Hair transplant diary (ongoing)

everlast75 · 06-11-2018 11:34pm

ceistagam wrote: »

I too have had a consultation with Lorraine in Ailesbury (cost €50) some time back and I am still considering my options. Consultation went well but it was pretty much what I had heard from other consultations at other clinics.

Really I would want to meet with the surgeon and a previous client as I do find it a daunting task to establish the best clinic to go with. In saying that I have found many positive comments on Ailesbury online but for me it is about seeing and hearing this first hand. Something I am surprised clinics don't offer as standard procedure.

The surgeons fly in from the Uk, that's why they aren't on hand to meet.

I'm going to contact Vinci up north. See if the price is more competitive.

Plus, I was told they would only do the front 3rd. My hair is the same all over the top so if the other 2/3rd could be done, I would want that

ceistagam · 15-11-2018 2:15pm

everlast75 wrote: »

The surgeons fly in from the Uk, that's why they aren't on hand to meet.

I'm going to contact Vinci up north. See if the price is more competitive.

Plus, I was told they would only do the front 3rd. My hair is the same all over the top so if the other 2/3rd could be done, I would want that

So would I be right in saying you would not know the surgeons name until the day of procedure?

Heiser · 12-01-2019 7:09pm

I'm planning on going to Turkey for a hair transplant in April. I also need to get some dental work done and plan on getting it while im there. I need crowns so will need 3 dental visits, 2 of which will be after my transplant. Has anyone that's had a transplant tell me if thy think this would be ok?

EltonJohn69 · 12-01-2019 7:41pm

So... if you get a transplant do you have to take finasteride ? or is it specific clinics recommend it ? Anyone get a a successful transplant and not take finasteride ?

St1mpMeister · 12-01-2019 8:01pm

Heiser wrote: »

I'm planning on going to Turkey for a hair transplant in April. I also need to get some dental work done and plan on getting it while im there. I need crowns so will need 3 dental visits, 2 of which will be after my transplant. Has anyone that's had a transplant tell me if thy think this would be ok?

Hmm you need to sort of leave your head untouched for a day or so after the operation and even after that need to refrain from taking any extra meds or doing anything stressful to keep blood pressure down while the roots take hold so probably not a good idea to combine both.

I'd say get the dental work done and then arrange a separate trip over rather than trying to combine both.

EltonJohn69 wrote: »

So... if you get a transplant do you have to take finasteride ? or is it specific clinics recommend it ? Anyone get a a successful transplant and not take finasteride ?

No, once you get the operation done you don't need to take any more meds.

A bit of Regaine for a few months after the operation is a good way to speed up growth, but not required.

iebamm2580 · 13-01-2019 12:51am

Can anybody who has had a hair transplant post up before and after pics and info such as where they got it done and if they are taking meds. I Presumed you would have to keep taking fin after the transplant as the hair will continue to fall out around the transplanted hair as time goes on.

EltonJohn69 · 17-01-2019 11:59am

https://www.kslclinic.co.uk

has anybody any experience with this clinic/ knowledge of costs.... seems quite popular with minor uk tv celebrities......

EltonJohn69 · 17-01-2019 12:05pm

https://www.theguardian.com/money/2018/mar/31/ksl-brand-hair-transplant-mine-left-me-financially-broken

jaysus... some nightmare stories !!!

iebamm2580 · 17-01-2019 12:28pm

as far as i know, that clinic get docs from turkey and places to do celebs procedures and then post up the results as there own. If thats true they should be closed down.

BorneTobyWilde · 18-01-2019 12:57am

eoing90 wrote: »

Just got a hair transplant done on Monday here in Dublin.
On day three of recovery and have to say its coming along great at the moment.
If anyone has any questions feel free to ask.

Who did it
How much
WHat area did you do
How many grafts

Hunchback · 22-01-2019 1:09am

St1mpMeister wrote:

I did my research and know that you need to do as little as possible for the days following the procedure in order to keep blood pressure fairly even to avoid any excessive blood rushing to the head which might shock the new follicles that are taking root. I just stayed at home watching the entire boxset of The Hobbit extended edition

What I would love to know is if it could be possible that I, as someone who is like pretty bald on top with a big round bald circle in the back of my head and bald at the front, be able to go to work after 2 weeks without it being really obvious that I had a hair transplant? My hair is about 2 inches long at the moment

speedboatchase · 22-01-2019 9:11am

Hunchback wrote: »

What I would love to know is if it could be possible that I, as someone who is like pretty bald on top with a big round bald circle in the back of my head and bald at the front, be able to go to work after 2 weeks without it being really obvious that I had a hair transplant? My hair is about 2 inches long at the moment

Yeah, the scabs will be gone after one week and most of the redness will be gone by two weeks. I returned to work after two weeks and it was fine. Bear in mind that the donor area is completed shaved prior to the procedure, so that back/sides will be around 1/2" length two weeks later.

EltonJohn69 · 22-01-2019 7:01pm

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YIlu_lAsheE&t=1s

https://www.hrbr.ie/blog/james-kavanagh-hair-transplant/?fbclid=IwAR2-oE6hgben6dCwmVvBRpk8nXxPiYhorb7ODk8XXfJPgNnazTv4ZrOdRUw

An interesting video of a search for a hair transplant in Turkey and going to HRBR.... its basically a paid advertisement... but if you can afford it HRBR really seems to be they way to go...i assume its considered the best in Ireland and that they don't just use the best doctors for celebrities ?

speedboatchase · 28-01-2019 6:19am

3.5 year update!

iebamm2580 · 28-01-2019 2:49pm

Do you still use fin and minox man, looks like a top class transplant to be fair, was it dr saifi in poland?

helimachoptor · 28-01-2019 2:52pm

@speedboat, jesus 3.5 years, time has flown!

Looks great, congrats!

speedboatchase · 29-01-2019 8:11am

iebamm2580 wrote: »

Do you still use fin and minox man, looks like a top class transplant to be fair, was it dr saifi in poland?

Still use both. It was Dr Doganay in Antalya, Turkey.

EltonJohn69 · 29-01-2019 9:53am

speedboatchase wrote: »

Still use both. It was Dr Doganay in Antalya, Turkey.

Any side effects ?

speedboatchase · 29-01-2019 10:42am

EltonJohn69 wrote: »

Any side effects ?

None that I'm aware of. Downstairs is working fine!

Patient11 · 30-01-2019 2:36am

EltonJohn69 wrote: »

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YIlu_lAsheE&t=1s

https://www.hrbr.ie/blog/james-kavanagh-hair-transplant/?fbclid=IwAR2-oE6hgben6dCwmVvBRpk8nXxPiYhorb7ODk8XXfJPgNnazTv4ZrOdRUw

An interesting video of a search for a hair transplant in Turkey and going to HRBR.... its basically a paid advertisement... but if you can afford it HRBR really seems to be they way to go...i assume its considered the best in Ireland and that they don't just use the best doctors for celebrities ?

Kavanagh admitted he got a "free" hair transplant from HRBR.

Its no wonder so many celebrities go to HRBR when they get free hair transplants.

RSfYwwk

EltonJohn69 · 30-01-2019 11:18am

Patient11 wrote: »

Kavanagh admitted he got a "free" hair transplant from HRBR.

Its no wonder so many celebrities go to HRBR when they get free hair transplants.

I assume they use the same doctors for celebrities and non celebrities in HRBR ? Unlike some places in the UK

HRBR seems to be the way to go if you can afford it ?

Patient11 · 30-01-2019 1:57pm

EltonJohn69 wrote: »

HRBR seems to be the way to go if you can afford it ?

Apart from being a rip off the only thing HRBR are good at is PR.

One of Ireland's most respected Doctor's Andrew Rynne is on record of saying that he is "ashamed" to have the owner of HRBR as a colleague and believes that he is "a disgrace to medical profession".

Before you go to HRBR you should ask Dr. Andrew Rynne what he thinks of the owner of the clinic.

Hardtochoose · 30-01-2019 2:53pm

St1mpMeister wrote: »

lots of discussion of Ailesbury in this thread

A few of us have gone and it's worked out well. I'll probably stick up before/after pics closer to end of summer once significant growth is there (baby hairs right now).

Any before/after pics?

Hardtochoose · 30-01-2019 2:54pm

Dr.Winston O'Boogie wrote: »

I had mine done and didn't shave my head. Just had to grow it to a certain length beforehand so the bit they shaved would be covered by other hair.

You got FUT in Ailesbury? How are you finding it now ? Any before / after pics? Would you recommend them?

EltonJohn69 · 30-01-2019 9:29pm

Patient11 wrote: »

Apart from being a rip off the only thing HRBR are good at is PR.

One of Ireland's most respected Doctor's Andrew Rynne is on record of saying that he is "ashamed" to have the owner of HRBR as a colleague and believes that he is "a disgrace to medical profession".

Before you go to HRBR you should ask Dr. Andrew Rynne what he thinks of the owner of the clinic.

Did he say this in article ? I can't find anything online ? I haven't really seen anything negative about HRBR......

Wibbs · 30-01-2019 10:49pm

speedboatchase wrote: »

3.5 year update!

Well feck me SB, it worked out very well for you.

In another 3.5 years I imagine this.

Fair play.

Patient11 · 02-02-2019 10:40pm

EltonJohn69 wrote: »

Did he say this in article ? I can't find anything online ? I haven't really seen anything negative about HRBR......

Dr Rynne posted that he was "ashamed" to have the owner of HRBR as a colleague on their youtube channel but they deleted his comment.

Many of Dr Rynne's patients are former HRBR patients who were messed up by taking Finasteride. HRBR won't tell you that for some people the side effects of Finasteride can be permanent.

You can see here what Dr Rynne has to say about Doctors who peddle Finasteride.

https://www.quora.com/What-kind-of-doctor-prescribes-Finasteride-or-similar-hair-loss-drugs/answer/Andrew-Rynne?share=f4bd0157

The kind of doctor who prescribes Finasteride for the natural phenomena that is male pattern balding is a doctor who puts money, profit and greed before good medical practice and ethics.
Every doctor now knows or should know that Finasteride can carry horrible sexual side-effects that can last for a lifetime and for which there currently is no cure. These permanent side-effects can include genital shrinkage, genital numbness, erectile dysfunction, loss of libido, Peyronies Disease, decreased ejaculate and suicidal ideation.
Now if you want to find a "doctor" who is prepared to risk these side effect in an otherwise perfectly healthy young man then you go right ahead. But don't say you were not warned. Post Finasteride Syndrome is not a rare disease. I'm dealing with new cases at least once every two weeks. I feel so sorry for them, there is so little that I can do.

BorneTobyWilde · 03-02-2019 3:52am

The millions of millions of people using the drug world wide would say different. Finasteride does not prevent erectile dysfunction, that in itself is a health problem that some get whether on the drug or not, but the odds would suggest that if millions and millions of people world wide are on finasteride then some of those people would suffer from , erectile dysfunction, like some will suffer from a sore toe, or an aching back, or a pimple on their arse, or get a puncture on their car, or trip over a dog. Finasteride does not make you immune to other problems you may suffer in life, it's a handy excuse though.

Patient11 · 03-02-2019 4:12am

BorneTobyWilde wrote: »

The millions of millions of people using the drug world wide would say different. Finasteride does not prevent erectile dysfunction, that in itself is a health problem that some get whether on the drug or not, but the odds would suggest that if millions and millions of people world wide are on finasteride then some of those people would suffer from , erectile dysfunction, like some will suffer from a sore toe, or an aching back, or a pimple on their arse, or get a puncture on their car, or trip over a dog. Finasteride does not make you immune to other problems you may suffer in life, it's a handy excuse though.

The side effects associated with Finasteride go way beyond ED.

Basically for some people the drug causes their endocrine system to "crash" and they are never the same again.

"Penile shrinkage and numbnes" "Suicidal ideation" "Female-like breast development and enlargement" "Severe memory/recall impairment" and"Decreased or complete loss of sex drive" Are just some of the listed side effects.

https://medsafe.govt.nz/profs/PUArticles/March2016/PostFinasterideSyndrome.htm

It should be noted that Finasteride is also given to transgenders to help them transition.

LegacyUser · 03-02-2019 4:28am

Lads just to say, Finasteride is some nasty drug if you get side effects, a good friend took about two years to be right after taking it for a short time, he was prescribed it in dublin and got horrific effects, caused impotence, he basically couldn’t get it up and lost morning erections etc, severe anxiety, lost his relationship over it, was a shell of himself, he’s only getting back to normal last year, it’s a hormone altering drug which messes with what makes you a man, be very careful with it.

EltonJohn69 · 03-02-2019 11:21am

Probably one in a hundred get side effects.... worth the risk ?

Patient11 · 03-02-2019 6:49pm

EltonJohn69 wrote: »

Probably one in a hundred get side effects.... worth the risk ?

It's russian roulette.

Some people can take the drug for years or even decades without problems and then they "crash" and they are never the same again.

Cartroubles · 03-02-2019 6:53pm

Have any completely bald people gotten decent results from hair transplants?

BorneTobyWilde · 03-02-2019 7:17pm

Cartroubles wrote: »

Have any completely bald people gotten decent results from hair transplants?

You need hair to transplant of course, but yes you can be almost bald and transplant hair
Look at his case.

https://www.hairlosstalk.com/interact/threads/my-5300-fue-turkey-7-months-since-op.104538/

speedboatchase · 03-02-2019 7:31pm

Cartroubles wrote: »

Have any completely bald people gotten decent results from hair transplants?

There's a certain level of baldness (like Larry David) where it's just not possible, as there wouldn't be enough grafts from the donor area to cover the recipient area (rest of head). Also, the natural thickness of your hair will dictate how effective your results will be. My op was 2250 grafts (my hair is naturally quite thin) and I was told that I have 2000 viable grafts left. So that's just 4250 grafts maximum, that I could spread over likely two ops. For someone on the furthest end of the Norwood scale, you'd need at least 6,000 grafts.

EltonJohn69 · 03-02-2019 9:47pm

Any rogaine users here ? Going to start it next week... it will feel good doing something about my slowly dieing hair.... do people get good results ? Do they sell it in boots ?

iebamm2580 · 05-02-2019 8:18am

Anybody here go to Dr Andre Nel, he done kerry footballer Darren o Sullivan's hair which looks likes a very decent result and he trained with alot of the the most renowned hair loss surgeons worldwide.

Passenger · 05-02-2019 9:50am

EltonJohn69 wrote: »

Any rogaine users here ? Going to start it next week... it will feel good doing something about my slowly dieing hair.... do people get good results ? Do they sell it in boots ?

It's effects are marginal to be honest. I experienced zero regrowth but it slowed down the rate of hairloss ever so slightly. Overall, not worth the money and effort imho. It's worth a try just to say you've tried it but buy from the UK Boots store and use Parcel Motel to ship as it's much better value.

EltonJohn69 · 05-02-2019 10:16am

Passenger wrote: »

It's effects are marginal to be honest. I experienced zero regrowth but it slowed down the rate of hairloss ever so slightly. Overall, not worth the money and effort imho. It's worth a try just to say you've tried it but buy from the UK Boots store and use Parcel Motel to ship as it's much better value.

Did you experience much of a shed when you initially used it ? Apparently that is how you know it is working

everlast75 · 05-02-2019 10:31am

iebamm2580 wrote: »

Anybody here go to Dr Andre Nel, he done kerry footballer Darren o Sullivan's hair which looks likes a very decent result and he trained with alot of the the most renowned hair loss surgeons worldwide.

I've been to him 3 or 4 times, when he prescribed finasteride, recommended a brand of shampoo, some light therapy and one of those rollers for your scalp.

He said combined, they are the best non-surgical solutions for hairloss.

He then offered the pigmentation procedure.

He did offer an operation but I did not follow up on the latter two.

He struck me as a nice guy and not heavy on the sales end of things.

EltonJohn69 · 05-02-2019 10:41am

everlast75 wrote: »

I've been to him 3 or 4 times, when he prescribed finasteride, recommended a brand of shampoo, some light therapy and one of those rollers for your scalp.

He said combined, they are the best non-surgical solutions for hairloss.

He then offered the pigmentation procedure.

He did offer an operation but I did not follow up on the latter two.

He struck me as a nice guy and not heavy on the sales end of things.

What was the shampoo that he recommended ? Did you have any side effects from the finasteride ?

everlast75 · 05-02-2019 10:47am

EltonJohn69 wrote: »

What was the shampoo that he recommended ? Did you have any side effects from the finasteride ?

Can't remember the shampoo! I picked up that German one - with caffeine in it?

Zero side effects from finasteride for over 3 years. But I've stopped using it in the last few months. What I had read on the internet convinced me to.

everlast75 · 05-02-2019 10:51am

I decided to check out up north to see if I could get a better deal than Ailesbury who quoted €4k for up to 3000 hairs in Zone A. Ailesbutry will also include a free density session in ten months time if more is needed.

So I contacted Vinci Hair Clinic. Their price was £3.5k for 1500 grafts.

Vinci concurred with the Ailesbury assessment which was that Zone B and C would not be suitable for transplant. The hair density doesn't permit it and to carry out an operation there may lead to shock and loss of hair.

The question I have to consider is whether it is worth my while fixing the front third whilst leaving the back 2 thirds lighter..

EltonJohn69 · 05-02-2019 10:54am

everlast75 wrote: »

Can't remember the shampoo! I picked up that German one - with caffeine in it?

Zero side effects from finasteride for over 3 years. But I've stopped using it in the last few months. What I had read on the internet convinced me to.

Yeah I know that one with the caffeine... found it dryed my hair out too much. Did the Finasteride work for you tomaintain/regrowth ? I have read about potential side effects... some scary stuff there definitely

everlast75 · 05-02-2019 11:18am

EltonJohn69 wrote: »

Yeah I know that one with the caffeine... found it dryed my hair out too much. Did the Finasteride work for you tomaintain/regrowth ? I have read about potential side effects... some scary stuff there definitely

I found it did thicken the hair. He had photos of when I used it and when I did not.

Yep - wasn't worth it on balance. You can get the pigmentation treatment. Costs about €1000. Gives the impression of higher density hair.

Passenger · 05-02-2019 12:07pm

EltonJohn69 wrote: »

Did you experience much of a shed when you initially used it ? Apparently that is how you know it is working

There was no shedding for me anyway.

Heiser · 05-02-2019 3:30pm

everlast75 wrote: »

I decided to check out up north to see if I could get a better deal than Ailesbury who quoted €4k for up to 3000 hairs in Zone A. Ailesbutry will also include a free density session in ten months time if more is needed.

So I contacted Vinci Hair Clinic. Their price was £3.5k for 1500 grafts.

Vinci concurred with the Ailesbury assessment which was that Zone B and C would not be suitable for transplant. The hair density doesn't permit it and to carry out an operation there may lead to shock and loss of hair.

The question I have to consider is whether it is worth my while fixing the front third whilst leaving the back 2 thirds lighter..

Shock loss hair grows back

EltonJohn69 · 06-02-2019 12:29pm

There is a podcast called “the bald truth” on iTunes if anybody wants some good information on hair transplants and Finasteride.

Patient11 · 06-02-2019 5:59pm

EltonJohn69 wrote: »

There is a podcast called “the bald truth” on iTunes if anybody wants some good information on hair transplants and Finasteride.

I would take anything they say with a large grain of salt.

They promote name brand Propecia which costs many times more than generic Finasteride.

That alone is a major red flag.

They have also denied that they are stuides that show that Finasteride causes long term damage.

I can only imagine the show must be sponsored by Merck.

The show is like one big advertisement for Propecia.

https://www.pfsfoundation.org/publications/

EltonJohn69 · 06-02-2019 8:07pm

Patient11 wrote: »

I would take anything they say with a large grain of salt.

They promote name brand Propecia which costs many times more than generic Finasteride.

That alone is a major red flag.

They have also denied that they are stuides that show that Finasteride causes long term damage.

I can only imagine the show must be sponsored by Merck.

The show is like one big advertisement for Propecia.

https://www.pfsfoundation.org/publications/

mmm.... I have found the podcast to be fairly balanced. They don't overly encourage transplants, they talk about the risks and the amount of bad surgeons out there. ... With Finasteride they say it is highly effective but that are potential side effects... and its a risk/reward situation.

They did say there is no clinical study that shows that there is long term side effects use from Finasteride......this seems to be a big point of contention in the industry. They have a lot of people call in to the show with mild side effects that apparently go away when they discontinue the drug.

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