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Should cycling two abreast be allowed?

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    #92
    John_Rambo
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    What are you doing here? I thought you were off finding POW's in Vietnam? :P


    They drew first blood, not me.


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    #93
    [Deleted User]
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    mrcheez wrote: »
    erm.. ok, I'll shout back to you.

    Oh wait you won't hear me as you'll be cocooned in your soundproof vehicle.

    You won't shout back at me because you're "detached from the world around you"- remember? ;)


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    #94
    Wombatman
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    93 Yes and 93 No. Mad how even the split is, without too many knows, suggesting people are polarised on this.


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    #95
    tuxy
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    If you look at the reports of cyclists killed on the roads it's normally people out solo.

    Do you think there should be more done to promote cycling as a group as it seems to be much safer?


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    #96
    Lefty Bicek
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    tuxy wrote: »
    If you look at the reports of cyclists killed on the roads it's normally people out solo.

    Do you think there should be more done to promote cycling as a group as it seems to be much safer?

    Do you mean news reports ?


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    #97
    [Deleted User]
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    tuxy wrote: »
    If you look at the reports of cyclists killed on the roads it's normally people out solo.

    Do you think there should be more done to promote cycling as a group as it seems to be much safer?

    There are a lot of people cycling out there who know what they're doing on the roads. but with the advent of cycling as a popular pastime and form of exercise, there's a lot who don't know what they're doing.
    A good group of cyclists who know what they're about are to be respected. A group who don't, are to be feared. In my experience, there's a lot of groups who don't know what they're doing and are causing problems on country roads.


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    #98
    amcalester
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    [Deleted User] wrote: »
    Oh they are, but you're not willing to believe that, so we'll leave it there.

    Some may, I’m not foolish enough to say it never happens. It just doesn’t happen as much as people claim, the roads just aren’t wide enough for 3 - 4 cyclists to travel side by side.


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    #99
    John_Rambo
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    Deleted User wrote: »
    There are a lot of people cycling out there who know what they're doing on the roads. but with the advent of cycling as a popular pastime and form of exercise, there's a lot who don't know what they're doing.
    A good group of cyclists who know what they're about are to be respected. A group who don't, are to be feared. In my experience, there's a lot of groups who don't know what they're doing and are causing problems on country roads.


    There's a much much much bigger group of motorists that don't know what they're doing that cause much bigger problems and fatalities on country roads.


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    #100
    Fighting Tao
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    Wombatman wrote: »
    93 Yes and 93 No. Mad how even the split is, without too many knows, suggesting people are polarised on this.

    A poll like this can mean anything. it could mean any of the following or others that I haven't noted down)
    1. about 50% of people have no regard for others lives and are willing to endanger their lives.
    2. about 50% of people understand the importance and necessity of 2 abreast
    3. about 50% fo people are just anti people not in cars
    4. about 50% of people cycle

    The list could go on and on.


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    #101
    tuxy
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    Deleted User wrote: »
    There are a lot of people cycling out there who know what they're doing on the roads. but with the advent of cycling as a popular pastime and form of exercise, there's a lot who don't know what they're doing.
    A good group of cyclists who know what they're about are to be respected. A group who don't, are to be feared. In my experience, there's a lot of groups who don't know what they're doing and are causing problems on country roads.

    I'd actually be in favour of making it mandatory to join a cycling club that is a member of cycling Ireland. Plenty of great clubs that could give these people advice and if they wear the club jersey you have someone to report dangerous cycling to. Very affordable too <€100 a year.

    Although it's probably not much use to people who commute by bike. And the last thing you would want to do is to encourage people that cycle to work to give up on it and get a car as that would cause major traffic jams.


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    #102
    [Deleted User]
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    amcalester wrote: »
    Some may, I’m not foolish enough to say it never happens. It just doesn’t happen as much as people claim, the roads just aren’t wide enough for 3 - 4 cyclists to travel side by side.

    It happens to me regularly in my area- but that may not be a nationwide experience and I'm not claiming for an instant that it is- I'm not for 1 minute "putting down all cyclists" - I've many great experiences of driving behind cyclists in groups and individuals. But also some horror stories, too many in recent times- I think it's as a result in the growing popularity of cycling and there's just too many people out there who don't know what they're doing or should be doing on country roads.


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    #103
    Fighting Tao
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    Deleted User wrote: »
    It happens to me regularly in my area- but that may not be a nationwide experience and I'm not claiming for an instant that it is- I'm not for 1 minute "putting down all cyclists" - I've many great experiences of driving behind cyclists in groups and individuals. But also some horror stories, too many in recent times- I think it's as a result in the growing popularity of cycling and there's just too many people out there who don't know what they're doing or should be doing on country roads.

    Go on then. What is your area and we can check it out for ourselves and report back. :D


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    #104
    Sweetemotion
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    John_Rambo wrote: »
    There's a much much much bigger group of motorists that don't know what they're doing that cause much bigger problems and fatalities on country roads.

    And they can be fined and penalised for doing so. Cyclists who break the rules of the road and hold a driving license should get points for doing so and those that don't have a license should have those points put on when they do get one.


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    #105
    [Deleted User]
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    tuxy wrote: »
    I'd actually be in favour of making it mandatory to join a cycling club that is a member of cycling Ireland. Plenty of great clubs that could give these people advice and if they wear the club jersey you have someone to report dangerous cycling to. Very affordable too <€100 a year.

    A hard one to legislate for but highly recommended to be encouraged. I don't "hate" cyclists, like some drivers may, but there's a certain amount of idiocy out there, especially on country roads- no lights, dark clothing, that sort of thing. Similar to pedestrians who actually should know better. Cyclists are only passing through but pedestrians tend to be local to the area so should be prepared.


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    #106
    Fighting Tao
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    Sweetemotion wrote: »
    And they can be fined and penalised for doing so. Cyclists who break the rules of the road and hold a driving license should get points for doing so and those that don't have a license should have those points put on when the do get a one.

    Have a look at the cycling forum and you will see that virtually everyone is in favour of the laws of the road been enforced for everyone. There is no point in creating new laws when current ones are sufficient but are not being enforced for people in any modes of transport.


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    #107
    [Deleted User]
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    Fighting Tao wrote: »
    Go on then. What is your area and we can check it out for ourselves and report back. :D

    Ireland :p


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    #108
    Fighting Tao
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    A hard one to legislate for but highly recommended to be encouraged. I don't "hate" cyclists, like some drivers may, but there's a certain amount of idiocy out there, especially on country roads- no lights, dark clothing, that sort of thing. Similar to pedestrians who actually should know better. Cyclists are only passing through but pedestrians tend to be local to the area so should be prepared.

    BINGO!!!!!!! What do I win?


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    #109
    flange888
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    Yes it should and I'll tell you why, for two reasons;
    1. Cycling two abreast makes the group more compact and allows cars to overtake much more easily.
    2. Cycling is great for the head and what makes it even better is the social element, going out for a spin on the bike with a group of people is much more enjoyable when you can have a good chin wag at the same time, very hard to do that when in single file.


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    #110
    Seth Brundle
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    [Deleted User] wrote: »
    Seriously though, every weekend, narrow country roads, continuous white line- especially Sundays, 3-4 abreast is the norm in my experience. It's recommended that cyclists refrain from two abreast on such roads but in my very humble experience, they don't revert to single file on these roads.
    Do you know what the continuous white line means?


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    #111
    Fighting Tao
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    Deleted User wrote: »
    Ireland :p

    Yeah, like practically everyone posting here and that's what make your claims sound really spurious.


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    #112
    [Deleted User]
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    Seth Brundle wrote: »
    Do you know what the continuous white line means?

    I do indeed

    *Get's popcorn*


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    #113
    AndrewJRenko
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    Wombatman wrote: »
    Should out of competition cycling, two abreast, be allowed on public roads?
    Should motorists be allowed drive around with an empty armchair beside them and an empty couch behind them?

    Wombatman wrote: »
    Garda say cycling two abreast should only occur when safe to do so and in some locations it should not be done at all.
    What 'Garda say' doesn't make the law.


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    #114
    Beasty
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    AndrewJRenko wrote: »
    What 'Garda say' doesn't make the law.
    May not make it law, but it makes sense to follow the "recommendation" to do so only where it is safe to do so


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    #115
    MaryBrosnan
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    We must all share the roads.


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    #116
    Sweetemotion
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    Beasty wrote: »
    May not make it law, but it makes sense to follow the "recommendation" to do so only where it is safe to do so

    That's like saying. If I feel comfortable driving at only 40km on a motorway it's ok, because feck everyone else as long as I'm safe.


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    #117
    tuxy
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    Sweetemotion wrote: »
    That's like saying. If I feel comfortable driving at only 40km on a motorway it's ok, because feck everyone else as long as I'm safe.

    But that's not safe for you or anyone else........


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    #118
    AndrewJRenko
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    Beasty wrote: »
    May not make it law, but it makes sense to follow the "recommendation" to do so only where it is safe to do so


    I've never heard of cyclists killing anyone as a result of cycling two abreast. It seems like an inherently safe activity to me.


    MaryBrosnan wrote: »
    We must all share the roads.


    Indeed we must.



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    #119
    Sweetemotion
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    tuxy wrote: »
    But that's not safe for you or anyone else........

    Exactly my point.


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    #120
    Weepsie
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    [Deleted User] wrote: »

    Seriously though, every weekend, narrow country roads, continuous white line- especially Sundays, 3-4 abreast is the norm in my experience. It's recommended that cyclists refrain from two abreast on such roads but in my very humble experience, they don't revert to single file on these roads.

    . :(

    I bet it isn't. A group of only 4 cyclists can look like 3 abreast of they are not perfectly aligned.

    What people perceive as 3-4 abreast is mostly absolute bs, and a handy line to bandy about. Its generally a group, of 2 abreast cyclists that look otherwise.


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    #121
    Wombatman
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    AndrewJRenko wrote: »
    Indeed we must.

    For transport yes, but for socialising?


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