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There is a generation that has not grown up with .......

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,808 ✭✭✭The J Stands for Jay


    Modifying config.sys to get your game to run.

    I hear rumours that MS want to get rid of Control Panel even. Can't have pesky users changing settings.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,808 ✭✭✭The J Stands for Jay


    riclad wrote: »
    This generation is the first to expect all media on demand eg all TV programs will be on streaming services every TV station can be viewed live online

    The next generation won't expect that because there'll be 47 different streaming platforms, all with different exclusive content.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,531 ✭✭✭✭ohnonotgmail


    riclad wrote: »
    Dísc drives are not absolete, you can use em to watch 4k movies, not everyone has fast Internet to download games that are 250gig plus. Millions of users in America have no acess to fast broadband.
    I like to buy games play them once then trade
    them in
    And also buy preowned games for 20 euro
    A digital download is of no value once you have played
    People complain about doxxing
    Every house used to get a phone directory which listed
    every person by name who rented a phone or had a phone line
    Most consoles being sold still have a disk drive
    USB drives are still useful for booting up Linux or just
    Saving files as a backup
    This generation is the first to expect all media on demand eg all TV programs will be on streaming services every TV station can be viewed live online

    The current generation is going to get a shock when they realise that they do not own the content they are paying for. Even when they pay to "own" a downloaded movie they don't actually own anything.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,812 ✭✭✭✭sbsquarepants


    Having to wire a 13 amp plug on every new electrical appliance you bought and having to decide which appliance you use the least to "borrow" a plug from.


    My ma used to plug out the radio, then poke the wires of the iron into the socket and plug the radio back in to iron. This went on literally for years!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,811 ✭✭✭joe40


    How to use a turning handle to start a car, or get water from a well.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,359 ✭✭✭Padre_Pio


    The current generation is going to get a shock when they realise that they do not own the content they are paying for. Even when they pay to "own" a downloaded movie they don't actually own anything.

    I don't think people mind.
    I definitely don't miss the stacks of DVDs that I'll never watch again.
    joe40 wrote: »
    How to use a turning handle to start a car, or get water from a well.

    The previous two generations haven't grown up with that either.

    This generation will never know a pre internet, pre social media world.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,526 ✭✭✭✭whisky_galore


    Doing dumb fcuking things that never ended up online, for all to see, for all time.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 809 ✭✭✭filbert the fox


    My ma used to plug out the radio, then poke the wires of the iron into the socket and plug the radio back in to iron. This went on literally for years!

    I remember seeing electric irons plugged into the light socket.
    wall sockets were rare and for years consumers referred to the bill as the "Light Bill"


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,234 ✭✭✭bullpost


    Banging side of tele (When they had a side) fixed 99% of problems with it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 634 ✭✭✭TheAsYLuMkeY


    McGaggs wrote: »
    I hear rumours that MS want to get rid of Control Panel even. Can't have pesky users changing settings.

    I have a horde of old Motherboards, processors, RAM, PSU's, Disc Drives and cables, one thing that the advancement in internet has which works against MS is a pirated copy of windows XP, Vista, 7 or 8 is very easily obtainable and retains all those features. (Piracy not condoned)
    My ma used to plug out the radio, then poke the wires of the iron into the socket and plug the radio back in to iron. This went on literally for years!

    When i think back about it now, using something in the earth slot to push down the pin and open the gates to the live and grounds slots so you could put the two bare cables of the piece of equipment to be used into it then releasing the earth pin which would then clamp the cables in position was absolute madness.


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  • Posts: 3,689 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Changing jumpers on a motherboard or hard drive


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,259 ✭✭✭Ubbquittious


    The current generation is going to get a shock when they realise that they do not own the content they are paying for. Even when they pay to "own" a downloaded movie they don't actually own anything.

    Fuuk DRM. Better to stick to the auld pirate bay

    New generation is much more used to paying for bytes and pixels than the one before it. The RIAA and that other sueing crowd must be rubbing their hands


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,835 ✭✭✭dennyire


    I posted this in the 70's thread a good while back, but timely enough here too, do you remember the frustrations having to make a long distance call with this yoke.

    MDJmNDYxOWE1ZmVmMjVjMjU1NTllNjIwNWZkNWM5NDMkNp3bPKGRLPgp5LsEvT2gaHR0cDovL21lZGlhLmFkc2ltZy5jb20vY2M2ZWIwOWJmOTUyMzE0ODdjNzliODgxMzE2NzAwZDgwMjMyMzZhOWJhYWMxZGIwYmIyMjMyMGYyMTFjM2FmNC5qcGd8fHx8fHwyMjZ4NTI1fGh0dHA6Ly93d3cuYWR2ZXJ0cy5pZS9zdGF0aWMvaS93YXRlcm1hcmsucG5nfHx8.jpg

    I remember we used to spend saturdays stuffing toilet paper up the return chute so when people pressed button B their money would be blocked.
    We would go around all the phone boxes on way out on saturday evening, take out the toiiet paper, collect our coins and Saturday night paid for.
    Did it during the week too.


  • Posts: 3,689 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Using a physical desktop PC toolkit. Too much trouble for the poor millennial mindset.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 809 ✭✭✭filbert the fox


    Stacking a Hi-Fi with tape deck, radio, amp and turntable.

    Spaghetti wiring to contend with but hey they looked great.

    http://www.tvfilmprops.co.uk/det/1702/Akai-Silver-Stack-System-Hi-Fi/


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,738 ✭✭✭Floppybits


    I posted this in the 70's thread a good while back, but timely enough here too, do you remember the frustrations having to make a long distance call with this yoke.

    MDJmNDYxOWE1ZmVmMjVjMjU1NTllNjIwNWZkNWM5NDMkNp3bPKGRLPgp5LsEvT2gaHR0cDovL21lZGlhLmFkc2ltZy5jb20vY2M2ZWIwOWJmOTUyMzE0ODdjNzliODgxMzE2NzAwZDgwMjMyMzZhOWJhYWMxZGIwYmIyMjMyMGYyMTFjM2FmNC5qcGd8fHx8fHwyMjZ4NTI1fGh0dHA6Ly93d3cuYWR2ZXJ0cy5pZS9zdGF0aWMvaS93YXRlcm1hcmsucG5nfHx8.jpg

    Never knew what the A and B button did. Remember dialling long numbers on the rotary phone and some one would say something to you in the middle of it and you would forget where you were and have to start again.🤣


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,111 ✭✭✭The Continental Op


    Stacking a Hi-Fi with tape deck, radio, amp and turntable.

    Spaghetti wiring to contend with but hey they looked great.

    http://www.tvfilmprops.co.uk/det/1702/Akai-Silver-Stack-System-Hi-Fi/

    I'll see your Stacking Hi-Fi system and raise you a Radiogram

    1280px-X5683_-_Radiogrammofon_Granada_III_-_Gylling_%26_Co_-_foto_Dan_Johansson.jpg

    Wake me up when it's all over.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,738 ✭✭✭Floppybits


    iamstop wrote: »
    Was thinking about how I used to carry a big honking Walkman with me every time I was getting a bus to town. Usually a few extra tapes to swap out and sometimes even spare batteries. The ratio volume of what I needed to the minutes of music it could hold is vastly different to nowadays. I just put a 512GB memory card in to my phone.
    Say on average it's 100MB for an album. Can easily fit over 5000 albums on the card and still have room left for the artwork and photos or whatever. The phone is maybe half the volume of a Walkman. Most tapes were 60 or 90 minutes. I'd usually record an album on to tape and then fill the rest of the blank space at the end of each side with random tracks of a similar ilk.

    Remember upgrading to a disc man from the walkman. Jaysus the disc man ate the batteries, the strap to go over your shoulder so you bring it with you and any sort of bump and the cd would skip.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,807 ✭✭✭ablelocks


    Stacking a Hi-Fi with tape deck, radio, amp and turntable.

    Spaghetti wiring to contend with but hey they looked great.

    http://www.tvfilmprops.co.uk/det/1702/Akai-Silver-Stack-System-Hi-Fi/

    jaysus i had forgotten about that - myself and my brother rigged up old car speakers, brought wires thru the attic to the kitchen so we'd have multi-room capability.

    I rue the day i didn't take the fine sony system from my mother when she was getting rid of it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,486 ✭✭✭✭AndrewJRenko


    I'll see your Stacking Hi-Fi system and raise you a Radiogram

    1280px-X5683_-_Radiogrammofon_Granada_III_-_Gylling_%26_Co_-_foto_Dan_Johansson.jpg

    With stations like "Athlone' listed on the dial.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,111 ✭✭✭The Continental Op


    There she is

    533304.jpg

    Wake me up when it's all over.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,028 ✭✭✭H3llR4iser


    Padre_Pio wrote: »
    I don't think people mind.
    I definitely don't miss the stacks of DVDs that I'll never watch again.

    I think you're correct that most don't mind; It will result in a lot of "lost media" in the future, as things get pulled from streaming services.

    However, one thing that is never pointed out - kids are growing up without passive exposure to the past outside of school - not to mention to things they're not necessarily interested about.

    It's very simple: back when I was a kid in the '80s, if our parents wanted to watch that movie from the '50s which was on TV tonight, our choices were simple: watch it with them, or go to bed. Most of the times, we'd chose to watch, if not only to avoid being sent to bed at like 8pm. That would expose us to "how things were before we were around". I remember asking a lot of question - and sometimes having my leg pulled spectacularly by my parents about them (e.g. having me think the world used to be black and white :D ).

    You'd see old "operator" telephones, huge, room filling tape-reel (or perforated cards!) operated computers, cars that looked more like an horseless carriage than a Ford Fiesta, a world without airplanes and so on. Not all the time, but you'd have exposure. It wasn't really about knowing "how to fix a valve radio" or how to "drive a Model T", but just about knowing this stuff used to exist and was different from what we use today.

    Today, by virtue of "content on demand", people can completely skip over it all. The parents are watching a movie from the 1970s? Their kids will watch PewDiePie on the iPad and so on. They'll see stuff from the past - in school, on history books, usually presented in the most boring, "bite-size" way possible.

    I've actually experienced this myself a while ago - I'd basically only watch stuff I would look for, only look for news about things and fields I'd be interested about, only listen to music I already knew and liked. Suddenly, I realized I wasn't really up-to-date with anything, from world events to songs.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 809 ✭✭✭filbert the fox




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 809 ✭✭✭filbert the fox


    There she is

    533304.jpg

    All of those exotic places and Athlone in the mix.

    Up Westmeath or should that read Roscommon....


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,978 ✭✭✭kravmaga


    Vita nova wrote: »
    Visiting or phoning a travel agent to book a holiday or flight.

    And to add, the travellers cheques, I think I used to get mine from Thomas Cook on College Green , better rate than the banks at the time, 1987 ish, 1st foreign holiday away to Spain with 10 lads, one broke an arm when drunk on the 1st night, one nearly arrested by the local civil police. Playa Del Ingles, 747 Jumbo jet and pax allowed to smoke .lol


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,409 ✭✭✭✭Sardonicat


    I'll see your Stacking Hi-Fi system and raise you a Radiogram

    1280px-X5683_-_Radiogrammofon_Granada_III_-_Gylling_%26_Co_-_foto_Dan_Johansson.jpg

    Still one of those in the loft here


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,892 ✭✭✭CelticRambler


    H3llR4iser wrote: »
    However, one thing that is never pointed out - kids are growing up without passive exposure to the past outside of school - not to mention to things they're not necessarily interested about.

    It's very simple: back when I was a kid in the '80s, if our parents wanted to watch that movie from the '50s which was on TV tonight, our choices were simple: watch it with them, or go to bed. Most of the times, we'd chose to watch, if not only to avoid being sent to bed at like 8pm. That would expose us to "how things were before we were around".

    Only this afternoon, I was thinking along the same lines, and in particular how I learnt an awful lot of "elementary life skills" stuff from my parents, not because they were deliberately teaching it to me, but because it'd come up in conversation as we were doing or watching things together. These'd be all kinds of handcrafts and agricultural practices and basic mechanical principles, and a lot of the time not activities or traditions that my parents were themselves involved in, but that were still quite current during their youth and they'd learnt about them through casual contact in the same way I would a generation later.

    And that got me thinking that there must be a whole cohort of young-ish parents - mainly urbanites - who have neither the skills nor the knowledge to pass on to their children simply because even for them the "old ways" are actually quite modern.

    There's a great load of stuff you can learn on YouTube, but only if you go looking for it (or stumble into one of YouTube's weird recommendation wormholes). As you say, it's not so much whether or not the information is available, but whether young(er) people today even know that they're not getting "the full picture".


  • Posts: 3,689 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Knowing what a Z80 chip is, and the sanctified eminance it has.


  • Posts: 3,689 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    There's a great load of stuff you can learn on YouTube, but only if you go looking for it (or stumble into one of YouTube's weird recommendation wormholes). As you say, it's not so much whether or not the information is available, but whether young(er) people today even know that they're not getting "the full picture".
    Prior to 2017, YouTube encouraged and promoted production of this kind of educational video. Now, Youtube wants to find out has your channel snagged any community guideline - has anyone reported you with a "strike"


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,392 ✭✭✭Patrick2010


    Stacking a Hi-Fi with tape deck, radio, amp and turntable.

    Spaghetti wiring to contend with but hey they looked great.

    http://www.tvfilmprops.co.uk/det/1702/Akai-Silver-Stack-System-Hi-Fi/


    Still got a similar setup I bought 40 years ago, silver Pioneer tuner and amp, silver Akai tape deck and Sansui turntable along with a black CD player. All still going strong :)


  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    Jim2007 wrote: »
    I’m sure current and future generations will get on just fine without all the crap of previous generations. After all there are a lot of 50+ year olds that don’t know how to solder a hole in a bucket with a fire iron, or an electric one for that matter... replace a valve in a radio or fix a tv... all skill that were thought to be useful when I were a boy.

    How feckin old are you??? Did they teach you how to shoe a horse as well?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,359 ✭✭✭Padre_Pio


    Typing ringtones into a Nokia phone.
    My cousin was great at it, fingers flying all over the keypad.
    I remember I got the ringtone for Smooth Criminal, but I never heard the actual song and I had the tempo set way too low.

    Then polyphonic ringtones came out, gamechanger.
    Then, one of the lads had a phone with a voice recorder and a light. Amazing technology back then. A phone with a light! Handy.

    I think it was 2005 when I my first "good" phone, a Sony Ericsson V800, which had an amazing 1.3 megapixel camera, that spun around so you could do video calls, not that I could afford a video call.


  • Moderators, Music Moderators Posts: 12,549 Mod ✭✭✭✭iamstop


    Floppybits wrote: »
    Remember upgrading to a disc man from the walkman. Jaysus the disc man ate the batteries, the strap to go over your shoulder so you bring it with you and any sort of bump and the cd would skip.

    I skipped the discman and went straight to minidisc player/recorder. It was pretty nifty for about 2 years until it got usurped by the ipods.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,808 ✭✭✭The J Stands for Jay


    iamstop wrote: »
    I skipped the discman and went straight to minidisc player/recorder. It was pretty nifty for about 2 years until it got usurped by the ipods.

    It's amazing how well the iPod did, despite being one of the more awkward MP3 players available at the time


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,326 ✭✭✭CoBo55


    With stations like "Athlone' listed on the dial.

    And Hilversum, nothing was ever broadcast on Hilversum...
    De diddle de de diddle diddle, Morse on shortwave.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,874 ✭✭✭Edgware


    Floppybits wrote: »
    Never knew what the A and B button did. Remember dialling long numbers on the rotary phone and some one would say something to you in the middle of it and you would forget where you were and have to start again.🤣

    I don't know how many times we pushed button B
    as kids and a coins came out.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,531 ✭✭✭✭ohnonotgmail


    Floppybits wrote: »
    Never knew what the A and B button did. Remember dialling long numbers on the rotary phone and some one would say something to you in the middle of it and you would forget where you were and have to start again.🤣

    you put the coins in, dialled the number and waited for the other party to answer. you then pressed button A. if there was no response you pressed button B and got your money back. I am old enough to have used them but even by that stage they were an anachronism. There was one in an old pub across the road from where my dad worked.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,589 ✭✭✭✭cj maxx


    you put the coins in, dialled the number and waited for the other party to answer. you then pressed button A. if there was no response you pressed button B and got your money back. I am old enough to have used them but even by that stage they were an anachronism. There was one in an old pub across the road from where my dad worked.

    Does anyone remember ‘tapping’ pay phones . It’s where you literally tapped the thing where you hang up for the number ie. 7 taps for a 7 etc . It did work from time to time


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,738 ✭✭✭Floppybits


    McGaggs wrote: »
    It's amazing how well the iPod did, despite being one of the more awkward MP3 players available at the time

    All about the marketing that was, I cant remember any advertising for the other mp3 players on the market at the time. I know there was an mp3 player from Creative Labs. At the same time remember Nokia being huge for the mobile phones and then the Iphone came out and no more Nokia.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,111 ✭✭✭The Continental Op


    The stove with the kettle always on the boil.

    If it wasn't it could take at least 10 minutes to get a quick cup of tea.

    Wake me up when it's all over.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,780 ✭✭✭Aglomerado


    Floppybits wrote: »


    All about the marketing that was, I cant remember any advertising for the other mp3 players on the market at the time. I know there was an mp3 player from Creative Labs. At the same time remember Nokia being huge for the mobile phones and then the Iphone came out and no more Nokia.

    The Creative Zen was one of the best Mp3 players. I had a 6gb one, lasted for years. Never had one as good since. The case on it eventually got cracked after one too many drops. It was fairly big too and hard to lose, unlike the unbranded Chinese one I bought off Ebay that I can't find now. I'm using Spotify on my phone now instead.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,807 ✭✭✭ablelocks


    Sardonicat wrote: »
    Still one of those in the loft here

    would you not think of refurbishing it and build in current tech?


  • Registered Users Posts: 748 ✭✭✭Vita nova


    I was recently in a hardware store looking for a shower unit and was thinking of this thread. In the 'bad old days', showers were rare and baths were more common, if you wanted a shower you could buy this all plastic attachment which looked a bit like a doctor's stethoscope, i.e. a Y-connector and 2 tubes off it that plugged unto the hot and cold bath taps (mixers were rare) and a shower head connected to the common tube.

    They were never great, you had to hold the head all the time and if you tugged hard on them you could easily pull the plugs off the taps, even high water pressure would push the plug off. You can still get them but usually only in Mr. Price or Dealz type stores.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 634 ✭✭✭TheAsYLuMkeY


    Padre_Pio wrote: »

    I think it was 2005 when I my first "good" phone, a Sony Ericsson V800, which had an amazing 1.3 megapixel camera, that spun around so you could do video calls, not that I could afford a video call.

    This was the first Nokia phone with a camera built in and also internet enabled, I bought this on release.

    This was a really cool phone then, and still would be now, the handset used to slide up behind the screen and make it a really compact phone with just screen on view.

    Don’t know where it ever went on me.


    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nokia_7650#:~:text=It%20was%20introduced%20in%20Barcelona,imaging%20capabilities%20was%20widely%20marketed.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,531 ✭✭✭✭ohnonotgmail


    This was the first Nokia phone with a camera built in and also internet enabled, I bought this on release.

    This was a really cool phone then, and still would be now, the handset used to slide up behind the screen and make it a really compact phone with just screen on view.

    Don’t know where it ever went on me.


    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nokia_7650#:~:text=It%20was%20introduced%20in%20Barcelona,imaging%20capabilities%20was%20widely%20marketed.

    this was the phone to have back in the day. Flicking it open answered a call and closing it ended the call. totally cool. I left mine in the back of a taxi when i was absolutely flutered. I dont think I ever got over that

    OIP.9WZDxu48kHxctDncSgpUqQHaFj?pid=Api&rs=1


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,326 ✭✭✭CoBo55


    Wap... The mobile phone version of dial up, absolutely dreadful.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,359 ✭✭✭Padre_Pio


    this was the phone to have back in the day. Flicking it open answered a call and closing it ended the call. totally cool. I left mine in the back of a taxi when i was absolutely flutered. I dont think I ever got over that

    Is that from the Matrix?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,531 ✭✭✭✭ohnonotgmail


    Padre_Pio wrote: »
    Is that from the Matrix?

    well now, it is and it isn't. He does use a phone like that in The Matrix BUT the one in the movie flicks open. the real one had to be opened manually. The 7710 looked a bit like it and that did flick open and it is usually called the Matrix phone but is not the one used in the movie.

    OIP._Lwg943tzkIV98VCm5h7SwHaEO?pid=Api&rs=1



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,874 ✭✭✭Edgware


    "a Quinn Martin production"


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,531 ✭✭✭✭ohnonotgmail


    Edgware wrote: »
    "a Quinn Martin production"

    like this?



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