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Charlie George · 18-12-2018 3:30pm

Is it for singles only or does the nr come into accumilators.

Gringo180 · 18-12-2018 9:39pm

Charlie George wrote: »

Is it for singles only or does the nr come into accumilators.

Accums as well.

FatRat · 19-12-2018 2:06am

krustydoyle wrote: »

Bet 365 just went NRNB BOG on these

Champion Hurdle
Champion Chase
Ryanair Chase
Stayers Hurdle
Gold Cup

Wow very good offer for this early to be fair to Bet365. They're miles ahead of the other bookies imo. May not back immediately but there's a few I really like with this at their prices;

Call Me Lord - Stayers Hurdle 16/1 - I'll be backing this before the Long Walk on Saturday. He looked unreal at Aintree up in trip. I think 3 miles will be his calling. I'm actually shocked he's 16s NRNB BOG. Has something come out about him running in a different race? I'll be backing over the next few days.

Great Field - Champion Chase 14/1 - Hard to see past Altior obviously but this is the only horse in this field that still is not exposed enough that we can safely say he has no chance against the machine of Altior. I backed him for this last year also and he didn't make it. There's no other race option for him really so I expect him to run. Only worry is his jumping and I would think they need a more experienced jock than J McGarvey. And you'd never know, Altior may not make it!

Bellshill 20/1 & Disko 40/1 - Gold Cup - I'm excited to see how they go in the lead up to Cheltenham. At the moment I have one of them winning the Lexus in 2 weeks time if they make it and they may just go straight to the Gold Cup from there. Bellshill's Grand National performance off top weight was very impressive until his mishap (would've won otherwise imo) and his win at Punch 8l ahead of RTR was also a nice piece of form. Disko is an interesting one. I reckon he'll stay a Gold Cup but the burning question is if he comes back and how strong. He has bags of ability as a stayer and 40/1 could be very big. Basically I'm backing old Irish form to overturn NR and MB but at huge prices. I think the market principles are very short right now with horses like these potentially coming out of the woodwork.

madmoose · 19-12-2018 7:22am

FatRat wrote: »

Wow very good offer for this early to be fair to Bet365. They're miles ahead of the other bookies imo. May not back immediately but there's a few I really like with this at their prices;

Call Me Lord - Stayers Hurdle 16/1 - I'll be backing this before the Long Walk on Saturday. He looked unreal at Aintree up in trip. I think 3 miles will be his calling. I'm actually shocked he's 16s NRNB BOG. Has something come out about him running in a different race? I'll be backing over the next few days.

Great Field - Champion Chase 14/1 - Hard to see past Altior obviously but this is the only horse in this field that still is not exposed enough that we can safely say he has no chance against the machine of Altior. I backed him for this last year also and he didn't make it. There's no other race option for him really so I expect him to run. Only worry is his jumping and I would think they need a more experienced jock than J McGarvey. And you'd never know, Altior may not make it!

Bellshill 20/1 & Disko 40/1 - Gold Cup - I'm excited to see how they go in the lead up to Cheltenham. At the moment I have one of them winning the Lexus in 2 weeks time if they make it and they may just go straight to the Gold Cup from there. Bellshill's Grand National performance off top weight was very impressive until his mishap (would've won otherwise imo) and his win at Punch 8l ahead of RTR was also a nice piece of form. Disko is an interesting one. I reckon he'll stay a Gold Cup but the burning question is if he comes back and how strong. He has bags of ability as a stayer and 40/1 could be very big. Basically I'm backing old Irish form to overturn NR and MB but at huge prices. I think the market principles are very short right now with horses like these potentially coming out of the woodwork.

The problem for Call me Lord is they keep saying he can’t go left handed which puts me off the stayers. Next Destination 20/1 NRNB could be the one for that if chasing is put on hold.

Charlie George · 19-12-2018 10:01am

Colin's sister 33/1 for the stayers and Global citizen 25/1 for the champion hurdle, a few bob ew.

RivetingRoger · 19-12-2018 12:03pm

Also on board the Bellshill Bus
Been saying for a while now he could be WPM's best GC horse since Vautour

Goes all day, jumps like a stag (usually!) doesn't need ground

Thistlecrack could be interesting if next week goes well for him

Slattsy · 19-12-2018 12:16pm

Thistlecrack was the one to take out of Haydock, I thought. He lost ground at practically every fence (you'd think it was his first chase start) but I really liked how he stayed on, and it kinda gone under the radar. Could be interesting.
I was hoping they'd send him back over hurdles tbh.

The GC is very open, there's a few at big prices I'd give each way chances to, Bellshill one, Shattered Love another. I could be a wait until the race kinda bet.

RivetingRoger · 19-12-2018 12:32pm

Thistlecrack into 6/1 for KG
not putting a penny down till nrnb
hope he stays above 5/1 but the money seems to be coming for him

akelly02 · 19-12-2018 4:18pm

same, he is slightly underpricesd now i reckon though

longshotvalue · 19-12-2018 8:12pm

RivetingRoger wrote: »

Thistlecrack into 6/1 for KG
not putting a penny down till nrnb
hope he stays above 5/1 but the money seems to be coming for him

I really think he is going to win this. He will jump better there and still has a huge engine.

RivetingRoger · 20-12-2018 10:34am

13/2 today
ah feck it will throw on a score
he will shorten

HON DA THISTLECRACK!!!

Slattsy · 20-12-2018 10:42am

Took 7s last night.

Am I the only one that cant have Waiting Patiently??
And I doubt Presenting Percy runs, Might Bite needs to bounce back..... pity I missed some of the bigger prices but he'll go off 4 or 5s.

longshotvalue · 20-12-2018 11:10am

Slattsy wrote: »

Took 7s last night.

Am I the only one that cant have Waiting Patiently??
And I doubt Presenting Percy runs, Might Bite needs to bounce back..... pity I missed some of the bigger prices but he'll go off 4 or 5s.

I think the race could well cut up badly. He just strikes me as the most likely winner on decent ground if Myte Byte isnt up to scratch.

RivetingRoger · 20-12-2018 12:16pm

if might bite runs his race he wont be beaten
will possibly treble MB with FP and AJ also but Thistlecrack is coming into this in rare form

WP has obvious claims but first run and all that....

PP wont run this race, not even in the betting for it

Slattsy · 20-12-2018 12:24pm

Someone set up a KG thread and stop being lazy fookers.

RivetingRoger · 20-12-2018 12:47pm

Slattsy wrote: »

Someone set up a KG thread and stop being lazy fookers.

no better man slattsy................

posturingpat · 20-12-2018 12:47pm

Thistlecrack looks short. Jumped poorly the last day, has had his issues and hasnt won a race in 2 years.
I adored him as a hurdler and he looked very good early in his chase career but hes not that horse anymore.

FatRat · 20-12-2018 1:07pm

posturingpat wrote: »

Thistlecrack looks short. Jumped poorly the last day, has had his issues and hasnt won a race in 2 years.
I adored him as a hurdler and he looked very good early in his chase career but hes not that horse anymore.

Agreed. I'm almost being convinced because of the hype in here but I'm gonna refrian because I think deep down that he's just not up to it. This should be a much stronger race than last year if NR, WP or Politologue go. In hindsight last year's was a weak race.

sweeneed · 20-12-2018 1:13pm

cant have thistlecrack either. Loved him couple years ago but they never really come back from those injuries. he jumped terribly the last day and seemed to struggle most the race but finished like a train. can see him bouncing. waiting patiently for me. hes only won on ground with soft in description though so if that goes against him i think politilogue is the solid bet to run his race.

Gringo180 · 20-12-2018 4:49pm

Thistlecrack has a bit of Tidal Bay about him these days. Runs in snatches but absolutely steams home. Cant see him winning the KG meself.

akelly02 · 20-12-2018 5:01pm

Gringo180 wrote: »

Thistlecrack has a bit of Tidal Bay about him these days. Runs in snatches but absolutely steams home. Cant see him winning the KG meself.

totally disagree. It was literally 1 run. He tanked through the race was his jumping that let him down

longshotvalue · 20-12-2018 5:05pm

If the 11 that are still in run, it'll be one of the best NH races in years.. Cant wait.

Although i was very strong on Thistlecrack after the betfair at a big price, i'm not sure he is value now if all these turn up.

ON ZEE BRIDLE · 26-12-2018 10:00pm

Was very impressed with Le Richeberg today so took a slice of 12s ew for the Arkle. I like Kalashnikov but dont think the form of tgis years Supreme is anything special

antietam · 30-12-2018 5:39pm

Had a serious barney with Amy Murphy about Kalashnikov last April.He cannot win the Arkel based on his hurdles form and if I owned him he would not be with her based on her warped assumptions of his speed over 2 m.Leopardstown was seriously underwhelming but plenty of decent horses yet to run I assume and remember MALONE ROAD a banker of bankers.

madmoose · 30-12-2018 5:49pm

antietam wrote: »

Had a serious barney with Amy Murphy about Kalashnikov last April.He cannot win the Arkel based on his hurdles form and if I owned him he would not be with her based on her warped assumptions of his speed over 2 m.Leopardstown was seriously underwhelming but plenty of decent horses yet to run I assume and remember MALONE ROAD a banker of bankers.

Malone Road has a knee injury and is unlikely to make it.

BumperD · 30-12-2018 5:54pm

Would agree the supreme was poor, they finished in a heap.

Think your getting carried away with Malone, he’s injured, 6/1 ap rules, if you’re on at a big price when you put him up here well done but banging the drum now is a little pointless given the price, especially as he might not run so you’d do your dough at 6/1. Better bets out there

antietam · 30-12-2018 6:05pm

madmoose wrote: »

Love Santini but the market antepost is pathetic at that price. Plus we haven’t seen many for the RSA like Next Dest and Black Op.

He looks ordinary and by Milan?

antietam · 30-12-2018 6:08pm

madmoose wrote: »

Malone Road has a knee injury and is unlikely to make it.

NO,he has not BOOKIES ACTING THE WANKER.Elliott first I have heard of this.

ASOT · 30-12-2018 6:13pm

antietam wrote: »

NO,he has not BOOKIES ACTING THE WANKER.Elliott first I have heard of this.

https://www.racingpost.com/news/favourite-malone-road-a-major-doubt-for-champion-bumper-due-to-knee-injury/356215

EICVD · 30-12-2018 6:17pm

antietam wrote: »

NO,he has not BOOKIES ACTING THE WANKER.Elliott first I have heard of this.

The rest of us knew about it about a month ago.

antietam · 30-12-2018 6:23pm

ASOT wrote: »

https://www.racingpost.com/news/favourite-malone-road-a-major-doubt-for-champion-bumper-due-to-knee-injury/356215

The horse is perfect "done no work" according to trainer huge bull **** by layers,OMG.

maximo31 · 30-12-2018 6:33pm

So which Cheltenham race will Champ be aimed at?

EICVD · 30-12-2018 6:37pm

maximo31 wrote: »

So which Cheltenham race will Champ be aimed at?

Read he’ll be kept at 2.5 miles for now so you’d presume the Ballymore

antietam · 30-12-2018 6:58pm

EICVD wrote: »

The rest of us knew about it about a month ago.

ok you are watched,baby.

antietam · 30-12-2018 7:40pm

Are the visits since April by BHA [in Ireland]making a difference on drugs?just asking .

EICVD · 30-12-2018 9:51pm

antietam wrote: »

ok you are watched,baby.

Good to know hun

Gringo180 · 31-12-2018 12:20am

In what looks an appalling Gold Cup I have to start backing The Storyteller at 25s every week now until the festival. I think he has an absolute massive chance.

HarshOstrich · 31-12-2018 1:13am

Gringo180 wrote: »

In what looks an appalling Gold Cup I have to start backing The Storyteller at 25s every week now until the festival. I think he has an absolute massive chance.

He would be doing extremely well to place in the top 8 in the race on what he has achieved and what is likely to turn up.
Native river,clan des obeaux, thistlecrack, road to respect, kemboy,presenting Percy,bellshill, definetly red all better horses than the storyteller

Gringo180 · 31-12-2018 8:41am

HarshOstrich wrote: »

He would be doing extremely well to place in the top 8 in the race on what he has achieved and what is likely to turn up.
Native river,clan des obeaux, thistlecrack, road to respect, kemboy,presenting Percy,bellshill, definetly red all better horses than the storyteller

Over the Gold Cup distance he will improve again. Its only his first season out of novice company and I thought Davy went easy on him the other day until the last 200 yards or so when he was beaten, I found it a strange ride. Hes a dour stayer and the Gold Cup will be ideal for him. Won at the festival last year as well thats a massive plus.

RivetingRoger · 31-12-2018 5:21pm

Gringo180 wrote: »

In what looks an appalling Gold Cup I have to start backing The Storyteller at 25s every week now until the festival. I think he has an absolute massive chance.

You on the sauce Gringo.....??!!

1. Percy
2. Bellshill
3. Thistlecrack

Gringo180 · 31-12-2018 5:36pm

RivetingRoger wrote: »

You on the sauce Gringo.....??!!

1. Percy
2. Bellshill
3. Thistlecrack

Bellshill only beat The Storyteller about the same length as Linford Christies flute on Friday.

Slattsy · 31-12-2018 5:54pm

Gringo180 wrote: »

In what looks an appalling Gold Cup I have to start backing The Storyteller at 25s every week now until the festival. I think he has an absolute massive chance.

They'll stick him back over hurdles for Cheltenham, I'd have thought.

krustydoyle · 31-12-2018 6:12pm

Slattsy wrote:

They'll stick him back over hurdles for Cheltenham, I'd have thought.

Something like the Coral Cup would raise a few eyebrows slattsy

Slattsy · 31-12-2018 6:15pm

krustydoyle wrote: »

Something like the Coral Cup would raise a few eyebrows slattsy

My eyebrows have been raised for a little while now!

ON ZEE BRIDLE · 31-12-2018 6:39pm

Im sure the english hcapper will have old gordy by the short and curlies this march esp the hurdle races

Massimo Tara · 31-12-2018 7:23pm

Willoughby Court @50/1 would be my pick for the Gold Cup if he runs this season.

realdanbreen · 31-12-2018 10:13pm

Gringo180 wrote: »

In what looks an appalling Gold Cup I have to start backing The Storyteller at 25s every week now until the festival. I think he has an absolute massive chance.

But The Storyteller isn't entered in the gold cup?

BumperD · 31-12-2018 10:16pm

Entries not out yet Dan

EICVD · 31-12-2018 10:24pm

Massimo Tara wrote: »

Willoughby Court @50/1 would be my pick for the Gold Cup if he runs this season.

I’d hold off any ante post bets yet, the Rooney’s apparently sent letters to their trainers informing them not to run any of their horses at Cheltenham for the foreseeable future. Now you’d like to think it’d be resolved come March.

EICVD · 31-12-2018 10:25pm

realdanbreen wrote: »

But The Storyteller isn't entered in the gold cup?

Those Cheltenham entries on the racing post website/app are all possible entries, Samcro must be ‘entered’ in about 10 races!

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