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drdeadlift · 21-01-2012 10:57am

Looking for peoples reviews on usp labs oxyelitepro.

mufcboy1999 · 21-01-2012 12:06pm

drdeadlift wrote: »

Looking for peoples reviews on usp labs oxyelitepro.

Useless like all fat burners IMO, get some caffeine pills instead or a pre workout before training and clean up your diet.

These fat burners are placebo at its best with all this termogenic bullsh*t, if your looking to cut up or just lose weight it's the training that's most important with a good diet.

drdeadlift · 21-01-2012 2:12pm

mufcboy1999 wrote: »

Useless like all fat burners IMO, get some caffeine pills instead or a pre workout before training and clean up your diet.

These fat burners are placebo at its best with all this termogenic bullsh*t, if your looking to cut up or just lose weight it's the training that's most important with a good diet.

I don't take pre training or fat burners stimulants give me panic attacks.Im happy with where i am now body wise.I wanted to hear what experience people have with this specific supplement.Alot of customers report much more frequent jaunts to the jacks much larger amounts of energy and most loose significant weight within the first week.
Again i know cals in and out count aswell as many other factors but so many folk swear by it.. rant over

The Guvnor · 21-01-2012 2:34pm

I like heat - thermogenesis for aiding results.

I never really saw benefits from diet pills or whatever we want to call them.

However I saw some people albeit considerably overweight who perhaps took more of the same diet pill I was taking and lost a load of weight - no exercise done just some better eating perhaps but I was still impressed.

Bottom line they can help - something like a hot chilli could be advantageous - maybe start adding some spices if tolerable to one or two meals and progress from there.

Only danger with hot spices if you feel the heat going in and going out!:)

Just to add I primarily used the diet pills as a pep pill before training.

mufcboy1999 · 21-01-2012 2:36pm

drdeadlift wrote: »

mufcboy1999 wrote: »

Useless like all fat burners IMO, get some caffeine pills instead or a pre workout before training and clean up your diet.

These fat burners are placebo at its best with all this termogenic bullsh*t, if your looking to cut up or just lose weight it's the training that's most important with a good diet.

I don't take pre training or fat burners stimulants give me panic attacks.Im happy with where i am now body wise.I wanted to hear what experience people have with this specific supplement.Alot of customers report much more frequent jaunts to the jacks much larger amounts of energy and most loose significant weight within the first week.
Again i know cals in and out count aswell as many other factors but so many folk swear by it.. rant over

I know they do man this is where the placebo effect kicks in, I too was roped in by oxy during a cutting phase just over a year ago.

For me I got nothing from it, it was the training and diet that done it for me. As far as energy I felt a slight tingle/kick from the caffeine in it but honestly I get more of a kick from a can of monster

I wouldn't recommend it , most people think it works but really it's just placebo imo. honestly taking a caffeine supplement would have a similar effect with a good diet and training program.

But Ye if your sensitive to stimulants, give it a miss so because it does contain caffeine Etc.

Not too mention you would have to cycle this product, the chances are you would crash hard during off phase not to mention a great chance of putting the weight back on due to oxy supposedly suppressing your appetite.

In my experience it's a no. The only fat burners Iv seen work with my own eyes on a freind were anabolic ones for obvious reasons as you could imagine!

dave80 · 21-01-2012 9:41pm

argos now selling myprotein stuff, bit pricer than there own website

http://www.argos.ie/static/Browse/ID72/15530987/c_1/1%7Ccategory_root%7CSports+and+leisure%7C14419152/c_2/2%7C14419152%7CNutrition+aids+and+supplements%7C14419289/c_3/3%7Ccat_14419289%7CMuscle+building%7C15530987/pp/20/r_001/5%7CBrands%7CMy+Protein%7C1/s/Price%3A+Low+-+High.htm

Kevin Duffy · 21-01-2012 10:16pm

dave80 wrote: »

argos now selling myprotein stuff, bit pricer than there own website

http://www.argos.ie/static/Browse/ID72/15530987/c_1/1%7Ccategory_root%7CSports+and+leisure%7C14419152/c_2/2%7C14419152%7CNutrition+aids+and+supplements%7C14419289/c_3/3%7Ccat_14419289%7CMuscle+building%7C15530987/pp/20/r_001/5%7CBrands%7CMy+Protein%7C1/s/Price%3A+Low+-+High.htm

A quick and dirty comparison with a calculation on the back of a beermat says the single items are a little dearer, more or less what you'd expect, but their bundles are a ****ing ludicrous price :eek: - 4 item bundle for €128, nearest comparison (by goal) on myprotein is an 8 item bundle for under €50. Jaysis.

Mellor · 22-01-2012 6:45am

Comparing by goal doesn't show much unless the items are similar, including size of packets

jugger0 · 22-01-2012 6:58am

Any one got any good sites for buying supplements in oz? shops here are ridiculous.

Mellor · 22-01-2012 8:46am

jugger0 wrote: »

Any one got any good sites for buying supplements in oz? shops here are ridiculous.

What are you looking for.
I generally only buy ON protein from discount places, GNC or ASN are very expensive

jugger0 · 22-01-2012 1:34pm

Mellor wrote: »

What are you looking for.
I generally only buy ON protein from discount places, GNC or ASN are very expensive

A good whey protein and maybe some jack3d if its cheap, is there a shop in town i could go to or is a website my best bet?

Mellor · 23-01-2012 1:39am

What city do you live in?

ON 5lb tubs are $70-80
I bought Jack3D in ASN for I think $45

http://www.adastreet.com.au/
http://www.nutritionwarehouse.com.au/

Are two of the more reasonable priced sites.

mufcboy1999 · 23-01-2012 2:11am

Can anyone recommend a supplement site that's cheaper than universalnutrition.ie?

I'm looking for a supplier to buy 2 big tubs of ON whey, two 2lb tubs of ON casein and 2 ON super mass gainers for me and a mate.

Universal nutrition quoted me 246 euro for the lot with 2 free tubs of 300g creatine that come with the mass gainers... And a free shaker and 1 or 2 other small bits with free delivery.

Do any of Ye know a place/site that can do better than 246 for the above products?

Don't want myprotein or any other brands, I'm sticking to ON for the time being as I know what I'm getting with them.

Cheers!

Mellor · 23-01-2012 2:26am

I find Myprotein to be better than On. At least for the whey.
Better tastes, betting miing, and better priced.

And I was a massive ON supporter. Back in Oz now and cany get MP. So I use on. But if I had the option, I'd be using MP

jugger0 · 23-01-2012 2:45am

Mellor wrote: »

What city do you live in?

ON 5lb tubs are $70-80
I bought Jack3D in ASN for I think $45

http://www.adastreet.com.au/
http://www.nutritionwarehouse.com.au/

Are two of the more reasonable priced sites.

Thanks a million man! im in Sydney, will check those sites out now.

Gummy Panda · 23-01-2012 9:22am

mufcboy1999 wrote: »

Can anyone recommend a supplement site that's cheaper than universalnutrition.ie?

I'm looking for a supplier to buy 2 big tubs of ON whey, two 2lb tubs of ON casein and 2 ON super mass gainers for me and a mate.

Universal nutrition quoted me 246 euro for the lot with 2 free tubs of 300g creatine that come with the mass gainers... And a free shaker and 1 or 2 other small bits with free delivery.

Do any of Ye know a place/site that can do better than 246 for the above products?

Don't want myprotein or any other brands, I'm sticking to ON for the time being as I know what I'm getting with them.

Cheers!

Try discountsupplements.ie

I don't think you'll get much better as the margin on ON stuff is suppose to be low.

CreativeChris · 23-01-2012 12:54pm

Just going back to the creatine question, in the loading phase, is it sufficient to take 1 drink in the morning, one before working out, one after working out and one at night? Or whats the best way to do it?

drdeadlift · 23-01-2012 6:21pm

mufcboy1999 wrote: »

Can anyone recommend a supplement site that's cheaper than universalnutrition.ie?

I'm looking for a supplier to buy 2 big tubs of ON whey, two 2lb tubs of ON casein and 2 ON super mass gainers for me and a mate.

Universal nutrition quoted me 246 euro for the lot with 2 free tubs of 300g creatine that come with the mass gainers... And a free shaker and 1 or 2 other small bits with free delivery.

Do any of Ye know a place/site that can do better than 246 for the above products?

Don't want myprotein or any other brands, I'm sticking to ON for the time being as I know what I'm getting with them.

Cheers!

What is your budget and are you willing to collect??

RMD · 23-01-2012 8:21pm

mufcboy1999 wrote: »

Can anyone recommend a supplement site that's cheaper than universalnutrition.ie?

I'm looking for a supplier to buy 2 big tubs of ON whey, two 2lb tubs of ON casein and 2 ON super mass gainers for me and a mate.

Universal nutrition quoted me 246 euro for the lot with 2 free tubs of 300g creatine that come with the mass gainers... And a free shaker and 1 or 2 other small bits with free delivery.

Do any of Ye know a place/site that can do better than 246 for the above products?

Don't want myprotein or any other brands, I'm sticking to ON for the time being as I know what I'm getting with them.

Cheers!

If you read the ingredient label you know exactly what you're getting from MyProtein, it's not that hard. Hell of a lot cheaper too. They have some very good bundles going right now, most being 60 quid for a months worth of nutrition.

Problem with other sites for brand supplements is the cheapest ones will generally have huge postal expenses invovled. BB.com is dirt cheap for brand supplements but the delivery is a killer. http://www.dolphinfitness.co.uk/en/ are also generally very good but for what you're looking at it comes too 236 without the creatine, with delivery being free.

Even though you said you don't want MyProtein, give this a look. Much better value. http://www.myprotein.com/ie/products/the-bulk-up-bundle

mufcboy1999 · 23-01-2012 11:49pm

drdeadlift wrote: »

What is your budget and are you willing to collect??

maybe, where are you? budget is no more than the 240 iv been quoted for them already.

If you read the ingredient label you know exactly what you're getting from MyProtein, it's not that hard. Hell of a lot cheaper too. They have some very good bundles going right now, most being 60 quid for a months worth of nutrition.

Problem with other sites for brand supplements is the cheapest ones will generally have huge postal expenses invovled. BB.com is dirt cheap for brand supplements but the delivery is a killer. http://www.dolphinfitness.co.uk/en/ are also generally very good but for what you're looking at it comes too 236 without the creatine, with delivery being free.

Even though you said you don't want MyProtein, give this a look. Much better value. http://www.myprotein.com/ie/products/the-bulk-up-bundle

just dont like the brand mate, taste's like muck most of it too.

id rather fork out the extra few quid for the ON gainer which gives me more calories a serving with mostly good carbs and more protein per serving too.

myprotein doesn't even break down properly the nutritional facts on its products on the site, really don't like them their cheap for a reason imo.

cheers anyway but im trying to stick with ON i like their products and know what im getting with them.

Inspector Coptoor · 24-01-2012 12:19am

Just bought two tubs 2.27kg Total Peptide (70.5% protein) 3 x 1kg peanut butter, 500g Taurine, 6kg of egg whites and 270 Omega 3 fish oil tabs for €125 with MP and free delivery.

nice one

nbrady20009 · 24-01-2012 1:24am

Liam Henners257 wrote: »

Just bought two tubs 2.27kg Total Peptide (70.5% protein) 3 x 1kg peanut butter, 500g Taurine, 6kg of egg whites and 270 Omega 3 fish oil tabs for €125 with MP and free delivery.

nice one

What's total peptide like? At €28 a tub I'd be tempted to pick up some.

Gummy Panda · 24-01-2012 9:37am

nbrady20009 wrote: »

Liam Henners257 wrote: »

Just bought two tubs 2.27kg Total Peptide (70.5% protein) 3 x 1kg peanut butter, 500g Taurine, 6kg of egg whites and 270 Omega 3 fish oil tabs for €125 with MP and free delivery.

nice one

What's total peptide like? At €28 a tub I'd be tempted to pick up some.

I find it and the MP MAX range very gloopy. Too much xanthan gum. Though I'm probably just sick of shakes.

It's prop blend as well. Don't see the point in that when the competition are using their blend break down as a selling point.

marathonic · 24-01-2012 11:32am

nbrady20009 wrote: »

What's total peptide like? At €28 a tub I'd be tempted to pick up some.

Where's it €28 a tub at? I see €44 on the site. Also, what are peoples thoughts on liquid egg whites? I've loads of protein and will be ordering my next batch of peanut butter soon. However, I may add liquid egg whites if the feedback on them is good.

Inspector Coptoor · 24-01-2012 11:44am

It's €28 a tub when you use the code JAN23 & get 30% off.

Liquid egg whites are great.
I have 6 tbsp per day along with 3 egg whites.
6kg lasts a v long time.
15% off at the moment with the code LEW.

I dunno what the total peptide will be like.
I'm sure it'll be fine. €28 a tub is a steal.
I'll post again when it arrives and I taste it

john_cappa · 24-01-2012 1:07pm

mufcboy1999 wrote: »

maybe, where are you? budget is no more than the 240 iv been quoted for them already.

just dont like the brand mate, taste's like muck most of it too.

id rather fork out the extra few quid for the ON gainer which gives me more calories a serving with mostly good carbs and more protein per serving too.

myprotein doesn't even break down properly the nutritional facts on its products on the site, really don't like them their cheap for a reason imo.

cheers anyway but im trying to stick with ON i like their products and know what im getting with them.

To be honest you are talking out your arsehole lol.

Mellor · 25-01-2012 2:52am

mufcboy1999 wrote: »

just dont like the brand mate, taste's like muck most of it too.

That's up to you. But having tasted MP, I have serious doubts that your ever tasted it.

id rather fork out the extra few quid for the ON gainer which gives me more calories a serving with mostly good carbs and more protein per serving too.

I don't think it does. Source?

myprotein doesn't even break down properly the nutritional facts on its products on the site, really don't like them their cheap for a reason imo.

They break down all there products, what are you talking about?

ON is better than BSN, maximuscle etc because they cut the crap, marketing budget etc.
This is essentially the same as MP, they just go a bit further with it.

If you'd rather us ON thats fiar enough. I use ON as MP isn't an option. But your reasions for it are silly imo.

Mellor · 25-01-2012 3:13am

I had a look at the nutritional info there.

ON Serious Mass - 375 cals and 15g Protein per 100g
ON Whey Gold Standard - 394 cals and 78g Protein per 100g

MP True Gainer - 411 calls and 34g Protein per 100g
MP Impact Whey - 393 cals and 82g Protein

I quoted the first gainer from about 4 choices. The others were similar enough, the new one had slightly more cals and protein.

itsallaboutheL · 25-01-2012 3:24am

Liam Henners257 wrote: »

Just bought two tubs 2.27kg Total Peptide (70.5% protein) 3 x 1kg peanut butter, 500g Taurine, 6kg of egg whites and 270 Omega 3 fish oil tabs for €125 with MP and free delivery.

nice one

How are you not enormous by now!

I wish i wasn't such a useless lazy bastard and would actually buy some stuff.

Gummy Panda · 25-01-2012 11:37am

Mellor wrote: »

I had a look at the nutritional info there.

ON Serious Mass - 375 cals and 15g Protein per 100g
ON Whey Gold Standard - 394 cals and 78g Protein per 100g

MP True Gainer - 411 calls and 34g Protein per 100g
MP Impact Whey - 393 cals and 82g Protein

I quoted the first gainer from about 4 choices. The others were similar enough, the new one had slightly more cals and protein.

Price wise you are generally better off with bulk supplier as at the end of the day it all comes from the same sources in Europe e.g. Glanbia

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