does anyone actually pay to download music?

augustus gloop · 13-11-2012 3:17pm #1

im a little naive to the whole thing, my cuz showed me frostwire and how easy it is to find whatever you want and ping.... you got it, then send it to i tunes. too easy??? i dont know, maybe someone who knows a bit more and fill me in?

FatherLen · 13-11-2012 3:18pm

people still use frostwire?

preddy · 13-11-2012 3:19pm

Just stick a tape in your radio and press record on the songs you like - easy!

augustus gloop · 13-11-2012 3:20pm

as i say, im not on the razors edge with this stuff

Hardonraging · 13-11-2012 3:20pm

2004 called it said ....

CRM Ireland · 13-11-2012 3:28pm

I wonder how long this thread will be up before a mod comes along.....

MadYaker · 13-11-2012 3:28pm

Depends. If its some new relatively unknown band I will buy their stuff to support them, but if its some well established bands who are already minted I will just steal it from the interwebs.

fouga · 13-11-2012 3:31pm

I havent paid for music in years, its just so easy to find online for free.

Sky King · 13-11-2012 3:33pm

I listen free on youtube and if I like the music enough to want to have it on my phone / in the car I will pay for their music.

I could download it for free easily but it's not even the value of two pints for hours of entertainment.

endacl · 13-11-2012 3:34pm

preddy wrote: »

Just stick a tape in your radio and press record on the songs you like - easy!

It used to be play+record! Technology sure do be moving' on! I'll never catch up....

:-)

13-11-2012 3:35pm

I've an 8-track cartridge tape in the car, anyway of using this 'frostwire' thing to download to that, not very tech savvy I'm afraid.

keith_d99 · 13-11-2012 3:36pm

Get Spotify .... no need for piracy

Just launched in Ireland today

Jmccoy1 · 13-11-2012 3:37pm

2012 called and said Spotify is now available in Ireland.

B.A._Baracus · 13-11-2012 3:37pm

Seeing as how itunes and the likes are still making money. Alot of people out there legally buying music.

Problem is, i'm sick to death of hearing liars say they do, when they really dont :rolleyes: - you know the type. guys who say "I download to try, like a demo" or what not :pac:

fouga · 13-11-2012 3:38pm

endacl wrote: »

It used to be play+record! Technology sure do be moving' on! I'll never catch up....

:-)

mine doesn't play tapes:)

fouga · 13-11-2012 3:40pm

9959 wrote: »

I've an 8-track cartridge tape in the car, anyway of using this 'frostwire' thing to download to that, not very tech savvy I'm afraid.

how old is your car

anncoates · 13-11-2012 3:40pm

I pay for some stuff: mainly stuff I want to have an artifact of.

I spent years and years having to fork out (often on import) for entire albums and compilations just to get single tune that I liked so I've earned the right to download a little for free.

The old model of music consumption is gone forever and will never be back. Streaming is probably the way forward with some kind of nominal fee. Only people of my generation - and a minute proportion of generations thereafter - have a emotional attachment to physical music artifacts.

Plus if less artists make music, what of it? There has been more music made already (and easily accessible) than most of us can ever hope to plough through properly .

1ZRed · 13-11-2012 3:40pm

I just stream everything now and create playlists on youtube/vevo or whatever else on my phone. Handiest.

fouga · 13-11-2012 3:43pm

B.A._Baracus wrote: »

Seeing as how itunes and the likes are still making money. Alot of people out there legally buying music.

Problem is, i'm sick to death of hearing liars say they do, when they really dont :rolleyes: - you know the type. guys who say "I download to try, like a demo" or what not :pac:

If you have an Ipod etc you have to get it legally to listen to it on the device. Thats how Itunes makes money

Standard Toaster · 13-11-2012 3:46pm

There's feck all worth downloading music wise nowadays anyway.

endacl · 13-11-2012 3:47pm

fouga wrote: »

If you have an Ipod etc you have to get it legally to listen to it on the device. Thats how Itunes makes money

My ipod begs to differ...

gobnaitolunacy · 13-11-2012 3:48pm

fouga wrote: »

If you have an Ipod etc you have to get it legally to listen to it on the device. Thats how Itunes makes money

No you don't.

fouga · 13-11-2012 3:48pm

endacl wrote: »

My ipod begs to differ...

So I guess you know how to put illegally downloaded music onto a Ipod....please tell me cos I have a Ipod nano that I want to put music stored on my pc onto

RustyNut · 13-11-2012 3:49pm

fouga wrote: »

If you have an Ipod etc you have to get it legally to listen to it on the device. Thats how Itunes makes money

Ah no. No ya don't

Casillas · 13-11-2012 3:50pm

Thanks thread, you led me to Spotify!

Bye, bye Grooveshark!

endacl · 13-11-2012 3:51pm

fouga wrote: »

So I guess you know how to put illegally downloaded music onto a Ipod....please tell me cos I have a Ipod nano that I want to put music stored on my pc onto

That would be reinforcing laziness. It's not difficult. No tricks involved. Best advice would be to figure it out. Hint: check the menu bar.

;-)

Standard Toaster · 13-11-2012 3:52pm

You down 'own' the music you download from Apple, just ask Bruce Willis.

SunnyDub1 · 13-11-2012 3:52pm

If I can't find a song/album I am looking for on line I will buy off itunes. Same if the quality of the on line version is poor.

My bother however has thousands of songs on his ipod and has purchased them all from itunes :rolleyes:

CRM Ireland · 13-11-2012 3:55pm

fouga wrote: »

So I guess you know how to put illegally downloaded music onto a Ipod....please tell me cos I have a Ipod nano that I want to put music stored on my pc onto

I dont know how the nano works as I dont have one. I have an ipod touch and I have an even older ipod, the type with the rotational control. I cant even remember what its called its been that long since its been out of the drawer, maybe an ipod mini....

All Ive been doing is downloading whatever music tracks I want from ANYWHERE, then simply dragging them into itunes and it converts the songs into the format the ipod wants and it plays. I dont have to do anything at all, itunes does it all for me.

I dont like itunes actually. In fact, sometimes I hate it. There are probably some settings that can be changed, but at the time, I found it really difficult to have two ipods using the same computer. Kept trying to synch playlists with the wrong ipod etc. Id much rather have a simple drag and drop system, like the folders in windows!

fouga · 13-11-2012 3:56pm

endacl wrote: »

That would be reinforcing laziness. It's not difficult. No tricks involved. Best advice would be to figure it out. Hint: check the menu bar.

;-)

What, thats no help.....

CRM Ireland · 13-11-2012 3:57pm

SunnyDub1 wrote: »

If I can't find a song/album I am looking for on line I will buy off itunes. Same if the quality of the on line version is poor.

My bother however has thousands of songs on his ipod and has purchased them all from itunes :rolleyes:

If you download FLAC versions of music, the quality will be exceptional. When searching just add "FLAC" to the album title, or choose it in the list of results.

brummytom · 13-11-2012 4:00pm

fouga wrote: »

What, thats no help.....

Go to your 'My Music' folder or wherever the songs are, right-click, 'Open with -> Itunes', drag them down to the left hand side where it says 'My iPod'. It honestly couldn't be more easy.

endacl · 13-11-2012 4:01pm

No. I don't pay to download. Over the years is spent silly money buying 1000's of albums on vinyl, then cd's. Feel no guilt downloading an album I've already paid for. Now, if I want something new, I'll get the vinyl. Putting on music still retains some 'ritual'. Most albums come with a code for a free dl. If they dont, sometimes I'm cheeky and grab it anyway. No different from when I used to tape a copy for the car. I'd be embarrassed to add up an estimate of what I've paid over the years for music. Won't 'buy an album' in mp3 format. Will chuck it on in the car as an mp3, but if I'm listening at home, I want quality.

adam88 · 13-11-2012 4:02pm

I'm using YouTube converter. Just simply find the song on YouTube then copy the link and away you go you have to drag the file over alright but all in all you've the song on your iPod within 7-8 mind. I think this works well for me as quality is good enough. Am I creating work for myself by doing this

endacl · 13-11-2012 4:03pm

fouga wrote: »

What, thats no help.....

File>import track, or file>import folder.

Simple.

maximoose · 13-11-2012 4:04pm

Frostwire? Pffft that's so old. Napster is where it's at.

endacl · 13-11-2012 4:05pm

adam88 wrote: »

I'm using YouTube converter. Just simply find the song on YouTube then copy the link and away you go you have to drag the file over alright but all in all you've the song on your iPod within 7-8 mind. I think this works well for me as quality is good enough. Am I creating work for myself by doing this

Yes. And the quality will be crap.

Ash.J.Williams · 13-11-2012 4:07pm

MadYaker wrote: »

Depends. If its some new relatively unknown band I will buy their stuff to support them, but if its some well established bands who are already minted I will just steal it from the interwebs.

do you check their accounts to see if they are minted or do you guess? Or is ti only pre 1990 bands?

Custardpi · 13-11-2012 4:08pm

CRM Ireland wrote: »

If you download FLAC versions of music, the quality will be exceptional. When searching just add "FLAC" to the album title, or choose it in the list of results.

The file sizes are huge though so not really suitable for portable devices with very limited storage. Plus in a typical portable environment (noisy DART, etc) I doubt if you'd tell the difference between them & 320kbps mp3s. In addition, if (unlike me) you're an Apple gimp user you won't be able to play them on your iPod but will have to convert them. For home use with a decent system they're pretty good though.

fouga · 13-11-2012 4:10pm

endacl wrote: »

File>import track, or file>import folder.

Simple.

ha ok must be my Ipod thats fecked, it wants to format the drive for some reason every time I plug it into my laptop. I thought that was something to do with putting Illegal music on it...woops

Maximus Alexander · 13-11-2012 4:11pm

Yes lots of people pay for music.

Custardpi · 13-11-2012 4:11pm

endacl wrote: »

Yes. And the quality will be crap.

In fairness if he's using that method to get his music he's probably also using the earbuds that came free with his iPod, so he wouldn't be able to notice any difference in quality anyway.

Lenin Skynard · 13-11-2012 4:11pm

I use kat.ph or the pirate bay for mine. Does that make me some sort of out-of-touch grandad?

adam88 · 13-11-2012 4:11pm

OSI wrote: »

lol, 7-8 minutes per track?

I'd have the entire discography of most artists in that kinda time.

Well a lot of that time is do to crappy download speeds. I think quality is good enough

endacl · 13-11-2012 4:16pm

adam88 wrote: »

Well a lot of that time is do to crappy download speeds. I think quality is good enough

Well, if you're happy with it... Try an A/B test with a legal mp3 of the same track. Then try it against a cd copy. If you have access, try vinyl. If you're still happy, bin the ipod earbuds and try again.