MotoGP, Superbikes and Road Racing 2021

Infoanon · 10-08-2020 8:29pm

tommyboy26 wrote: »

he seems to do very well if he isnt put off by another rider but the second someone goes under him its like he is afraid to snap back
are LCR keeping cal?
why pol and not binder?
great to see a new track being introduced especially this year. hopefully it is resurfaced properly

2020 plan was Alex at LCR
2021 Alex at LCR - Cal probably at Aprilla , possibly Ducati

Why Pol ? , good question - I think Brad would have won no matter what yesterday but Pol now has to be out to avenge the wrong (in his eyes) of Brad getting KTMs first win after all this was a team build around Pol.
Pol arguably should have started second on the grid yesterday and with testing today they should be in good shape for Austria.

tommyboy26 · 11-08-2020 11:56am

CJhaughey wrote: »

I can't see Portimao needing to be resurfaced.
It looked fine yesterday with the Superbikes so I would think the GP bikes would be ok on it.
I really can't see any resurfacing works happening this year, no punters means a lot of lost revenue to tracks.

could of swore i heard suzi perry say it was part of the deal with dorna to sign to come there

Infoanon wrote: »

2020 plan was Alex at LCR
2021 Alex at LCR - Cal probably at Aprilla , possibly Ducati

Why Pol ? , good question - I think Brad would have won no matter what yesterday but Pol now has to be out to avenge the wrong (in his eyes) of Brad getting KTMs first win after all this was a team build around Pol.
Pol arguably should have started second on the grid yesterday and with testing today they should be in good shape for Austria.

Yea i agree with you but I think the win for brad will be a great boost for his confidence and he will want to show that he is the right person to bring ktm wins

Scotty # · 15-08-2020 11:40am

Dovi 100% leaving Ducati at the end of the season. Says he's not in negotiations with anyone else.

tommyboy26 · 15-08-2020 12:01pm

Scotty # wrote: »

Dovi 100% leaving Ducati at the end of the season. Says he's not in negotiations with anyone else.

only open factory seat is aprilla and that is up in the air until october until innonne has his appeal

Infoanon · 15-08-2020 12:08pm

Very disappointed for Dovi - the relationship with Ducati has Neen over for a while.

Jorge or Pecco lined up to replace him -:got to think it's Jorge otherwise you would hold on to your best rider Dovi - runner up 3 times in a row

tommyboy26 · 15-08-2020 12:59pm

Infoanon wrote: »

Very disappointed by Dovi - the relationship with Ducati has Neen over for a while.

Jorge or Pecco lined up to replace him -:got to think it's Jorge otherwise you would hold on to your best rider Dovi - runner up 3 times in a row

Why disappointed with dovi? I am very disappointed with ducati for the reason you outlined. Runner up 3 times devoted 8 years to them even after they spent a small fortune on lorenzo and he left them high and dry for honda.

Very poor rider management by Ducati imo.

Infoanon · 15-08-2020 1:13pm

tommyboy26 wrote: »

Why disappointed with dovi? I am very disappointed with ducati for the reason you outlined. Runner up 3 times devoted 8 years to them even after they spent a small fortune on lorenzo and he left them high and dry for honda.

Very poor rider management by Ducati imo.

Typo now corrected - disappointed for Dovi

As RossI. Alluded to last week rider management is not Ducatis strong point - Stoner world champion and the only person who could ride the bike left deflated by their antics.
Jorge - they ignored his calls for changes to the bike ,Ducati where very vocal in their dissapointment with Lorenzo and decide to let him go - make the adjustment he wanted and he wins 3 races.
For the record Jorge didn't leave Ducati high and dry - they informed him that his contract would not be renewed.
Dovi - who developed a winless team into potential champions is then abandoned because it's felt he is not capable of being world champion.
Petrucci is also gone - so Ducati have dropped both of their factory riders, Fabio and Maverick both turned down offers so now they are left with Miller who is struggling and the exciting talent that is Bagnia.
What they no longer have is the rider capable of beating Marc in head to heads.

Scotty # · 15-08-2020 1:50pm

Can't see Jorge going back or Ducati even wanting him. I'd love to see Zarco get the seat.

Dovi is a huge loss for Ducati but it seems he wanted more €€€ than they were willing to give.

Infoanon · 15-08-2020 3:17pm

Scotty # wrote: »

Can't see Jorge going back or Ducati even wanting him. I'd love to see Zarco get the seat.

Dovi is a huge loss for Ducati but it seems he wanted more €€€ than they were willing to give.

Ducati realised that they made their decision about Jorge too early in '18 and Jorge had that little bit extra that makes him champion that they believe Dovi is missing.
There has always been a what if Jorge had won one race earlier than Mugello and a believe that Jorge would have challenged for the title in '19 on a Ducati.

There is definitely a pro Lorenzo camp in Ducati but Ciabetti was on BT a few minutes ago saying that they are looking at Johan or Pecco. That could see MarinI going to Avintia.
However others in Ducati have said (yesterday ) that it was between Dovi,Jorge and Bagnia.

Casey Stoner tweeted Ducati cannot afford to lose Dovi - it's the rider not wind tunnels that wins races... .

Lots of red shirts down in the Avintia garage these days btw

h3000 · 16-08-2020 11:33am

That crash ****. All riders reported conscious. Let’s hope all will be okay. Syahrin took a big one.

Infoanon · 16-08-2020 11:34am

h3000 wrote: »

That crash ****. All riders reported conscious. Let’s hope all will be okay. Syarin took a big one.

So relieved to see all riders concious - horrible crash

Scotty # · 16-08-2020 11:35am

h3000 wrote: »

That crash ****. All riders reported conscious. Let’s hope all will be okay. Syarin took a big one.

Yea it was a big one. Fingers crossed all OK.

h3000 · 16-08-2020 1:14pm

Holy ****ing hell.

4Ad · 16-08-2020 1:17pm

Rossi was so lucky there, the other bike went over his head..jaysus.

Fingers crossed...

Scotty # · 16-08-2020 1:19pm

Rossi and Vinales very very lucky!! That could have very easily been a fatal accident.

Weren't some of the riders expressing safety concerns about here the other day?

4Ad · 16-08-2020 1:21pm

Rossi is def in shock...
Good to see Morbidelli walking away...

Scotty # · 16-08-2020 1:22pm

Infoanon · 16-08-2020 1:29pm

Scotty # wrote: »

Rossi and Vinales very very lucky!! That could have very easily been a fatal accident.

Weren't some of the riders expressing safety concerns about here the other day?

If they raced in wet conditions.

scary crash - thank goodness everyone is ok

funkey_monkey · 16-08-2020 2:10pm

Who were the two managers fighting in the pit?
Keith Heuwen mentioned it in bt commentary.

Beltby · 16-08-2020 2:26pm

I'd like to hear who Pol Espargaro is going to blame for this one.

h3000 · 16-08-2020 2:36pm

I know this might sound a bit crazy but I don’t think one could rule Marc Marquez out of the championship fight just yet. It’s a crazy season so far.

Rossi IRL · 16-08-2020 3:14pm

Nearly got sick watching the replay of the crash

Infoanon · 16-08-2020 3:22pm

Rossi IRL wrote: »

Nearly got sick watching the replay of the crash

That's how I felt after the Moto 2 crash.

Miller has brought up safety now in his post race interview.

Rossi was white after that.

Thank goodness all ok.

Pol - same mistake as last week - and you could see it happening with so much pent up annoyance after the red flag.

Maverick.....lucky in the crash but also in getting points - his first lap was a horror show.

Didn't hear Keith Huewen mentioning a fight between managers - know he is keen on a Petrucci / Espagaro (A) pinch up !

h3000 · 16-08-2020 3:31pm

My second slightly mad idea of the day...... would an incident like that slow Vale in signing up for a new contract? I mean that with the greatest respect. I’m the biggest Vale fan. He obviously doesn’t do it or need it for the money and does it for the love of racing bikes but something like that would scare anyone.

EB_2013 · 16-08-2020 4:10pm

h3000 wrote: »

I know this might sound a bit crazy but I don’t think one could rule Marc Marquez out of the championship fight just yet. It’s a crazy season so far.

I agree, he is due back for Misano so he could have 9 races left and he'll really be determined to beat everyone. He could do it. Fabio and Maverick haven't taken advantage enough since round 1.

EB_2013 · 16-08-2020 4:15pm

h3000 wrote: »

That crash ****. All riders reported conscious. Let’s hope all will be okay. Syahrin took a big one.

There's footage of him in hospital giving the thumbs up so thank god hes okay. Turn number 1 is so dangerous there. And after the Morbidelli/Zarco crash if there are any more big crashes next weekend I could see it been taken off the calendar. Could have easily have had a fatality there today.

legrand · 16-08-2020 5:44pm

Rossie did not dodge a bullet,he dodged two. What are the freakin' odds of that? Milliseconds away from certain fatality or serious injury at best.

XsApollo · 16-08-2020 6:18pm

I was glad when that race was over.
Horrible sequence of corners from turn 1 through 3, probably a better track run backwards.

Just watching again looks like Rossi missed the entry to the turn, if he was on the line he was getting walloped.

h3000 · 16-08-2020 6:52pm

Not a happy camper
https://twitter.com/btsportmotogp/status/1295054668477992960

h3000 · 16-08-2020 7:17pm

https://www.instagram.com/p/CD9THr2iDBc

ErnestBorgnine · 16-08-2020 10:17pm

EB_2013 wrote: »

I agree, he is due back for Misano so he could have 9 races left and he'll really be determined to beat everyone. He could do it. Fabio and Maverick haven't taken advantage enough since round 1.

And with the exception of Portimao, which wasn't on the calendar, Marquez won at all the remaining tracks last year.

He'll have to be on it from the moment he comes back and not bin it for the rest of the season probably, but you can't rule him out yet.

h3000 · 17-08-2020 10:12am

Rossi’s take on it
https://twitter.com/MotoGP/status/1295285129573814272

Scotty # · 17-08-2020 11:17am

I wonder are Ducati kicking themselves...again?

Frank Bullitt · 17-08-2020 5:02pm

My buddy text me "DID YOU SEE THAT CRASH?", thinking to myself that it can't have been that bad...oh was I wrong.

Insane how no one was seriously injured.

4Ad · 17-08-2020 8:15pm

Gintonious wrote: »

My buddy text me "DID YOU SEE THAT CRASH?", thinking to myself that it can't have been that bad...oh was I wrong.

Insane how no one was seriously injured.

Did you see the crash in the moto2 race ??
I thought the rider was dead...terrifying also...

h3000 · 17-08-2020 8:35pm

Scotty # wrote: »

I wonder are Ducati kicking themselves...again?

Ducati are far too arrogant for that.

Frank Bullitt · 17-08-2020 9:39pm

4Ad wrote: »

Did you see the crash in the moto2 race ??
I thought the rider was dead...terrifying also...

Insane that no one (in any of the races), was seriously hurt, pure miracle.

Infoanon · 17-08-2020 10:04pm

h3000 wrote: »

Ducati are far too arrogant for that.

The fake celebrations after the win was cringeworthy - where to now for Dovi and Ducati ?,

Can't see him going to Aprilla or WSBK

tommyboy26 · 17-08-2020 10:25pm

Beltby wrote: »

I'd like to hear who Pol Espargaro is going to blame for this one.

was i the only one who though the way pol acted all weekend was very childish. even refusing to accept an apology from zarco a few days after they had what was clearly a racing incident

h3000 wrote: »

I know this might sound a bit crazy but I don’t think one could rule Marc Marquez out of the championship fight just yet. It’s a crazy season so far.

is it certain he will be back for misano and if so how will he manage back on the bike with that arm

h3000 wrote: »

Ducati are far too arrogant for that.

they are but lets just say dovi wins one or two more races or god forbid he wins a championship. what are the chance they throw a blank cheque at him to stay. with the possibility of no other ride in the paddock would dovi stay?

Grim. · 17-08-2020 10:26pm

Crazy to think that Dovi has taken 28% of Ducati's premier class wins

Infoanon · 17-08-2020 11:43pm

Grim. wrote: »

Crazy to think that Dovi has taken 28% of Ducati's premier class wins

Dovi is under rated probably due to his time at Honda , Dovi effectly rebuild Ducati from winless to dominance on numerous circuits something that not even Rossi could manage.

It's as scary to think that before 2016 Dovi had only one race win and that was in a very unusual race in wet conditions that Edwards should have won

Scotty # · 18-08-2020 10:36pm

tommyboy26 wrote: »

what are the chance they throw a blank cheque at him to stay.

I don't think it's actually about the money, apparently he lives quite a frugal lifestyle, it's more about him not being made an ejit of. Dovi took a paycut a few years ago and then Ducati signed Lorenzo for million more than Dovi was on. Dovi way out performed Lorenzo and finished runner up three years on the trot.

According to Simon Peterson, he's asked for €X and they've offered him just half. The rumour is he wanted €10M. If he accepted the €5M, it would be less than his current contract.

Dovi is 34 so this is most likely his last contract. Understandably, as runner up the last 3 years, and looking at Marc just after signing a 4 year deal for €100M, he feels he's worth more than what's being offered. But I think the final nail in the coffin was being told by Ducati that they wouldn't make any decision til after Austria.

He could just be calling their bluff though.

Scotty # · 21-08-2020 10:15am

Zarco to start from the pits on Sunday as a penalty for the incident last week.

Miller fastest this morning.

Infoanon · 21-08-2020 10:37am

Scotty # wrote: »

Zarco to start from the pits on Sunday as a penalty for the incident last week.

Miller fastest this morning.

Ridiculous penalty - less than a second covers the grid this morning !

Emmersonn · 21-08-2020 11:29am

Infoanon wrote: »

Ridiculous penalty - less than a second covers the grid this morning !

It most certainly is when you consider previous "indiscretions" by wonderboy Marquez which have gone without penalty.

Scotty # · 21-08-2020 12:16pm

Infoanon wrote: »

Ridiculous penalty...

Talk of him not being fit to race anyway after his wrist surgery so he may just start from the pits and retire after one lap. That'll be his penalty served.

h3000 · 22-08-2020 12:01pm

There must be a huge amount of oil on the track now.

https://twitter.com/MotoGP/status/1297125592781991937

https://twitter.com/MotoGP/status/1297126370041004033

Infoanon · 22-08-2020 12:40pm

h3000 wrote: »

There must be a huge amount of oil on the track now.

https://twitter.com/MotoGP/status/1297125592781991937

https://twitter.com/MotoGP/status/1297126370041004033

It was pouring out of Masia bike - Moto GP quali looking crucial for tomorrows race

Infoanon · 22-08-2020 2:07pm

Bagnia and Zarco signed for 2021 to Ducati ,Tito already confirmed.
Which teams / bikes to be confirmed at Misano.

Jorge Martin is believed to have signed with Ducati earlier in the year.

Beltby · 22-08-2020 2:24pm

Zarco has bonded well with the Ducati. Busted wrist and he goes 3rd, just because he could. Starting from the pitlane he didn't even have to take part in qualifying at all.

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