Loaded sub machine gun found on street.

Rows Grower

Found in north inner city Dublin.

A member of the public handed it into a Garda Station.

It was a Garda gun.

Ooops.

Poor Uncle Tom

It was just left there as a test........ public passed....

Beta Ray Bill

Read this, this morning.

What the f**k like!

https://www.breakingnews.ie/ireland/loaded-submachine-gun-belonging-to-gardai-found-on-the-street-854385.html

Loaded submachine gun belonging to Gardaí found on the street

Gardaí are investigating how a loaded submachine gun belonging to one of their units came to be found in the street.

It was handed into Store Street Garda Station in Dublin's north inner city by a member of the public yesterday.

It is understood to belong to the armed garda unit that is policing the Hutch-Kinahan gangland feud.

Gardaí say a senior officer "has been appointed to examine all the circumstances" surrounding the discovery.

Detectives are investigating whether it fell from a moving Garda vehicle.

There is probably more going on here than we're being told

A: An absolutely thick Garda left a loaded weapon on the street.
B: Weapon was stolen (Unlikely, wouldn't have gotten it back)
C: Garda left it there Accidentally....

Garda will now need to do a full audit on all fire arms.
No doubt some will be missing

Just the latest in a long list of scandals in this country... :mad:

Ten of Swords

I've read 2 articles about this SMG handed in this morning and the most worrying thing to me is that it seems the Gardai were not aware it was even missing.

whisky_galore

Why am I not surprised by these things anymore?

Rows Grower

Ten of Swords wrote: »

I've read 2 articles about this SMG handed in this morning and the most worrying thing to me is that it seems the Gardai were not aware it was even missing.

My thoughts exactly.

Beta Ray Bill

Ten of Swords wrote: »

I've read 2 articles about this SMG handed in this morning and the most worrying thing to me is that it seems the Gardai were not aware it was even missing.

Or maybe they were!
But just didn't tell anyone!

screamer

Piss poor from an gardai siochana there. If there storage is that inadequate in their Audi's they need to reassess especially if carrying loaded weapons. That little incident could have been catastrophic, they'd want to sharpen the pencil there.

D3V!L

I'd stick it in my bag and keep it in case we had a zombie outbreak or something. Like f*ck I'm handing over a machine gun if I find it.

Pelvis

Garda fudging the numbers once again, in fact 5 million sub-machine guns were handed in.

WoollyRedHat

It was just resting on the street.

MarkY91

How can this happen? Is there a more pathetic police force than ours in the western world? I doubt it.

Ten of Swords

I remembered a similar thing happening in the UK a few years ago. One of Tony Blair's bodyguards left a Glock pistol in the toilets at Starbucks and didn't realise it for over an hour, when she realised and returned to look for it someone had taken it.

Fortunately it was handed in.

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/2679015/Tony-Blairs-bodyguard-left-gun-in-Starbucks-toilet.html

That is proper mad. Can you imagine your kid like "Dad, Dad and I found a gun!!" and he actually had.

blackbox

Imagine what could happen in a country where everyone was allowed to carry guns.

Glass fused light

grahambo wrote: »

Read this, this morning.

What the f**k like!

https://www.breakingnews.ie/ireland/loaded-submachine-gun-belonging-to-gardai-found-on-the-street-854385.html



There is probably more going on here than we're being told

A: An absolutely thick Garda left a loaded weapon on the street.
B: Weapon was stolen (Unlikely, wouldn't have gotten it back)
C: Garda left it there Accidentally....

Garda will now need to do a full audit on all fire arms.
No doubt some will be missing

Just the latest in a long list of scandals in this country... :mad:

C, quids in, someone unstrapped and left it on top of a vehicle and drove off and the movement knocking the gun off. The person who did this is in a lot of bother, and no doubt so are the other officers as to how they actually manage the guns when not been carried on their person.
The suggestion that other guns are missing is a bit of a stretch.

PS And it's not the first time a serving Garda 'lost' a gun on duty.

Omackeral

'Murica 'Urland

CrankyHaus

It's high time that all Gardai were armed, then we'd have much more high powered firearms accidentally left out on the street.

topper75

Must have been strange little thought sequence that lead to this:

"I'll just put that down for a sec while I have a fag.
*busts out Rothmans from breast pocket*
Weight of the bloody thing.
Yeah cracking weather, can't remember when it last rained.
*drags on fag and looks at watch*
Gee look at that it's already knocking off time. Great!
*quenches fag*
That's me off. Feel like I forgot something.
Ah no worries, it'll come to me later sure"

And there are people who want to arm all the Gardai. :rolleyes:

Mint Sauce

This is probably one reason why Guards are not routinely armed here. I wonder if guns are usually left down by cops in Dunkin Dounuts in the U.S, or by European Cops in the French or Spanish equivalent.

check_six

Do the Armed Response Guards not check their weapons in and out every day? Or do they just lob them in a hold all and bring them home on the bus?

Mint Sauce

Mint Sauce wrote: »

This is probably one reason why Guards are not routinely armed here. I wonder if guns are usually left down by cops in Dunkin Dounuts in the U.S, or by European Cops in the French or Spanish equivalent.

Regularly. Often happens.
So are radios batons etc

Zebra3

[Deleted User] wrote: »

And there are people who want to arm all the Gardai. :rolleyes:

And gob****es who defend them to the hilt....

frozenfrozen

this is just shocking.. a guard littering

Glass fused light

check_six wrote: »

Do the Armed Response Guards not check their weapons in and out every day? Or do they just lob them in a hold all and bring them home on the bus?

The lads were probably still out when it was handed in, probably wakinig back along the route if they noticed it missing. Imagine the boss driving up, "morning lads how's it going ......had a little drop off this morning by a member of the public.... ..."

MarkY91

MarkY91 wrote: »

How can this happen? Is there a more pathetic police force than ours in the western world? I doubt it.

you sound like a reasonable and balanced voice on the topic alright

Feisar

D3V!L wrote: »

I'd stick it in my bag and keep it in case we had a zombie outbreak or something. Like f*ck I'm handing over a machine gun if I find it.

I'm a law abiding citizen but not a hope I'd hand in a random gun I found. Fair enough if it looked like some lad's shotgun but a Heckler and Koch? Not a hope. Sorry!

mattser

MarkY91 wrote: »

How can this happen? Is there a more pathetic police force than ours in the western world? I doubt it.

Right so. Don't bother your bollox calling them at 3am when you have a burglar. Fire the keyboard at him.
Or move somewhere else in Western Europe.

w/s/p/c/

This is pathetic from the Guards.  I thought this was a Waterford Whispers headline when I seen it on social media.  God forbid there is ever a terrorist incident where armed police need to be on the scene and you have to rely on them with the likes of this crap happening.  Its like something from the Police Academy movies.......

eviltimeban

Reminds me of an old army story I once heard. Soldiers on maneuvers lost a gun. So they tell their commanding officer they lost five guns. He promptly goes nuts. They go back to him later to say they found four but one was still missing. Not so bad then!

corner of hells

I think it's lovely that some upstanding member of the public would hand it in.

dense

Im wondering how exactly did it get into the news?


Did the Gardai issue a press release about the happy return of their lost firearm or did the finder phone a journalist to tell them about their excitement about finding it and their sense of civic pride in returning it?

corner of hells

eviltimeban wrote: »

Reminds me of an old army story I once heard. Soldiers on maneuvers lost a gun. So they tell their commanding officer they lost five guns. He promptly goes nuts. They go back to him later to say they found four but one was still missing. Not so bad then!

So they found four that weren't missing at all ?

enricoh

I'm wonder is the cop is suffering from post traumatic stress disorder after the trauma of this? Surely worth a try, with a sympathetic judge in tow there could be a handy 50k out of it!

eviltimeban

corner of hells wrote: »

So they found four that weren't missing at all ?

fuzzyduck4

dense wrote: »

Im wondering how exactly did it get into the news?


Did the Gardai issue a press release about the happy return of their lost firearm or did the finder phone a journalist to tell them about their excitement about finding it and their sense of civic pride in returning it?

Mustve been a member of the public that reported this. Some poor copper will be getting some strong words in a meeting this morning.

fuzzyduck4

dense wrote: »

Im wondering how exactly did it get into the news?


Did the Gardai issue a press release about the happy return of their lost firearm or did the finder phone a journalist to tell them about their excitement about finding it and their sense of civic pride in returning it?

Mustve been a member of the public that reported this. Some poor copper will be getting some strong words in a meeting this morning.

lawred2

mattser wrote: »

Right so. Don't bother your bollox calling them at 3am when you have a burglar. Fire the keyboard at him.
Or move somewhere else in Western Europe.

I think most people burgled would largely be in agreement with you really

corner of hells

eviltimeban wrote: »

Corners , you thick.

Whooosh.

For the record , I'm not a Garda and the guns not mine.

Snickers Man

blackbox wrote: »

Imagine what could happen in a country where everyone was allowed to carry guns.

Apparently things like this happen all the time in Israel, where all non-Arab citizens MUST serve in the armed forces and all able-bodied males are required to do so for at least a month every year.

In any public place you are bound to see a lot of armed soldiers, not necessarily on duty, just in service and toting their weapons with them. Also likely to find yourself sitting next to one on a bus or train.

This I have seen; what I haven't seen personally but have been told often happens is that soldiers leave the bus leaving their gun on the seat behind them. You know. like we do with our umbrellas. Even though, strictly speaking, you can be jailed for failing to account for your service weapon.

I would love to see it some day. "Sir! Your Uzi! Don't forget it."
Soldier slaps head "Doh! Silly me. Thanks for that. Bye"

RobbingBandit

They're lucky I didn't find it

YOU'LL NEVER TAKE ME ALIVE COPPERS

seamus

Mint Sauce wrote: »

This is probably one reason why Guards are not routinely armed here. I wonder if guns are usually left down by cops in Dunkin Dounuts in the U.S, or by European Cops in the French or Spanish equivalent.

Yes. It's a surprisingly common occurrence.

See that video a few weeks back where an FBI agent was doing some drunken breakdancing, dropped his gun and then shot someone in the leg in his scramble to pick it back up.

This incident will actually be taken seriously. The Gardai really don't fcnk around when it comes to weapons. The guy who lost it will need a very strong explanation to be allowed back onto an armed unit again.

The main implication here not being, "what if a criminal had found it", but rather "what if a child had found it".

kona

I doubt it was left on the ground for long. It was probably down beside one of the cars or in the process of being loaded into a car.
Afaik in the states , uk and europe the guns are attached to their belts with a cable.

arybvtcw0eolkf

Speaking as someone who's regularly armed you've to constantly bare in mind where your weapon is, constantly. I know I'd even check the serial number of my weapon a number of times during the course of a duty to make sure I've got my own weapon.

I can't imagine the Guards weapon was missing too long before the member noticed it, and likely shat himself.

I can not imagine losing my weapon, even the thought of it freaks me out.

And as bad as it is for the Guard today and least there's some relief for him/her that the weapon has been handed in and its safe.

Either way the member is in a world of sh*t this morning, and will be for awhile yet.

Thing is, its not even that difficult for an untrained person to charge and discharge a gun.

o1s1n

I can't believe I missed out on a free sub machine gun

corner of hells

Rylee Echoing Flu wrote: »

Speaking as someone who's regularly armed you've to constantly bare in mind where your weapon is, constantly. I know I'd even check the serial number of my weapon a number of times during the course of a duty to make sure I've got my own weapon.

I can't imagine the Guards weapon was missing too long before the member noticed it, and likely shat himself.

I can not imagine losing my weapon, even the thought of it freaks me out.

And as bad as it is for the Guard today and least there's some relief for him/her that the weapon has been handed in and its safe.

Either way the member is in a world of sh*t this morning, and will be for awhile yet.

Thing is, its not even that difficult for an untrained person to charge and discharge a gun.

What would happen to soldier if he lost a weapon ?

dense

fuzzyduck4 wrote: »

Mustve been a member of the public that reported this.

I suppose it must have, but I'd like to know the motivation behind reporting it to or sharing it with the media....


Unless AGS felt that they'd better say it for fear of the finder going to the press first and making them look as if they were trying to keep it quiet.



Not saying it should not be publicised, but haven't heard the finder being quoted about their disgust/shock/delight about their find!

soups05

just a thought, what would have happened the good citizen if he got stopped on the way to the station with a gun in his hand?

cops could mistakenly think he stole it or it was an illegal gun, showdown time. I would have rung 999 rather than pick it up.

(unless i could get it home safely then its purge time )

punisher5112

It fell out of the boot of Audi Q7 going over a ramp.
In it's bag and all.

Hitman3000

Rylee Echoing Flu wrote:

Either way the member is in a world of sh*t this morning, and will be for awhile yet.

I doubt that person will still be a member of the ERU at the end of the month.