Junior Cert 2010: English Paper 2

kevin12345 · 07-06-2010 6:06pm #1

Wednesday June 9th
14:00 - 16:30

All discussion and questions about English Paper 2 goes here!

Good luck!

kevin12345 · 07-06-2010 6:08pm

Just thought I'd make this thread so I could ask a question about paper 2! With the studied drama when was the last time they asked you to discuss a theme (sorry don't have my papers)

Thanks

.SONIC. · 07-06-2010 6:16pm

im brickin it for english paper 2!!!

studied poems, fiction and drama are byfar the worst!!!!

im sorted for poems though, did anyone study dulce et decorum est, it works for practically any question

:)

Closed ac · 07-06-2010 6:19pm

Thanks for the thread Kevin!

Last time it came up was 2002!

kevin12345 · 07-06-2010 6:21pm

DKZ wrote: »

Thanks for the thread Kevin!

Last time it came up was 2002!

no bother!

Thanks so much for that! Just prepared a question on Macbeth for it, actually hoping it does come up

Closed ac · 07-06-2010 6:22pm

kevin12345 wrote: »

no bother!

Thanks so much for that! Just prepared a question on Macbeth for it, actually hoping it does come up

Macbeth for JC?

kevin12345 · 07-06-2010 6:26pm

DKZ wrote: »

Macbeth for JC?

yep...strange alright...my teachers pretty crazy anyway :pac:

WanderingSoul · 07-06-2010 6:32pm

I much prefer Paper 2.

kevin12345 · 07-06-2010 6:33pm

WanderingSoul wrote: »

I much prefer Paper 2.

:eek::pac:

WanderingSoul · 07-06-2010 6:34pm

I find it so much easier!

.SONIC. · 07-06-2010 6:34pm

WanderingSoul wrote: »

I much prefer Paper 2.

if you have prepared you sample answers correctly you should be sorted!!

WanderingSoul · 07-06-2010 6:38pm

.SONIC. wrote: »

if you have prepared you sample answers correctly you should be sorted!!

I don't do it that way.

I don't prepare sample answers really, I just know my material inside out and do it on the day. That works for me because I've gotten A's in the majority of my Paper 2 essays I haven't prepared and high B's for the rest.

Closed ac · 07-06-2010 8:10pm

Paper 2 is easier, but there's just not enough time. I won't get it finished.

WanderingSoul · 07-06-2010 8:13pm

I hope I will. The key really is managing your time, I did practice before and I got it done with maybe 5 minutes left, but that was while I could still write.

decisions · 07-06-2010 8:26pm

anyone got any predictions for the studied fiction and drama Qs??

Closed ac · 07-06-2010 8:27pm

decisions wrote: »

anyone got any predictions for the studied fiction and drama Qs??

I think a question on themes will come up for drama as it hasn't come up for 8 years

Zoticon · 07-06-2010 8:43pm

doesnt character relationships always come up ?

whistlin_boy · 07-06-2010 8:45pm

I much prefer paper 2 because I know my material inside out. I find that the notes on this website tend to help http://www.litcharts.com/

For Paper Two you need to have the techniques involved in your drama, poetry and fiction (be it a novel or a set of short stories) and be able to have them peppered all over your answer. Examiners LOVE that!!!

kevin12345 · 07-06-2010 8:46pm

whistlin_boy wrote: »

I much prefer paper 2 because I know my material inside out. I find that the notes on this website tend to help http://www.litcharts.com/

For Paper Two you need to have the techniques involved in your drama, poetry and fiction (be it a novel or a set of short stories) and be able to have them peppered all over your answer. Examiners LOVE that!!!

what techniques are these :pac:

kevin12345 · 07-06-2010 8:47pm

Zoticon wrote: »

doesnt character relationships always come up ?

no? I think it came up last year...not sure!

whistlin_boy · 07-06-2010 8:53pm

For example in the drama they are looking for people to be able to mention use of syntax, the language and vocabulary of the main characters. For example in the Merchant of Venice if speaking about Shylock you could discuss the fact that the villain the play is also given the two most eloquent speeches (Many a time and oft in the Rialto... and I am a Jew, Hath a Jew not eyes....). Also in the novel symbolism and similes could be discussed.;)

Zoticon · 07-06-2010 9:05pm

whistlin_boy wrote: »

For example in the drama they are looking for people to be able to mention use of syntax, the language and vocabulary of the main characters. For example in the Merchant of Venice if speaking about Shylock you could discuss the fact that the villain the play is also given the two most eloquent speeches (Many a time and oft in the Rialto... and I am a Jew, Hath a Jew not eyes....). Also in the novel symbolism and similes could be discussed.;)

u r so getting an A:D
i have no idea what u just said

whistlin_boy · 07-06-2010 9:24pm

Zoticon wrote: »

u r so getting an A:D
i have no idea what u just said

Unfortunately, no.

I can't write an essay to save my life:mad:

whistlin_boy · 07-06-2010 9:27pm

Syntax is the flow of the piece, usually put through length of sentences

:D;)

pauammon · 07-06-2010 9:54pm

How long should your studied Play,Poetry and Fiction questions be??
My teacher said 3-4 A4 pages but I just cant write that in 30 minutes.

kevin12345 · 07-06-2010 9:55pm

pauammon wrote: »

How long should your studied Play,Poetry and Fiction questions be??
My teacher said 3-4 A4 pages but I just cant write that in 30 minutes.

i think its 3/4 of a page to 1 page for 15 marks? could be rong? so maybe 2 or 2 and a half pages should do

whistlin_boy · 07-06-2010 10:08pm

maybe its 2 and a half or three pages in total because it would be impossible to write more than 2 pages for the whole question in the time given (25 minutes)

pauammon · 07-06-2010 10:18pm

Thank Jesus himself I was really nervous Ill aim for 2 a4 It will be fine

Luno · 07-06-2010 10:19pm

whistlin_boy wrote: »

maybe its 2 and a half or three pages in total because it would be impossible to write more than 2 pages for the whole question in the time given (25 minutes)

Impossible is nothing!

whistlin_boy · 07-06-2010 10:23pm

M&S* wrote: »

Impossible is nothing!

Quoting YouTube videos won't help you on Wednesday!!

Luno · 07-06-2010 10:36pm

whistlin_boy wrote: »

Quoting YouTube videos won't help you on Wednesday!!

Wanna bet? :P

whistlin_boy · 07-06-2010 10:41pm

M&S* wrote: »

Wanna bet? :P

You never know like in last years business paper 16 marks were given for drawing!

Tommyrawr · 07-06-2010 10:41pm

maybe internet might come up for media studies or functional writing. if it does im well sorted

Tommyrawr · 07-06-2010 10:43pm

whistlin_boy wrote: »

You never know like in last years business paper 16 marks were given for drawing!

=O what question?Paper 1 or two? im hoping for a miracle like that this year.

Closed ac · 07-06-2010 10:44pm

Tommyrawr wrote: »

=O what question?Paper 1 or two? im hoping for a miracle like that this year.

Paper 2 - Marketing.

Colm! · 07-06-2010 10:50pm

Tommyrawr wrote: »

maybe internet might come up for media studies or functional writing. if it does im well sorted

35/40 for media studies since the mocks because I got Internet. Here's hoping

Tommyrawr · 07-06-2010 10:52pm

ooh nice i be bringing in my colours with me =]
sorry for going off topic =/

Luno · 07-06-2010 10:53pm

whistlin_boy wrote: »

You never know like in last years business paper 16 marks were given for drawing!

99% of the marks in a tech graph exam are given for drawing yet I'm still screwed!

Tommyrawr · 07-06-2010 10:55pm

Colm! wrote: »

35/40 for media studies since the mocks because I got Internet. Here's hoping

hehe im gonna post my reply in paper 1 section ive gone off topic too much on this thread

em anyone have any ideas for the poetry section like Question on theme or its topic?

Kyromancer · 07-06-2010 11:31pm

How long should your answer be? As long as it takes you to answer the question fully, and get all your points across. Remember, quality over quantity.

meagher43 · 08-06-2010 11:58am

.SONIC. wrote: »

im brickin it for english paper 2!!!

studied poems, fiction and drama are byfar the worst!!!!

im sorted for poems though, did anyone study dulce et decorum est, it works for practically any question :)

can i please have a prepared anwser for poems

Blue_Seas · 08-06-2010 12:10pm

DKZ wrote: »

I think a question on themes will come up for drama as it hasn't come up for 8 years

Well in 2007 for the studied drama it asked what's the "main idea and/or message" which is KIND of the theme...
:pac: Okay maybe I'm just trying to convince myself that it won't come up. The only theme I can write about for the Merchant of Venice is "conflict" and I don't know if it's broad enough ._.

Good luck to everyone though

I couldn't sleep last night so I'll be taking those allergy meds to get me out tonight!

Closed ac · 08-06-2010 12:11pm

Blue_Seas wrote: »

Well in 2007 for the studied drama it asked what's the "main idea and/or message" which is KIND of the theme...
:pac: Okay maybe I'm just trying to convince myself that it won't come up. The only theme I can write about for the Merchant of Venice is "conflict" and I don't know if it's broad enough ._.

Good luck to everyone though I couldn't sleep last night so I'll be taking those allergy meds to get me out tonight!

Revenge & discrimination are also themes you could write about. To be honest, with the theme of conflict you could write loads:

1. Why Antonio & Shylock hate each other
2. How they became involved in conflict
3. The court-room scene
4. The ending
5. Summary & conclusion

Blue_Seas · 08-06-2010 1:24pm

DKZ wrote: »

Revenge & discrimination are also themes you could write about. To be honest, with the theme of conflict you could write loads:

1. Why Antonio & Shylock hate each other
2. How they became involved in conflict
3. The court-room scene
4. The ending
5. Summary & conclusion

I have all that except 4. Let's just hope I can remember it on the day!

I have an insanely strict English teacher but by God we're prepared for this exam. I can bend any answer to my will now and every time I end up writing about Antonio and Shylock and the court-room scene

94% in the mocks and I'll be teased relentlessly if I don't get close to it or higher ._.
No pressure or anything :pac:

Winnel · 08-06-2010 2:11pm

Anyone have any idea on the order that's best to do the paper like studied first ? What are ye all doing? I was wondering which unseen drama is better to answer the Shakespeare or the modern?

Kyromancer · 08-06-2010 2:14pm

Winnel wrote: »

Anyone have any idea on the order that's best to do the paper like studied first ? What are ye all doing? I was wondering which unseen drama is better to answer the Shakespeare or the modern?

There is no set order in which you should do the questions. I'd recommend starting with the questions you're most confident with, and working your way through them like that. When you're feeling confident, you'll remember more.

Edit: Actually, I think you should attempt all the studied sections first, as you should have them fresh in your mind, and you might forget bits if you leave it until last.

But, what do I know? I'm only in second year. I'm just guessing...

decisions · 08-06-2010 2:18pm

Winnel wrote: »

Anyone have any idea on the order that's best to do the paper like studied first ? What are ye all doing? I was wondering which unseen drama is better to answer the Shakespeare or the modern?

Im answering all the studied first then unseen fiction then Shakespear unseen and poetry last because I HATE POETRY:pac:

decisions · 08-06-2010 2:33pm

Do you think I will be ok with what i know?
Novel: Character, Relationship, Why I like it
Play: Character, Relationship, Important scene
Poem: 2 with similar theme, Poet I like

Kyromancer · 08-06-2010 2:42pm

decisions wrote: »

Do you think I will be ok with what i know?
Novel: Character, Relationship, Why I like it

I think you should prepare a thematic question for your novel as well, just as backup.

kevin12345 · 08-06-2010 2:44pm

Kyromancer wrote: »

I think you should prepare a thematic question for your novel as well, just as backup.

Theme q came up last year doubt it's likely to come up again, maybe it will?

CookieMonster.x · 08-06-2010 2:54pm

Does anyone have any predictions for paper 2 the studied parts especially poetry?
I really hope a poem you like comes up, Stopping By Woods on a Snowy Evening is the only one I know really well, and then techniques.
I have:
Dulce et Decorum Est but it's only really technique. We never studied it in school
Stopping By Woods on a Snowy Evening. Would lvoe if this came up.
The Lake Isle of Innisfree - trying to learn it now but really amn't confident with it.
But You Didn't - didn't do it in school but have notes on it. It's a war poem, should I bother learning it?

Looking through the poems I should know, I only know 1... :eek:
Would you say I'd be alright with knowing these? Does anyone have any idea what might come up in poetry?

Thanks a million if anyone replies! Good luck to everyone btw.

Junior Cert 2010: English Paper 2

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