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    #152
    wrangler
    Registered Users Posts: 11,057 ✭✭✭✭wrangler


    I was talking to a IFA national officer this evening, he's expecting another hit.


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    #153
    gerryirl
    Registered Users Posts: 577 ✭✭✭gerryirl


    wrangler wrote: »
    I was talking to a IFA national officer this evening, he's expecting another hit.

    in what shape or from


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    #154
    Heart Break Kid
    Registered Users Posts: 834 ✭✭✭Heart Break Kid


    kk.man wrote: »
    Another point Irish supermarkets only buy less than 5% of what we produce. That won't hurt us either.
    Now check your facts before you make an argument.

    Then why protest? Just doesn’t make sense to start an argument with someone that’s a relatively small customer.


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    #155
    tanko
    Registered Users Posts: 9,206 ✭✭✭tanko


    gerryirl wrote: »
    in what shape or from

    The IFA lads are going to hit the five star hotels around the country for the xmas party season. Apparently there's a million left in the slush fund that has to be blown before the end of the year.


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    #156
    wrangler
    Registered Users Posts: 11,057 ✭✭✭✭wrangler


    gerryirl wrote: »
    in what shape or from

    I didn't ask, he said he had a few phone calls this evening from higher up.
    I know from past experience that they don't phone on sundays for fun


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    #157
    MIKEKC
    Registered Users Posts: 1,138 ✭✭✭MIKEKC


    Robson99 wrote: »
    If I was you I would change factories....if you are any sort of a regular you should be able to get them killed....

    Regular here with same factory for 15 years still can't get last of them away.


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    #158
    Robson99
    Registered Users Posts: 4,189 ✭✭✭Robson99


    MIKEKC wrote: »
    Regular here with same factory for 15 years still can't get last of them away.

    Think you need to have a chat with the manager


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    #159
    MIKEKC
    Registered Users Posts: 1,138 ✭✭✭MIKEKC


    Robson99 wrote: »
    Think you need to have a chat with the manager

    Always sent through agent, maybe another chat with him


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    #160
    Robson99
    Registered Users Posts: 4,189 ✭✭✭Robson99


    MIKEKC wrote: »
    Always sent through agent, maybe another chat with him

    They really are ****ing you over. As soon as things settle I would source another factory and tell the current agent and factory to go **** themselves


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    #161
    mr.stonewall
    Registered Users Posts: 1,611 ✭✭✭mr.stonewall


    Just on a side note how much has Larry Goodman's name has been in the media since the beef tribunal days and bet he doesn't like it one bit. It's subtle pressure from lots of different sources at the moment on the cartel that will yeild results. Every day it's in media is breaking a clink in his armour


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    #162
    jimmy G M
    Registered Users Posts: 1,140 ✭✭✭jimmy G M


    mr.stonewall wrote: »
    Just on a side note how much has Larry Goodman's name has been in the media since the beef tribunal days and bet he doesn't like it one bit. It's subtle pressure from lots of different sources at the moment on the cartel that will yeild results. Every day it's in media is breaking a clink in his armour

    A quote comes to mind from The Usual Suspects......

    "The greatest trick the Devil ever pulled was convincing the world he didn't exist"


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    #163
    jimmy G M
    Registered Users Posts: 1,140 ✭✭✭jimmy G M


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    #164
    Water John
    Registered Users Posts: 21,114 ✭✭✭✭Water John


    The longer term solution is not to be dependent on the 'goodwill' of a factory agent and join a PO and let them deal directly with the factories and markets.

    That may not be what you want or need to hear ATM.


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    #165
    kk.man
    Registered Users Posts: 3,425 ✭✭✭kk.man


    BarryD2 wrote: »
    Produce less cattle. Reduce the supply to the factories. That'll raise the price paid...

    Of course that means that some lads would leave the business but this would give a better return to those remaining.

    When we produced 30k per week the factories rode us, when we killed 28k per week and 24k per it was the same result. They brought in 30 month rule under many gusises but it controls the supply.
    We are dealing with a Cartel here that domestically or at EU level the powers that be don't want to tackle. That's the nub of the problem. The factories have no problem selling the meat none of it is left over or goes to intervention.


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    #166
    Bullocks
    Registered Users Posts: 5,890 ✭✭✭Bullocks


    mr.stonewall wrote: »
    Just on a side note how much has Larry Goodman's name has been in the media since the beef tribunal days and bet he doesn't like it one bit. It's subtle pressure from lots of different sources at the moment on the cartel that will yeild results. Every day it's in media is breaking a clink in his armour

    At this stage I'd say he couldn't give a sh1te . He is 80 odd I think and considering he got this far on the backs of farmers ,tax payers and politicians(not too mention his smarts ) he will hardly change tack .
    Farmers are years aswell giving little concessions to factories and making less and less and sometimes a loss altogether but we keep the numbers up regardless of how little is coming next year .
    Who is worse ?


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    #167
    memorystick
    Registered Users Posts: 1,578 ✭✭✭memorystick


    They’re picking on Tesco’s now.


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    #168
    wrangler
    Registered Users Posts: 11,057 ✭✭✭✭wrangler


    kk.man wrote: »
    When we produced 30k per week the factories rode us, when we killed 28k per week and 24k per it was the same result. They brought in 30 month rule under many gusises but it controls the supply.
    We are dealing with a Cartel here that domestically or at EU level the powers that be don't want to tackle. That's the nub of the problem. The factories have no problem selling the meat none of it is left over or goes to intervention.

    They are very good at their job, but you can sell anything if you drop the price enough.
    I see on the bargain thread a guy bought 12 steaks for 12 Euro, someone said he got it in the ''salmonella fridge'' :D. 12 hrs to go before the end of sell by date.....straight in to the freezer and it'd be the finest.
    I saw legs of lamb at 2 or 3 euro in a similar fridge myself


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    #169
    wrangler
    Registered Users Posts: 11,057 ✭✭✭✭wrangler


    memorystick wrote: »
    They’re picking on Tesco’s now.

    I knew that but I couldn't put it up here, I also knew my source was genuine


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    #170
    Wanderer78
    Registered Users Posts: 28,805 ✭✭✭✭Wanderer78


    memorystick wrote:
    They’re picking on Tesco’s now.


    They're bloody right to


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    #171
    MickeyShtyles
    Registered Users Posts: 1,371 ✭✭✭MickeyShtyles


    Anyone think it’s a stages thing. Dunnes towards the end of the week. And then Musgraves Blanchardstown/Ballycoolin next week.
    Or are they ballzy enough to take on Musgraves?


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    #172
    Water John
    Registered Users Posts: 21,114 ✭✭✭✭Water John


    BPM did the picket of Musgraves Cork months ago.
    Why would they be sacred?


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    #173
    Wanderer78
    Registered Users Posts: 28,805 ✭✭✭✭Wanderer78


    MickeyShtyles wrote: »
    Anyone think it’s a stages thing. Dunnes towards the end of the week. And then Musgraves Blanchardstown/Ballycoolin next week.
    Or are they ballzy enough to take on Musgraves?

    again, they bloody should, they should be all picketed at the same time


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    #174
    MickeyShtyles
    Registered Users Posts: 1,371 ✭✭✭MickeyShtyles


    Water John wrote: »
    BPM did the picket of Musgraves Cork months ago.
    Why would they be sacred?

    If they blockaded either of those Musgraves distribution centres, it wouldn't be too long before things came to a standstill.
    During the BP protest neither of the above had beef on their shelves nor were able to supply to restaurants/caterers.
    That being said, Christmas week is a terrible time to try and get a protest going.


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    #175
    wrangler
    Registered Users Posts: 11,057 ✭✭✭✭wrangler


    MickeyShtyles wrote: »
    Anyone think it’s a stages thing. Dunnes towards the end of the week. And then Musgraves Blanchardstown/Ballycoolin next week.
    Or are they ballzy enough to take on Musgraves?

    I was with IFA when they blocked musgraves in maynooth ten years ago, all the processors sent us steaks on the day, I've a friend that works with youth groups and he brought up two huge Barbeques, we must've cooked 3 or 400 steaks that day.
    So yes they are ballzy enough to take on Musgrave

    Actually just after remembering that rushes shops are musgraves franchised, Probably that's why you're on about musgraves only I was ABIT SLOW


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    #176
    Capercaillie
    Registered Users Posts: 1,732 ✭✭✭Capercaillie


    wrangler wrote: »
    I was with IFA when they blocked musgraves in maynooth ten years ago, all the processors sent us steaks on the day, I've a friend that works with youth groups and he brought up two huge Barbeques, we must've cooked 3 or 400 steaks that day.
    So yes they are ballzy enough to take on Musgrave

    Rushe is connected to Musgraves, might make a difference.


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    #177
    wrangler
    Registered Users Posts: 11,057 ✭✭✭✭wrangler


    Capercaillie wrote: »
    Rushe is connected to Musgraves, might make a difference.
    Yea, just after copping that


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    #178
    MickeyShtyles
    Registered Users Posts: 1,371 ✭✭✭MickeyShtyles


    wrangler wrote: »
    Yea, just after copping that

    That’s the point I was trying to make.....
    Ye’d hope it wouldn’t make a difference but sure we know the craic


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    #179
    yosemitesam1
    Registered Users Posts: 2,927 ✭✭✭yosemitesam1


    Was talking to a lad who seemed to think the 12 hour blockades weren't making any difference to retailers as the vast majority of traffic is in and out outside of the blockade times. Any truth in that?


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    #180
    Water John
    Registered Users Posts: 21,114 ✭✭✭✭Water John


    The main despatches would be at night time. You pass Lidl in Chareleville by day and its empty. Now smaller distribution centres would operate, round the clock. What you most affect is their scheduling.


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    #181
    MickeyShtyles
    Registered Users Posts: 1,371 ✭✭✭MickeyShtyles


    yosemitesam1 wrote: »
    Was talking to a lad who seemed to think the 12 hour blockades weren't making any difference to retailers as the vast majority of traffic is in and out outside of the blockade times. Any truth in that?

    Suppliers for Charleville were told to get trucks in before 5am.


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