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    #122
    orm0nd
    Registered Users Posts: 4,176 ✭✭✭orm0nd


    The more I think about these 2 protests the more, they look like publicity stunts for woods and coughlan.

    Hope our local man and rushe get elected. They'd have the balls to to cut out a lot of this bullsh1t.


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    #123
    wrangler
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    orm0nd wrote: »
    The more I think about these 2 protests the more, they look like publicity stunts for woods and coughlan.

    Hope our local man and rushe get elected. They'd have the balls to to cut out a lot of this bullsh1t.

    The voting is practically over, is it not too late for any change. Rushe was at the protest in Naas


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    #124
    Jjameson
    Registered Users Posts: 2,745 ✭✭✭Jjameson


    orm0nd wrote: »
    The more I think about these 2 protests the more, they look like publicity stunts for woods and coughlan.

    Hope our local man and rushe get elected. They'd have the balls to to cut out a lot of this bullsh1t.

    I’ve 5 quid on him at 4 to 1 too:D


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    #125
    Jjameson
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    wrangler wrote: »
    The voting is practically over, is it not too late for any change. Rushe was at the protest in Naas
    And he spoke very well. He’s a good man I think.


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    #126
    BarryD2
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    kk.man wrote: »
    It is the same. People go to the hand that feeds them when the food is reduced. Farmers and others have entered negotiations with most stakeholders for years and got nowhere. That was a last resort to air our grievance.

    A farm is a business. Piss off your customers and you run the risk of losing business. Retailers can and do switch suppliers. You may end up reaping what you sow.

    Public servants on the other hand have a level of protection, even if they go on strike and annoy the public.

    You are more exposed.


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    #127
    kk.man
    Registered Users Posts: 3,430 ✭✭✭kk.man


    BarryD2 wrote: »
    A farm is a business. Piss off your customers and you run the risk of losing business. Retailers can and do switch suppliers. You may end up reaping what you sow.

    Public servants on the other hand have a level of protection, even if they go on strike and annoy the public.

    You are more exposed.
    How do you propose farmers get a fair price?


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    #128
    gerryirl
    Registered Users Posts: 577 ✭✭✭gerryirl


    orm0nd wrote: »
    The more I think about these 2 protests the more, they look like publicity stunts for woods and coughlan.
    t.

    Publicity stunt for the IFA full stop.. A joke really. They should have done this months ago instead of leaving it to the beefplan. Healy only got a set of balls once the beefplan started the fight . too little too late then. They did in fairness stick bythe farmers that had injunctions which redeemded them in my eyes a bit but sadly the once great IFA which they were are now only a shadow of years gone by and the farming comminuity by and large have realised this too


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    #129
    wrangler
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    gerryirl wrote: »
    Publicity stunt for the IFA full stop.. A joke really. They should have done this months ago instead of leaving it to the beefplan. Healy only got a set of balls once the beefplan started the fight . too little too late then. They did in fairness stick bythe farmers that had injunctions which redeemded them in my eyes a bit but sadly the once great IFA which they were are now only a shadow of years gone by and the farming comminuity by and large have realised this too

    No point to doing it months ago, bit sad even to try it


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    #130
    gerryirl
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    wrangler wrote: »
    No point to doing it months ago, bit sad even to try it

    well its right bloody sad looking now I tell you


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    #131
    MIKEKC
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    gerryirl wrote: »
    Publicity stunt for the IFA full stop.. A joke really. They should have done this months ago instead of leaving it to the beefplan. Healy only got a set of balls once the beefplan started the fight . too little too late then. They did in fairness stick bythe farmers that had injunctions which redeemded them in my eyes a bit but sadly the once great IFA which they were are now only a shadow of years gone by and the farming comminuity by and large have realised this too

    Darragh McCullough had an article in the farming independent this week discussing the injunctions . He said one was a Fine Gael councillor and part time builder the other was a carpenter. No mention of any connection to farming. If this be the case why was there such pressure to get injunctions lifted


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    #132
    wrangler
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    gerryirl wrote: »
    well its right bloody sad looking now I tell you

    A mess if you're still waiting to sell cattle since August


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    #133
    wrangler
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    MIKEKC wrote: »
    Darragh McCullough had an article in the farming independent this week discussing the injunctions . He said one was a Fine Gael councillor and part time builder the other was a carpenter. No mention of any connection to farming. If this be the case why was there such pressure to get injunctions lifted

    Hard to see it alright but farmers were insistent on all injunctions being lifted


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    #134
    Base price
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    MIKEKC wrote: »
    Darragh McCullough had an article in the farming independent this week discussing the injunctions . He said one was a Fine Gael councillor and part time builder the other was a carpenter. No mention of any connection to farming. If this be the case why was there such pressure to get injunctions lifted
    https://www.rte.ie/news/ireland/2019/1014/1083201-beef-market-taskforce/


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    #135
    gerryirl
    Registered Users Posts: 577 ✭✭✭gerryirl


    wrangler wrote: »
    A mess if you're still waiting to sell cattle since August

    whats that got to do with the IFA pickets. Thats what I was on about. And yes Ive been trying to kill cattle since August


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    #136
    MIKEKC
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    Base price wrote: »
    https://www.rte.ie/news/ireland/2019/1014/1083201-beef-market-taskforce/
    Read the article, I can't see where it says that these individuals were farmers


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    #137
    Base price
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    MIKEKC wrote: »
    Read the article, I can't see where it says that these individuals were farmers
    Part time farmers would be more accurate -

    https://www.agriland.ie/farming-news/farmers-still-battling-with-legal-threats-speak-out/


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    #138
    MIKEKC
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    Base price wrote: »
    Part time farmers would be more accurate -

    https://www.agriland.ie/farming-news/farmers-still-battling-with-legal-threats-speak-out/

    Strange that Darragh McCullough didn't mention it if they were part time farmers.Surely this would have been a very important point?


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    #139
    Water John
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    Part time IWT, like most beef farmers. BTW, if they had no connection with the land and came to support rural Ireland and their neighbours, fair play to them.


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    #140
    Robson99
    Registered Users Posts: 4,197 ✭✭✭Robson99


    wrangler wrote: »
    A mess if you're still waiting to sell cattle since August

    There is no one waiting to sell cattle since August...tarmac talk


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    #141
    MIKEKC
    Registered Users Posts: 1,138 ✭✭✭MIKEKC


    Water John wrote: »
    Part time IWT, like most beef farmers. BTW, if they had no connection with the land and came to support rural Ireland and their neighbours, fair play to them.

    These guys weren't supporting rural Ireland. Caused misery to the owners of a reported 100,000 cattle that went overage and some of which still aren't killed. Continue to be fed for e3.45 per kilo


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    #142
    Panch18
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    Robson99 wrote: »
    There is no one waiting to sell cattle since August...tarmac talk

    Oh but there is

    The number is down a lot but still cattle to be killed


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    #143
    Robson99
    Registered Users Posts: 4,197 ✭✭✭Robson99


    Panch18 wrote: »
    Oh but there is

    The number is down a lot but still cattle to be killed

    So cattle that were fit for killing in August are still in a shed waiting to be killed...lads in this position really need to question there factory procurement manager or maybe they are lads who chop and change factories regularly...I haven't heard of anyone who is killing cattle having to wait any longer than 4 weeks.


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    #144
    epfff
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    Panch18 wrote: »
    Oh but there is

    The number is down a lot but still cattle to be killed

    I find that very strange
    I think there is more to that than meets the eye they must have annoyed someone in a previous life or with last cattle they sent.
    I had 2 factories that i dont regularly deal with looking for cattle last week (no extra money)


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    #145
    Base price
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    MIKEKC wrote: »
    Strange that Darragh McCullough didn't mention it if they were part time farmers.Surely this would have been a very important point?
    Both are part time farmers - https://www.northernsound.ie/longford-farmer-vows-continue-farming-despite-c-d-injunction/


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    #146
    Base price
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    epfff wrote: »
    I find that very strange
    I think there is more to that than meets the eye they must have annoyed someone in a previous life or with last cattle they sent.
    I had 2 factories that i dont regularly deal with looking for cattle last week (no extra money)
    What spec?

    The factory that we go too are actively looking for Chinese spec cattle. There is a delay in getting overage and cull cows booked in.


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    #147
    tanko
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    I enquired about the price for a few cows last Monday, could have sent them on the Wednesday if i wanted. Only offering 2.90 for R's so i didnt.


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    #148
    Neddyusa
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    epfff wrote: »
    I find that very strange
    I think there is more to that than meets the eye they must have annoyed someone in a previous life or with last cattle they sent.
    I had 2 factories that i dont regularly deal with looking for cattle last week (no extra money)


    Still have fit bullocks here that went overage during the strike. Were originally booked in first week of the strike. Factory only taking them next week. No way to get over 30 mths killed the past 2 months.
    Only saving Grace is that they were on grass


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    #149
    BarryD2
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    kk.man wrote: »
    How do you propose farmers get a fair price?

    Produce less cattle. Reduce the supply to the factories. That'll raise the price paid...

    Of course that means that some lads would leave the business but this would give a better return to those remaining.


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    #150
    Robson99
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    Neddyusa wrote: »
    Still have fit bullocks here that went overage during the strike. Were originally booked in first week of the strike. Factory only taking them next week. No way to get over 30 mths killed the past 2 months.
    Only saving Grace is that they were on grass

    If I was you I would change factories....if you are any sort of a regular you should be able to get them killed....


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    #151
    gerryirl
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    Panch18 wrote: »
    Oh but there is

    The number is down a lot but still cattle to be killed

    have to agree I only got the last of mine off there this evening since the end of September and the agent said this evening plenty still to get through. My regular factory was doing severe cutting of weights so id lose 100-150 a head by going to them so I waited my time and got them away.. rang alot of factorys but when I wasnt a customer they didnt want to know me


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