Lolek Ltd, Trading as 'The Iona Institute'

Bannasidhe · 23-05-2016 11:08am

Timberrrrrrrr wrote: »

Don't you know you can pray the gay away? #ionaknowsbest

I have often prayed that the gay irritating me in the gay bar goes away but they never ever do.

lazygal · 23-05-2016 12:13pm

I've been waiting a year for two gay men to take my kids. When should I expect to be able to offload them?

Lurkio · 23-05-2016 9:47pm

lazygal wrote: »

I've been waiting a year for two gay men to take my kids. When should I expect to be able to offload them?

Well more gays are coming out being created since the marriage referendum to combat the backlog but it still may be some time, according to Liberal Agenda HQ anyway.

Cabaal · 24-05-2016 7:49am

lazygal wrote: »

What are the many good things Iona does?

They take care of everything for you...making all the decisions for you.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Di2PPNcxGaw

Lurkio · 24-05-2016 12:08pm

Cabaal wrote: »

They take care of everything for you...making all the decisions for you.

Freed from the burden of choice.

recedite · 05-07-2016 11:57pm

http://cf.broadsheet.ie/wp-content/uploads/2016/07/CmMIoGvXIAAO6Ew.jpg

"Nobody likes what we do, but we still need your money. Look... my pockets are completely empty "

Fred Swanson · 05-07-2016 11:59pm

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TheChizler · 06-07-2016 12:36am

Funny how Ray D'Arcy not liking him is given as a reason to donate.

Hotblack Desiato · 06-07-2016 9:21am

recedite wrote: »

I believe in the place of religion all right, and keeping it firmly within there

2RockMountain · 06-07-2016 10:59am

Cheque or postal order in pounds or euro

I guess they know their market then - no Paypal or bitcoin for Iona supporters. But if they are accepting foreign currency donations, shouldn't they be make sure that these come from Irish citizens, to comply with SIPO rules?

Pherekydes · 06-07-2016 11:01am

TheChizler wrote: »

Funny how Ray D'Arcy not liking him is given as a reason to donate.

I hope he claims a fee. :pac:

recedite · 06-07-2016 4:12pm

Fred Swanson wrote: »

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Receipts are embossed on individual plaques made of 18 carat gold, which you will receive in the afterlife.

expectationlost · 08-07-2016 8:04pm

their company returns are available, the daily mail had an article on how much they spent but i forgot to save it

alan partridge aha · 08-07-2016 8:27pm

TheChizler wrote: »

Funny how Ray D'Arcy not liking him is given as a reason to donate.

Because Darcy is an arrogant pr1ck, cr*p broadcaster and so biased in his views. There is a few reasons for starters.

Giacomo McGubbin · 14-07-2016 11:56pm

Actually I'd be tempted to donate if the likes of Ray D'arcy doesn't like em.

Cabaal · 22-07-2016 6:52pm

If I send them a 1c cheque who ends up paying the most, me or them

Hotblack Desiato · 22-07-2016 7:10pm

If you post it, you. If you drop it into their letterbox when you're passing, them

recedite · 23-07-2016 11:48am

David Quinn ponders the possibility of a United Ireland. And time travel.
On the one hand, an influx of socially conservative TDs into the Dail.
On the other hand, they don't like Roman Catholics.
Hmmm....

robindch · 21-02-2017 7:47pm

The Black Oil wrote: »

Desmond Connell is one of those names I'll forever associate with the awfulness reported on (and the response) in the last decade.

Michael Nugent wrote: »

How can we believe, without corroboration, anything that members of the Irish Catholic Hierarchy say in cases where it is in their interest to mislead us? That is surely the central question that arises from the Cloyne Report, especially when seen alongside the previous revelation that Archbishop Desmond Connell of Dublin was happy to deliberately mislead people by a process that he described as ‘mental reservation’.

As Michael points out, Connell introduced the nation to the idea of "mental reservation" - a technique whereby catholics allow themselves to lie with a clean conscience. That phrase may be his lasting contribution to the country. He died last night, having - like so many of his confreres - successfully avoided prosecution for his involvement in, or covering up for, child abuse in Ireland.

https://www.rte.ie/news/2017/0221/854179-cardinal-desmond-connell-died/

robindch · 23-04-2017 10:48pm

Two fun articles here:

1. Breda O'Brien, closely linked with Lolek Limited, uses the Irish Times to document her significant worry that foreign funding from named individuals might "buy undemocratic influence":

http://www.irishtimes.com/opinion/breda-o-brien-foreign-funding-buys-undemocratic-influence-1.3056989

2. Lolek Limited files its accounts with Companies Office which indicate that it has cash reserves of over EUR300k and received donations totalling EUR273,000 last year. The source of these donations is not specified either in the filing or in any other public place.

http://www.irishtimes.com/news/social-affairs/religion-and-beliefs/iona-institute-company-got-275-000-in-donations-last-year-1.3058193

MrPudding · 23-04-2017 11:01pm

robindch wrote: »

Two fun articles here:

1. Breda O'Brien, closely linked with Lolek Limited, uses the Irish Times to document her significant worry that foreign funding from named individuals might "buy undemocratic influence":

http://www.irishtimes.com/opinion/breda-o-brien-foreign-funding-buys-undemocratic-influence-1.3056989

2. Lolek Limited files its accounts with Companies Office which indicate that it has cash reserves of over EUR300k and received donations totalling EUR273,000 last year. The source of these donations is not specified either in the filing or in any other public place.

http://www.irishtimes.com/news/social-affairs/religion-and-beliefs/iona-institute-company-got-275-000-in-donations-last-year-1.3058193

Ok. I'll put my hand up. I made several €0.01 donations last year. Not sure about the rest of it though...

MrP

Fred Swanson · 23-04-2017 11:07pm

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Peregrinus · 24-04-2017 2:38am

Fred Swanson wrote: »

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"Director" has a well-established legal meaning. "Patron" does not.

At a wild guess, the "patrons" listed on Iona's website are all people who support Iona, either financially (e.g. Jimmy Sheehan) or by writing or speaking on behalf of Iona (Breda O'Brien) or by networking with other church groups (Ken Clarke) or by doing more than one of these things (Vincent Twomey). Odds are they are not paid for what they do, which is why they get called "patrons".

David Quinn is described as "Director" of the Institute on the website, but from the Irish Times isn't listed as a company director of Lolek. My guess is that he's a director in the sense of general manager, that he's employed (and paid) for that purpose, that his appointment was made by the real directors and that he reports to them.

recedite · 24-04-2017 10:18pm

Peregrinus wrote: »

David Quinn is described as "Director" of the Institute on the website, but from the Irish Times isn't listed as a company director of Lolek. My guess is that he's a director in the sense of general manager, that he's employed (and paid) for that purpose, that his appointment was made by the real directors and that he reports to them.

If you click on the link at the bottom of the page as already linked to, it takes you to another page showing the real directors.
But I can't see any link there to take you to the page showing the real patrons, ie those who stump up the money

lazygal · 24-06-2019 9:24pm

https://m.independent.ie/irish-news/iona-spent-500000-during-year-of-repeal-referendum-38246015.html

Lolek Ltd spent half a million euro to campaign against health care last year.
In a shocking turn of events, David Quinn had nothing to say about this.

Hotblack Desiato · 24-06-2019 10:08pm

Any chance of some transparency about where all of this money is coming from??

Bannasidhe · 24-06-2019 10:33pm

Hotblack Desiato wrote: »

Any chance of some transparency about where all of this money is coming from??

bout the same odds as me being "Born Again" :pac:

Hotblack Desiato · 25-06-2019 12:28am

There's no point in having SIPO if this so-called charity can blow a half million from unknown sources, possibly foreign, to try to influence a vote.

Didn't recall ever seeing or hearing about posters from Iona themselves - so were they bankrolling Save 8th or the other lot?

All very murky and not at all good for our politics.

The Black Oil · 28-06-2019 12:33pm

If they were obliged to be more transparent you can be sure they'd play the persecution card fairly sharp ish.

robindch · 04-10-2019 4:19pm

More legal action from the good folk at Lolek Limited:

Iona Institute academic seeks to sue woman for defamation over tweets
Dr Angelo Bottone says posts wrongly accuse him of aiding man convicted of murdering abortion doctor

https://www.irishtimes.com/news/crime-and-law/courts/high-court/iona-institute-academic-seeks-to-sue-woman-for-defamation-over-tweets-1.4035214

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Hotblack Desiato · 01-04-2020 9:08pm

NUI graduates have excelled themselves again :rolleyes:

https://www.irishtimes.com/news/politics/seanad-elections-michael-mcdowell-re-elected-after-r%C3%B3n%C3%A1n-mullen-tops-nui-poll-1.4217616

Mr Mullen, a long-time anti-abortion campaigner, is the first NUI Senator in recent memory to win a seat on the first count.

alan partridge aha · 01-04-2020 9:09pm

Hotblack Desiato wrote: »

NUI graduates have excelled themselves again :rolleyes:

https://www.irishtimes.com/news/politics/seanad-elections-michael-mcdowell-re-elected-after-r%C3%B3n%C3%A1n-mullen-tops-nui-poll-1.4217616

Great we are a diverse society

ohnonotgmail · 01-04-2020 9:16pm

Hotblack Desiato wrote: »

NUI graduates have excelled themselves again :rolleyes:

https://www.irishtimes.com/news/politics/seanad-elections-michael-mcdowell-re-elected-after-r%C3%B3n%C3%A1n-mullen-tops-nui-poll-1.4217616

It is at times like this that i am especially grateful I chose Trinity.

robindch · 02-04-2020 1:51am

alan partridge aha wrote: »

Hotblack Desiato wrote: »

NUI graduates have excelled themselves again :rolleyes:

Great we are a diverse society

The remit of democracy might well be diversified by electing the pompous, the fatuous and the intolerant but I'm not sure it's improved by doing so.

endacl · 02-04-2020 2:03am

I can vote for both the NUI and Trinity panels. At least according to the literature and ballots I was getting through the door. I only voted against the Mullins. I presume I ‘should’ only vote for one, but the question has only occurred to me now. Would it have been legal to vote in both? Morally, I’d be a bit iffy, but legally? Have I two votes?

Peregrinus · 02-04-2020 2:07am

endacl wrote: »

I can vote for both the NUI and Trinity panels. At least according to the literature and ballots I was getting through the door. I only voted against the Mullins. I presume I ‘should’ only vote for one, but the question has only occurred to me now. Would it have been legal to vote in both? Morally, I’d be a bit iffy, but legally? Have I two votes?

Yes, you do, if you're a graduate of both universities, you brainy chap, you! And if you were also a county councillor you would have several more votes - one in each of the various vocational panels.

alan partridge aha · 02-04-2020 7:27am

robindch wrote: »

The remit of democracy might well be diversified by electing the pompous, the fatuous and the intolerant but I'm not sure it's improved by doing so.

Suppose you could be right, I often find the people who profess to be the most tolerant are anything but.

robindch · 02-04-2020 10:06am

alan partridge aha wrote: »

Suppose you could be right, I often find the people who profess to be the most tolerant are anything but.

You'll have to point out who's lecturing people on how tolerant they are - since I can't immediately think of too many people. Or at least, ones who should be taken seriously anyway.

But your general point is correct - people who lecture the world on the excellence of their own qualities usually lack those same qualities most abundantly - the prerogative of the malignant narcissist. One needs to listen no further than the RCC talking about "love", or the current occupant of the White House talking about just about anything.

ohnonotgmail · 02-04-2020 10:17am

alan partridge aha wrote: »

Suppose you could be right, I often find the people who profess to be the most tolerant are anything but.

perhaps you should familiarise yourself with this
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paradox_of_tolerance

Hotblack Desiato · 02-04-2020 1:03pm

The point isn't that this goon got elected. It's that he topped the poll while being in all probability highly unrepresentative of the views of NUI graduates as a whole. So the majority don't bother their hole voting, leaving the field open for the ex-Maynooth priests to swing the vote... There was a campaign to get NUI graduates to register and vote, it didn't work. Fúck 'em. Trinity have always elected high quality candidates, the NUI panel has always had its share of toothless FF types...

Bannasidhe · 02-04-2020 1:19pm

Hotblack Desiato wrote: »

The point isn't that this goon got elected. It's that he topped the poll while being in all probability highly unrepresentative of the views of NUI graduates as a whole. So the majority don't bother their hole voting, leaving the field open for the ex-Maynooth priests to swing the vote... There was a campaign to get NUI graduates to register and vote, it didn't work. Fúck 'em. Trinity have always elected high quality candidates, the NUI panel has always had its share of toothless FF types...

I never got my ballot paper. :mad:
Shed load of vote for me bumf arrived so I am definitely on the register.

Hotblack Desiato · 02-04-2020 1:26pm

That's pretty bad. It's a registered letter. I suppose that €5k I sent for your birthday never arrived either!

robindch · 02-09-2020 11:28pm

Out of the blue, Bishop Quinn suddenly disagrees with somebody getting a job because of their sex:

https://twitter.com/DavQuinn/status/1301086344920403969

02-09-2020 11:34pm

robindch wrote: »

Out of the blue, Bishop Quinn suddenly disagrees with somebody getting a job because of their sex:

https://twitter.com/DavQuinn/status/1301086344920403969

Not in a least bit out of character for him

Hotblack Desiato · 03-09-2020 4:19am

Of course it's been pointed out that the RCC is a firm believer in gender quotas... wouldn't be like not-so-super-Quinn to be an aul' hypocrite, now, would it?

robindch · 29-06-2021 8:38am

In reports which should surprise nobody, it seems that cash from hardline conservative international billionaires has been funnelled, via Russian and Azerbaijan, to a range of hardline "catholic" and/or anti-lgbt/trans campaigning organizations, including the "Iona Institute".

The twitter link contains links to a number of reports, including 'Chivalry Summer Camps' in Ireland (which I don't recall appearing here before) and which are advertized as being for 'boys between 12 and 18'.

https://twitter.com/soundmigration/status/1409564791019028485
https://www.epfweb.org/sites/default/files/2021-01/EPF%20TFP_EN_Oct30_0.pdf

https://www.isfcc.org/summer-camps

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PBDIuJa5LcI

Christy42 · 29-06-2021 8:57am

robindch wrote: »

In reports which should surprise nobody, it seems that cash from hardline conservative international billionaires has been funnelled, via Russian and Azerbaijan, to a range of hardline "catholic" and/or anti-lgbt/trans campaigning organizations, including the "Iona Institute".

The twitter link contains links to a number of reports, including 'Chivalry Summer Camps' in Ireland (which I don't recall appearing here before) and which are advertized as being for 'boys between 12 and 18'.

https://twitter.com/soundmigration/status/1409564791019028485
https://www.epfweb.org/sites/default/files/2021-01/EPF%20TFP_EN_Oct30_0.pdf

https://www.isfcc.org/summer-camps

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PBDIuJa5LcI

Can you imagine the disappointment that would be going to a chivalry camp and not getting to go jousting.

Weren't they questionable about their funding during referendums as well?

Peregrinus · 29-06-2021 9:02am

I feel that as long as they're spending the money on "chivalry summer camps", our liberties are probably fairly safe.

ohnonotgmail · 29-06-2021 9:09am

Peregrinus wrote: »

I feel that as long as they're spending the money on "chivalry summer camps", our liberties are probably fairly safe.

they spent their money campaigning against every referendum in recent memory, spreading any number of lies in the process. I'm not sure I share your blasé attitude towards them.

JustAThought · 29-06-2021 9:19am

What language was that in the video???? Is that in Poland? Was that a Dublin GAA chequered flag flown or some medieval yoke?

Lolek Ltd, Trading as 'The Iona Institute'

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