**Why you should insist on RGI. when working with gas**

I'm sure their fantastic, highly thought of members of the gas and carbon monoxide community and wouldn't be using a €39 service to generate more expensive call backs, I'm sure every time they use their anylizer the boilers are firing how else could they tick the box for boiler analysed and I'm also very sure if they did diagnose a defective thermostat on a ideal mini another RGI wouldn't have to call to find its actual a burnt out pump;) nope never happened

I got the hump now as I don't if I should cap the boiler or not, Rgii are telling me capping the boiler is over kill and silly, but the regs dosn't allow for gasmans discretion, what could be the right call now could change in the future leading to a prosecution under the same regs I'm being told to ignore:mad:, I should of been a train driver it's only forwards or back and I could use a coin to figure that one out.

JohnnieK wrote: »

Is that new or existing boilers :D:D:pac::pac::pac:

Bearing in mind you want a outdoor sensor from me, do you think ridiculing me on a public forum is the best way to go about it?


Apology accepted;)

Another example of death by stupidity, very sad

A self-employed builder has been fined £75,000 and ordered to undertake community service after work he carried out on an elderly couple's home resulted in their deaths from carbon monoxide poisoning.
Mohammed Jamil had been contracted to carry out work on the garage roof at the home of husband and wife Donald and Rosetta O'Sullivan in Leyton, between 14 February and 31 March 2009.
The Old Bailey heard last week (20 July) that Jamil was paid to raise the roof of the garage, but did not take into account the effect this would have on the safety of the gas appliances within the property.
An investigation by the Health & Safety Executive (HSE) found that in raising the roof, Jamil enclosed the flue of a boiler, leaving it in a dangerous and unsafe condition. As a result, the couple suffered carbon monoxide poisoning and were found dead at their home on 21 April 2009.
Had the flue not been enclosed, then the deaths could have been avoided.
Jamil, also from Leyton, pleaded guilty of breaching Regulation 8(1) of the Gas Safety (Installation & Use) Regulations 1998 for his failings in relation to the deaths. In addition to the £75,000 fine, he was ordered to pay £25,452 in costs and handed a 12-month community order requiring him to undertake 150 hours of community service.
After the hearing, HSE inspector Kevin Smith said: "This was a tragic incident that resulted in the unnecessary deaths of a retired couple in their own home as a result of carbon monoxide poisoning. Today's prosecution graphically illustrates the dangers of builders carrying out work without considering the effects on gas appliances. The builder failed to comply with the standards and regulations relating to gas fittings, which resulted in work that left flues in a dangerous condition, and allowed a colourless, odourless, silent killer to enter the property."
Paul Johnston, chief executive of Gas Safe Register, said: "In the right hands gas is safe, but badly fitted and poorly serviced gas appliances can cause gas leaks, fires, explosions and carbon monoxide poisoning."

http://www.hvpmag.co.uk/MemberPages/article.aspx?id=1533

lilywhitebhoy wrote: »

and just to add i found that the inspectors where ther to help us rather than persecute us as if they found something wrong they'd tell us, show us how to remedy it and maybe give us a better way of doing things

Welcome.

Like here Gassafe have their own problems, as most Gassafe are ex british gas they tend to be good guys but you get the ones who think their more judge Judy than inspector also they went through a time where they threatened to remove Gassafe cards from engineers because of incorrect condense lines.

It's easyier for RGII to prosecute as its written in to law, in the UK they need more proof of naughtiness, there are very large fines handed out regularly for non registered work in the UK which is not done here.

Did you spot that your only required as a RGI to raise a notification of hazard for a hazard under IS813 and you do not have to isolate and if you come across a illegal installation you can leave the appliance on if your gut says "its all right" and if you do isolate its ok for a other RGI to uncap if he thinks your wrong.

The one thing I would have changed tomorrow is when there's a gas related death(s) or explosion we should know in detail the factors involved in the incident to help reduce the risk of a similar occurrence as happens in the Uk.