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Slattsy · 09-01-2019 10:53pm

That's a ****ing time saver and a half. What a time to be alive.

Gringo180 · 09-01-2019 11:04pm

Slattsy wrote: »

That's a ****ing time saver and a half. What a time to be alive.

Beautiful work

Shemale · 10-01-2019 1:17am

At the risk of blowing your minds, you can search for a horse on B365 desktop for at least 2 years now..

Gringo180 · 10-01-2019 7:57am

Shemale wrote: »

At the risk of blowing your minds, you can search for a horse on B365 desktop for at least 2 years now..

Never even seen the search function or even thought of looking for one.

Shemale · 10-01-2019 1:10pm

Gringo180 wrote: »

Never even seen the search function or even thought of looking for one.

Click Horse Racing on the left hand panel, when racing opens there is a magnifying glass on the right hand side in the black bar just below balance / the time.

I used it a lot when ante post betting and when I saw the horse in 5 races thought **** that.

Earendil · 11-01-2019 12:10pm

ASOT wrote: »

If you use your phone you can enter the horses name in the new search function and it brings up all it's race entries and prices which I think is fairly handy. You can click directly into the race also.

Life changing!

That's going to cost me a fortune :pac:

Luap · 11-01-2019 3:28pm

Its a simple swipe of the bet365 logo on the main page to one side to open up the search option.

madmoose · 11-01-2019 5:29pm

Been topping up the 33/1 for Coo Star Sivola for the Ultima which he won last season and has been gradually been slipping down to the same mark. Doubt he will be that price if he makes the race i’d assume 12/1 or less.

Slattsy · 11-01-2019 6:22pm

Luap wrote: »

Its a simple swipe of the bet365 logo on the main page to one side to open up the search option.

Another game changer. Technology these days.

Massimo Tara · 11-01-2019 10:26pm

City island at 25/1 seems like a big price for the supreme to me. Nothing shouting out at me looking at the horses ahead of him in the market

Motivator · 11-01-2019 11:35pm

Anyone have an opinion on the Supreme? I like Quick Grabim and the form stacks up with Aramon. One whose form ties in with both of them is Triplicate. He went off Fav for that Novice Hurdle at Christmas and ran stink. Forgive that run and he’s no 66/1 shot for the Supreme. I think a big field and a fast pace in March would suit him down to the ground. If he runs in Leopardstown in 3 weeks and goes well then his price will tumble big time, if he runs badly again then chances are he won’t go to the Festival and at 66/1 I’ll be taking a chance on him.

NaiveMelodies · 12-01-2019 12:00am

I think Espoir D'allen in the Champion Hurdle at 25s NRNB could be pretty good value.
Won't run unless they really fancy him to handle the step up and if he does his chances surely aren't too far off Laurinas on all known form.
If you're looking for an unexposed angle into the race, Espoir D surely represents better value.

FatRat · 12-01-2019 12:10am

Un temps pour tout - The 3-time Ultima winner after this year's festival. What a feat.

madmoose · 12-01-2019 12:36am

NaiveMelodies wrote: »

I think Espoir D'allen in the Champion Hurdle at 25s NRNB could be pretty good value.
Won't run unless they really fancy him to handle the step up and if he does his chances surely aren't too far off Laurinas on all known form.
If you're looking for an unexposed angle into the race, Espoir D surely represents better value.

They said next year but he’s got to be given a go in a muddling year surely?

Gringo180 · 12-01-2019 8:38am

Motivator wrote: »

Anyone have an opinion on the Supreme? I like Quick Grabim and the form stacks up with Aramon. One whose form ties in with both of them is Triplicate. He went off Fav for that Novice Hurdle at Christmas and ran stink. Forgive that run and he’s no 66/1 shot for the Supreme. I think a big field and a fast pace in March would suit him down to the ground. If he runs in Leopardstown in 3 weeks and goes well then his price will tumble big time, if he runs badly again then chances are he won’t go to the Festival and at 66/1 I’ll be taking a chance on him.

I was at that meeting Triplicate didnt look right in the run in.

JagoMoon · 12-01-2019 9:42am

Motivator wrote: »

Anyone have an opinion on the Supreme? I like Quick Grabim and the form stacks up with Aramon. One whose form ties in with both of them is Triplicate. He went off Fav for that Novice Hurdle at Christmas and ran stink. Forgive that run and he’s no 66/1 shot for the Supreme. I think a big field and a fast pace in March would suit him down to the ground. If he runs in Leopardstown in 3 weeks and goes well then his price will tumble big time, if he runs badly again then chances are he won’t go to the Festival and at 66/1 I’ll be taking a chance on him.

No strong opinion at the moment but I actually backed one yesterday. Purely from a price point of view Itchy Feet should not be 40s based on his form with Elixir De Nutz and Grand Saucy. Olly Murphy has recently said that the Supreme is the aim.

RivetingRoger · 12-01-2019 10:41am

NaiveMelodies wrote: »

I think Espoir D'allen in the Champion Hurdle at 25s NRNB could be pretty good value.
Won't run unless they really fancy him to handle the step up and if he does his chances surely aren't too far off Laurinas on all known form.
If you're looking for an unexposed angle into the race, Espoir D surely represents better value.

Love espoir and his run in limerick over christmas showed a turn of foot I didn't think he had, but cant have him for the CH....cant see him running in it anyways
Cant see that one atall

RivetingRoger · 12-01-2019 10:44am

Motivator wrote: »

Anyone have an opinion on the Supreme? I like Quick Grabim and the form stacks up with Aramon. One whose form ties in with both of them is Triplicate. He went off Fav for that Novice Hurdle at Christmas and ran stink. Forgive that run and he’s no 66/1 shot for the Supreme. I think a big field and a fast pace in March would suit him down to the ground. If he runs in Leopardstown in 3 weeks and goes well then his price will tumble big time, if he runs badly again then chances are he won’t go to the Festival and at 66/1 I’ll be taking a chance on him.

Da Nutz has to come into thinking here. People almost scoff at the idea but the horse knows how to win, and its hardly an exciting crop this year is it!
Jumps like a stag, makes ground at each hurdle, just his cruising speed probably isn't that of others. However, in cheltenham, in a novice race like this, gimme a horse than CAN jump anyday over a horse with speed and suspect jumping.
He refuses to be headed and the last furlong could be right up his street. If he jumps the last in front I cant see him bet

RivetingRoger · 12-01-2019 11:51am

PP went NRNB on all races on 1/10/18
Anyone any idea when they plan to do same this year?

HarshOstrich · 12-01-2019 12:24pm

NaiveMelodies wrote: »

I think Espoir D'allen in the Champion Hurdle at 25s NRNB could be pretty good value.
Won't run unless they really fancy him to handle the step up and if he does his chances surely aren't too far off Laurinas on all known form.
If you're looking for an unexposed angle into the race, Espoir D surely represents better value.

Really like him but need to see him beat a decent seasoned hurdler to really know where he stands, beating last years triumph horses doesn’t tell us enough as they are usually rubbish the following year, I think he’s ready for the step up myself.

NaiveMelodies · 12-01-2019 1:17pm

HarshOstrich wrote: »

Really like him but need to see him beat a decent seasoned hurdler to really know where he stands, beating last years triumph horses doesn’t tell us enough as they are usually rubbish the following year, I think he’s ready for the step up myself.

Yeah for sure and tis very unlikely they'd give him that first shot in open company at the festival, but maybe he'll go Leop in Feb.

Satoshi currently 66s for the Pertemps which I'm pretty sure he's qualified for. I can't see him not being targetted for that so worth backing before he potentially hoses up today.

RivetingRoger · 12-01-2019 2:56pm

Did me nuts on the nutz in the supreme just now........
well...not really.

fiver at 12/1

zpehtsfd · 12-01-2019 3:03pm

Ok Corral very impressive. Natural jumper, lots of pace and stamina to boot. Everyone saying National Hunt Chase but can't rule out RSA on that showing. Lump on job if he turns up in the former. imo

RivetingRoger · 12-01-2019 3:38pm

zpehtsfd wrote: »

Ok Corral very impressive. Natural jumper, lots of pace and stamina to boot. Everyone saying National Hunt Chase but can't rule out RSA on that showing. Lump on job if he turns up in the former. imo

3/1 atm

zpehtsfd · 12-01-2019 3:57pm

RivetingRoger wrote: »

3/1 atm

Bookies running for cover already.

Not a big fan of backing short priced novices (especially over fences for 4 miles) but if he's 3/1 on the day i'll be lumping on. Probably be 2/1 or less though. He'll be close to being the highest rated horse to run in it, in recent times, if my memory serves me correctly. Thinking 153+ after today.

RivetingRoger · 12-01-2019 4:31pm

3/1 seems very short when you consider impulsive star is 12/1 and NM has said thats its race......very impressive today

supremenovice · 12-01-2019 5:23pm

I really liked how Black Corton stayed on in Top Notches race at Kempton this afternoon. I was thinking Nicholls will stick with Clan des Obeaux for the Gold Cup and might drop Black Corton into the Ryanair but surprisingly he's not entered.
Any idea what will his plan be going forward?

EICVD · 12-01-2019 6:02pm

NaiveMelodies wrote: »

Yeah for sure and tis very unlikely they'd give him that first shot in open company at the festival, but maybe he'll go Leop in Feb.

Satoshi currently 66s for the Pertemps which I'm pretty sure he's qualified for. I can't see him not being targetted for that so worth backing before he potentially hoses up today.

If Espoir D’Alen does go to Leopardstown he’ll need to be supplemented as he wasn’t initially entered in the Champion. Think a race at Naas was mentioned next for him

Gringo180 · 12-01-2019 8:32pm

supremenovice wrote: »

I really liked how Black Corton stayed on in Top Notches race at Kempton this afternoon. I was thinking Nicholls will stick with Clan des Obeaux for the Gold Cup and might drop Black Corton into the Ryanair but surprisingly he's not entered.
Any idea what will his plan be going forward?

He was only out for a spin today imo and still ran on extremely well. Could go well in one of the big handicap chases off a lofty weight. Hes a game horse.

RivetingRoger · 12-01-2019 9:49pm

Charlie Swan on rte saying he expects Le Richbourg in Arkle and Defil in JLT.

famagusta · 12-01-2019 11:08pm

RivetingRoger wrote:

Charlie Swan on rte saying he expects Le Richbourg in Arkle and Defil in JLT.

I actually think the arkle suits them both the best, if the ground is good I will have a right cut at le richbourg

Edgware · 12-01-2019 11:32pm

Any views on Thistlecrack for the Gold Cup? 12/1

NaiveMelodies · 12-01-2019 11:36pm

Edgware wrote: »

Any views on Thistlecrack for the Gold Cup? 12/1

Would love it but sure to be out stayed in my opinion.

RivetingRoger · 13-01-2019 12:33pm

Edgware wrote: »

Any views on Thistlecrack for the Gold Cup? 12/1

Have him backed

Edgware · 13-01-2019 7:46pm

NaiveMelodies wrote: »

Would love it but sure to be out stayed in my opinion.

I know. Disappointed with King George performance though finishing 2nd. Still has to be in the 3 or 4 mentioned for March

Gringo180 · 13-01-2019 8:46pm

Clan des obeaux 8/1 for the Gold Cup. Value in that. He won that King George with a bit in hand imo. Was no fluke either. Himself and The Storyteller I like.

HarshOstrich · 13-01-2019 9:06pm

Gringo180 wrote: »

Clan des obeaux 8/1 for the Gold Cup. Value in that. He won that King George with a bit in hand imo. Was no fluke either. Himself and The Storyteller I like.

Come on the story teller has no chance

The Mig · 13-01-2019 9:28pm

Wouldn’t back Clan for the GC @ 8/1 with stolen cash

longshotvalue · 13-01-2019 9:55pm

Edgware wrote: »

Any views on Thistlecrack for the Gold Cup? 12/1

If the ground is good, and clan des obeaux doesnt act around there , it's hard to see any of the king George field turning the tables . He beat everything else easily enough . Looks more of an 8/1 shot to me , but I'd never back ew antepost .

Gringo180 · 13-01-2019 10:01pm

HarshOstrich wrote: »

Come on the story teller has no chance

Wouldnt be the biggest shock in the world. He was only out for a spin at Leopardstown the last day imo and wasnt beaten far, Davey went easy on him strangely until he had no chance and only got stuck in a furlong out.

Joe_ Public · 13-01-2019 10:02pm

I’d be more concerned about Thistlecracks jumping than his stamina, has never looked a natural to me and think you’d have to be a special horse to win a GC fiddling your way around the course. I’d definitely be very keen on him at that price otherwise, still see him being placed.

Gringo180 · 13-01-2019 10:04pm

The Mig wrote: »

Wouldn’t back Clan for the GC @ 8/1 with stolen cash

Why? King George winner and his chase form @ the course reads 22?

Angliru · 13-01-2019 10:32pm

Thistlecrack was a fantastic jumper up until his injuries/hiatus, some of his jumps in his KG win were jaw dropping. His jumping at Haydock was horrible but came on well in the King George again. Signs are good. Thistlecrack is my favourite horse so I'd have to back him regardless but 12/1 is a solid price. Only concern is whether he gets injured between then and now. Brittle enough horse for a horse built like a sh*t house.

RivetingRoger · 13-01-2019 10:43pm

Angliru wrote: »

Thistlecrack was a fantastic jumper up until his injuries/hiatus, some of his jumps in his KG win were jaw dropping. His jumping at Haydock was horrible but came on well in the King George again. Signs are good. Thistlecrack is my favourite horse so I'd have to back him regardless but 12/1 is a solid price. Only concern is whether he gets injured between then and now. Brittle enough horse for a horse built like a sh*t house.

Won't be seen tIll March now so should get there. Glad I took 12 as I can see him going off around 6 or 7/1

Joe_ Public · 13-01-2019 10:57pm

Angliru wrote: »

Thistlecrack was a fantastic jumper up until his injuries/hiatus, some of his jumps in his KG win were jaw dropping. His jumping at Haydock was horrible but came on well in the King George again. Signs are good. Thistlecrack is my favourite horse so I'd have to back him regardless but 12/1 is a solid price. Only concern is whether he gets injured between then and now. Brittle enough horse for a horse built like a sh*t house.

He could be great when he got it right but from memory I thought he was a bit too extravagant at his fences, all that outside the wings taking off stuff which, while spectacular looking, isn’t the stamp of a true natural jumper for me. Looks to me like they maybe schooled that out of him, though, and he did look fine at kempton alright. Personally I’d still have question marks in that department at cheltenham but would love to see him win for the owners who come across as good people.

redzerdrog · 13-01-2019 11:03pm

I'd be very surprised if tistlecrack goes off less than 10/1 on the day

Johner · 14-01-2019 3:07pm

piplip87 wrote: »

Had my first nibble today.
I did Didtheyleaveuoutto for the Supreme. Hugely impressed in his bumpbers last season, didn't go according to plan in the Champion Bumper. Two from two this season and at 20s I hope it's a bargain.

Not Cheltenham but the 16's on offer for Didtheyleaveuoutto in the Betfair Hurdle looks good value off a mark of 139.

supremenovice · 16-01-2019 5:13pm

The more I look at the Champion Hurdle, the more I like Supasundae.
It seems that he was run over the wrong distance in the Stayers Hurdle in last years festival but still ran well to be second. His best form is over two miles - Irish Champion Hurdle winner and Punchestown Champion Hurdle winner last season. I dont think Harrington has confirmed him over that distance but shes bound to now that it looks an open year. I think at 16/1 in Boyle's he's a cracking bet (12s in PP as NRNB)

RivetingRoger · 16-01-2019 5:26pm

supremenovice wrote: »

The more I look at the Champion Hurdle, the more I like Supasundae.
It seems that he was run over the wrong distance in the Stayers Hurdle in last years festival but still ran well to be second. His best form is over two miles - Irish Champion Hurdle winner and Punchestown Champion Hurdle winner last season. I dont think Harrington has confirmed him over that distance but shes bound to now that it looks an open year. I think at 16/1 in Boyle's he's a cracking bet (12s in PP as NRNB)

Not with stolen money! Not in that race.

RivetingRoger · 16-01-2019 5:28pm

Strange that PP still haven't gone NRNB on all races.
They did on 9/1/18
We are now at 16/1/19 and still no sign of it

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