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When did Gemma O Doherty go batshyt crazy?

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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 814 ✭✭✭debok


    What has all this to do with Gemma o Doherty


  • Registered Users Posts: 7,237 ✭✭✭mcmoustache


    Stephen15 wrote: »
    Whatever about vaccines now but I don't agree with fluoride either. Not because it's giving people cancer or whatever I feel it's unessecary. Most European countries don't put it in their water but yet they don't have problems with their teeth. What I don't agree with is that it's a chemical that doesn't to be there. I like to consume stuff that is natural and as free of chemicals and GMO as possible.


    Oh Christ.


    How is anything outside of abstract nouns free of chemicals?


    giphy.gif


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,091 ✭✭✭backspin.


    debok wrote: »
    What has all this to do with Gemma o Doherty

    Gemma doesn't believe that ole George is simply a wholesome billionaire trying to help the poor refugee reach a better life in the West.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,482 ✭✭✭Gimme A Pound


    backspin. wrote: »
    Gemma doesn't believe that ole George is simply a wholesome billionaire trying to help the poor refugee reach a better life in the West.
    Few do I'd say. Just the nonsense theories.

    You guys are doing the very same as those who dismiss any concerns about Soros - by dismissing questioning of the more absurd theories as Soros fan talk.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 35,492 ✭✭✭✭Hotblack Desiato


    one third why Ireland has declined

    Waters is deluded. He wants the country to go back to a very dark past with the church in control.

    Scrap the cap!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 35,492 ✭✭✭✭Hotblack Desiato


    Stephen15 wrote: »
    Whatever about vaccines now but I don't agree with fluoride either. Not because it's giving people cancer or whatever I feel it's unessecary. Most European countries don't put it in their water but yet they don't have problems with their teeth. What I don't agree with is that it's a chemical that doesn't to be there. I like to consume stuff that is natural and as free of chemicals and GMO as possible.

    Scrap the cap!



  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 408 ✭✭SoundsRight


    No. Mother Teresa was a completely evil bitch.

    Helping all those sick and needy people. How dare she.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 35,492 ✭✭✭✭Hotblack Desiato


    lbc2019 wrote: »
    He gives away money... she took all the money...

    She gathered vast amounts of funds (including stolen money from the likes of Savings and Loan embezzeler Charles Keating and brutal kleptomaniac dictator Baby Doc Duvalier, and lots of ordinary people who bought into her fake saintly PR image) and sent most of it to the Vatican Bank to sit there and do nothing, in spite of it being gathered to 'help the poor'.

    When requested by US authorities to return the money Keating stole from small savers and the elderly, she declined.

    What she did spend was only to build up her own empire, opening more and more 'clinics' but offering little or no medical help or in many cases not even pain relief beyond paracetamol to dying people. Her nuns tried to coerce dying, penniless Hindus and Muslims to convert to Catholicism on their deathbeds, and if they didn't consent her nuns uttered the right prayers anyway (now as an atheist I don't think those prayers could do anything, but it shows a deep disrespect on the nuns part for the beliefs and wishes of those dying people, and a willingness to exploit their poverty and lack of any other choices.)

    Her nuns also reused needles routinely on dying people, to the point where they were so blunt they wouldn't go in, only then were they replaced.

    When she travelled around the world, she took business class or first, or a private jet cadged from dodgy types like Robert Maxwell. When she was dying of cancer she went by private jet to the most expensive clinics America had to offer. No painful lingering death in a Delhi sh*hole for her, the people consigned there were just the collateral damage in her decades long ego trip.

    With all the many millions she gathered, she could have made a real difference to healthcare in India's slums but she refused to do so.

    There's a reason the teacher in my kid's class said "If you're looking up Mother Teresa on the internet, make sure you look up 'Mother Teresa for kids' " :rolleyes: and it's the "for kids" version of her that most Irish people still brainlessly buy into.

    She was a regular on the Late Late Show in the 80s and 90s, and both the audience and Byrne used to fawn over her in a most revolting fashion.

    Scrap the cap!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,357 ✭✭✭✭Birneybau


    I recall that she believed (or let on) that the poorest of the poor were closer to God and she played on that.

    "Christopher Hitchens described Mother Teresa's organisation as a cult that promoted suffering and did not help those in need. He said that Mother Teresa's own words on poverty proved that her intention was not to help people, quoting her words at a 1981 press conference in which she was asked: "Do you teach the poor to endure their lot?" She replied: "I think it is very beautiful for the poor to accept their lot, to share it with the passion of Christ. I think the world is being much helped by the suffering of the poor people."


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  • Registered Users Posts: 1,091 ✭✭✭backspin.


    Waters is deluded. He wants the country to go back to a very dark past with the church in control.

    He sees a troubled future with native Irish people in a minority. And why are such concerns absolutely taboo to raise? That should worry people. Maybe the future will be great but maybe it will be a massive mistake. Why can't it be openly discussed?

    Can you say hand on heart that somewhere like Rotherham or Bradford is a better more harmonious place today than it was 50 years ago. Who is asking for their towns and cities to change like that.

    Sadly we are paralyzed by a fear of being accused of racism, or upsetting someones feelings so we can't have an open discussion on what we want for our future. And it doesn't have to be no immigration or mass immigration. We can reach a middle ground. We are going to have to make some hard decisions soon anyway especially with the population explosion Africa will see in the 21st century with many of them wanting to come to Europe.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 408 ✭✭SoundsRight


    She helped the poorest of the poor, people that the rest of the world couldn't give a fig about. Criticise her all you want, but bear in mind there wasn't people queuing up to help before she arrived on the scene.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,357 ✭✭✭✭Larbre34


    She helped the poorest of the poor, people that the rest of the world couldn't give a fig about. Criticise her all you want, but bear in mind there wasn't people queuing up to help before she arrived on the scene.

    Mother Theresa? What?


  • Registered Users Posts: 3,522 ✭✭✭paleoperson


    Birneybau wrote: »
    I recall that she believed (or let on) that the poorest of the poor were closer to God and she played on that.

    "Christopher Hitchens described Mother Teresa's organisation as a cult that promoted suffering and did not help those in need. He said that Mother Teresa's own words on poverty proved that her intention was not to help people, quoting her words at a 1981 press conference in which she was asked: "Do you teach the poor to endure their lot?" She replied: "I think it is very beautiful for the poor to accept their lot, to share it with the passion of Christ. I think the world is being much helped by the suffering of the poor people."

    I have a hard time imagining how dumb someone would have to be to take that one quote, taken out of context, out of 90+ years of doing good so literally and to use it to suggest that this woman was actually some horrible, bloodthirsty psychopath.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,357 ✭✭✭✭Birneybau


    Birneybau wrote: »
    I recall that she believed (or let on) that the poorest of the poor were closer to God and she played on that.

    "Christopher Hitchens described Mother Teresa's organisation as a cult that promoted suffering and did not help those in need. He said that Mother Teresa's own words on poverty proved that her intention was not to help people, quoting her words at a 1981 press conference in which she was asked: "Do you teach the poor to endure their lot?" She replied: "I think it is very beautiful for the poor to accept their lot, to share it with the passion of Christ. I think the world is being much helped by the suffering of the poor people."

    I have a hard time imagining how dumb someone would have to be to take that one quote, taken out of context, out of 90+ years of doing good so literally and to use it to suggest that this woman was actually some horrible, bloodthirsty psychopath.

    Hmm...it's one quote. There was a massive post above mine that you so conveniently ignored.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 814 ✭✭✭debok


    She helped the poorest of the poor, people that the rest of the world couldn't give a fig about. Criticise her all you want, but bear in mind there wasn't people queuing up to help before she arrived on the scene.

    Jimmy Saville raised millions for the poorest of the poor, people that the rest of the world couldn't give a fig about. Criticise him all you want, but bear in mind there wasn't people queuing up to help before he arrived on the scene.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,291 ✭✭✭lbc2019


    Birneybau wrote: »
    I recall that she believed (or let on) that the poorest of the poor were closer to God and she played on that.

    "Christopher Hitchens described Mother Teresa's organisation as a cult that promoted suffering and did not help those in need. He said that Mother Teresa's own words on poverty proved that her intention was not to help people, quoting her words at a 1981 press conference in which she was asked: "Do you teach the poor to endure their lot?" She replied: "I think it is very beautiful for the poor to accept their lot, to share it with the passion of Christ. I think the world is being much helped by the suffering of the poor people."

    It’s brilliant- most religions use it. Stay poor to revive god- give all your money to... eh, me! Bling!!! Imagine the thread count on her tea towels!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,291 ✭✭✭lbc2019


    debok wrote: »
    She helped the poorest of the poor, people that the rest of the world couldn't give a fig about. Criticise her all you want, but bear in mind there wasn't people queuing up to help before she arrived on the scene.

    Jimmy Saville raised millions for the poorest of the poor, people that the rest of the world couldn't give a fig about. Criticise him all you want, but bear in mind there wasn't people queuing up to help before he arrived on the scene.

    All those sick kiddies, he really put something back


  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 6,309 Mod ✭✭✭✭mzungu


    I don't understand why people can't be against fluoride being added to drinking water on ethical grounds.

    The science is no way near complete enough that anyone can say with absolute certainty of whether it is a good or bad thing to do.
    Mainly because there is nothing behind it only myths and spook stories with no basis in reality.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,482 ✭✭✭Gimme A Pound


    God the naivety of those who can't see any flaws in Gemma.

    But anyway, I think tbh saying Mother Theresa was an evil bitch is no more helpful than saying she was a saint. A lot of nuance to be fair.


  • Registered Users Posts: 3,522 ✭✭✭paleoperson


    Birneybau wrote: »
    Hmm...it's one quote. There was a massive post above mine that you so conveniently ignored.

    Yes but that one quote is what we always hear when talking negatively about her. It's continually rolled out as a significant part of their "evidence". You'd think in 87 years they would find something worse than that, you'd expect something like: "I'm sick of all these poor, they just keep breeding" or "I'm relieved when some of them die" or saying doubts about her belief in god, something like that.

    One thing the internet has shown in its relatively short lifespan is that a lot of people love to hate and develop hater theories - celebrities, politicians, major figures - it's a big sport to some people. The bigger and cleaner they appear initially, the better. It's also very easy to develop "hate" theories about someone that can start to sound believable. Any evidence against what they think is handwaved away as being for some silly reason such as ego-stroking or "to make it look to other people as if they were doing good", while they'll jump on any theory showing the opposite. It's all a big game to some people.

    Mother Theresa was a particularly good target because she represents a pillar of the Catholic Church and they wanted to become known as the person who took her down. To take down the (literally to some extent) mother of all good-doers, the greatest "exposed" of all time. It was also cool among people to attack the church, some by people who had legitimate grievances and some who just took it up as a hobby.

    The idea that the little old lady who devoted her entire life to helping the poor, putting herself in all kinds of harmful situations, is actually some kind of selfish, evil, mastermind? Perhaps there were some things you can have an opinion that she should have done differently. You can be critical about Mother Theresa without acting like she was doing things that were stupid and callous based on a few sound bites you just read of someone else, the reality is a lot more blurred.


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  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 408 ✭✭SoundsRight


    Says a lot about the world we live in, and the power of propaganda, that some people will look down their nose at a person who devoted their life in the service of others.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,448 ✭✭✭Mrs Shuttleworth


    I had never heard of Gemma until a few weeks ago.

    Numbers listening and reading to alternative social media and news media are growing.

    The mainstream media bias and abuse of people with differing viewpoints, particularly since the Trump election, creates a vacuum in which O'Doherty and Waters can create the illusion of a glamorous underground resistance which is dangerously addictive and lures vulnerable people in.

    Comments such as "tin foil hat", "fruitcake" etc are counterproductive in that immediately you wonder what arguments are being made that are so outrageous and want to find out.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 814 ✭✭✭debok


    mzungu wrote: »
    Mainly because there is nothing behind it only myths and spook stories with no basis in reality.

    Is there any real long term benefit to adding it ?Americans laugh at our teeth anyway?!!Surely every country would add if it was doing somethin. Knowing Ireland there s probably few lads making a few quid off it so it can't be stopped


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,671 ✭✭✭dav3


    What is it with the likes of Gemma O'Doherty and her followers all being obsessed with conspiracy theories?

    They start off fairly normal, maybe a conspiracy about moon landings or area 51. Suddenly a switch goes off in their head and they're ranting about some of the most insane topics. They all end up in the same place, sharing the same videos, using the same language, using words that are not even in an Irish persons vernacular.

    It's a network that spreads beyond Ireland. A network of nutters. They have fully convinced themselves that they're not the crazy ones, it's everyone else that's crazy, or brainwashed. You've already seen it in this thread, people posting youtube videos of well known nutters. Here is a tweet by Gemma only 24 hours ago.

    https://twitter.com/gemmaod1/status/1088735225746780161

    Is this really someone who's fully there? "The Fourth Reich using Finance instead of Bombs to destroy the European and British way of life!"

    Is that something you would ever hear an Irish person saying?

    Watching Irish people becoming radicalised by foreign influences is certainly entertaining. It's clear that a certain type of person is more susceptible to this type of propaganda. Nobody appears too bothered about it though. Carry on nutters, carry on.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 38 sophiexyz


    dav3 wrote: »
    What is it with the likes of Gemma O'Doherty and her followers all being obsessed with conspiracy theories?

    In the last few years many conspiracy theories have become conspiracy facts, which one will turn out to be true next? We won't know if we wont ask questions and just accept the official story


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 814 ✭✭✭debok


    dav3 wrote: »
    What is it with the likes of Gemma O'Doherty and her followers all being obsessed with conspiracy theories?

    They start off fairly normal, maybe a conspiracy about moon landings or area 51. Suddenly a switch goes off in their head and they're ranting about some of the most insane topics. They all end up in the same place, sharing the same videos, using the same language, using words that are not even in an Irish persons vernacular.

    It's a network that spreads beyond Ireland. A network of nutters. They have fully convinced themselves that they're not the crazy ones, it's everyone else that's crazy, or brainwashed. You've already seen it in this thread, people posting youtube videos of well known nutters. Here is a tweet by Gemma only 24 hours ago.

    https://twitter.com/gemmaod1/status/1088735225746780161

    Is this really someone who's fully there? "The Fourth Reich using Finance instead of Bombs to destroy the European and British way of life!"

    Is that something you would ever hear an Irish person saying?

    Watching Irish people becoming radicalised by foreign influences is certainly entertaining. It's clear that a certain type of person is more susceptible to this type of propaganda. Nobody appears too bothered about it though. Carry on nutters, carry on.

    Yeh we should keep to our own never mind that foreign influence. What have we ever done to harm ourselves. No cover ups or conspiracys ever happened here!!!!!!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,448 ✭✭✭Mrs Shuttleworth


    dav3 wrote: »
    What is it with the likes of Gemma O'Doherty and her followers all being obsessed with conspiracy theories?

    They start off fairly normal, maybe a conspiracy about moon landings or area 51. Suddenly a switch goes off in their head and they're ranting about some of the most insane topics. They all end up in the same place, sharing the same videos, using the same language, using words that are not even in an Irish persons vernacular.

    It's a network that spreads beyond Ireland. A network of nutters. They have fully convinced themselves that they're not the crazy ones, it's everyone else that's crazy, or brainwashed. You've already seen it in this thread, people posting youtube videos of well known nutters. Here is a tweet by Gemma only 24 hours ago.

    https://twitter.com/gemmaod1/status/1088735225746780161

    Is this really someone who's fully there? "The Fourth Reich using Finance instead of Bombs to destroy the European and British way of life!"

    Is that something you would ever hear an Irish person saying?

    Watching Irish people becoming radicalised by foreign influences is certainly entertaining. It's clear that a certain type of person is more susceptible to this type of propaganda. Nobody appears too bothered about it though. Carry on nutters, carry on.

    You're playing into their hands with posts like this.

    By using the term "nutters" etc and banging on at length about them, and simultaneously reposting their "opinions" while calling them crazy, over time you look like the crazy and paranoid one with something to hide and they can play the victim.

    Better off ignoring them completely.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,452 ✭✭✭✭AndrewJRenko


    sophiexyz wrote: »
    In the last few years many conspiracy theories have become conspiracy facts, which one will turn out to be true next? We won't know if we wont ask questions and just accept the official story

    Which conspiracy theories have become facts?


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 38 sophiexyz


    Take a minute to look at things from her perspective, it appears the EU want the same for Ireland as Sweden regards immigration, and we all know thats not working out very well, its a disaster, so she has some good points but she is not putting them out in a polished manner.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,291 ✭✭✭lbc2019


    sophiexyz wrote: »
    Take a minute to look at things from her perspective, it appears the EU want the same for Ireland as Sweden regards immigration, and we all know thats not working out very well, its a disaster, so she has some good points but she is not putting them out in a polished manner.

    Have you been to Sweden?


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  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 38 sophiexyz


    Which conspiracy theories have become facts?
    Many more, but here is a good one, make you think about the news.

    People have long accused the media of being a proxy branch of the State Department, a highly sophisticated and well-produced form of manufactured consensus and controlled opposition all rolled into one. In ostensibly democratic nations, a free and independent press is of paramount importance. But in the U.S., we find a cohesion of the state and corporate news networks that do not constitute ‘state-run media’ in the traditional sense — but it’s close.

    Our first solid documentation that the media is an echo chamber for the government came with the disclosure of what has come to be called Operation Mockingbird. This nefarious and far-reaching conspiracy was documented in Part 1 and involved the CIA essentially conscripting journalists, American news agencies, and major broadcasters to become domestic propagandists and spies. Eventually, this CIA/media symbiosis included journalists from all the top news organizations. Literally, thousands of people were involved.

    Wikileaks exposed a number of disturbing revelations showing collusion between the media and political operatives

    carlbernstein.com/magazine_cia_and_media.php


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 38 sophiexyz


    lbc2019 wrote: »
    Have you been to Sweden?

    Brother lives there, i go once maybe twice a year to see him and nieces, its changed , even i could see that on my visits, he say its much worse that reported, his Swedish wife, friends are in a state of shock/denial about what has happened , but you can see there attitudes are changing, going to the right and picking up speed in that direction.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,452 ✭✭✭✭AndrewJRenko


    sophiexyz wrote: »
    Many more, but here is a good one, make you think about the news.

    Any Irish ones?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,190 ✭✭✭✭Pherekydes


    dav3 wrote: »
    Is this really someone who's fully there? "The Fourth Reich using Finance instead of Bombs to destroy the European and British way of life!"

    Is that something you would ever hear an Irish person saying?

    That's like something the EDL would promote.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 38 sophiexyz


    Any Irish ones?
    Do you not believe the media over here is controlled?
    IMF in Dublin all over Sky,BBC News, RTE not a peep!
    Stories about the church for years, we now know many where true.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,291 ✭✭✭lbc2019


    sophiexyz wrote: »
    lbc2019 wrote: »
    Have you been to Sweden?

    Brother lives there, i go once maybe twice a year to see him and nieces, its changed , even i could see that on my visits, he say its much worse that reported, his Swedish wife, friends are in a state of shock/denial about what has happened , but you can see there attitudes are changing, going to the right and picking up speed in that direction.

    So your brother is an immigrant- does he get much hostility?


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 38 sophiexyz


    lbc2019 wrote: »
    So your brother is an immigrant- does he get much hostility?

    None what so ever, i'd assume thats because he come from the same christian background as Swedish natives, same morals, ethics, interests, he just had to learn the language and he was one of them, Swedish wife and children.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 81,220 ✭✭✭✭biko


    Thanks for bringing this person to my attention OP

    Just watched this documentary.




  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 38 sophiexyz


    biko wrote: »
    Thanks for bringing this person to my attention OP

    Just watched this documentary.



    She is not in the wrong regarding this case, no wonder the powers that be ridicule her, she is exposing their lies


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 35,492 ✭✭✭✭Hotblack Desiato


    She helped the poorest of the poor

    No she didn't

    Scrap the cap!



  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,291 ✭✭✭lbc2019


    sophiexyz wrote: »
    None what so ever, i'd assume thats because he come from the same christian background as Swedish natives, same morals, ethics, interests, he just had to learn the language and he was one of them, Swedish wife and children.

    Swedes were Scandinavian I thought? Christianity an introduced religion- when I was there it was very secular. Still is there no animosity him taking Swedish jobs?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,291 ✭✭✭lbc2019


    sophiexyz wrote: »
    She is not in the wrong regarding this case, no wonder the powers that be ridicule her, she is exposing their lies

    The childs relations not happy- Same with Fr Molloy.

    She is a bandwagon jumper


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,423 ✭✭✭batgoat


    backspin. wrote: »
    You are right Soros is indeed anti-Semitic. He helped confiscate property from Jews during WW2 and described those days as the best in his life.

    He was hiding in a Christian family at age 14, this is from an interview he did. If anything, he went through something incredibly traumatic.

    Kroft: “My understanding is that you went … went out, in fact, and helped in the confiscation of property from the Jews.”

    Soros: “Yes, that’s right. Yes.”

    Kroft: “I mean, that’s — that sounds like an experience that would send lots of people to the psychiatric couch for many, many years. Was it difficult?”

    Soros: “Not, not at all. Not at all. Maybe as a child you don’t … you don’t see the connection. But it was — it created no — no problem at all.”

    Kroft: “No feeling of guilt?”

    Soros: “No.”

    Kroft: “For example, that, ‘I’m Jewish, and here I am, watching these people go. I could just as easily be these, I should be there.’ None of that?”

    Soros: “Well, of course, … I could be on the other side or I could be the one from whom the thing is being taken away. But there was no sense that I shouldn’t be there, because that was — well, actually, in a funny way, it’s just like in the markets — that if I weren’t there — of course, I wasn’t doing it, but somebody else would — would — would be taking it away anyhow. And it was the — whether I was there or not, I was only a spectator, the property was being taken away. So the — I had no role in taking away that property. So I had no sense of guilt.“

    In addition to this, Soros warned Jewish families of impending capture. Pretty shameful to lie about his background.
    https://www.independent.co.uk/voices/george-soros-nazi-jew-conspiracy-theory-roseanne-barr-twitter-rant-a8377301.html
    Stephen15 wrote: »
    So I take it George Soros is great according to you. He's hardly feckin Mother Thresa now is he?

    Yep pretty great, Mother Theresa tends to be a lot more problematic.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,108 ✭✭✭boombang


    I couldn't make sense of her. I believe some of her work on anti corruption. Then I saw her on something I know a bit about (the CervicalCheck controversy) and she was pure Batshyt Crazy. This then made me question the Boyle and Molloy stuff.

    I'd honestly not be surprised if she turns out to be I'll.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 814 ✭✭✭debok


    lbc2019 wrote: »
    The childs relations not happy- Same with Fr Molloy.

    She is a bandwagon jumper

    In fairness the child's relations wouldn't be happy when they were probably involved in it and the doc supports that theory. Some of the family are happy with it who weren't involved in it


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 35,492 ✭✭✭✭Hotblack Desiato


    I don't understand why people can't be against fluoride being added to drinking water on ethical grounds.

    The science is no way near complete enough that anyone can say with absolute certainty of whether it is a good or bad thing to do.

    Northern Ireland doesn't add fluoride, so it's pretty easy to make comparisons.

    https://www.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/news/health/children-pay-price-for-flouridefree-water-28479838.html
    In the Republic there is a decay rate of one tooth per child compared to over two in Northern Ireland, one of the worst in Europe.

    Scrap the cap!



  • Closed Accounts Posts: 814 ✭✭✭debok


    Which conspiracy theories have become facts?

    What can be called a conspiracy theory? Like for years where I lived there was rumours of a paedophile in the area. But the gardai said it was just rumors and people making up stories. Some said at the time the gardai covered it up because of who he was and anyone that went against this was called mad or crackpot. The paedophile is in jail now but 25 years too late.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 38 sophiexyz


    debok wrote: »
    In fairness the child's relations wouldn't be happy when they were probably involved in it and the doc supports that theory. Some of the family are happy with it who weren't involved in it

    Have you seen Surviving R.KELLY?
    Man raped 14 year old, possibly younger, on video tape, family denied it happened, did money change hands?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,423 ✭✭✭batgoat


    debok wrote: »
    What can be called a conspiracy theory? Like for years where I lived there was rumours of a paedophile in the area. But the gardai said it was just rumors and people making up stories. Some said at the time the gardai covered it up because of who he was and anyone that went against this was called mad or crackpot. The paedophile is in jail now but 25 years too late.
    A person basically reusing nazi era anti semetic conspiracies is not comparable. In relation to her crime solving, she's behaved abysmally towards both families of those victims. This is verifiable.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 814 ✭✭✭debok


    batgoat wrote: »
    A person basically reusing nazi era anti semetic conspiracies is not comparable. In relation to her crime solving, she's behaved abysmally towards both families of those victims. This is verifiable.

    You replying to me?

    Anyway if I murdered my niece and got away with it for years I wouldn't be happy with a reporter asking me about it.i would probably feign outrage and go to Garda who helped cover it up and then I'd call the reporter batshyte crazy


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