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    #62
    SEPT 23 1989
    Registered Users Posts: 43,027 ✭✭✭✭SEPT 23 1989


    Guy:Incognito wrote: »
    "everythign Trump does good"

    "evil mean people on internet all bad"

    Burr burr burr.

    Again, what a sad position for someone who is so righteous and powerful to have to play the victim all the time.

    Nope

    He has made mistakes but he has got this right


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    #63
    pjohnson
    Registered Users Posts: 23,251 ✭✭✭✭pjohnson


    Trump appeals to a type and this carry on will just endear him to the type he relies on for votes.

    No suprise his diehards have no issue with this.


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    #64
    Sonics2k
    Registered Users Posts: 8,239 ✭✭✭Sonics2k


    SEPT 23 1989 wrote: »
    Nope

    He has made mistakes but he has got this right

    But Trump has literally called for social media sites to do fact checking.

    Now he's having a sissy fit because he got fact checked. And here's the kicker, the man uses postal voting!


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    #65
    Guy:Incognito
    Registered Users Posts: 38,247 ✭✭✭✭Guy:Incognito


    Sonics2k wrote: »
    But Trump has literally called for social media sites to do fact checking.

    Now he's having a sissy fit because he got fact checked. And here's the kicker, the man uses postal voting!

    Everything he called Obama names for on twitter he has done himself since. The man is a scumbag for simpletons.

    A man with a history of infidelity on his 3rd marriage, taking a conservative religious stance on anything is laughable. But then, we all know that stance as a whole is bull**** designed to control people. Further evidenced by the sheer number of its higher ups that are caught blatantly going against it.

    Advocating potentially dangerous drugs is not a presidential act.

    To reiterate, a self serving scumbag.

    Hes spent 40 years flip flopping back and forward between parties whenever it suited what he wanted best.

    The funny thing is hed let every one of his Supporters die if it suited his needs and these idiots cant or wont see it.


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    #66
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 6,192 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Sonics2k wrote: »
    Trump will probably win though.

    Biden gets no real respect from Democratic voters and can't stir up a crowd. It's all quite obvious he has no charisma.


    I would broadly been of the view,that he should win and until.this coronavirus id have backed him everytime to do so (on polling figures)


    But theres too many died due to basic incompetence of his,hes too devisive a president to attain new supporters


    Biden is a teŕrible choice and every bit,the sleezebag and neo-lib that trump is (if not worser),and unlikely he wouldnt last a full term,the man is old and clearly of poor health,

    A bit of a sophies choice for the yanks it seems


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    #67
    Timberrrrrrrr
    Registered Users Posts: 25,430 ✭✭✭✭Timberrrrrrrr


    [Deleted User] wrote: »
    I would broadly been of the view,that he should win and until.this coronavirus id have backed him everytime to do so


    But theres too many died due to basic incompetence of his,hes too devisive a president to attain new supporters


    Biden is a teŕrible choice and every bit,the sleezebag and neo-lib that trump is (if not worser),and unlikely he wouldnt last a full term,the man is old and clearly of poor health,

    A bit of a sophies choice for the yanks it seems

    He is 4 years older than Trump, Trump is an obese cheeseburger eating drug addict.


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    #68
    Sonics2k
    Registered Users Posts: 8,239 ✭✭✭Sonics2k


    They're both god awful candidates.


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    #69
    osarusan
    Registered Users Posts: 16,562 ✭✭✭✭osarusan


    Not sure how I feel about it.

    Twitter is full of people making all kinds of false claims, and Twitter doesn't have a policy of banning people just for lies - it has to be more than that. They have a set of policies, and as I understand it, the actions they've taken with Trump's tweets are in line with those policies - but the issue is one of consistent application of their own rules.

    Is Trump a special case, deserving individual attention, held to a higher standard? Who else should that apply to?

    Or should they just leave it alone?

    Hard to feel any sympathy for Trump who comes across as such a w@nker on Twitter, and has such contempt for the press himself.

    But there is still a wider context, or general principle, to be considered.


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    #70
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    Timberrrrrrrr wrote: »
    He is 4 years older than Trump, Trump is an obese cheeseburger eating drug addict.

    Tbh....with trump,you get what you see,despite the claims of his support of him being a supermind/planner etc,imo he really isnt


    Biden isnt offering.anything much better to your average yank though,only a more politically correct version of trump.....is he gonna reign in the fairly obvious glaring social issues facing america??

    Trump certainly isnt,but biden is only gonna be more politically correct,while lining his and his mates pockets in a country with upto 25% depending on demographics


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    #71
    ChelseaRentBoy
    Closed Accounts Posts: 474 ✭✭ChelseaRentBoy


    Joeytheparrot wrote: »
    Trump cant win the next election if twitter bans him.

    Just like he couldn't win the last election?


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    #72
    mariaalice
    Registered Users Posts: 12,382 ✭✭✭✭mariaalice


    Deleted User wrote: »
    Tbh....with trump,you get what you see,despite the claims of his support of him being a supermind/planner etc,imo he really isnt


    Biden isnt offering.anything much better to your average yank though,only a more politically correct version of trump.....is he gonna reign in the fairly obvious glaring social issues facing america??

    Trump certainly isnt,but biden is only gonna be more politically correct,while lining his and his mates pockets in a country with upto 25% depending on demographics

    The big problem with Biden is that his main selling point is that his not Trump and that is not enough.


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    #73
    threeball
    Registered Users Posts: 7,965 ✭✭✭threeball


    Celine Immense Hedge wrote: »
    Don't worry about the twatter noise, be more worried about facebook slurry.

    Billionaire Mark Zuckerburg, was considering running for POTUS last time around (until folks realised he was a bore).
    However closer to 2024, the nerd master will be a step closer to his dream of an all-knowing AI running the platform.

    This automation will give him a year or two off to travel: find himself, eat street kebabs after shandies, swim with dolphins, cram in music festivals, and develop a persona.
    After which, he'll be return elevated, and be able to poke/like about 3bn people into persuading them to support his great POTUS24/28/30 plans.


    That is... if the much more interesting Musk doesn't beat him to it.

    Musk can't be president even if he wanted to. Hes not American. Same reason Arnie never got past governor


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    #74
    4068ac1elhodqr
    Closed Accounts Posts: 9,586 ✭✭✭4068ac1elhodqr


    threeball wrote: »
    Musk can't be president even if he wanted to. Hes not American. Same reason Arnie never got past governor
    Bit of a shame, guess it's nerdy Zuckerberg then for 2024/8.


    Any other big name billionaires? perhaps Oprah will be ready in a few years.
    The Amazon guy isn't media friendly these days, so could exclude him.


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    #75
    4068ac1elhodqr
    Closed Accounts Posts: 9,586 ✭✭✭4068ac1elhodqr


    mariaalice wrote: »
    The big problem with Biden is that his main selling point is that his not Trump and that is not enough.

    Once you see that video all over the utube of Biden sniffing ladies hair, or trying to position young (young) ladies in directly front of him (very close in front of him), it's a visual repulsion that's hard to forget without copious amounts of NLP/CBT lol.

    Nevermind the bleeding eyes live on a CNN debate, possible health issues?


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    #76
    Timberrrrrrrr
    Registered Users Posts: 25,430 ✭✭✭✭Timberrrrrrrr


    Celine Immense Hedge wrote: »
    Once you see that video all over the utube of Biden sniffing ladies hair, or trying to position young (young) ladies in directly front of him (very close in front of him), it's a visual repulsion that's hard to forget without copious amounts of NLP/CBT lol.

    Nevermind the bleeding eyes live on a CNN debate, possible health issues?

    You think that's revolting? Here's some of Trumps "finer moments"

    https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/www.rollingstone.com/politics/politics-features/a-timeline-of-donald-trumps-creepiness-while-he-owned-miss-universe-191860/amp/
    He just came strolling right in,” Dixon said. “There was no second to put a robe on or any sort of clothing or anything. Some girls were topless. Others girls were naked. Our first introduction to him was when we were at the dress rehearsal and half-naked changing into our bikinis
    To have the owner come waltzing in, when we’re naked, or half-naked, in a very physically vulnerable position and then to have the pressure of the people that worked for him telling us to go fawn all over him, go walk up to him, talk to him, get his attention…
    You know, no men are anywhere. And I’m allowed to go in because I’m the owner of the pageant. And therefore I’m inspecting it… Is everyone OK? You know, they’re standing there with no clothes. And you see these incredible-looking women. And so I sort of get away with things like that,” he said.
    former contestants say Trump unexpectedly entered the Miss Teen USA dressing room, the reigning Miss Universe, Brook Antoinette Mahealani Lee, recalls Trump asking her about the looks of his daughter Ivanka, who was co-hosting the pageant. “‘Don’t you think my daughter’s hot? She’s hot, right?'” 
    He kissed me directly on the lips. I thought, ‘Oh my God, gross.’ He was married to Marla Maples at the time. I think there were a few other girls that he kissed on the mouth. I was like, ‘Wow, that’s inappropriate,'” Taggart told The New York Times. She says he did the same thing a few months later at Trump Tower, where he had invited her to discuss her career. To succeed in the entertainment industry, Trump advised 21-year-old Taggart to lie about her age. “We’re going to have to tell them you’re 17


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    #77
    Pherekydes
    Registered Users Posts: 16,115 ✭✭✭✭Pherekydes


    mariaalice wrote: »
    The big problem with Biden is that his main selling point is that his not Trump and that is not enough.

    His main selling point is that he'll have a female VP and is eminently impeachable.

    Bye bye big baby.


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    #78
    kowloon
    Registered Users Posts: 13,322 ✭✭✭✭kowloon


    suicide_circus wrote: »
    silicone valley has a political position and their platforms take an editorial stance.

    I think you mean Silicon Valley, parts of the San Francisco Bay Area where all the tech firms are. Silicone Valley is the part of LA famous for making porn.
    Not being a grammar nazi type, but you don't want to get them mixed up. :D


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    #79
    Madeleine Birchfield
    Registered Users Posts: 271 ✭✭Madeleine Birchfield


    Celine Immense Hedge wrote: »
    Once you see that video all over the utube of Biden sniffing ladies hair, or trying to position young (young) ladies in directly front of him (very close in front of him), it's a visual repulsion that's hard to forget without copious amounts of NLP/CBT lol.

    Nevermind the bleeding eyes live on a CNN debate, possible health issues?
    Timberrrrrrrr wrote: »
    You think that's revolting? Here's some of Trumps "finer moments"

    https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/www.rollingstone.com/politics/politics-features/a-timeline-of-donald-trumps-creepiness-while-he-owned-miss-universe-191860/amp/

    For this alone the Healy Raes would be better than these two candidates for American president. Afaik they don't have a history of sexual assault and rape of women.


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    #80
    Ardillaun
    Registered Users Posts: 2,543 ✭✭✭Ardillaun


    High tech may be dominated by Libs but it’s eyeballs that really matter to their bottom line and Trump, like polarizing populists everywhere, is great business for them. Trump and Twitter have been wonderful for each other and Facebook makes a fortune with him; he, in turn, loves the platforms because there are so few pesky fact-checkers compared to tv and print. Until now, anyway.
    A particular irony in Trump’s framing of Twitter’s fact-check as “censorship” is that such actions are exercises of Twitter’s own First Amendment rights. The fact-check did not delete Trump’s false claims, but merely provided additional information to users about them. Such “counterspeech” is a treasured First Amendment value, as famously expressed by Justice Louis Brandeis: “If there be time to expose through discussion the falsehood and fallacies, to avert the evil by the processes of education, the remedy to be applied is more speech, not enforced silence.”

    But even if Twitter had deleted Trump’s tweets, this action, too, would have been protected by the First Amendment. The right to free speech includes both the right to speak and the right not to speak. As the Supreme Court held in West Virginia State Board of Education v. Barnette, “If there is any fixed star in our constitutional constellation, it is that no official, high or petty, can prescribe what shall be orthodox in politics, nationalism, religion, or other matters of opinion, or force citizens to confess by word or act their faith therein.” If Twitter decided tomorrow to ban all “conservative” or “liberal” speech from its platform, it would have the right to do so. This right of private entities to make certain decisions about who gets to use their services or whose messages they want to promote is, at least when conservatives approve of the outcome, also known as “the free market.”

    https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2020/05/the-utter-incoherence-of-trumps-battle-with-twitter/612367/


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    #81
    Madeleine Birchfield
    Registered Users Posts: 271 ✭✭Madeleine Birchfield


    kowloon wrote: »
    I think you mean Silicon Valley, parts of the San Francisco Bay Area where all the tech firms are. Silicone Valley is the part of LA famous for making porn.
    Not being a grammar nazi type, but you don't want to get them mixed up. :D

    To some conservative Christians they might as well be the same.


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    #82
    Ardillaun
    Registered Users Posts: 2,543 ✭✭✭Ardillaun


    The Washington Examiner is a conservative newspaper. Here is some of what it had to say on Trump’s recent tweets about Joe Scarborough:
    Nearly two decades ago, when Joe Scarborough was a conservative Republican member of Congress from Florida, his office suffered a tragedy. One of his staff, a 28-year-old woman, named Lori Klausutis, collapsed from a heart condition while working alone in his Fort Walton Beach, Florida, office.

    As the medical examiner later reported, she hit her head in the process of fainting, and the blow killed her. When her body was found the following morning by a constituent arriving for an appointment — she never had the chance to lock up — there was no suspicion of foul play.

    Unfortunately, in the minds of certain lunatics — especially disreputable, typically (but not always) anonymous online left-wingers itching to slander any available Republican politician — this became a hot new conspiracy theory. Scarborough, they theorized, must have been having an affair with the staffer in question, and he must have murdered her in order to cover it up. According to this tall tale, the controversy surrounding her death even forced Scarborough to leave Congress — so that just proves it, right?

    ...it is far, far more unfortunate that the latest person to trumpet and repeat this vile slander is the president supposedly leading this nation through a time of crisis.

    Whatever his issues with Scarborough, President Trump's crazed Twitter rant on this subject was vile and unworthy of his office. Some will undoubtedly shrug it off as Trump being Trump, but one could hardly be blamed for reading it and doubting his fitness to lead.


    https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/opinion/editorials/trumps-slanderous-attack-on-joe-scarborough-is-incompatible-with-leadership

    I prefer America’s take on free speech and defamation to Ireland’s but this is just too much. There is no evidence that Klausutis was murdered or that she had a sexual relationship with Scarborough. Let’s just say it’s not very classy behaviour by a head of government.


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    #83
    Timberrrrrrrr
    Registered Users Posts: 25,430 ✭✭✭✭Timberrrrrrrr


    Madeleine Birchfield wrote: »
    For this alone the Healy Raes would be better than these two candidates for American president. Afaik they don't have a history of sexual assault and rape of women.

    But the sheep seem to be very wary around them :pac:


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    #84
    threeball
    Registered Users Posts: 7,965 ✭✭✭threeball


    Timberrrrrrrr wrote: »
    You think that's revolting? Here's some of Trumps "finer moments"

    https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/www.rollingstone.com/politics/politics-features/a-timeline-of-donald-trumps-creepiness-while-he-owned-miss-universe-191860/amp/

    Gas that Weinstein is in prison for stuff like this and Trump is president.


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    #85
    4068ac1elhodqr
    Closed Accounts Posts: 9,586 ✭✭✭4068ac1elhodqr


    threeball wrote: »
    Gas that Weinstein is in prison for stuff like this and Trump is president.
    More worringly, Airmiles Andy and Billy Clinton appear to have 'partied' very hard with Epstien, as revelations show (further) in recent days:

    Bill Clinton 'had affair with Jeffrey Epstein pimp Ghislaine Maxwell during trips on pedophile's private jet', explosive new book claims
    - https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8362559/Bill-Clinton-accused-affair-Ghislaine-Maxwell-new-book-claims.html

    WHITEHOUSE SCANDAL ‘Bill Clinton told Jeffrey Epstein he slept with Monica Lewinsky as she was only girl in White House for gov shutdown’
    - https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/11727926/bill-clinton-jeffrey-epstein-monica-lewinsky-white-house-shutdown/

    ‘DO THE RIGHT THING’ Prince Andrew ‘maybe has something to hide’ says Jeffrey Epstein’s butler who ‘set up tables for Duke’s daily massages’
    - https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/11742501/prince-andrew-jeffrey-epstein-butler/

    n.b. Someone will be along now in 3,2,1....

    ...to ignore the stories, and instead attack the sources (all be it the two best selling papers in the uk), and the most read (en) online newspaper in the entire world.


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    #86
    Madeleine Birchfield
    Registered Users Posts: 271 ✭✭Madeleine Birchfield


    Celine Immense Hedge wrote: »
    More worringly, Airmiles Andy and Billy Clinton appear to have 'partied' very hard with Epstien, as revelations show (further) in recent days:

    Bill Clinton 'had affair with Jeffrey Epstein pimp Ghislaine Maxwell during trips on pedophile's private jet', explosive new book claims
    - https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8362559/Bill-Clinton-accused-affair-Ghislaine-Maxwell-new-book-claims.html

    WHITEHOUSE SCANDAL ‘Bill Clinton told Jeffrey Epstein he slept with Monica Lewinsky as she was only girl in White House for gov shutdown’
    - https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/11727926/bill-clinton-jeffrey-epstein-monica-lewinsky-white-house-shutdown/

    ‘DO THE RIGHT THING’ Prince Andrew ‘maybe has something to hide’ says Jeffrey Epstein’s butler who ‘set up tables for Duke’s daily massages’
    - https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/11742501/prince-andrew-jeffrey-epstein-butler/

    n.b. Someone will be along now in 3,2,1....

    ...to ignore the stories, and instead attack the sources (all be it the two best selling papers in the uk), and the most read (en) online newspaper in the entire world.

    Donald Trump probably features in the scandals as well as he was affiliated with the Clintons, Epstein, and Prince Andrew during the 1990s and 2000s.


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    #87
    4068ac1elhodqr
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    Madeleine Birchfield wrote: »
    probably
    Yes in the real of probably, hearsay etc.

    Sure the Don has said/vocalised some laddish comments, but Andy (now refjected by charity, eng royals, and afriad to step foot on US soil), and Bill (not speaking to the media so much these days) have a significant breadcrumb* trail of wickness behind them.

    *breadcrumbs the size of thick loafs.


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    #88
    PropJoe10
    Registered Users Posts: 5,253 ✭✭✭PropJoe10


    Biden is a poor candidate. Trump is a disgusting, despicable, embarrassing and extremely dangerous candidate. It shouldn't even be a contest.


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    #89
    Madeleine Birchfield
    Registered Users Posts: 271 ✭✭Madeleine Birchfield


    Celine Immense Hedge wrote: »
    Yes in the real of probably, hearsay etc.

    Sure the Don has said/vocalised some laddish comments, but Andy (now refjected by charity, eng royals, and afriad to step foot on US soil), and Bill (not speaking to the media so much these days) have a significant breadcrumb* trail of wickness behind them.

    *breadcrumbs the size of thick loafs.

    https://www.elle.com/culture/career-politics/amp28320376/jeffrey-epstein-president-trump-connection/

    https://www.vox.com/platform/amp/2019/7/9/20686347/jeffrey-epstein-trump-bill-clinton

    https://www.businessinsider.com/jeffrey-epstein-and-trump-mar-a-lago-resort-connections?amp

    https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=AUDr_c2PalI

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/donald-trump-and-jeffrey-epstein-partied-together-then-an-oceanfront-palm-beach-mansion-came-between-them/2019/07/31/79f1d98c-aca0-11e9-a0c9-6d2d7818f3da_story.html?outputType=amp


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    #90
    4068ac1elhodqr
    Closed Accounts Posts: 9,586 ✭✭✭4068ac1elhodqr


    PropJoe10 wrote: »
    Biden is a poor candidate. Trump is a disgusting, despicable, embarrassing and extremely dangerous candidate. It shouldn't even be a contest.
    Policy might be more important than personality e.g. booming economies, low unemployment, reduction in wars (or risks of new wars, securing borders, creating a new space force, not being swayed nor bought out by corporate bribes etc.

    Saying that, a recent poll shows that Matty Damo'

    https://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2058082094
    would likely be well and warmly received by all as POTUS or Ambassador

    He already has a string of pre-made soundbites (e.g. howdoya like these lemons) to deliver to the Chinese during important trade deals etc


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    #91
    dwayneshintzy
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    Celine Immense Hedge wrote: »
    Policy might be more important than personality e.g. booming economies, low unemployment, reduction in wars (or risks of new wars, securing borders, creating a new space force, not being swayed nor bought out by corporate bribes etc.

    Saying that, a recent poll shows that Matty Damo'

    https://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2058082094
    would likely be well and warmly received by all as POTUS or Ambassador

    He already has a string of pre-made soundbites (e.g. howdoya like these lemons) to deliver to the Chinese during important trade deals etc
    Sorry, what's this now?


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