F1 2020 :Round 9 Tuscany GP : Mugello (See MOD warning on 2nd post)

Joeface · 09-09-2020 11:46am #1

Circuit Length 5.245km
Number of laps 59

I am a bit early posting this up but last weekends entertainment has me over confident they can keep it going

New Track for everyone , One DRS zone . No Idea what to expect .

Jordan 199 · 09-09-2020 3:09pm

I must do a lap of the circuit later in Forza Motorsport 7.

Spudman_20000 · 09-09-2020 3:11pm

PopePalpatine · 09-09-2020 7:17pm

"The straight is, uh, very long." Is that dread or resignation I hear in his voice?

Joeface · 09-09-2020 7:21pm

Is this track worse for Ferrari again , It has one long long straight , a bunch of high speed corners . Their Car is Draggy ,has Terrible down force and is slow in the corners .

Jordan 199 · 09-09-2020 7:24pm

PopePalpatine wrote: »

"The straight is, uh, very long." Is that dread or resignation I hear in his voice?

Dreadignation.

AMKC · 09-09-2020 8:01pm

Joeface wrote: »

Is this track worse for Ferrari again , It has one long long straight , a bunch of high speed corners . Their Car is Draggy ,has Terrible down force and is slow in the corners .

Slow in the corners its not just the corners its slow everywhere.

Grim. · 09-09-2020 8:39pm

Mugello is probably one of the best bike racing circuits in the world just cant see it working for F1 unfortunatly, will be cool to see them racing there all the same.

Burkie1203 · 09-09-2020 9:15pm

Temps in mid 30s at weekend. No info on tyre wear at all might make it watchable

Jordan 199 · 10-09-2020 2:15pm

Red Safety car this weekend:

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10-09-2020 2:19pm

I like that.

antodeco · 10-09-2020 4:30pm

A red mercedes that's faster than a Ferrari

Spudman_20000 · 10-09-2020 7:33pm

If Bernie was around he'd probably slip Ferrari a "special" set of tyres a la Williams in Barcelona a few years back.

AMKC · 10-09-2020 8:08pm

Spudman_20000 wrote: »

If Bernie was around he'd probably slip Ferrari a "special" set of tyres a la Williams in Barcelona a few years back.

In 2012 you mean. It's more than a few years back and nearly a few few years back.

Corben Dallas · 11-09-2020 12:32am

Hope this works....

https://www.ferrari.com/en-EN/formula1/articles/tuscan-grand-prix-2020-cover-art
Really nice Art poster for Tuscany 1000th GP from Ferrari

Very sweet.

** if anyone can make better link please do...

Spudman_20000 · 11-09-2020 8:36am

AMKC wrote: »

In 2012 you mean. It's more than a few years back and nearly a few few years back.

Remember it well, including the convenient fire in the garage after the race.

It was the weekend of Frank Williams 70th birthday and rumour at the time was Bernie gave them special sets of tires as a birthday present.

Agent Smith · 11-09-2020 9:42am

Wonder what odds I'd Get on Seb Slamming it straight into Charles....

Joeface · 11-09-2020 10:43am

Leclerc's car seems to be working will today ....Maybe wrecking it fixed something . P3 at the moment in FP1.

ELM327 · 11-09-2020 10:43am

Leclerc currently P2 in FP1 vs seb in P17.. now in fairness they are on different tires and probably different practice programs but still that's a fair delta.

Joeface · 11-09-2020 10:53am

Ah they are all Sand Bagging , Kimi just popped up in third & Giovinazzi in Fourth ( on softs , but still ) , Ferrari must have been give a boost for the "1000th" Gp , if haas appear in the top 10 something is really wrong.

ELM327 · 11-09-2020 10:59am

Wonder if ferrari have been given a one race allowance to use last year's engine!

quokula · 11-09-2020 11:12am

There is no past data for Mugello for other teams to work with, while Ferrari own the track, can test their road cars there, and have tested previous year's F1 cars there. All teams will obviously have gathered as much data as possible in preparation, but for FP1 at least Ferrari probably have a little advantage when it comes to prior knowledge of the nature of the asphalt, every bump and camber etc.

I expect they'll tumble down the order by the time we get to qualifying as other teams get their setup in place.

Joeface · 11-09-2020 11:48am

FP1 results

Ferrari held it together with Charles .
Good pace again from both Alpha Tauri .

Very early days at this track . It is Narrow .

Pos Driver Team Gap
1 Valtteri Bottas Mercedes-AMG Petronas Formula One Team 1m17.879s
2 Max Verstappen Aston Martin Red Bull Racing 0.048s
3 Charles Leclerc Scuderia Ferrari 0.307s
4 Lewis Hamilton Mercedes-AMG Petronas Formula One Team 0.530s
5 Pierre Gasly Scuderia AlphaTauri Honda 0.797s
6 Esteban Ocon Renault DP World F1 Team 0.926s
7 Daniil Kvyat Scuderia AlphaTauri Honda 0.960s
8 Lando Norris McLaren F1 Team 1.102s
9 Alexander Albon Aston Martin Red Bull Racing 1.189s
10 Daniel Ricciardo Renault DP World F1 Team 1.261s
11 Kimi Raikkonen Alfa Romeo Racing ORLEN 1.340s
12 Romain Grosjean Haas F1 Team 1.345s
13 Sebastian Vettel Scuderia Ferrari 1.388s
14 Antonio Giovinazzi Alfa Romeo Racing ORLEN 1.443s
15 Carlos Sainz Jr. McLaren F1 Team 1.578s
16 George Russell Williams Racing 1.599s
17 Kevin Magnussen Haas F1 Team 1.672s
18 Lance Stroll BWT Racing Point F1 Team 1.957s
19 Sergio Perez BWT Racing Point F1 Team 1.961s
20 Nicholas Latifi Williams Racing 2.155s

Jordan 199 · 11-09-2020 2:35pm

Jordan 199 wrote: »

Red Safety car this weekend:

Dampsquid · 11-09-2020 2:50pm

Albons head must be gone, a seconds off Verstappen, and behind the two Alpha Tauri cars. I can't see him being there next year.

quokula · 11-09-2020 2:58pm

Jordan 199 wrote: »

Red Safety car this weekend:

There's something very F1 2020 about celebrating Ferrari's 1000th race by painting a Mercedes red.

Joeface · 11-09-2020 3:16pm

Red Flagged , Perez came out of the pitlane with Kimi on a flying lap and Clipped him in the first run, Not bad impact just some front wing damage on Perez . Kimi Spun round .

chicorytip · 11-09-2020 3:35pm

Joeface wrote: »

Red Flagged , Perez came out of the pitlane with Kimi on a flying lap and Clipped him in the first run, Not bad impact just some front wing damage on Perez . Kimi Spun round .

The Finn to blame there. Driving with blinkers on.

Joeface · 11-09-2020 3:43pm

have to wait for what the stewards Say , He is the Quickest Ferrari power car this afternoon .

FP2 Results
Pos Driver Car Gap
1 Valtteri Bottas Mercedes 1m16.989s
2 Lewis Hamilton Mercedes 0.207s
3 Max Verstappen Red Bull/Honda 0.246s
4 Alexander Albon Red Bull/Honda 0.982s
5 Daniel Ricciardo Renault 1.050s
6 Esteban Ocon Renault 1.126s
7 Sergio Perez Racing Point/Mercedes 1.209s
8 Pierre Gasly AlphaTauri/Honda 1.255s
9 Kimi Raikkonen Alfa Romeo/Ferrari 1.396s
10 Charles Leclerc Ferrari 1.411s
11 Lance Stroll Racing Point/Mercedes 1.473s
12 Sebastian Vettel Ferrari 1.509s
13 Carlos Sainz Jr. McLaren/Renault 1.662s
14 Lando Norris McLaren/Renault 1.669s
15 Daniil Kvyat AlphaTauri/Honda 1.747s
16 George Russell Williams/Mercedes 1.854s
17 Antonio Giovinazzi Alfa Romeo/Ferrari 1.955s
18 Nicholas Latifi Williams/Mercedes 1.994s
19 Kevin Magnussen Haas/Ferrari 2.124s
20 Romain Grosjean Haas/Ferrari 2.268s

Joeface · 11-09-2020 6:00pm

Perez , one place grid penalty

Frank Bullitt · 11-09-2020 7:56pm

Ferrari could do themselves a favour and keep this colour. Stunning.

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pjohnson · 12-09-2020 9:57am

Fair fùcks George. Cant be easy to commentate to this degree while driving.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n7pYcNeUduo

12-09-2020 1:11pm

What time is quality if at?

Thanks

SureYWouldntYa · 12-09-2020 1:16pm

2011 wrote: »

What time is quality if at?

Thanks

Shortly after 2 will all kick off

Dampsquid · 12-09-2020 1:57pm

Watched a track run through with Nico Rosberg, looks like a lot of fast corners, and no overtake zones at all.

SureYWouldntYa · 12-09-2020 1:58pm

Dampsquid wrote: »

Watched a track run through with Nico Rosberg, looks like a lot of fast corners, and no overtake zones at all.

Those videos are brilliant, so many little things to be thinking of changing through every lap of the race

skipper_G · 12-09-2020 2:20pm

Gasly back down to earth with a bang after last week

This is it · 12-09-2020 3:08pm

You'd think LeClerc got everything he could out of that. Hopefully Max can challenge tomorrow. More of last week please

antodeco · 12-09-2020 4:28pm

100% will have a safety car or 2 tomorrow. The closeness of the gravel traps and the run in from the pit lane is going to cause a few collisions I feel.

PopePalpatine · 12-09-2020 5:31pm

skipper_G wrote: »

Gasly back down to earth with a bang after last week

It's the worst qualifying result for the previous race's winner since Belgium 2016.

PsychoPete · 12-09-2020 7:22pm

That Mercedes is an amazing piece of engineering

flazio · 12-09-2020 7:50pm

I know we all think he should be doing this all the time anyway but credit to Albon for locking out the second row. Hope Red Bull get to use him to put Mercedes-Benz under pressure.

Darwin · 12-09-2020 8:59pm

What is it with the cars running very wide on the final turn before the start-finish line? I've lost count of the number of drivers whose left front was on the inside of the rumble strips at this turn. Last weekend they were cancelling lap times for the same infringement at Monza, a bit of consistency would be nice!

AMKC · 12-09-2020 9:39pm

Darwin wrote: »

What is it with the cars running very wide on the final turn before the start-finish line? I've lost count of the number of drivers whose left front was on the inside of the rumble strips at this turn. Last weekend they were cancelling lap times for the same infringement at Monza, a bit of consistency would be nice!

I noticed that with Lewis alright. Maybe they do not gain any time there so the stewards let it go but if they are gaining time there then that lap time should be cancelled.

artanevilla · 12-09-2020 10:05pm

They hadn't got time to set up the track limits at Mugello so technically there are none.

johnnysmack · 12-09-2020 11:36pm

artanevilla wrote: »

They hadn't got time to set up the track limits at Mugello so technically there are none.

They said the gravel is the track limit because if you run wide into the gravel you will lose a load of time anyway. Only exception is turn 14 I think it was, extremely quick left, right chicane. The cars were ignoring the right hand part of it and running straight through.

artanevilla · 13-09-2020 12:21am

If you run wide into gravel you are gone (unless you are George Russell), I think there will be a few binnings tomorrow.

Cookie_Monster · 13-09-2020 1:03am

artanevilla wrote: »

They hadn't got time to set up the track limits at Mugello so technically there are none.

FIA bull****, the white line is the track limit, end of story.

Its the easiest thing in f1 to enforce and yet they won't ever do it, symbolises exactly whats wrong with the whole sport

Cookie_Monster · 13-09-2020 4:34am

Cookie_Monster wrote: »

FIA bull****, the white line is the track limit, end of story.

Its the easiest thing in f1 to enforce and yet they won't ever do it, symbolises exactly whats wrong with the whole sport

just watched quali highlights, the behaviour on the last corner by everyone was disgraceful.

rock22 · 13-09-2020 7:20am

Cookie_Monster wrote: »

FIA bull****, the white line is the track limit, end of story.

Its the easiest thing in f1 to enforce and yet they won't ever do it, symbolises exactly whats wrong with the whole sport

I wish that was the only thing wrong in F1

AMKC · 13-09-2020 10:28am

Maybe it's because this is quiet s narrow track and if they enforced the track limits then the cars would not be able to go as fast as they were going and it could become the slowest race o the calendar. Just d thought.
Anyway who thinks this will just be a one off for F1 or do you think Mugello will be back again next and other years?

F1 2020 :Round 9 Tuscany GP : Mugello (See MOD warning on 2nd post)

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