computer Games Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 34,633 CMod ✭✭✭✭CiDeRmAn


    o1s1n wrote: »
    The Switch needs some kind of Tate mode stand, would be a great little console for shmups.

    I got one of these a few months ago.
    The Flip Grip for the Switch.
    A nice little holder that lets you play Tate mode games either in the hand or with a card as a stand so you can play with your arcade stick or similar.
    Kickstarter Flip-Grip

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    flipgrip4-fs8_1024x1024.png?v=1531192850


  • Moderators, Computer Games Moderators Posts: 10,496 Mod ✭✭✭✭Andrew76


    o1s1n wrote: »
    The Switch needs some kind of Tate mode stand, would be a great little console for shmups.

    Just hook it up to something you can rotate. ;)

    But yeah it has a decent library of shmups these days, grand little machine for them.


  • Registered Users Posts: 6,290 ✭✭✭DaveyDave


    Might be a long shot here but there was a shooter in the M2 Complete Works documentary that I'm trying to suss out. You control a ship and it's in the style of Space Harrier perspective. I think it's the Mega Drive generation...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,783 ✭✭✭eddhorse


    DaveyDave wrote: »
    Might be a long shot here but there was a shooter in the M2 Complete Works documentary that I'm trying to suss out. You control a ship and it's in the style of Space Harrier perspective. I think it's the Mega Drive generation...

    Do you have a screenshot or a minute of the video?



  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Computer Games Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 34,633 CMod ✭✭✭✭CiDeRmAn


    Think it might be this
    Galaxy Force II, remade for the 3DS by M2 as part of the Sega Ages 3D series, a conversion of the arcade original.


    This is the original Megadrive version


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 35,259 ✭✭✭✭o1s1n
    Master of the Universe


    Cheers lads! Didn't know that flip grip existed, will pick one up.
    Andrew76 wrote: »
    Just hook it up to something you can rotate. ;)

    But yeah it has a decent library of shmups these days, grand little machine for them.

    Attach a Joy con to each side of a rotated PVM? Nothing can go wrong :pac:


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,364 ✭✭✭✭Kylo Ren


    You can get PS2 HDMI adapters now, that'd be your least expensive option.

    Excellent. Do you know of any in particular or does it matter?

    I ordered a cheap 5 quid PS2 scart cable on eBay to test out anyway.


  • Registered Users Posts: 6,290 ✭✭✭DaveyDave


    CiDeRmAn wrote: »
    Think it might be this
    Galaxy Force II, remade for the 3DS by M2 as part of the Sega Ages 3D series, a conversion of the arcade original.


    This is the original Megadrive version

    That's the one! It was late last night so didn't have a chance to scrub through an hours worth of video :D


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Computer Games Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 34,633 CMod ✭✭✭✭CiDeRmAn


    o1s1n wrote: »
    Attach a Joy con to each side of a rotated PVM? Nothing can go wrong :pac:

    Maybe a rotatable monitor,
    https://www.adverts.ie/monitors/hp-compaq-la2205wg-lcd-monitor-22-series/16291248


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,757 ✭✭✭Inviere




  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Computer Games Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 34,633 CMod ✭✭✭✭CiDeRmAn


    Nor retro but certainly arcade,
    Radirgy Swag is out on Switch, from the Japanese eShop.
    Cost me about €16 or so.


    Only thing is the borders on the left and right are a little big, particularly in portable mode, and I don't see a Tate mode, but then I don't read japanese!
    Might take a few screen shots and run it through Google Translate!


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Computer Games Moderators Posts: 51,849 CMod ✭✭✭✭Retr0gamer


    Didn't like Radirgy on the Dreamcast so not sure about that game.


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Computer Games Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 34,633 CMod ✭✭✭✭CiDeRmAn


    Retr0gamer wrote: »
    Didn't like Radirgy on the Dreamcast so not sure about that game.

    I'm hoping it is a good sign, maybe we'll see some more Shmups making their way to the format, hoping for Cave to make an appearance.

    Who knows....

    Maybe Under Defeat... ;)


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Computer Games Moderators Posts: 51,849 CMod ✭✭✭✭Retr0gamer


    Are Cave still around? I remember they were under severe financial pressure and haven't seen any other steam ports of their games in a while.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,997 ✭✭✭Shapey Fiend


    Just looking at their wiki they'd 158 employees in 2012. That seems like an awful lot for such a niche genre.


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  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Computer Games Moderators Posts: 51,849 CMod ✭✭✭✭Retr0gamer


    Just looking at their wiki they'd 158 employees in 2012. That seems like an awful lot for such a niche genre.

    They did a lot of mobile games then and ramped up that division. I think they were also still supporting Shin Megami Tensei: Imagine at that time which was a MMO.


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