Loaded sub machine gun found on street.

SEPT 23 1989 · 11-07-2018 6:23pm

Where was this monsterous ramp that nearly upended the car causing the boot to open on a brand new car

Watched the news and didn't see one

corks finest · 11-07-2018 6:24pm

Dunno,,,,,, might come in handy,crows,cats at night,Kerrymen in pairc UI chaoimh

corks finest · 11-07-2018 6:24pm

Dunno,,,,,, might come in handy,crows,cats at night,Kerrymen in pairc UI chaoimh

corks finest · 11-07-2018 6:24pm

Dunno,,,,,, might come in handy,crows,cats at night,Kerrymen in pairc UI chaoimh

arybvtcw0eolkf · 11-07-2018 6:27pm

SEPT 23 1989 wrote: »

Where was this monsterous ramp that nearly upended the car causing the boot to open on a brand new car

Watched the news and didn't see one

I was thinking the same thing watching the news, and I'd pass through there a number of times a week. There's not even speed ramps in the area.

mattser · 11-07-2018 6:30pm

doolox wrote: »

These are the creatures who can have you off the road on 3 captures for speeding even if you are 5 kph above the speed limit and have you not working for three months and lose all your customer base and be dependant on social welfare for the rest of your life.

These creatures should be held to better standards than they hold the general motoring public to. How many times have these arrogant, smug instruments of State domination held me and people like me to account for Tax, NCT, Licences, tyres, lights and countless other desiderata for driving at mostly remedial and moronically slow speeds on roads in this country while members of this force have driven like test pilots with no lights or other warning, safe in the knowledge that they can avoid prosecution by waving a badge, being members of a privileged club of people immune from prosecution for traffic violations etc.

Sheep like you and me must travel around like stunted mullets while these creatures can swan about at any speed they like. The carelessness of losing a gun should lead to dismissal at least. I had to laugh at the Army guy on Joe Duffys show arguing with and berating the standards of training he reckoned were prevalent in the AGS. There is no love lost between the Army and Gardai in Ireland.

Creatures ??.ðŸ€€ jeepers you're an angry boy. In fairness, the ex garda fairly stuffed the army lad about the technicalities of using a firearm.

Mr. CooL ICE · 11-07-2018 6:31pm

Mod: Rereg troll banned and posts deleted, in case anybody is wondering what happened.

Please do us a favour and don't respond to anybody with a single digit post count that was posting exactly like that last guy.

arybvtcw0eolkf · 11-07-2018 6:33pm

Dole Scrounging Vegan Crossfitter wrote: »

Mod: Rereg troll banned and posts deleted, in case anybody is wondering what happened.

Please do us a favour and don't respond to anybody with a single digit post count that was posting exactly like that last guy.

Cheers. I was just about to report a few strange PM's from the guy.

arybvtcw0eolkf · 11-07-2018 6:35pm

Chewbacca wrote: »

What have the Israeli's got to do with this?

They're under cover here don't ya know, but its easy to catch them. You just get them to whip out their willies lol

corner of hells · 11-07-2018 6:36pm

Rylee Echoing Flu wrote: »

I've no idea tbh.

I seem to recall a guard being shot by another member in a botched bank robbery. Not sure if he died, a Google search might work.

There was a recruit injured by another in training a few years back. From member the recruit was shooting blanks but had not put the Blank Firing Attachment onto the muzzle of his rifle.

I don't recall any soldiers being shot by friendly fire with live ball.

He did die , there's a GAA club named after in Meath.

There's was a also a Garda injured when managed to shot himself in an accident at a firing range.

wexie · 11-07-2018 6:36pm

Rylee Echoing Flu wrote: »

Cheers. I was just about to report a few strange PM's from the guy.

FWIW the lady he was talking about seems to be some c rate actress?
Or so google seems to think

LionelNashe · 11-07-2018 6:41pm

Rylee Echoing Flu wrote: »

I've no idea tbh.

I seem to recall a guard being shot by another member in a botched bank robbery. Not sure if he died, a Google search might work.

There was a recruit injured by another in training a few years back. From member the recruit was shooting blanks but had not put the Blank Firing Attachment onto the muzzle of his rifle.

I don't recall any soldiers being shot by friendly fire with live ball.

There was that Irish soldier who was accidentally shot dead by his colleague in East Timor. Also, I heard when I was a kid, don't know if it's true, that a soldier at Portlaoise prison shot another one because he wouldn't give him a sweet.

arybvtcw0eolkf · 11-07-2018 6:43pm

LionelNashe wrote: »

There was that Irish soldier who was accidentally shot dead by his colleague in East Timor.

You're right, an accident while out on patrol.

Glebee · 11-07-2018 6:48pm

Simple answer is he left the bag on the roof of the car and drove off. Never coped when the bag slid off the roof so never stopped. Only noticed when he got where he was going too. Case solved, no need to call Colombo....

arybvtcw0eolkf · 11-07-2018 6:49pm

Glebee wrote: »

Simple answer is he left the bag on the roof of the car and drove off. Never coped when the bag slid off the roof so never stopped. Only noticed when he got where he was going too. Case solved, no need to call Colombo....

Most likely how it happened, but there's a guard on duty at the gate there who never noticed anything lol

doolox · 11-07-2018 6:59pm

just like any taxi driver, truck driver or bus driver who makes a mistake as big as this one, but no this won't happen because the other members will say nothing and do nothing.

The civilian gobdaws are left taking the can for any mistake they make of this gravity while their "betters" get away with it.

All the "pillars of society" in this country have been examined and found wanting, church, health care, childcare, education, finance and administration of justice.

Now our cops throw guns out the window.

And are likely to get away with it.

Thank God one of the Kinahans or Huthches did not get their dirty hands on the gun.

I know personally many good members of AGS and they will be as equally annoyed by this travesty. It makes their job and credibility harder. The ****er who allowed this to happen should go.

Nekarsulm · 11-07-2018 7:53pm

Rylee Echoing Flu wrote: »

I've no idea tbh.

I seem to recall a guard being shot by another member in a botched bank robbery. Not sure if he died, a Google search might work.

There was a recruit injured by another in training a few years back. From member the recruit was shooting blanks but had not put the Blank Firing Attachment onto the muzzle of his rifle.

I don't recall any soldiers being shot by friendly fire with live ball.

That was the Abbeyleix bank robbery. Sergeant John Eiffe was shot dead and another Guard injured. No shots were fired by the robbers.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.independent.ie/opinion/analysis/the-tragic-day-a-young-garda-died-26245908.html

Ipso · 11-07-2018 8:47pm

Glebee wrote: »

Simple answer is he left the bag on the roof of the car and drove off. Never coped when the bag slid off the roof so never stopped. Only noticed when he got where he was going too. Case solved, no need to call Colombo....

One more thing.

alaimacerc · 11-07-2018 11:37pm

doolox wrote: »

just like any taxi driver, truck driver or bus driver who makes a mistake as big as this one, but no this won't happen because the other members will say nothing and do nothing.

Line of Duty: Ireland didn't make it past the elevator pitch stage.

alaimacerc · 11-07-2018 11:39pm

Glebee wrote: »

Simple answer is he left the bag on the roof of the car and drove off. Never coped when the bag slid off the roof so never stopped. Only noticed when he got where he was going too. Case solved, no need to call Colombo....

AGS urgently seek any CCTV footage of the incident, so that they can accidentally lose it.

alaimacerc · 11-07-2018 11:58pm

TheDoc wrote: »

Ridiculous reaction.

An investigation taking place is the proper procedure to see what happened and if there was any negligence.

If the officer didn't close the boot properly, didn't secure the bag properly (bit made they are using bags btw, the other armed unit have boot lock boxes), was actually meant to use a lockbox but used a bag, or performed any act of negligence then fair enough. There should be sanctions, in accordance with the outlined disciplinary procedures.

However if there transpires to be a fault with the boot, the locking mechanism, the car, or wasn't spotted during servicing or spot checks, then its hardly the officers fault.

See, this is why satire is so hard these days. That's pretty much what I said in parody of what the GRA will be out saying shortly.

If fully automatic weapons can be flying out of car boots due to a dodgy catch, then sure, let's not fire the guard who signed out the weapon. I'll settle for the idiot that designed such a system, constantly teetering one single lock away from a critical safety failure. And the dosser that was supposed to be servicing the vehicle, when the weapons are seemingly like jack-in-the-boxes when stashed back there.

JupiterKid · 12-07-2018 5:11am

Hopefully the new Commissioner will put an end to this sort of believable incompetence among the ranks of AGS.

The Gardai need sweeping and radical change from the top all the way down. Currently they are unfit for purpose for a 21st century Ireland. Keystone cops come to mind here...

alaimacerc · 12-07-2018 5:32am

JupiterKid wrote: »

Hopefully the new Commissioner will put an end to this sort of believable incompetence among the ranks of AGS.

Just the occasional incompetent being held to account for it, would be a comfort.

Feisar · 12-07-2018 10:00am

JupiterKid wrote: »

Hopefully the new Commissioner will put an end to this sort of believable incompetence among the ranks of AGS.

The Gardai need sweeping and radical change from the top all the way down. Currently they are unfit for purpose for a 21st century Ireland. Keystone cops come to mind here...

Who trained the person that done this though? AGS trained the person and sent them on their way with a gun. The State put the Gardaí in place and we put the State in place, so who ultimately is at fault? Typical ballygobackwards Ireland. I firmly believe you get what you deserve. These people aren't pulled from a special group from the Aran Islands, they are a cross section of our society.

BattleCorp · 12-07-2018 10:00am

LionelNashe wrote: »

. Also, I heard when I was a kid, don't know if it's true, that a soldier at Portlaoise prison shot another one because he wouldn't give him a sweet.

You are pretty close.

One soldier was throwing sweets to another soldier and kept throwing them short, thus making the guy reach to catch the sweets. There was a bit of an argument between the two of them. That part is 100% true but what happened after that is debatable, apart from one of the army guys getting shot and killed.

Donald Trump · 12-07-2018 10:22am

Rylee Echoing Flu wrote: »

SEPT 23 1989 wrote: »

Where was this monsterous ramp that nearly upended the car causing the boot to open on a brand new car

Watched the news and didn't see one

I was thinking the same thing watching the news, and I'd pass through there a number of times a week. There's not even speed ramps in the area.

Happened around Harcourt Terrace?
Maybe they just drove over some fat bird who was after stumbling out of Coppers down the road.

TheShow · 12-07-2018 10:36am

Left in a bag on the top of the car which they forgot about an drove off.

The story on the news is hokem.

Hitman3000 · 12-07-2018 10:38am

TheShow wrote:

Left in a bag on the top of the car which they forgot about an drove off.

Wonder who thought up the b.s. story? Even by Garda standards it was sub par.

TheShow · 12-07-2018 11:00am

Hitman3000 wrote: »

Wonder who thought up the b.s. story? Even by Garda standards it was sub par.

Gardai Press officer or some other spin merchant I'd imagine.

Hitman3000 · 12-07-2018 11:06am

TheShow wrote:

Gardai Press officer or some other spin merchant I'd imagine.

It's amazing though people in positions of authority or high office blatantly lie, but it's acceptable.

TheShow · 12-07-2018 11:21am

Hitman3000 wrote: »

It's amazing though people in positions of authority or high office blatantly lie, but it's acceptable.

sure why take the blame when you can pass the book!

archer22 · 12-07-2018 11:36am

Hitman3000 wrote: »

It's amazing though people in positions of authority or high office blatantly lie, but it's acceptable.

And that's the reason they do...never any consequences, everything to gain and nothing to lose by it.

opfleet · 12-07-2018 5:36pm

Claw Hammer wrote: »

if there is a better "explanation" we would have heard by now. In my view the big problem is that the guards start training with weapons far too late in their careers. Regard is not transferred to any kind of armed work until he has been at least 4 years in the job. By the time they get to weapons training, they have lost all ability to be disciplined. They simply do not have the right instincts and attitude to weapons.

Who exactly is "they". Just because this one ERU member made a blunder, that meant all 100 members of the ERU have a bad attitude? For your information the ERU are one of the most highly trained in Europe. The Norwegian ERU received training from the Garda ERU following the 2011 attacks. They have had many successful operations most notably in 2009 when an armed raider in Lucan was infiltrated and in 2005 when two armed raiders in Lusk were infiltrated. They occasionally train along with the SAS and Irish Rangers Wing. To get into the ERU takes a rare breed. It has a 95% selection failure rate...

alaimacerc · 12-07-2018 5:41pm

TheShow wrote: »

Gardai Press officer or some other spin merchant I'd imagine.

Breath-test-chemicals Ali, perhaps?

https://www.joe.ie/news/interview-garda-breath-test-scandal-601321

Donald Trump · 12-07-2018 5:47pm

TheShow wrote: »

sure why take the blame when you can pass the book!

*buck*

Rows Grower · 12-07-2018 5:48pm

opfleet wrote: »

Who exactly is "they". Just because this one ERU member made a blunder, that meant all 100 members of the ERU have a bad attitude? For your information the ERU are one of the most highly trained in Europe. The Norwegian ERU received training from the Garda ERU following the 2011 attacks. They have had many successful operations most notably in 2009 when an armed raider in Lucan was infiltrated and in 2005 when two armed raiders in Lusk were infiltrated. They occasionally train along with the SAS and Irish Rangers Wing. To get into the ERU takes a rare breed. It has a 95% selection failure rate...

I think you need to check what the word "infiltrated" means.

opfleet · 12-07-2018 5:53pm

Rows Grower wrote: »

I think you need to check what the word "infiltrated" means.

attacked...

Are Am Eye · 12-07-2018 5:55pm

opfleet wrote: »

Who exactly is "they". Just because this one ERU member

They exactly is the several Garda who were in the car who gathered around and came up with a story ("right lads, we'll say we were driving over a ramp, ok, and then ....") and will subsequently commit this story to official reports and sworn evidence etc.

archer22 · 12-07-2018 5:58pm

opfleet wrote: »

Who exactly is "they". Just because this one ERU member made a blunder, that meant all 100 members of the ERU have a bad attitude? For your information the ERU are one of the most highly trained in Europe. The Norwegian ERU received training from the Garda ERU following the 2011 attacks. They have had many successful operations most notably in 2009 when an armed raider in Lucan was infiltrated and in 2005 when two armed raiders in Lusk were infiltrated. They occasionally train along with the SAS and Irish Rangers Wing. To get into the ERU takes a rare breed. It has a 95% selection failure rate...

I think somebody just woke up after being snoozing out in Sun...nice dream though :pac:

Rows Grower · 12-07-2018 6:22pm

opfleet wrote: »

attacked...

Double check that.

Hammer89 · 12-07-2018 6:23pm

Ten of Swords wrote: »

I remembered a similar thing happening in the UK a few years ago. One of Tony Blair's bodyguards left a Glock pistol in the toilets at Starbucks and didn't realise it for over an hour, when she realised and returned to look for it someone had taken it.

That explains it so.

Nekarsulm · 12-07-2018 6:29pm

archer22 wrote: »

And that's the reason they do...never any consequences, everything to gain and nothing to lose by it.

Not always the case.
Remember when two armed Gardaí on duty outside the American Embassy slipped off for a few pints, got scuttered and started to argue in a bar?
They proceeded to beat the crap out of each other over whose round it was.
Seperated, they went back to the Embassey gates, where they continued to fight.
One Garda handed his gun to a uniformed member of the force, got into his car and drove off drunk.

The two lads were kicked out of the Force, as you would expect.

corner of hells · 12-07-2018 6:31pm

Hammer89 wrote: »

That explains it so.

So a woman can't do the job ?

alaimacerc · 12-07-2018 6:33pm

corner of hells wrote: »

So a woman can't do the job ?

Hammer89 forgot he wasn't posting on PROC. Or from 1989, maybe.

Hammer89 · 12-07-2018 6:36pm

alaimacerc wrote: »

Hammer89 forgot he wasn't posting on PROC. Or from 1989, maybe.

You forgot we're both posting on AH and jokes about women misplacing their guns isn't all that serious.

Atoms for Peace · 12-07-2018 7:11pm

"Say hello to my little friend"

RustyNut · 12-07-2018 7:29pm

Atoms for Peace wrote: »

"Say hello to my little friend"

Say bye bye to my little friend more like.

alaimacerc · 12-07-2018 7:54pm

Hammer89 wrote: »

You forgot we're both posting on AH and jokes about women misplacing their guns isn't all that serious.

With an actual joke being in the post?

Ten of Swords · 25-05-2019 2:32am

GSOC recommend no disciplinary sanctions for the 2 detectives. I wonder if they'd be so benevolent if the gun had not been recovered.

https://m.independent.ie/irish-news/two-gardai-who-lost-submachine-gun-on-dublin-street-should-not-face-sanctions-gsoc-38146575.html

Beta Ray Bill · 26-05-2019 7:55am

Ten of Swords wrote: »

GSOC recommend no disciplinary sanctions for the 2 detectives. I wonder if they'd be so benevolent if the gun had not been recovered.

https://m.independent.ie/irish-news/two-gardai-who-lost-submachine-gun-on-dublin-street-should-not-face-sanctions-gsoc-38146575.html

In fairness this is a known issue with the Audi's
The woman who walked away with the bag "wanted the story"

The Garda station was right there, she didn't need to walk away with it.
There is a Garda manning the gate of the Station on Harcourt St all the time.

There was absolutely no reason to walk away with it.

Loaded sub machine gun found on street.

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