Civil Service Clerical Officer Campaign 2017 (Dublin)

Ferris_Bueller · 03-11-2017 7:01pm

My OOM is 411, no idea how hopeful or not I should be?

marmieB · 03-11-2017 7:08pm

Be very hopeful, Ferris! There are a lot of vacancies in Dublin. If you qualified at all, be hopeful. I read the handbook and i think maybe theyll do online verbal and numerical tests next....but am not 100% sure. Its kind of vague

BoltzmannBrain · 03-11-2017 7:08pm

Ah things usually work out pretty well for you Ferris!

vinegarhill98 · 03-11-2017 7:30pm

marmieB wrote: »

Be very hopeful, Ferris! There are a lot of vacancies in Dublin. If you qualified at all, be hopeful. I read the handbook and i think maybe theyll do online verbal and numerical tests next....but am not 100% sure. Its kind of vague

Looks like stage 2 is supervised tests according to message with our results

Scored 648 which gives me oom of 312. Happy enough i suppose who knows!

HiberniaLG · 03-11-2017 7:32pm

I got between 4000-4100 on the OOM list - which seems a bit far down, I guess. Would I be overoptimistic about maintaining some hope of been called?

bennyl10 · 03-11-2017 7:46pm

In the 1700’s myself,
Anyone have any idea of what numbers they’re calling or?

marmieB · 03-11-2017 7:52pm

Hi

They are hiring loads with EO in Dublin at the moment - so i am sure it will be the same for CO
You cant have supervised testing without testing first
With the EO, supervised testing meant doing the online verbal numerical tests in a supervised environment
Verbal and Numerical are referred to as 'tests'
Assessments is the term used to describe what we have done already ie personality and scenarios
Unless we repeat the assesssments again, but the handbook refers to verbal/numerical tests - at least the possibility of them
This is just speculation on my part, but i have been through a few civil service recruitment campaigns (including CO) for a while now.

Keane2baMused · 03-11-2017 7:59pm

Qualified stage 1 also. Score of 670 which places me 370 on the OOM. Not sure if that's good or not but we shall see.

Good luck with stage 2 all

Anoushka · 03-11-2017 8:14pm

diceyreilly wrote:

Sorry new to this. What you mean reach your number?

I meant place (OOM), sorry. My OOM is in 190s

sully123 · 03-11-2017 8:39pm

It can be hard to figure out the correct answers if any to these type of tests.

I scored poorly in the temp co competition and still ended up getting a job.

I am thinking that at this stage the oom will determine who gets called first to sit the further assessments.

I scored 514

OOM 3377

I am currently finishing up a 1 year stint as a temp co in the courts service. Hopefully this will help at some point.

rachaelworld · 03-11-2017 8:49pm

marmieB wrote: »

Hi

They are hiring loads with EO in Dublin at the moment - so i am sure it will be the same for CO
You cant have supervised testing without testing first
With the EO, supervised testing meant doing the online verbal numerical tests in a supervised environment
Verbal and Numerical are referred to as 'tests'
Assessments is the term used to describe what we have done already ie personality and scenarios
Unless we repeat the assesssments again, but the handbook refers to verbal/numerical tests - at least the possibility of them
This is just speculation on my part, but i have been through a few civil service recruitment campaigns (including CO) for a while now.

I wonder have they changed things for this year, looking back over the previous thread they were talking about things changing from the previous year, so maybe they have decided not to bother with the at home tests and just go straight to the supervised tests?

ETA I got a score of 583 and an OOM in the mid 1300s

Lynchburg · 03-11-2017 9:09pm

Wow, I thought I was quite an intelligent person but my OOM is in the 4000's! What are the right answers?!?? This was my first attempt at a public job assessment, perhaps it's not for meðŸ˜‚ðŸ˜‚

londonbrian · 03-11-2017 9:11pm

OOM is in the 290s. I think for the stage 2 test they use the RDS and a few hundred do the tests at different times? Anyone know?

rachaelworld · 03-11-2017 9:20pm

Lynchburg wrote: »

Wow, I thought I was quite an intelligent person but my OOM is in the 4000's! What are the right answers?!?? This was my first attempt at a public job assessment, perhaps it's not for me&#55357;&#56834;&#55357;&#56834;

The assessment so far is not a test of intelligence as much as a test of knowing how to be the right sort of person for a public service job. Having had managerial experience so knowing what management want to hear and also just finishing up a TCO position it gives you an insight into how to answer a lot of those questions. I wouldn't worry too much about your score regarding your intelligence the real tests of intelligence if they can be called that will be the aptitude tests that are coming up however a large amount of how well you do on those is down to practise.
Be aware that a lot of these jobs are based on what the "process" is for that job and so they want people who can follow the process not necessarily creative thinkers.

Lynchburg · 03-11-2017 9:30pm

rachaelworld wrote: »

The assessment so far is not a test of intelligence as much as a test of knowing how to be the right sort of person for a public service job. Having had managerial experience so knowing what management want to hear and also just finishing up a TCO position it gives you an insight into how to answer a lot of those questions. I wouldn't worry too much about your score regarding your intelligence the real tests of intelligence if they can be called that will be the aptitude tests that are coming up however a large amount of how well you do on those is down to practise.
Be aware that a lot of these jobs are based on what the "process" is for that job and so they want people who can follow the process not necessarily creative thinkers.

Thanks Rachaelworld! I am a creative type, but also successful in the private sector in administration/clerical roles. So yes, perhaps I've just got to practise and try again. Thanks for the insight.

cornel08biz · 03-11-2017 9:45pm

Hi guys,
First time participating... 1500 s . Does anybody know how many people they called for the next stage last year ?

job seeker · 03-11-2017 10:33pm

Assessment Questionnaire

Your Score: 438
Qualifying Score: 300
OOM: 5436

Yeah!!!!!

L390 · 03-11-2017 11:15pm

What's OOM ???

ronb1412004 · 03-11-2017 11:30pm

Oom stands for order of merit. I scored 535 and my oom 2679.

Not sure how good or bad that is seems in the middle from what I've read on here

L390 · 04-11-2017 12:14am

ronb1412004 wrote: »

I scored 535 and my oom 2679.

I though that's what it meant as soon as I sent it lol ..I got
566 oom 1787

ConorPP · 04-11-2017 2:18am

Hi all!

So glad I found this thread and look forward to the CO-campaign road ahead.
My score is 517 and my OOM (Order Of Merit) is 3280.

Upon seeing my results I was fairly happy with 517 considering you need at least 300. I had no clue at first what OOM meant but then copped that it stood for Order of Merit. I thought to myself so there is 3279 people ahead of me?!?! I then reassured myself (and so should you) that this does not mean you did bad and are not capable. As someone pointed out, this is not an intelligence test, rather a test to see how capable you are for the job. I reckon they are looking for angels, which means us honest folk will be penalised. However I see we have all passed!

Next up are the real tests which can of course be practiced over and over again. My mams friend who will be supervising the tests has said she can really notice who has practiced and who has not. So I recommend getting into the habit of practicing when on the laptop.

I came across an artical in The Independent which gave us some figures:

Apparently there is around 28,500 applicants (bare in mind as one other poster mentioned-everyone and their dog would have applied since it was posted on Facebook)

The Independent reckons 400-600 will be taken on within the first 12-18 months of the recruitment drive.

Around 22,000 is your starting salary with the top being 36,000 which may take up to 18 years to get to. However it is important to note that 22,000-36,000 is the salary for Clerical Officer, which is the entry position to the Civil Service. You should be aiming to climb the ranks and better your salary of course.

Thats it for now folks. I look forward to hearing your stories and experiences along the way. I'll be sharing mine!

Best of luck to everyone!

HiberniaLG · 04-11-2017 2:33am

ConorPP wrote: »

Next up are the real tests which can of course be practiced over and over again. My mams friend who will be supervising the tests has said she can really notice who has practiced and who has not. So I recommend getting into the habit of practicing when on the laptop.

Where can you practice these tests?

Hana98 · 04-11-2017 5:11am

job seeker wrote: »

Assessment Questionnaire

Your Score: 438
Qualifying Score: 300
OOM: 5436

Yeah!!!!!

Something similar for me. But tbh first time for this and not a lot of work put into it. Whereas others wanting it so bad.

Hana98 · 04-11-2017 5:11am

job seeker wrote: »

Assessment Questionnaire

Your Score: 438
Qualifying Score: 300
OOM: 5436

Yeah!!!!!

Something similar for me. But tbh first time for this and not a lot of work put into it. Whereas others wanting it so bad.

dottynic · 04-11-2017 9:21am

ConorPP wrote: »

Hi all!

So glad I found this thread and look forward to the CO-campaign road ahead.
My score is 517 and my OOM (Order Of Merit) is 3280.

Upon seeing my results I was fairly happy with 517 considering you need at least 300. I had no clue at first what OOM meant but then copped that it stood for Order of Merit. I thought to myself so there is 3279 people ahead of me?!?! I then reassured myself (and so should you) that this does not mean you did bad and are not capable. As someone pointed out, this is not an intelligence test, rather a test to see how capable you are for the job. I reckon they are looking for angels, which means us honest folk will be penalised. However I see we have all passed!

Next up are the real tests which can of course be practiced over and over again. My mams friend who will be supervising the tests has said she can really notice who has practiced and who has not. So I recommend getting into the habit of practicing when on the laptop.

I came across an artical in The Independent which gave us some figures:

Apparently there is around 28,500 applicants (bare in mind as one other poster mentioned-everyone and their dog would have applied since it was posted on Facebook)

The Independent reckons 400-600 will be taken on within the first 12-18 months of the recruitment drive.

Around 22,000 is your starting salary with the top being 36,000 which may take up to 18 years to get to. However it is important to note that 22,000-36,000 is the salary for Clerical Officer, which is the entry position to the Civil Service. You should be aiming to climb the ranks and better your salary of course.

Thats it for now folks. I look forward to hearing your stories and experiences along the way. I'll be sharing mine!

Best of luck to everyone!

Where do you find the practice tests

DMcL1971 · 04-11-2017 10:13am

I find the figures ConorPP provides to be very encouraging.

If you consider that they are looking to fill 400-600 places initially. They are going to have to call a lot of people in to whittle them down to those numbers. They will have to call in thousands from this stage. Then many of them won't have the verbal or numerical skills to do the job and will be dropped out at stage 2. Whoever is left will then presumably have to go for an interview and they will lose many many more at that stage before they get down to the final 400-600.

Not to mention that many people may have not been serious in applying for a position, they may have done it on a whim or for the practice. Many will find other jobs in the meantime, many will choose to stay with their current job and not continue. Many will be put off by the low salary. If you live outside Dublin, the living costs of moving to Dublin for a low salary would be dis-heartening.

It will be interesting to see what happens when they start calling people for stage 2. We will soon see how far down the OOM list they are reaching and how quickly they are getting through the numbers.

Anoushka · 04-11-2017 11:13am

ConorPP wrote:

Upon seeing my results I was fairly happy with 517 considering you need at least 300. I had no clue at first what OOM meant but then copped that it stood for Order of Merit. I thought to myself so there is 3279 people ahead of me?!?! I then reassured myself (and so should you) that this does not mean you did bad and are not capable. As someone pointed out, this is not an intelligence test, rather a test to see how capable you are for the job. I reckon they are looking for angels, which means us honest folk will be penalised. However I see we have all passed!

ConorPP wrote:

So glad I found this thread and look forward to the CO-campaign road ahead. My score is 517 and my OOM (Order Of Merit) is 3280.

ConorPP wrote:

Next up are the real tests which can of course be practiced over and over again. My mams friend who will be supervising the tests has said she can really notice who has practiced and who has not. So I recommend getting into the habit of practicing when on the laptop.

ConorPP wrote:

I came across an artical in The Independent which gave us some figures:

ConorPP wrote:

Apparently there is around 28,500 applicants (bare in mind as one other poster mentioned-everyone and their dog would have applied since it was posted on Facebook)

ConorPP wrote:

The Independent reckons 400-600 will be taken on within the first 12-18 months of the recruitment drive.

ConorPP wrote:

Around 22,000 is your starting salary with the top being 36,000 which may take up to 18 years to get to. However it is important to note that 22,000-36,000 is the salary for Clerical Officer, which is the entry position to the Civil Service. You should be aiming to climb the ranks and better your salary of course.

ConorPP wrote:

Thats it for now folks. I look forward to hearing your stories and experiences along the way. I'll be sharing mine!

Hi, where did you get this information from? As far as I know 28500 applicants applied for CO competition 2016 and not 2017. I could not find anywhere how many applicants applied for CO competition 2017.

chughes · 04-11-2017 1:23pm

Your Score: 468
Qualifying Score: 300
OOM: 4730

Be interesting to see how this goes. I did the TCO exam last February and I was placed 1490. I started a TCO position a few weeks ago. I reckon that 4730 is too far down the list to get a call.

Anniesland · 04-11-2017 1:42pm

My husband got test score of 605 and oom of 843. Does he have chance of getting called to stage 2?

ConorPP · 04-11-2017 2:10pm

HiberniaLG wrote: »

Where can you practice these tests?

I don't think I can link just yet but here are the steps to practice the tests:

1. Go to Publicjobs.ie
2. In the search bar type "Sample online tests for entry level and graduate roles"
3. Click the first option.
4. Follow the instructions from there. (You're doing tests for the CO position btw)

ConorPP · 04-11-2017 2:13pm

Anoushka wrote: »

Hi, where did you get this information from? As far as I know 28500 applicants applied for CO competition 2016 and not 2017. I could not find anywhere how many applicants applied for CO competition 2017.

Hi, I don't think I can link just yet but I came across the artical last night and it was dated 3rd November 2017.

ConorPP · 04-11-2017 2:17pm

My sincerest apologies I have sorely misquoted the artical which I posted about previously. At the top of the Artical it gave the date of 3rd November 2017, but that must have been the days date. The artical was actually post July 20th 2014.

My mistake XD

Kamu · 04-11-2017 2:55pm

OOM 4800

Not surprising considering I never taken an assessment questionnaire before, so just happy I passed.

I'm taking solace in the fact that some people who did apply wouldn't have passed stage 1, and other being called to stage 2 won't pass the verbal and numerical tests, and if there are interviews, I imagine others again will fall at that hurdle.

Just means I've a longer wait for a job then I was hoping for. :P

sully123 · 04-11-2017 3:37pm

Anniesland wrote: »

My husband got test score of 605 and oom of 843. Does he have chance of getting called to stage 2?

Absolutely.

Its one of the best ones posted here.

I recon everyone may get called in time

et101 · 04-11-2017 5:04pm

I got a score of 677 with a oom of 130 so fingers crossed I get a call. Just finished a stint with Revenue as TCO but this permanent post would be gift...... here's hoping. Good luck everyone-oh the stress!!!

ConorPP · 04-11-2017 6:18pm

et101 wrote: »

I got a score of 677 with a oom of 130 so fingers crossed I get a call. Just finished a stint with Revenue as TCO but this permanent post would be gift...... here's hoping. Good luck everyone-oh the stress!!!

Great score, congrats!

amazonwomen · 04-11-2017 11:04pm

I started this process in June 2016. Scored quite high. Was informed in March of 2017 that I had passed the interview stage. Heard nothing so I contacted them to find out that I was next on the list. I didn't start work until 16th October. So don't worry and definitely don't put plans on hold while waiting. It's a slow process.

babyboom · 04-11-2017 11:48pm

Hi my score was 605 and my OOM is 892. I'm pretty chuffed having read through the thread. I thought I hadn't done that well. I'm 47 and have been at home with the kids for the past 14 years. It's given my confidence a little bit of a boost. It's hard to get back out there after all these years. Good luck to everyone.

RachelDDD · 05-11-2017 12:14am

babyboom wrote: »

Hi my score was 605 and my OOM is 892. I'm pretty chuffed having read through the thread. I thought I hadn't done that well. I'm 47 and have been at home with the kids for the past 14 years. It's given my confidence a little bit of a boost. It's hard to get back out there after all these years. Good luck to everyone.

Well done! I am same age and same scenario. I scored 00M of 1330 so you should be delighted with yourself. Fingers crossed we both get a new start at working life!

amazonwomen · 05-11-2017 12:20am

Can someone tell me what OOM means

RachelDDD · 05-11-2017 12:23am

amazonwomen wrote: »

Can someone tell me what OOM means

To my knowledge... OOM is Order of Merit - it just means where you came on the list... the lower the better ie. OOM of 100 is better than an OOM of 1000

amazonwomen · 05-11-2017 12:28am

Thank you and the best of luck.

fin12 · 05-11-2017 9:56am

I'm 1,700s OOM, happy with that. I'm in Cork but applied for Dublin cause there are very few permanent vacancies outside Dublin.

mascherano11 · 05-11-2017 10:29am

My OOM is 213 happy enough with that. Any idea what the chances are of me being called to the next stage? How many vacancies is there?

Anoushka · 05-11-2017 11:28am

My OOM is in 190s. Highest OOM I noticed here is in 5000s. I would expect email with invitation to Stage 2 in next couple of weeks. I understand Stage 2 would be supervised test. It seems they are skipping this time online test done at home and go straight for supervised test. Well, that's what it seems to me.

et101 · 05-11-2017 1:53pm

babyboom wrote: »

Hi my score was 605 and my OOM is 892. I'm pretty chuffed having read through the thread. I thought I hadn't done that well. I'm 47 and have been at home with the kids for the past 14 years. It's given my confidence a little bit of a boost. It's hard to get back out there after all these years. Good luck to everyone.

I'm 54 and spent the last 22 years........... yes 22 years...... at home bringing up kids and the idea of getting back out to work was daunting BUT I got the TCO and took the plunge and it worked out grand. Don't be scared cos it's easy to talk yourself out of it. I did it and you can do it too so grab the opportunity and go for it. Best of luck and no doubt you will be brilliant

Ber25 · 05-11-2017 4:35pm

Great to hear from other moms going back to work. I'm 51 and I applied also. Placed 2300 so not sure if I will be called. Does anyone have an idea how many people applied?

babyboom · 05-11-2017 4:57pm

et101 wrote: »

I'm 54 and spent the last 22 years........... yes 22 years...... at home bringing up kids and the idea of getting back out to work was daunting BUT I got the TCO and took the plunge and it worked out grand. Don't be scared cos it's easy to talk yourself out of it. I did it and you can do it too so grab the opportunity and go for it. Best of luck and no doubt you will be brilliant

Great to know I'm not the only one. I'm always talking myself out of it, as you say, but I have to take the plunge some time. I get the jitters just thinking about it. Thanks for the good wishes and best of luck to yourself and everyone on the thead.

isabella5 · 05-11-2017 5:00pm

Yes I'd love to have some idea of how many might be called

Tillfred · 06-11-2017 2:45pm

Score 736
OOM 16
Should be called soon enough, I've been working as a TCO since 2014 in the same Dept.

Civil Service Clerical Officer Campaign 2017 (Dublin)

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