The Jumpers are Coming 2018/19

Motivator · 05-12-2018 8:22pm

Auroras_encore wrote: »

why could you not have min ? dont think another 4 furlongs will make much difference to him , The only horse around that can beat him is altior who is well on his way to being up there with sprinter sacre

I’d imagine he can’t have Min for the same reasons I can’t. Granted he finished runner up to Altior at the Festival but look at the races he’s won as a chaser: He beat an 11 year old Simply Ned, a 140 rated Flaxen Flare and Three Wise Men who is rated about 130 over fences. He is nowhere near as good as people think he is and he never will be.

I think the fact he’s won €300+k in his career is testament to Willie Mullins and how well he places his horses. It’s mind boggling to think Min has won that much considering the horses he has beaten.

Dr. Bre · 05-12-2018 8:38pm

Don’t forget UDS has fallen in the past

kiers47 · 05-12-2018 9:37pm

Motivator wrote: »

I’d imagine he can’t have Min for the same reasons I can’t. Granted he finished runner up to Altior at the Festival but look at the races he’s won as a chaser: He beat an 11 year old Simply Ned, a 140 rated Flaxen Flare and Three Wise Men who is rated about 130 over fences. He is nowhere near as good as people think he is and he never will be.

I think the fact he’s won €300+k in his career is testament to Willie Mullins and how well he places his horses. It’s mind boggling to think Min has won that much considering the horses he has beaten.

In fairness Simply Ned got that race in the stewards room and fully justified. He for sure would have won that had he not been hampered.

kfallon · 05-12-2018 10:05pm

kiers47 wrote: »

In fairness Simply Ned got that race in the stewards room and fully justified. He for sure would have won that had he not been hampered.

Min beat him at Dublin Racing Festival in February!

kiers47 · 06-12-2018 11:14am

Just the 4 runners in the Tingle Creek. Poor enough all be it 4 runners who have a live chance.
Altior, Saint Calvados, Sceau Royal, Un De Sceaux

Slattsy · 06-12-2018 11:34am

Slattsy wrote: »

Who wins the Tingle Creek?

Ground potentially going to be very soft. I suppose if there's ever a time to beat Altior it's first time out on soft ground.

UDS for me at 6s after he was confirmed earlier. I think only 4 or 5 go to post for this if I'm reading it right!

Well I called that bit right anyway!!

Slattsy · 06-12-2018 11:36am

What a fúcking race though.

kiers47 · 06-12-2018 12:11pm

Slattsy wrote: »

What a fúcking race though.

Its a belter alright. UDS and Saint Calvados going hell for leather. Should set up perfectly for Altior.

Badabing · 06-12-2018 12:25pm

With un de sceaux at Sandown where does min go? Cork i presume. Great Field aswell

Slattsy · 06-12-2018 12:28pm

kiers47 wrote: »

Its a belter alright. UDS and Saint Calvados going hell for leather. Should set up perfectly for Altior.

Be interesting as to who lets who take the lead here. Sheehan could lose the head completely if Ruby takes him on.

kiers47 · 06-12-2018 12:31pm

Badabing wrote: »

With un de sceaux at Sandown where does min go? Cork i presume. Great Field aswell

I would imagine Min is going to the John Durkan. Great Field could slot in in the Hilly Way then.
But trying to guess what Willie is thinking is a dangerous game.

longshotvalue · 06-12-2018 2:07pm

kiers47 wrote: »

Just the 4 runners in the Tingle Creek. Poor enough all be it 4 runners who have a live chance.
Altior, Saint Calvados, Sceau Royal, Un De Sceaux

Thats about as good a 4 runner race as your ever likely to see.

Saint Calvados will go too quick and UDS might follow him but will stay better on the ground and if the other 2 let them go too far in front itll suit UDS.

F**k it its probably better to have no, no hopers getting in the way.

Odds of this being the race of the season are fairly short, as lets face it on normal Cheltenham ground in march Altior just wins..

HandsomeBob · 06-12-2018 6:41pm

Dr. Bre wrote: »

Don’t forget UDS has fallen in the past

UDS has put that behind him over the last 2 years if I'm not mistaken. The horse has matured brilliantly.

That being said last March was disappointing. It amuses me that Willie sends him to the Tingle yet again against the likes of Altior when we all know where he'll end up next March regardless of what the result will be on Saturday.

Never seen more dicking around with a horse.

Badabing · 06-12-2018 7:25pm

I'm sure the owners wanted one last crack at Tingle Creek and Altior. Probably only has 2 more runs this season anyway.

Fanny Wank · 06-12-2018 8:11pm

Don't think one could ever get tired of seeing this race, has to be accompanied by Simon Holt's commentary though

https://twitter.com/racing_uk/status/1070754992284413952?s=19

sdoc13 · 06-12-2018 9:27pm

Fanny **** wrote:

Don't think one could ever get tired of seeing this race, has to be accompanied by Simon Holt's commentary though

One of my favourite ever races.

gillamandango · 07-12-2018 1:29am

Back when BG could ride a finish :rolleyes:

Fanny **** wrote: »

Don't think one could ever get tired of seeing this race, has to be accompanied by Simon Holt's commentary though

https://twitter.com/racing_uk/status/1070754992284413952?s=19

Dr. Bre · 07-12-2018 11:07am

Geraghty gets stick on here

akelly02 · 07-12-2018 11:22am

Dr. Bre wrote: »

Geraghty gets stick on here

and rightly so

posturingpat · 07-12-2018 11:33am

Whatever about some other aspects of his riding the fact Geraghtys ability in a finish is being questioned confirms to me people are either talking through their pocket or just following the crowd in talking rubbish.
Still in top couple of riders in a finish, i genuinely can't think of one current rider id prefer in a finish.

Gavin "shels" · 07-12-2018 11:33am

Looking forward to Fury Road on Sunday to see if the hype is real!

akelly02 · 07-12-2018 11:42am

posturingpat wrote: »

Whatever about some other aspects of his riding the fact Geraghtys ability in a finish is being questioned confirms to me people are either talking through their pocket or just following the crowd in talking rubbish.
Still in top couple of riders in a finish, i genuinely can't think of one current rider id prefer in a finish.

dickie johnson says hello

gillamandango · 07-12-2018 11:43am

Le Richebourg says hello. I for one am not talking through my pocket as I very rarely back horses he's on these days but I do think he lost his drive and gone somewhat soft since he got the JP retainer

posturingpat · 07-12-2018 12:04pm

akelly02 wrote: »

dickie johnson says hello

He was the one i had in My head soon as i posted so Nice to See us agree on something

posturingpat · 07-12-2018 12:08pm

gillamandango wrote: »

Le Richebourg says hello. I for one am not talking through my pocket as I very rarely back horses he's on these days but I do think he lost his drive and gone somewhat soft since he got the JP retainer

Wow. Le richebourg was Never going to outstay Delta work on that run in. I actually let out a laugh when i read that. DW is Going to be a cracking 3 miler and Le richebourg is be almost certain will Drop to 2.
Like really wow.

kiers47 · 07-12-2018 12:12pm

gillamandango wrote: »

Le Richebourg says hello. I for one am not talking through my pocket as I very rarely back horses he's on these days but I do think he lost his drive and gone somewhat soft since he got the JP retainer

Will ya stop. You cannot possibly blame Geraghty for Le Richebourg. Delta Work was probably value for more than the winning margin tbh. Only reason he got so close was he pinged the last and DW was a bit clumsy at it. The best horse certainly won that race on the day.

zpehtsfd · 07-12-2018 3:37pm

posturingpat wrote: »

Whatever about some other aspects of his riding the fact Geraghtys ability in a finish is being questioned confirms to me people are either talking through their pocket or just following the crowd in talking rubbish.
Still in top couple of riders in a finish, i genuinely can't think of one current rider id prefer in a finish.

No good being a great man in a finish if you can't manage to get a horse in a winning position. Always been a fan of his but he rode all last season like his mind was not on the game. Horses just didn't want to jump or travel for him. It was shockingly bad. imo.

kiers47 · 07-12-2018 3:41pm

zpehtsfd wrote: »

No good being a great man in a finish if you can't manage to get a horse in a winning position. Always been a fan of his but he rode all last season like his mind was not on the game. Horses just didn't want to jump or travel for him. It was shockingly bad. imo.

Right on queue

paddy no 11 · 07-12-2018 5:32pm

Is Sceau royal a great price lads, altior first time out on softish ground? He's a far superior horse but surely not odds on?

akelly02 · 07-12-2018 5:34pm

paddy no 11 wrote: »

Is Sceau royal a great price lads, altior first time out on softish ground? He's a far superior horse but surely not odds on?

if it was better ground id give sceau royal a great chance. on this ground i just think altior grinds it out

The Mig · 07-12-2018 5:37pm

Serious performance by Defi Du Seuil

kiers47 · 07-12-2018 5:51pm

The Mig wrote: »

Serious performance by Defi Du Seuil

Very good alright. Topofthegame also needs marking up. Gave them 20 lengths at the start.

The Mig · 07-12-2018 5:58pm

Yeah disappointing he didn't jump off level with them

culline · 12-12-2018 1:32am

I see WH are 9/1 on Laurina to go unbeaten this year. Only has to run once to validate bet. SkyB are 6/1 the same market but the horse has to run minimum three times, in the 18-19 NH season. 9/1 seems a touch big. Thoughts?

Joe_ Public · 12-12-2018 2:26am

culline wrote: »

I see WH are 9/1 on Laurina to go unbeaten this year. Only has to run once to validate bet. SkyB are 6/1 the same market but the horse has to run minimum three times, in the 18-19 NH season. 9/1 seems a touch big. Thoughts?

Interesting one. Considering you can back her at 5s for the mares and over 6s for the champion, those odds look nothing special, but that 9s still might tempt me. If she wins this weekend, there’s a chance they’ll skip xmas, head straight to festival and then likely punchestown where she’d be warm fav you’d imagine if still unbeaten.
Only thing puts me off is the prospect of having to beat Buvair Dair. She’d have to be another Annie power to do that and not sure I can have her in that league.

elderberry · 13-12-2018 12:09pm

kiers47 wrote: »

Very good alright. Topofthegame also needs marking up. Gave them 20 lengths at the start.

Nicholls seems to really like him, planning to go for Feltham in Kempton next. Think Santini being aimed at that too.

Fanny Wank · 16-12-2018 8:54pm

https://twitter.com/rpbloodstock/status/1074378337487851521?s=19

The Mig · 16-12-2018 10:27pm

The boom is back

BumperD · 19-12-2018 4:13pm

Sizing John update

https://www.racingpost.com/news/latest/sizing-john-to-miss-leopardstown-as-jessica-harrington-plays-waiting-game/358170

akelly02 · 19-12-2018 4:14pm

BumperD wrote: »

Sizing John update

https://www.racingpost.com/news/latest/sizing-john-to-miss-leopardstown-as-jessica-harrington-plays-waiting-game/358170

not a hope he comes back any way right

BumperD · 23-12-2018 12:54am

I recall Henderson saying he might step Altior up in trip next season after his recent win, and that he was lame and sore post race against un de sceux after that really tough race. I have a strong feeling that something will beat him this march in the Champion Chase. 1/2 fav

BumperD · 23-12-2018 6:42pm

Humm surprise entry for Altior

https://www.racingpost.com/news/latest/altior-to-light-up-kempton-on-thursday-in-desert-orchid-chase/358654

Still, I’m thinking something will come out of the woodwork to challenge him in March if he makes it

Footpad race next week will be interesting

BumperD · 01-01-2019 6:18pm

Well, all we have is few big meetings left trials day end of January and then the fabulous Dublin Racing Festival being two of them. 10 weeks left to the first of the big spring festivals. It’s a very blurred and odd looking season so far.

Dr. Bre · 01-01-2019 9:10pm

The gold cup is so open!

BumperD · 03-01-2019 6:53pm

Next Destination out for season

https://www.sportinglife.com/racing/news/next-destination-out-for-the-season/156849

Slattsy · 03-01-2019 7:57pm

BumperD wrote: »

Next Destination out for season

https://www.sportinglife.com/racing/news/next-destination-out-for-the-season/156849

Knew there was something up!

Badabing · 04-01-2019 12:29pm

Laurina confirmed for Sandown tomorrow 1.50 race moved for ITV. Ruby on board.

abarkie · 04-01-2019 12:42pm

Badabing wrote: »

Laurina confirmed for Sandown tomorrow 1.50 race moved for ITV. Ruby on board.

Let's hope the ferry doesn't get cancelled

BumperD · 04-01-2019 12:44pm

Other than the experience of traveling, not sure what else will be achieved, mares listed event with 4 20 lb give or take inferior runners hardly tests her

Johner · 04-01-2019 1:00pm

I fancy Elixer Du Nutz tomorrow in the Tolworth, I think it should be favourite. Looks a completely different horse this season, hopefully the ground won’t be too much of an issue.

The Jumpers are Coming 2018/19

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