UFC 249 - Ferguson v Gaethje Sat May 9th

mangobob · 10-05-2020 4:34am

Holy mother of Jeebus!

mailburner · 10-05-2020 4:34am

ah well

be careful what you wish for I guess

10-05-2020 4:35am

Fückin hell, scary force and movement.

MrStuffins · 10-05-2020 4:36am

mailburner wrote: »

ah well

be careful what you wish for I guess

Imagine calling out Ngannou!!

MidlanderMan · 10-05-2020 4:38am

Jesus Christ his power is ****ing ridiculous.

mailburner · 10-05-2020 4:41am

MrStuffins wrote: »

Imagine calling out Ngannou!!

after getting lucky against the reem

I admire him for being so brave and confident in his own ability but it was
hard to make a case for him

SlowBlowin · 10-05-2020 4:50am

My internet dropped just as the big punch was connecting, I just had a still frame, but after studying it for 30 seconds I decided it was game over ! He was still down when the stream returned a minute later.

bmcc10 · 10-05-2020 4:55am

It's hard to be more annoying than Cejudo but Albarracin does a good job of it.

sydthebeat · 10-05-2020 4:55am

SlowBlowin wrote: »

My internet dropped just as the big punch was connecting, I just had a still frame, but after studying it for 30 seconds I decided it was game over ! He was still down when the stream returned a minute later.

Most non contest ever

PyreOfHellfire · 10-05-2020 4:57am

I think Rozenstruik is gonna wake up tomorrow thinking his name is Ben Askren.

sydthebeat · 10-05-2020 4:57am

Anyone fancy cruz?

MrStuffins · 10-05-2020 5:02am

Love how the lads are calling Henry "Triple C" :pac:

MidlanderMan · 10-05-2020 5:07am

Dom claiming the Red corner was actually top tier **** housery.

mangobob · 10-05-2020 5:10am

Thats an AWFUL stoppage. FFS.

ricero · 10-05-2020 5:10am

Feck off Rogan thats a fine stoppage.

Dom was done.

MidlanderMan · 10-05-2020 5:11am

Keith Peterson is a terrible ref.

MrStuffins · 10-05-2020 5:11am

mangobob wrote: »

Thats an AWFUL stoppage. FFS.

Thought so at first but after the replay it's a good stoppage.

PyreOfHellfire · 10-05-2020 5:12am

Peterson again sh*tting the bed. Stepping in when Cruz was basically about to stand back up. Seriously...

MidlanderMan · 10-05-2020 5:12am

MrStuffins wrote: »

Thought so at first but after the replay it's a good stoppage.

I think the replay is worse, he stepped in as Dom was standing up...

sydthebeat · 10-05-2020 5:12am

Meh.. He was blocking easy

EagererBeaver · 10-05-2020 5:12am

The lads are talking absolute ****e, that stoppage was absolutely fine.

ricero · 10-05-2020 5:12am

Seriously impressed with Cejudo.

I honestly think he is pound for pound number 1 in the world.

MidlanderMan · 10-05-2020 5:13am

I actually think Cody would **** Henry up.

Henry believes in his hands too much, Cody would tool him up for fun.

EagererBeaver · 10-05-2020 5:13am

It doesn't matter that he was standing up, he was being punched in the face repeatedly and not defending himself.

MidlanderMan · 10-05-2020 5:14am

EagererBeaver wrote: »

It doesn't matter that he was standing up, he was being punched in the face repeatedly and not defending himself.

If he turtled up and instead of trying to get up you'd say the same thing though.

MrStuffins · 10-05-2020 5:14am

sydthebeat wrote: »

Meh.. He was blocking easy

Yeah. Blocking with his face!

mailburner · 10-05-2020 5:15am

not a great stoppage imo

he wasn't out, was in trouble but should have been given a little longer

had herb dean been reffing it wouldnt have been stopped so soon

PyreOfHellfire · 10-05-2020 5:15am

ricero wrote: »

Seriously impressed with Cejudo.

I honestly think he is pound for pound number 1 in the world.

Tomorrow you'll be back to Khabib being pound for pound number 1. :pac:

ricero · 10-05-2020 5:15am

I dont for one minute believe hes retired and neither does Dana by looks of it.

More than likely a power play for more cash.

EagererBeaver · 10-05-2020 5:15am

Absolute lies from Cejudo there.

MidlanderMan · 10-05-2020 5:17am

Dom vs Jose for the vacant title?

sydthebeat · 10-05-2020 5:17am

Ref knew what was coming...

Informed the decision

mangobob · 10-05-2020 5:17am

Dom is right.

MrStuffins · 10-05-2020 5:20am

mangobob wrote: »

Dom is right.

True.

But I also think the ref is right to stop a fight whereby the fighter has been knocked down and has taken 11 unanswered punches to the head, in a turtle position, without an attempt to block any of them.

It's not black and white.

LollipopJimmy · 10-05-2020 5:21am

That was a righteous stoppage for me, I know he was standing back up but far too many shots landing to allow it to continue

MidlanderMan · 10-05-2020 5:21am

MrStuffins wrote: »

True.

But I also think the ref is right to stop a fight whereby the fighter has been knocked down and has taken 11 unanswered punches to the head, in a turtle position, without an attempt to block any of them.

It's not black and white.

He wasn't trutled, he was trying to stand up and was on his fight by the time the ref jumped between them.

MrStuffins · 10-05-2020 5:23am

MidlanderMan wrote: »

He wasn't trutled, he was trying to stand up and was on his fight by the time the ref jumped between them.

Maybe. But he was continuing to get pummeled without an attempt to defend himself.

If you can't see why a ref might stop a fight there, I don't know what to tell you

SlowBlowin · 10-05-2020 5:23am

I think that was an early stoppage, but very close, the fact he scrambled to his feet (nearly) I think the ref should have looked at the next exchange.

Cupatae · 10-05-2020 5:24am

snoopboggybog wrote: »

? Was really looking forward to this fight. Will be fight of the night.

Told ya all someone would be goin to sleep! snoozefest

:D

MidlanderMan · 10-05-2020 5:24am

MrStuffins wrote: »

Maybe. But he was continuing to get pummeled without an attempt to defend himself.

If you can't see why a ref might stop a fight there, I don't know what to tell you

Standing up is defending yourself by imporving your position.

SlowBlowin · 10-05-2020 5:24am

LollipopJimmy wrote: »

That was a righteous stoppage for me, I know he was standing back up but far too many shots landing to allow it to continue

After the knee only the follow up punch landed, nothing after that was very clean or powerful.

Cupatae · 10-05-2020 5:25am

mailburner wrote: »

not a great stoppage imo

he wasn't out, was in trouble but should have been given a little longer

had herb dean been reffing it wouldnt have been stopped so soon

Yeah cant get buried witha knee and drilled with about 11 unanswered punches he cant complain imo.

MrStuffins · 10-05-2020 5:27am

MidlanderMan wrote: »

Standing up is defending yourself by imporving your position.

He was on his hands and knees getting pummeled. Game over!

sydthebeat · 10-05-2020 5:29am

Fergusons in De fifth

MidlanderMan · 10-05-2020 5:29am

MrStuffins wrote: »

He was on his hands and knees getting pummeled. Game over!

He was on his feet when the ref stepped in, the knee and follow up landed clean, everything else was a winged arm punch to the shoulder or neck.

SlowBlowin · 10-05-2020 5:29am

Please, please live up to expectations....

mangobob · 10-05-2020 5:32am

MrStuffins wrote: »

True.

But I also think the ref is right to stop a fight whereby the fighter has been knocked down and has taken 11 unanswered punches to the head, in a turtle position, without an attempt to block any of them.

It's not black and white.

Indeed. The very fact that different people can watch the same event, even after multiple replays, and still disagree on the call shows how subjective it is.

I have sympathy for the ref here because he has a split second to make a call and as you say its not as if a case cannot be made for a stoppage.

But for me it was premature and it was clear that Cruz was not out of it. Simply getting hurt and taking a barrage of shots while you are getting to your feet should not be the signal to stop a fight. We have all seen fighters survive much worse that than and Dom was clearly getting back to his feet. In my view, the fighter has to be clearly out of it with no realistic prospect of being able to continue. Then again I get that the ref has a responsibility toward the fighters safety and well being.

I just feel we need more clarity on what should and should not constitute a stoppage. I dont know what the solution is. Perhaps if refs were had more high level fight experience themselves they would have a better feel for when a fighter is still in the fight and when they need to be saved.

I 100% believe Dom in this case.

boreder · 10-05-2020 5:34am

There was also only 2 seconds left in the round. He should know that too.

sydthebeat · 10-05-2020 5:36am

Already bored

MidlanderMan · 10-05-2020 5:39am

10-9 JG easy,

UFC 249 - Ferguson v Gaethje Sat May 9th

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