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Tell me about christmas in Ireland (admin update in post 89)

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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,957 ✭✭✭miss no stars


    I think locking it before giving a contact for complaints is a bit premature.


  • Registered Users Posts: 420 ✭✭Green Diesel


    Absolute Buzz Killington.


  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 30,657 Mod ✭✭✭✭Faith


    Rasmus wrote: »
    I have never heard of such a project in a psychology programme - of course, there is a chance though that he has grossly misunderstood his assignment as it really is an ethical breach to extract information under false pretences.

    Any psychology students here that can offer an opinion?

    No psychology study would ever involve deception like that.

    In order for you to be involved in the study, you would have to provide informed consent, meaning you understood what the purpose of the study is and you understand the role you play in it.

    From the British Psychological Society Code of Ethics (http://www.bps.org.uk/sites/default/files/documents/code_of_ethics_and_conduct.pdf):
    1.3 Standard of informed consent
    Psychologists should:
    (i) Ensure that clients, particularly children and vulnerable
    adults, are given ample opportunity to understand the
    nature, purpose, and anticipated consequences of any
    professional services or research participation, so that they
    may give informed consent to the extent that their
    capabilities allow.
    (ii) Seek to obtain the informed consent of all clients to whom
    professional services or research participation are offered.
    (iii) Keep adequate records of when, how and from whom
    consent was obtained.
    (iv) Remain alert to the possibility that those people for whom
    professional services or research participation are
    contemplated may lack legal capacity for informed consent.

    ...

    (xi) Withhold information from clients only in exceptional
    circumstances when necessary to preserve the integrity of
    research or the efficacy of professional services, or in the
    public interest and specifically consider any additional
    safeguards required for the preservation of client welfare.
    (xii)Avoid intentional deception of clients unless:
    (a) deception is necessary in exceptional circumstances to
    preserve the integrity of research or the efficacy of
    professional services;
    (b) any additional safeguards required for the preservation
    of client welfare are specifically considered; and
    (c) the nature of the deception is disclosed to clients at the
    earliest feasible opportunity.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,772 ✭✭✭✭Whispered


    Well, I feel stupid.

    I read this thread from start to fecking finish to my husband the night before last and actually said "wouldn't it be disappointing if it turned out to not be true" so I guess some part of me was cynical. But the stupid little Christmas Fairy part of me blocked the cynical part out.

    I do not wish to be part of any psych OR media study thank you very much.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,075 ✭✭✭Rasmus


    Faith wrote: »
    No psychology study would ever involve deception like that.

    In order for you to be involved in the study, you would have to provide informed consent, meaning you understood what the purpose of the study is and you understand the role you play in it.

    From the British Psychological Society Code of Ethics (http://www.bps.org.uk/sites/default/files/documents/code_of_ethics_and_conduct.pdf):

    Thanks for posting. Similar things were mentioned in the psychology thread.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,772 ✭✭✭✭Whispered


    Rasmus wrote: »
    Thanks for posting. Similar things were mentioned in the psychology thread.


    :eek::eek::eek:

    Oh you bunch of evil geniuses. This whole thing was set up by the psychology forum mods to increase traffic to the forum!

    :pac:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,413 ✭✭✭✭Trojan


    Mods/Admins: This was not given. You say you know who the OP is and have verified that he/she is a psychology student here in Ireland. So post the details of the college the OP attends, along with sufficient information for his/her lecturers to identify the person in question, and let us make the complaints that we're entitled to make.

    For data protection reasons, we will not release contact details or identifying information about anyone who posts on boards.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,957 ✭✭✭miss no stars


    Trojan wrote: »
    For data protection reasons, we will not release contact details or identifying information about anyone who posts on boards.

    So I'm confused, you're happily allowing him to get away with it?

    Or please tell me that boards.ie is making an official complaint to the department of psychology in the college involved on behalf of the posters of boards.ie ?

    Or maybe the admins of boards.ie will act as a third party through which people can send complaints?

    I can't see how you can allow nothing to happen. Yeah, the OP has data protection rights. SO DO I. All I want to do is make a complaint to whoever is responsible for him in whatever college.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,413 ✭✭✭✭Trojan


    This thread is no longer suitable for the Christmas forum. Temporarily locking it until we decide where to move it.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,413 ✭✭✭✭Trojan


    So I'm confused, you're happily allowing him to get away with it?

    We're not happily anything.

    What we are not doing is knowingly breaking a legal requirement.
    Or please tell me that boards.ie is making an official complaint to the department of psychology in the college involved on behalf of the posters of boards.ie ?

    Or maybe the admins of boards.ie will act as a third party through which people can send complaints?

    Those are interesting ideas, we may well do something like that.
    I can't see how you can allow nothing to happen. Yeah, the OP has data protection rights. SO DO I.

    You do have data protection rights. We wouldn't release your contact details or identifiable information either (even in the unlikely event that you fabricated a story that misled hundreds of people).
    All I want to do is make a complaint to whoever is responsible for him in whatever college.

    We hear you. We're currently discussing the best way to handle this.

    Apart from the legal issues, we also want to ensure that any actions we take are ethically sound, because it'd really be quite hypocritical of us if we didn't.


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