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Animals burn 400m of the Boyne boardwalk at Drogheda

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  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    Meath CC said today it's fully covered under insurance based on a report on LMFM News I heard today.

    I rode by on the bike earlier and it's bad yes but not 400 meters bad i've seen suggested else where, not even close.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,605 ✭✭✭gctest50


    Meath CC said today it's fully covered under insurance based on a report on LMFM

    so where does all this money go then ?


    https://www.gofundme.com/repair-drogheda039s-boardwalk


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,605 ✭✭✭gctest50


    That gofundme looks like a scam :




    Now local Councillor Paul Bell has reassured locals that it can be rebuilt and a county council insurance scheme will pay for it.

    He said: "I am informed that it is council property an it is covered by the insurance which is the Irish Publics insurance scheme

    "I have established that it is County Meath Council that is involved - it is the property of the council and it is covered by the insurance.


  • Posts: 14,344 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    gctest50 wrote: »
    That gofundme looks like a scam :




    Think the GoFundMe was set up properly, in that the money will still be used by the lads at the boyne trail committee or whatever the name is.


    Obviously just not used for the boardwalk repairs themselves as we now know that money is covered.


    Wouldn't be a bad thing to suggest putting it towards some CCTV for the area. Still think this will have a negative impact on the likelihood of the greenway into mornington idea.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,648 ✭✭✭Autochange


    Well my question , regardless , was who said it was arson or started by thugs ?? How does anyone know it wasn’t started by fishermen lighting a disposable BBQ on the river bank?


    ( I prefer not to call scum like this animals....huge disrespect to innocent animals who are regularly abused by scum !)

    maybe it was zeus throwing firing lightening bolts from his arse. Get a grip


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,354 ✭✭✭gebbel


    The gofundme thingy has exceeed the 10 grand target. I’m sure it’s not a scam like someone suggested but it would be good to be updated on exactly what it’s used for.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,410 ✭✭✭positron


    I agree with the above.

    I think Boyneside Trail voluteer group was instrumental in getting the boardwalk built in the first place. And they have been campaingning for Mornington to Navan greenway, which sounds fantastic. I would love to see that happening, will be a huge boost to the area. If the funds get directed towards that campaign (current boardwalk would be part of it of course), I will fully support that.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,467 ✭✭✭✭lawred2


    the sad tools that did this have nothing in their lives so the wanton destruction of the things that others get enjoyment from is as good as it gets for them..

    I detest them and pity them in equal measures.

    I don't know what it is to be such an empty being.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,410 ✭✭✭positron


    Truth is that there at least one, if not more, persons going on around the town with their life as usual right now - fully knowing who did this.

    Perhaps a parent or a sibling of the culprit(s), reading all the news and sensing all the grief - yet can't bring up the courage to do the right thing.

    it's a shame. They are suffering, so is rest of the town - for the mindless thuggery of some moron(s).


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,605 ✭✭✭gctest50


    gebbel wrote: »
    The gofundme thingy has exceeed the 10 grand target. I’m sure it’s not a scam like someone suggested but it would be good to be updated on exactly what it’s used for.


    That was my point - what exactly are the funds collected going be used for ?

    All donations received will go to the Boyneside Trail Committee (all volunteers) who will direct the funds into the work needed to repair the boardwalk.


    The structure is insured, the council will get on with it and be paid


  • Posts: 14,344 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    I seen today they're already underway sorting it.

    JCB dragged the burned wreck away, they cut it off from the undamaged section, and have a load of stones in there now. I hope they get it back to normal as soon as.

    They've also strimmed back all of the hedging and overgrowth. I presume that was planned, anyway.


    It does bug me that they're gonna stick down a plywood alternative for the moment though. Surely a ply alternative, that has to be pulled up and replaced with the proper stuff, is just kicking the can down the road a bit? Would it not make more sense to get stuck in, get the proper materials in and go for a proper repair straightaway.

    I don't think m/any would object to them skipping the tendering process and simply reverting to whoever did the initial install of the boardwalk. I know 'that's not the way it's done', but what harm would it do given the circumstances.


  • Posts: 3,656 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    I seen today they're already underway sorting it.

    JCB dragged the burned wreck away, they cut it off from the undamaged section, and have a load of stones in there now. I hope they get it back to normal as soon as.

    They've also strimmed back all of the hedging and overgrowth. I presume that was planned, anyway.


    It does bug me that they're gonna stick down a plywood alternative for the moment though. Surely a ply alternative, that has to be pulled up and replaced with the proper stuff, is just kicking the can down the road a bit? Would it not make more sense to get stuck in, get the proper materials in and go for a proper repair straightaway.

    I don't think m/any would object to them skipping the tendering process and simply reverting to whoever did the initial install of the boardwalk. I know 'that's not the way it's done', but what harm would it do given the circumstances.

    With the Fleadh just 2 weeks away I would say that's their priority - get something in place quickly. At least it means the boardwalk can reopen.
    I'd imagine sourcing the recyclable materials for the real deal and getting that put in would take more than 2 weeks!!

    Plus if its public money (taxpayer's!) they simply cant skip the tendering process (creating precedent surely)

    We should be thankful something is being done quickly and we probably have the Fleadh to thank for that!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,037 ✭✭✭duffman3833


    With the Fleadh just 2 weeks away I would say that's their priority - get something in place quickly. At least it means the boardwalk can reopen.
    I'd imagine sourcing the recyclable materials for the real deal and getting that put in would take more than 2 weeks!!

    Plus if its public money (taxpayer's!) they simply cant skip the tendering process (creating precedent surely)

    We should be thankful something is being done quickly and we probably have the Fleadh to thank for that!


    exactly, they did mention that it could be months before the rebuild to start so its good to see something going in place for the Fleadh


  • Posts: 14,344 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    So it seems the stone I seen being put in place is the temporary solution.


    So it will now be, i presume, a hardcore base and a compacted gravel finish on top of it.

    Better than Ply, I suppose, but in relation to sourcing the correct materials, I doubt it would be that difficult? I'd imagine it's a common enough boardwalk design/material and not unique to Drogheda?

    That said, they reckon Eddie Phelan (a structural engineer i do believe, and chairman of the committee down there) reckons a cost of 150-200k to fix the section.


    Now, call me mad, but is that not an eye-wateringly expensive, borderline obnoxious price?

    As far as I am aware, the initial boardwalk project was 850,000. This damaged section is not 1/5th of the boardwalk. There's no 'trial and error' to see what works best or a risk of it collapsing due to the wrong materials. It's a copy/paste job of what was already there.


    150-200k sounds like someone chancing their arm. The 'insurance job' price rather than the 'real' price.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,825 ✭✭✭IvoryTower


    be nice if they came out and said what the 10k that was raised will go towards


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  • Posts: 14,344 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    IvoryTower wrote: »
    be nice if they came out and said what the 10k that was raised will go towards


    I'm still adamant that should go towards CCTV. You'd only need one camera either end. Tap into the electricity supply off the Cable Bridge and install one that side of the boardwalk at the ramparts junction. Then use Oldbridge's power to get another one overlooking that side of the boardwalk.


    If anything happens on the boardwalk you'd probably not see it take place, but you'd have a good idea who was on the boardwalk at the time of the assault/robbery/etc. taking place.


    I know 10k wouldn't cover it (even though it's loads of money and really should cover it) but it would surely pay towards the cost.


    I think Duleek got 11 Cameras installed and set up for €50k. No reason you couldn't stick 2-3 cameras on the boardwalk with 10k?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,825 ✭✭✭IvoryTower


    We have seen many occasions recently where people/community power has won out and in most cases it has been where the people have gone against the administration. On the Boyneside trail again the community voice has been heard but in this case the community have worked with the administration to turn adversity into victory. The gofundme campaign is now closed, the point has been well made, the short term solution will be in place for the Fleadh and the final solution has been committed. The next step is presenting the communities contribution to the local authority not only to help with the cost but also as a symbol of our ownership! Congratulations and well done to all involved


    So wee just raised 10k for meath by sounds of it ha


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,043 ✭✭✭gipi


    How about putting the money raised up as a reward for information leading to a conviction?

    Might make someone turn on their mate(s)....?


  • Posts: 14,344 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    gipi wrote: »
    How about putting the money raised up as a reward for information leading to a conviction?

    Might make someone turn on their mate(s)....?




    To be honest, I'd rather it was put towards CCTV as, even if Little Johnny is arrested, the courts will take his sob story and parents addiction issues etc. and give him a slap on the wrist.

    If it were me that burned it, I'd be more concerned about the general public knowing, than the Gardai. I'd say whoever did it may well get a good hiding (or at least so I hope).


  • Posts: 14,344 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Took a walk on the boardwalk today.

    The burned part of the walk has been replaced with a gravel path, which is mostly compacted down to near-concrete levels. I presume that what will happen here (you heard it here first!) is that Meath CoCo will get the money to return the boardwalk to it's former glory, but instead, will tarmac the gravel area and leave it as a footpath section of the walk.

    So the boardwalk will never return to that section in my opinion (sad as it is).

    The (I suppose) plus side is that I have heard a name of a person floating around that's allegedly responsible. I'm hoping that'll spread a bit further around town. Of course, nothing will ever happen him in the judicial world. Unless the turns himself in and brings the petrol/gloves and a selfie of him lighting the fire, the Gardai will likely have no interest. Such is this great little country of ours.



    Despite the (still!) burning smell, the walk is still a lovely one and I'm glad it's something I can still get out and do (id be on it regularly).

    I notice the remains of the boardwalk are stored on OPWs land beside Oldbridge. It's a bit mad looking at it torn up out of place. Looks like a broken and burned rollercoaster track. :o


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,410 ✭✭✭positron


    Sorry for digging up a 7 month old thread but thought this is relevant.

    Here's a list of all the projects that was allocated funds in the couple of weeks ago: https://static.rasset.ie/documents/news/2018/11/outdoor-recreation-infrastructure-scheme-2018.pdf

    Nothing for poor old Drogheda or Boyne.

    They are making great progress on Royal Canal walkway. Can we even dream of a project starting from Mornington and heading all the way to Navan and beyond to Trim and perhaps even join the Royal Canal Way? Imagine being able to ride from Mornington to Longford along the river! Perhaps just a pipe dream!


  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    Thought I saw something mentioned recently about a link from Kildare up as far as newgrange.

    At this stage though I'd be happy just for them to make good the section between the park and where the boardwalk begins proper. Rode it recently on a MTB and it wasn't pleasant.


  • Posts: 14,344 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Thought I saw something mentioned recently about a link from Kildare up as far as newgrange.

    At this stage though I'd be happy just for them to make good the section between the park and where the boardwalk begins proper. Rode it recently on a MTB and it wasn't pleasant.




    Would agree with that.


    There are sections that are un-walkable after even a small bit of rain.


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