The Official Cavan GAA Discussion thread.

Cavan_King · 19-02-2020 11:41pm

rrs wrote: »

Another win would likely secure survival. I don't think Cavan will be settling for that. After the Armagh game they would have, with the absentees, but there is lots of mediocre teams in the Division.
Kildare are under pressure, another defeat and their promotion hopes will be over.

Fermanagh in Brewster will be tricky but beatable. Their free taking was suppose to be poor against Westmeath. Quigley not involved this year and Corrigan not been involved m

I don't know if you could describe any team in Division 2 as ''mediocre''. Teams are there on merit and Armagh, Kildare and Roscommon are good teams.

We all know what Fermanagh will bring to the table - putrid football. I saw them last year against Meath in Navan. It was terrible stuff. 15 men behind the ball, try to hit you on the break and get a free for Quigley to put over. It made the Black Death look like free flowing football!

They don't have Quigley this year but I wouldn't expect much change. Our challenge is breaking them down and its good to see lads like Smith and Pierson scoring from distance because that will be needed in Brewster.

rrs · 20-02-2020 12:16am

There is no stellar team .Donegal were that last year in Division 2.. Armagh would probaly be the strongest team in the Division but lost by 6 to Laois. I watched Kildare against Armagh and they were very poor. They will improve but they are in Division 2 for a reason.
Kildare had a poor year last year League and Championship, so they have a point to prove.

Roscommon are Connacht champions but without a lot of presently. They are a bit like Armagh, good forwards, with a shakey defence.

Cavan_King · 21-02-2020 8:17pm

What way did Cavan line out last week lads? I've seen a full back line of Brady, Brady and Faulkner mentioned - did Ciaran Brady really play in the full back line?
Conroy was named corner back, where did he play? From what I've seen, back six were C. Brady, Faulker, K. Brady, G Smith, M. Reilly, O. Kiernan - where did everyone else line out?

baconsarnie · 21-02-2020 10:58pm

Cavan_King wrote: »

What way did Cavan line out last week lads? I've seen a full back line of Brady, Brady and Faulkner mentioned - did Ciaran Brady really play in the full back line?
Conroy was named corner back, where did he play? From what I've seen, back six were C. Brady, Faulker, K. Brady, G Smith, M. Reilly, O. Kiernan - where did everyone else line out?

In earlier posts we all (rightly) praised the work rate and application of the lads but a massive tip of the hat should go to management for how they got it tactically.

Conroy lined out at the middle with Galligan, with McKiernan and Magee more or less as auxiliary midfielders meant that we had 4 big men across the middle with the breeze which meant we could press and also win the ball if Laois went long.

Martin Reilly was centre half back and ran the show. If we have as poor conditions tomorrow, definitely worth having him there again to pull the strings. Unlike the Westmeath game, James Smith did play as a full forward. Looked like the Holla played as a sweeper but interchanged fairly much with Martin Reilly. I see Meade is listed to come back in but wouldn’t be surprised to see Martin Reilly back to do a similar job in Brewster.

Cavan_King · 21-02-2020 11:24pm

baconsarnie wrote: »

In earlier posts we all (rightly) praised the work rate and application of the lads but a massive tip of the hat should go to management for how they got it tactically.

Conroy lined out at the middle with Galligan, with McKiernan and Magee more or less as auxiliary midfielders meant that we had 4 big men across the middle with the breeze which meant we could press and also win the ball if Laois went long.

Martin Reilly was centre half back and ran the show. If we have as poor conditions tomorrow, definitely worth having him there again to pull the strings. Unlike the Westmeath game, James Smith did play as a full forward. Looked like the Holla played as a sweeper but interchanged fairly much with Martin Reilly. I see Meade is listed to come back in but wouldn’t be surprised to see Martin Reilly back to do a similar job in Brewster.

Conroy named there again tomorrow. Steamer has to take a lot of credit for reinventing him at his club as a centre half back when McGleenan had discarded him from the county panel. He has really bulked up and brought strength into his game.

No Conor Smith in the squad again tomorrow. Rushing him into that Armagh game is looking like a big error now.

Ryan Connolly might be vital tomorrow. Team is performing well but I’d like to see a bit more of him.

baconsarnie · 21-02-2020 11:32pm

Cavan_King wrote: »

No Conor Smith in the squad again tomorrow. Rushing him into that Armagh game is looking like a big error now

I agree. But we’ve done okay since the Armagh game, so not all doom and gloom!!!

baconsarnie · 22-02-2020 2:24pm

Game on, pitch passed inspection. See yis later!!!

Gallant_JJ · 22-02-2020 9:38pm

Great win, fair play to them. Hugely transformed since the Armagh game.

benjy1000 · 22-02-2020 9:56pm

Great win.
Now Beat Clare & Roscommon at home & will be enough for promotion.
Fair play to them

cavan4sam · 22-02-2020 11:06pm

Great win
Nice to put a run together hopefully beat Clare and kildare and get back up

Cavan_King · 23-02-2020 12:20am

That’s a huge result. Will be interesting to see what way the games tomorrow go. We’re the only team to have won games away from home to date. Clare, Westmeath & Kildare are at home tomorrow. Roscommon vs Kildare is a big game.

quidel · 23-02-2020 12:36am

Another great result on a very tough night. It wasn’t pretty at times but the application and attitude was very good. The goals were a little fortunate. There is still a place for landing the odd high ball on the square particularly in such conditions. Cavan have a few big men that should compete for a ball sent in on the goalie. Hopefully every focus is placed now on the Clare game. Throw everything at it and continuing this good run of results. Forget about the kildare & roscommon games until Cavan have reached the comfort of 8 points. Should that win be achieved then Cavan’s sights can be set higher for the rest of the league campaign.

tanko · 23-02-2020 2:05pm

At the start of the league, i would have been happy enough to stay in the division and still would but it would be great to get promoted even if it's only for one year. It might help to keep lads interested. The overall standard in division two isn't hectic this year. I can't see too many reasons why we can't win two out of the last three games.

Cavan_King · 23-02-2020 3:57pm

tanko wrote: »

At the start of the league, i would have been happy enough to stay in the division and still would but it would be great to get promoted even if it's only for one year. It might help to keep lads interested. The overall standard in division two isn't hectic this year. I can't see too many reasons why we can't win two out of the last three games.

The standard is never too hectic. Last year Meath got promoted and they’re making a bigger mess of being promoted than us and Roscommon last year - we were at least competitive in most games.

I think we’re building a committed team of players but would agree with others that beating Clare and getting to 8 points has to be the first goal.

Great to see Gearoid getting back into form last night and Conor Madden back on the pitch. Our established lads are standing up and being counted.

Cavan_King · 23-02-2020 4:42pm

Armagh and Westmeath draw. 3-12 to 2-15. Armagh stormed out and were 1-3 to no score ahead but then needed a Jamie Clarke goal in the dying minutes to rescue a draw.

Laois have beaten Clare by a point. 1-12 to 1-11 so we’ll be playing a Clare team fighting for their top tier lives next weekend.

Cavan_King · 23-02-2020 5:27pm

Yevon wrote: »

Clare sound extremely dogged. And as Mickey Hannon pointed out, a dip next week from Cavan who are playing their 3rd week in a row is a likely occurrence. That said, we have momentum and are getting into that winning habit.

IF we can beat Clare, a win against Roscommon or Kildare will probably promote us. Wonderful position the lads have put themselves in.

Roscommon have beaten Kildare so we’re on six, Armagh, Roscommon, Westmeath and Laois are all on five and then you’ve Clare, Kildare and Fermanagh on two. Huge win for Roscommon away to Kildare.

I agree with what you’re saying re Clare and us playing 3 weeks in a row but at least we didn’t have a long journey this week and are at home next week. They’ve a two and a half hour journey and I wouldn’t expect they’ll bring much support as they’re a hurling county.

I wouldn’t be taking anything for granted though. Clare will be tough. That said, considering we lost Niall Murray without a ball kicked in the League, there have been some huge performances by Cavan. The rookie forward line has really stepped up.

quidel · 23-02-2020 5:39pm

The table looks great from a Cavan perspective. Hopefully Cavan take to the field next Sunday with no less application and work rate than they have demonstrated in recent games. Clare will present another good challenge and it would be great to see another very committed performance. There are lots of areas to yet be improved. Cavan were quite lucky not to be punished too harshly last night for risky kickouts. Towards the finish Cavan were in trouble in midfield winning their own kickout and a few changes were required earlier to this sector. Onwards and upwards hopefully.

rrs · 23-02-2020 7:52pm

Armagh are not great away, beaten by Laois and a last gasp goal today v Westmeath to level it. They are away to Fermanagh in the next game. You wouldn't be backing Armagh to win that.

Cavan_King · 23-02-2020 11:10pm

Yevon wrote: »

I think Armagh are better than us and we got past Fermanagh, Armagh will almost certainly go into that game as favourites.

I'm friendly with an Armagh supporter who doesn't miss a game and he is really dreading next weekend in Brewster. He says Armagh are very weak through the middle when teams run at them.

Good to hear in Mickey Graham's post match interview that he now has pretty much a full selection to pick from with Paul Graham, Conor Brady and Conor Smith all coming back.

We're unfortunate now in that the three teams we'll be playing are 2 fighting for survival and another fighting for promotion. We've no game left against a Westmeath or a Laois that will probably be looking a finish in mid table obscurity and take their eye off the ball.

baconsarnie · 23-02-2020 11:28pm

Brilliant win last night. Conditions atrocious and possibly worse than Sunday in Portlaoise, with ball handling a real challenge.

Again, lads gave their all for the jersey and that’s all we can ever hope for. Brilliant to see Gearoid back to form. Ciaran Brady was a driving force all day. Thought Oisin Kiernan was absolutely immense and kicked two monster scores as well. Special mention to Chris Conroy who had by far his best game at a senior level. He put some shift in, fielded brilliantly, used the ball well and took a great attacking mark.

Leaders all over the park, massive efforts put in. Roll on Clare!

piplip87 · 23-02-2020 11:39pm

Great performance again from the lads. Really put the Armagh result behind them. Promotion is now a real possibility.

I honestly thought we could be headed to the B championship but get two wins from the next three and we should be back at the top table again.

Hopefully we beat Roscommon jaysus they have been a right pain in the hole since that division 2 final about 12 years ago.

Cavan_King · 24-02-2020 7:09pm

piplip87 wrote: »

Great performance again from the lads. Really put the Armagh result behind them. Promotion is now a real possibility.

I honestly thought we could be headed to the B championship but get two wins from the next three and we should be back at the top table again.

Hopefully we beat Roscommon jaysus they have been a right pain in the hole since that division 2 final about 12 years ago.

Are Kildare not a bit of a bogey team for us? I don’t remember us beating them in recent years and they gave us an awful kicking the year Seanie kicked the score for them in 2012.

Cavan_King · 26-02-2020 2:24pm

Yevon wrote: »

The two teams we didn't really want to be facing for a must win game would have been Kildare and Roscommon. Last year's win doesn't wipe away that Indian sign Roscommon have over us. They have had and still have superior forwards to get the over the line.
Kildare are big and athletic and we usually struggle with sides like that. When we played them in 2015 in Breffni we weren't far off but someone got sent off (Ronan Flanagan or Damien Reilly) and we couldn't get back into the game.

Anyway hopefully the lads aren't looking beyond Clare at the moment.

Clare is a vital game to win. We're on six points but eight will see us safe. Regardless of the enjoyable purple patch at the minute, I expected us to win the games we've won before the league started. Lose to Clare and struggle in the last two games and we could still be in bother in regards to relegation.

I note Mickey said that he has a clean bill of health now with Madden, Conor Brady and Conor Smith (all the Conors!) all coming back. Where is Jason McLoughlin though? Very little mention of him of late. Considering how well the backline is doing its great to think he's still to slot in there.

baconsarnie · 27-02-2020 11:28am

Cavan_King wrote: »

Clare is a vital game to win. We're on six points but eight will see us safe. Regardless of the enjoyable purple patch at the minute, I expected us to win the games we've won before the league started. Lose to Clare and struggle in the last two games and we could still be in bother in regards to relegation.

I note Mickey said that he has a clean bill of health now with Madden, Conor Brady and Conor Smith (all the Conors!) all coming back. Where is Jason McLoughlin though? Very little mention of him of late. Considering how well the backline is doing its great to think he's still to slot in there.

The only thing I would be concerned about is complacency: as in “ah, sure it’s only Clare”. Don’t think Mickey Graham will allow that to happen.

While they have only one win, they only lost to Westmeath and Laois by a point. Having said that they haven’t scored more than 1-11 in a game (twice) so if we keep our intensity levels up, we should look to limit their scoring opportunities.

Granted that they haven’t conceded much either so Sunday will need us firing at all cylinders.

In terms of the starting 15 would like to see Conor Madden in closer to goal.

Third game on the bounce with two games played in horrendous conditions so the bench will likely play a role. Thought Benjeman Kelly showed fairly well when he came on, Connolly looked lively and as always Stephen Murray made an impact. With other lads coming back, that’s the kind of options we might need on Sunday.

Never mind about anything else- a win at home is all we need to focus on. Can’t wait! Hoping the weather isn’t too disruptive for once.

rrs · 28-02-2020 3:04pm

Gary Brennan and Jamie Malone would be big losses for Clare this year. Both nominated for All Stars last year. They still have a useful team, Tubridy and Keelan Sexton are good forwards. Sean Collins son of the manager is a good player too.
Cavan should have enough though.

Division 2 will look stronger next year, Cork likely be promoted, one of Mayo /Donegal /Tyrone going down with Meath from Division 1

tanko · 28-02-2020 5:13pm

rrs wrote: »

Gary Brennan and Jamie Malone would be big losses for Clare this year. Both nominated for All Stars last year. They still have a useful team, Tubridy and Keelan Sexton are good forwards. Sean Collins son of the manager is a good player too.
Cavan should have enough though.

Division 2 will look stronger next year, Cork likely be promoted, one of Mayo /Donegal /Tyrone going down with Meath from Division 1

The overall standard of teams in Division 2 this year is the worst for a good few years. It'll be a lot harder to get promoted next year.

Cavan_King · 29-02-2020 12:26pm

Yevon wrote: »

To be fair, they said that last year about this year.

I think you're right that every year that comment is thrown at Division 2 but some teams just don't perform to their expected level - Kildare this year, for example (and hopefully it continues!). Teo years ago Tipperary were about to go up against us yet last season they were relegated - it can be very topsy turvey.

Last year Meath went up too and they're performing worse than both us and the Rossies last year, failing to compete in most games. It's very hard to go up and stay up. I said it long before the season started, having seen a lot of Division 2 last year, the standard is markedly different.

I see the team is named for tomorrow:

Cavan (FL v Clare) – Raymond Galligan; Stephen Murray, Padraig Faulkner, Killian Brady; Gerard Smith, Ciaran Brady, Oisin Kiernan; Thomas Galligan, Christopher Conroy; Evan Doughty, Gearoid McKiernan, Martin Reilly; Oisin Pierson, James Smith, Bryan Magee.

One change with Stephen Murray named to start instead of Conor Madden.

Mickey also stating clean bill of health but no mention of Jason McLoughlin:

http://www.hoganstand.com/Cavan/Article/Index/309093

Cavan_King · 29-02-2020 1:22pm

Yevon wrote: »

I like Murray starting if he's fit for a whole game. Really think someone deserves a chance in place of Doughty. He hasn't taken his chance and the black against Fermanagh could have cost us dearly.

Massive 2/3 games now. Tomorrow likely to be another slog with the weather.

I was only at the Westmeath game and he performed well enough in that to keep his place. In fairness to some of the rookies, they need to be given time to find their feet and I'm sure Graham doesn't want to mess with a winning team too much.

That said, I'm still surprised we haven't seen more of Ryan Connolly. Conor Smith not in the panel either for tomorrow so mustn't be ready yet. I was hoping he'd get at least a few minutes.

Cavan_King · 01-03-2020 11:48am

Fermanagh Armagh game is off.

baconsarnie · 01-03-2020 5:13pm

That first half was absolutely shocking. I know it was our third game on the bounce so big ask to have the same intensity as previous games. But the handling, the poor kicking, the running into tackles, no support play...absolutely nothing worked. Think it was 33 minutes for our first score from play. Just not good enough.

Nice response in the second half but we missed two or three scoring chances when we had momentum but Clare were the better team, well fired up, well organised and kicked some good scores.

Lovely to have all four seasons in Breffni today as well.

rrs · 01-03-2020 5:57pm

Reality check Division 2 is Cavans level.

Clare deserving winnersmTubridy a great outlet in the gf line

Cavan_King · 01-03-2020 6:16pm

Yevon wrote: »

What was the attacking plan today? It just looked absolutely clueless.

Clare were good, had their homework done and fully deserved their 2 points.

I still dont think we can beat Roscommon or Kildare. Fingers crossed 6 points will keep us up.

It was slow, sluggish and lateral.

No point even thinking about Division 1 if we can’t beat Clare at home.

We’ll be lucky to stay in Division 2 because I can’t see us picking up any more points.

I don’t like to be negative because I know lads are giving their all but it’s hard not to be after that.

rrs · 01-03-2020 6:34pm

Oisin Pierson about the only bright spark. He kicked some great scores . Madden was very quiet. McKiernan fairly quiet at midfield, didn't impose himself enough in the game. The half back line looked good going forward. Oisin Kierrnan and Ciaran Brady kicked some nice scores, but they struggled when Clare ran at them. Clare ran down the centre of the Cavan defence a few times, created 2 other goal chances in the first half.

cavan4sam · 01-03-2020 7:14pm

Disappointing result today but no surprise really, Clare are a decent enough side and we were never going to have it easy
Terrible first half again.. Its becoming a bit too much of a trend now,
Hopefully we can pick up at least a point in the last 2 games to keep us up.
Don't think it's all doom and gloom but a bit of work to be done all the same

Thunderbirds · 01-03-2020 11:08pm

Think big problem is our lack of mobility in forward line. Playing midfielders inside not working as they are too slow. Pierson was good but he out the field a lot. Madden kept carrying into trouble. We need speed further forward and can't keep depending on our backs to do it.

celt262 · 01-03-2020 11:09pm

Need to beat Kildare or it will get messy.

Cavan_King · 02-03-2020 12:02am

Thunderbirds wrote: »

Think big problem is our lack of mobility in forward line. Playing midfielders inside not working as they are too slow. Pierson was good but he out the field a lot. Madden kept carrying into trouble. We need speed further forward and can't keep depending on our backs to do it.

Our play is too slow, lateral and risk averse. You can’t blame the forwards for being crowded out by the time we get the ball up to them.

Ryan Connolly came on and I don’t think he got one decent ball played down his wing. You’ll have people say he did nothing but what can a forward do if the ball isn’t played into them?

Even at the end, we needed a goal and the backwards and lateral passes continued. Most underage teams are doing drills where you can only play the ball forwards. I think our county team need to practice that for two weeks.

I’d be very concerned about our Division 2 and top tier status. Clare have two home games left and I can’t see us getting any points from the remaining two games.

rrs · 02-03-2020 12:12am

The play is run from deep most of the time through the half back line. Smith an dKieran are pacy players. There needs to be more looking up though, instead of head down soloing the ball. More quick foot passing. Clare overturned Cavan a good few times today,

Cavan_King · 02-03-2020 12:15am

rrs wrote: »

The play is run from deep most of the time through the half back line. Smith an dKieran are pacy players. There needs to be more looking up though, instead of head down soloing the ball. More quick foot passing. Clare overturned Cavan a good few times today,

There’s too much turning back and playing sideways passes. Clare killed us today with quick and direct running.

windy shepard henderson · 02-03-2020 3:25am

Cavan_King wrote: »

There’s too much turning back and playing sideways passes. Clare killed us today with quick and direct running.

this was our downfall in the games against westmeath, laois (first half ) and roscommon , also you must factor in the week 3 element we definitely had an advantage

we got a bit of a wake up call against laois last week our first half performance was terrible and had we lost today we were effectively relegated

i read here that we had our homework done , i know colm collins he is from the same parish as myself , he has copied and pasted an awful lot of the cavan module in recent years , he uses cavan and roscommon in references in team meetings regularly as ye are the only 2 teams making an impact on division 1 super 8 teams , also the style of football is nearly the same as what terry hyland used to play when cavan manager (the black death of Gaelic football according to joe brolly ) . he had his homework done as he has been keeping an eye on the progress ye have made since 2014 especially

the only way i can console ye lads is by asking ye to beat kildare in two weeks time in that astro sized pitch in newbridge , it keeps us safe for another week plus sends ye back on track in the promotion race .....you know it makes since;)

Cavan_King · 09-03-2020 12:27am

windy shepard henderson wrote: »

this was our downfall in the games against westmeath, laois (first half ) and roscommon , also you must factor in the week 3 element we definitely had an advantage

we got a bit of a wake up call against laois last week our first half performance was terrible and had we lost today we were effectively relegated

i read here that we had our homework done , i know colm collins he is from the same parish as myself , he has copied and pasted an awful lot of the cavan module in recent years , he uses cavan and roscommon in references in team meetings regularly as ye are the only 2 teams making an impact on division 1 super 8 teams , also the style of football is nearly the same as what terry hyland used to play when cavan manager (the black death of Gaelic football according to joe brolly ) . he had his homework done as he has been keeping an eye on the progress ye have made since 2014 especially

the only way i can console ye lads is by asking ye to beat kildare in two weeks time in that astro sized pitch in newbridge , it keeps us safe for another week plus sends ye back on track in the promotion race .....you know it makes since;)

I don't think the 3 week element is as big a factor as some, including the We Are Cavan lads, are making it.

Clare looked to have taken the Black Death a step further than Cavan with your quick transition play. It's been a problem with this Cavan team for years now that we aren't direct enough and unfortunately that was the prevailing factor last weekend. Even when we needed scores at the end, there was no urgency and we meandered in the ball.

Armagh gave Fermanagh a good tonking in Brewster last night so it certainly throws doubts over our positioning with us making such hard work of them two weeks ago.

Armagh vs Roscommon will be interesting next week because they are the two form teams going into the final rounds.

Cavan_King · 18-03-2020 11:40pm

From a purely selfish point of view, I wonder what way the current pandemic is affecting the travel plans of Dara McVeety and Conor Moynagh.

If you had Moynagh, Jason McLoughlin, McVeety and Niall Murray back in this team it’d make a remarkable difference.

rrs · 20-03-2020 1:11pm

Yeah, maybe in 2021 or thereabouts. Not going to be much ball this year. 6 counties on the same island still have pubs open, schools not closing until Monday. Peak of the virus in the UK expected to be June so...

Cavan_King · 25-03-2020 12:31am

Looks like the a League leader will be declared null and void like the ladies have done. I think that’ll suit us because if we have Murray and McVeety back next year, and Conor Smith and Pierson with more game time under their belts, we’re a far stronger proposition.

rrs · 25-03-2020 12:55pm

In fairness I wouldn't be bothered abouts football. This is a crisis and sport will be there in the future,a lot of people won't be.

Cavan_King · 03-04-2020 1:10pm

rrs wrote: »

In fairness I wouldn't be bothered abouts football. This is a crisis and sport will be there in the future,a lot of people won't be.

I think that's a very negative view to have. I'm a football supporter and football will come back. You have to be positive and realize there's light at the end of the tunnel.

rrs · 04-04-2020 2:36pm

Good for you. Its a realistic view. It will come back but doubtful if this year.

Cavan_King · 12-04-2020 8:02am

rrs wrote: »

Good for you. Its a realistic view. It will come back but doubtful if this year.

Very negative. State exams are expected to occur in late July/August with two weeks of classes before. Therefore the government clearly believe things will be approaching normality by July.

Areas of China were getting back to normal after 3 months and they had none of the preparation we had.

Taking March out of it even, that leaves April, May and June.

Regardless, like I said, I’d prefer to focus on hope rather than negativity and going on your last two posts I certainly wouldn’t like to be in earshot of such negativity whilst in isolation.

celt262 · 12-04-2020 9:12am

Cavan_King wrote: »

Very negative. State exams are expected to occur in late July/August with two weeks of classes before. Therefore the government clearly believe things will be approaching normality by July.

Areas of China were getting back to normal after 3 months and they had none of the preparation we had.

Taking March out of it even, that leaves April, May and June.

Regardless, like I said, I’d prefer to focus on hope rather than negativity and going on your last two posts I certainly wouldn’t like to be in earshot of such negativity whilst in isolation.

It's very unlikely there will be football this year. Whatever about some restrictions been lifted social distancing and bans on large gatherings will be in place until either this virus burns out or there is a vaccine. It's all well and good been positive but in reality things are going to be difficult for a long time.

rrs · 12-04-2020 2:26pm

Cavan_King wrote: »

Very negative. State exams are expected to occur in late July/August with two weeks of classes before. Therefore the government clearly believe things will be approaching normality by July.

Areas of China were getting back to normal after 3 months and they had none of the preparation we had.

Taking March out of it even, that leaves April, May and June.

Regardless, like I said, I’d prefer to focus on hope rather than negativity and going on your last two posts I certainly wouldn’t like to be in earshot of such negativity whilst in isolation.

You've got your head in the sand. You think football will go ahead because of exams?
They have to go ahead, or students will repeat a year.

It started in China in November but only made public in January, and they used strict draconian measure for lockdown. It was also kept in the Wuhan territory. Not across all of China

They mentioned a vaccine will take 12 months. They can't even be sure of how they'll lift restrictions before then
Europe is far worse then China

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