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kollegeknight · 13-08-2020 10:34pm

DukeCaboom wrote: »

I presume that's good land out by the sea? Poor cows having him mounting them.

AFaik- that land isn’t bad.

That bull would be buried in my place.

Hard Knocks · 13-08-2020 10:46pm

patsy_mccabe wrote: »

Some weight
2010 Char Bull 1250Kg - €2170

https://www.livestock-live.com/MartMemberAccess/Market/MartCatalogue?Mart=ENNIS&SearchPhysicalRing=2&MartAccount=O%20H135&op=detail&SearchAuctionDayID=0&SearchAuctionID=137038

Lovely looking bull, great length

sonnybill · 13-08-2020 10:57pm

Hard Knocks wrote: »

Lovely looking bull, great length

Great money , he owes them nothing .. prob got 10 seasons out of him

richie123 · 14-08-2020 12:24am

50HX wrote: »

Gortatlea told me that the sellers name should not be displayed due to gdpr

They are not displaying for a different reason tho

A bita messing going on there ???

josephsoap · 14-08-2020 9:45am

Micheal H wrote: »

Poor cows is right. I had to get rid of a bull like that a few years ago because he ended up hurting 3 cows. He killed out at 709kg!

That would be some carcass he would leave after him ....it must surly be at the upper end of what the factory machines would be fit to process ?

Limestone Cowboy · 14-08-2020 1:52pm

A few lads I bred here.

kollegeknight · 14-08-2020 2:01pm

It’s a handy system. Was able show my mother the bullock being sold. She was delighted.

patsy_mccabe · 14-08-2020 2:14pm

Limestone Cowboy wrote: »

A few lads I bred here.

Great stock and great prices. Did they get much meal to finish?

Limestone Cowboy · 14-08-2020 2:18pm

patsy_mccabe wrote: »

Great stock and great prices. Did they get much meal to finish?

I don't know to be honest, the fella that bought them off me would have right good ground and he sold them to a neighbour then... I know who had the biggest touch out of them anyway :rolleyes:

Water John · 14-08-2020 3:24pm

Ah now, they're not QA, sure a factory can't take them. We know the customer insists on QA. Only joking, great stock.

50HX · 14-08-2020 3:38pm

richie123 wrote: »

A bita messing going on there ???

Like all mart i suppose

Its a pity esp for covid, nice to be able to see where cattle come from

patsy_mccabe · 14-08-2020 4:06pm

Gortatlea

https://twitter.com/irishlimousin/status/1294276605817356289/photo/1

richie123 · 15-08-2020 9:31am

50HX wrote: »

Like all mart i suppose

Its a pity esp for covid, nice to be able to see where cattle come from

Sounds like it's not a Mart at all

:):)

Teddy 1234 · 17-08-2020 2:20pm

has anyone heard prices for fresian weanlings Feb or March born calves

mahoney_j · 17-08-2020 2:45pm

Teddy 1234 wrote: »

has anyone heard prices for fresian weanlings Feb or March born calves

Hearing 1.30/1.50’a kg

Siamsa Sessions · 17-08-2020 3:01pm

Teddy 1234 wrote: »

has anyone heard prices for fresian weanlings Feb or March born calves

Half related: does anyone know of any Feb/March born FR or cross-bred heifer calves for sale? I'd be looking for 20-25 of them.

Teddy 1234 · 17-08-2020 6:25pm

mahoney_j wrote: »

Hearing 1.30/1.50’a kg

I'm looking for a few, there doesn't seem any in the marts yet, farmers must be keeping them so far

mahoney_j · 17-08-2020 6:48pm

Teddy 1234 wrote: »

I'm looking for a few, there doesn't seem any in the marts yet, farmers must be keeping them so far

Might know a lad with a bunch .....

Reggie. · 17-08-2020 7:32pm

mahoney_j wrote: »

Might know a lad with a bunch .....

Not "him"

charolais0153 · 17-08-2020 8:59pm

Teddy 1234 wrote: »

I'm looking for a few, there doesn't seem any in the marts yet, farmers must be keeping them so far

Lot of grass around yet. No pressure to sel

Bass Reeves · 17-08-2020 10:04pm

charolais0153 wrote: »

Lot of grass around yet. No pressure to sel

That could change heavy ground getting soft very fast

charolais0153 · 17-08-2020 11:46pm

Bass Reeves wrote: »

That could change heavy ground getting soft very fast

Thank god don't know what that is

but taht will soon change if forecast is to b believed

patsy_mccabe · 25-08-2020 3:20pm

Some good prices there in the Ennis Weanling Show for heavy bulls.

Dozer1 · 25-08-2020 3:40pm

thought prices were strong on all stock, weather improving would help keep it going

richie123 · 25-08-2020 7:32pm

Prices in marts for any types of replacement stock bear no relationship whatsoever to factory price these days.
It's absolute maddness what's going on

patsy_mccabe · 25-08-2020 7:44pm

richie123 wrote: »

Prices in marts for any types of replacement stock bear no relationship whatsoever to factory price these days.
It's absolute maddness what's going on

By replacement stock do you mean breeding females?

Danzy · 25-08-2020 8:46pm

patsy_mccabe wrote: »

By replacement stock do you mean breeding females?

It certainly stands correct for stores.

Glad to see lads getting good prices in the mart but people seem dead certain that cattle are heading north of 4 a kg when bidding.

Though I've come to quickly realize that reality and the mart are not speaking.

richie123 · 25-08-2020 10:28pm

patsy_mccabe wrote: »

By replacement stock do you mean breeding females?

No just replacing what was sold..
I sold a good shot of Angus and Hereford heifers end of June... average around 1150.which wasn't too bad ..trying to buy back in but you'd need to hit close on 700 to buy similar types to sell in a year. margins are just so tight.

T0001 · 26-08-2020 11:46am

Can't understand where the money is coming from around the ring for all types of cattle.

Trying to replace a few store bullocks and 3 weeks now without any luck. Normally always pick up the odd one here and there, but the demand just seems crazy.

patsy_mccabe · 26-08-2020 12:02pm

A lot of older farmers holding off selling, I think due to confusion over covid procedures at marts. All it takes is a slight drop in supply to make all cattle dear. End of year and wet land could see a complete reversal on prices.

Siamsa Sessions · 26-08-2020 12:40pm

patsy_mccabe wrote: »

A lot of older farmers holding off selling, I think due to confusion over covid procedures at marts. All it takes is a slight drop in supply to make all cattle dear. End of year and wet land could see a complete reversal on prices.

Plenty grass up to now has improved confidence too. That's changing though with the rain and grass starting to melt back into the ground. Another week and fellas might start thinking about selling cattle before they have to get out the round feeders.

oxjkqg · 26-08-2020 12:42pm

Friesian bull just under 30 months, 750kg, what should be expected?

Bass Reeves · 26-08-2020 12:45pm

oxjkqg wrote: »

Friesian bull just under 30 months, 750kg, what should be expected?

1.3-1.5/kg

Cavanjack · 26-08-2020 1:59pm

oxjkqg wrote: »

Friesian bull just under 30 months, 750kg, what should be expected?

He should make between 1250 and 1300 in the factory. Work back from there

Bass Reeves · 26-08-2020 6:53pm

Cavanjack wrote: »

He should make between 1250 and 1300 in the factory. Work back from there

I do not think he would make that in the factory if you had him with a bunch of cows he might get in at cow price by himself he will only make 2.6-2.8/kg. He kill about 50-52%. 1050-1150 in the factory I say. If he is really fleshy in the mart he make 1.5/kg looking at the online sales

Cavanjack · 26-08-2020 9:39pm

Bass Reeves wrote: »

I do not think he would make that in the factory if you had him with a bunch of cows he might get in at cow price by himself he will only make 2.6-2.8/kg. He kill about 50-52%. 1050-1150 in the factory I say. If he is really fleshy in the mart he make 1.5/kg looking at the online sales

He has age so should kill at 390kg. An o grade bull is making round 3.40 I think. Should only be cut 10cent for overage if you’ve any relationship with an agent or factory. Leaves him at €1287.
But yeah a one off in factory they’ll probably screw you

Bass Reeves · 26-08-2020 10:19pm

Cavanjack wrote: »

He has age so should kill at 390kg. An o grade bull is making round 3.40 I think. Should only be cut 10cent for overage if you’ve any relationship with an agent or factory. Leaves him at €1287.
But yeah a one off in factory they’ll probably screw you

He over 24 months so would be treated as a stock bull if send in as a single

Welding Rod · 26-08-2020 10:26pm

Covid did a favour to sellers, by forcing the marts to bring in online sales. The seller now has a better chance of getting a better share of the animals true value. Middlemen are being squeezed by the new system, as the online bidder has broken up the wink and a nod codology around the ring.

DukeCaboom · 27-08-2020 6:39am

Cavanjack wrote: »

He has age so should kill at 390kg. An o grade bull is making round 3.40 I think. Should only be cut 10cent for overage if you’ve any relationship with an agent or factory. Leaves him at €1287.
But yeah a one off in factory they’ll probably screw you

€2:40 is the price of him in our spot.

minerleague · 27-08-2020 11:50am

T0001 wrote: »

Can't understand where the money is coming from around the ring for all types of cattle.

Trying to replace a few store bullocks and 3 weeks now without any luck. Normally always pick up the odd one here and there, but the demand just seems crazy.

Yeah and people buying will be the ones complaining next year that there's no money in farming:p

Dozer1 · 27-08-2020 11:53am

well if the prize winners in Gortalea last night leave money to the next man fair play.
1650 & 1600 for 2 BB heifers, thought the CH winner was plain enough

DukeCaboom · 27-08-2020 2:57pm

Dozer1 wrote: »

well if the prize winners in Gortalea last night leave money to the next man fair play.
1650 & 1600 for 2 BB heifers, thought the CH winner was plain enough

Think it finished up near 2 am. Friend had a lovely roan lm heifer. March 20 290kg €1200.

patsy_mccabe · 27-08-2020 3:15pm

Watching heavy older bulls selling there in Ennis. All bought by on-line bidders. One dealer at ring side opened a 2014 char bull weighing 1040kgs at 1100. Next bid on-line came in at 1600:D He sold eventually on-line at €1820.
The dealers will be cutting internet cables before the year is over.

Dunedin · 27-08-2020 4:13pm

Anyone see any prices for good quality springers lately. Say limo or Simmental and due to calve in next few months.

50HX · 27-08-2020 6:40pm

patsy_mccabe wrote: »

Watching heavy older bulls selling there in Ennis. All bought by on-line bidders. One dealer at ring side opened a 2014 char bull weighing 1040kgs at 1100. Next bid on-line came in at 1600:D He sold eventually on-line at €1820.
The dealers will be cutting internet cables before the year is over.

Long may it last....long enough dealers were bullying their way ringside, nude....wink.....finger waving etc

Hope online stays, found it v handy for selling this year

Cavanjack · 27-08-2020 7:20pm

50HX wrote: »

Long may it last....long enough dealers were bullying their way ringside, nude....wink.....finger waving etc

Hope online stays, found it v handy for selling this year

Sooner it goes the better. Can’t get any value round the ring at all

Grueller · 27-08-2020 7:52pm

50HX wrote: »

Long may it last....long enough dealers were bullying their way ringside, nude....wink.....finger waving etc

Hope online stays, found it v handy for selling this year

Our local auctioneer is a hoor to put pressure on you to sell in the sellers box. I have found online great that you can watch them sold from home and have a few moments to think before getting a phone call. It also allows you to get actual work done rather than arsing around a mart all day.

Bass Reeves · 27-08-2020 9:38pm

Bollix to it.

Online auctions have the ability to really change the game. However remember it is not the fitest, fastest or strongest that survive but rather those that adapt best.
It will definitely put the lads hanging around the ring for 3-4 marts a weeks under pressure. However older buyers may struggle. I did 2-3 marts online last week. Now cattle at present are strongly priced compared to factory price. Not but sellers need every penny.
One interesting thing is the market for finished cattle. Now demand is strong but if smaller finisher's start heading to the marts to sell processor's may find it hard to control prices. I could be quoting 3.6 of a base but paying 3.7 around the ring to fill contracts. But if there is a surplus of beef will it drive prices down.

However middle men will struggle to make a living. Johnny buying 10-12 cattle can now buy them over a few weeks and collect them that evening or early the following morning. He will not need to pay 15-20/head to Tom the tangler to drop the 12 cattle off to him. As well Ton the tangler will no longer have the ability to drop 2-3 that he overbid on to stop a lad up the back buying on Johnny. Friday and Saturday marts may be popular on line but value may be elsewhere. As well you can try to buy at any Martin a 60-100 Km radius.

However it's the ability to adapt. A PC on a fiber connection is way better than a mobile connection

ruwithme · 27-08-2020 9:55pm

What's the story with lads walking around marts with phones whilst the sale is on &their viewing the online sale on phone and them in the same ring??????

These fellas are usually always moving around and not hiding this.

GNWoodd · 27-08-2020 10:11pm

patsy_mccabe wrote: »

Watching heavy older bulls selling there in Ennis. All bought by on-line bidders. One dealer at ring side opened a 2014 char bull weighing 1040kgs at 1100. Next bid on-line came in at 1600:D He sold eventually on-line at €1820.
The dealers will be cutting internet cables before the year is over.

Why would any auctioneer accept a bid that was that low ?

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