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Trouble on buses

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  • #52
    Stephen15
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    punisher5112 wrote: »
    Still hasn't changed at all.

    What are the buses doing staying on the N11 and not bothering with the flyover or just setting down there. I wouldn't generally take inbound buses late at night perhaps it's about time they started introducing curfews for the on campus residences and close the student bar until they start copping on.


  • #53
    punisher5112
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,644 ✭✭✭✭punisher5112


    Stephen15 wrote: »
    What are the buses doing staying on the N11 and not bothering with the flyover or just setting down there. I wouldn't generally take inbound buses late at night perhaps it's about time they started introducing curfews for the on campus residences and close the student bar until they start copping on.

    Stay on N11 and go under the bridge.

    I wasn't aware the bar was reopened.

    I could be totally wrong but I was in there years ago before it closed.

    They tank up in the apartments etc.


  • #54
    Stephen15
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    punisher5112 wrote: »
    Stay on N11 and go under the bridge.

    I wasn't aware the bar was reopened.

    I could be totally wrong but I was in there years ago before it closed.

    They tank up in the apartments etc.

    Yeah they put one in when they built the new sports centre. I say put in an 11pm curfew on the on campus residences.


  • #55
    spacetweek
    Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 5,148 Mod ✭✭✭✭spacetweek


    A trifle surprised that the number 27 (which I know ends in Jobstown, not the nicest part of Dublin) has come up a lot because I've been getting that bus for 11 years now and zero hassle. Once or twice while sitting upstairs there've been a few characters who start ranting to no-one in particular who don't seem right in the head but they're usually easy to spot and you just make sure you don't sit next to them.


  • #56
    kravmaga
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    Bubblegummers wrote: »
    Just sounds like the 27 Dublin Bus. Unfortunately some buses are just a bad route, I don’t see this changing.

    The 27a/ b I used to take going back to the late 80's early 90's was always a troublesome route even back then, see nothing has changed so.

    They used to kick out the back windows back then and throw out the ripped up seats, always anti social behaviour. Lads smoking ballymagash upstairs and general intimidating behaviour


  • #57
    gmisk
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    StreetLight wrote: »
    There's a scumbag in a wheelchair who's a regular on the 79 route. Earlier this year, he was convicted of sexually assaulting a female on a bus. Last month, I heard he did it again.

    Yet drivers are not allowed to refuse him travel and those who do are disciplined.
    Is this a guy who pushes himself about on a wheelchair using his legs.... Rather than his arms?...I got a seriously creepy thing of him if it is..


  • #58
    jim o doom
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,474 ✭✭✭jim o doom


    D3V!L wrote: »
    All well and good. When I had this problem this morning and quietly asked your man to stop squashing me I was accused of being the aggressor by another person that didn't even know him and he looked like he was well capable of looking after himself. Probably because I was from majority race and he wasn't.

    Two years ago I was violently assaulted on a DB and since then I have learned to keep myself to myself. At the time of the assault the Gardai actually tried to prosecute me separately for defending myself. Thankfully camera footage and common sense prevailed, so I was fine. So physical fights on bus's are never the answer.

    Sorry to hear you've had such unpleasant experiences on buses recently, do you have the option to cycle / get a scooter or any other method to avoid the mode of transport which is causing these issues?

    I wasn't suggesting you get into an actual altercation, just that being well equipped to defend yourself is a very useful skill in our dangerous city, on the streets or on public transport.

    It boosts confidence, health and it may save you should you be unfortunate to get attacked.


  • #59
    jim o doom
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,474 ✭✭✭jim o doom


    Del.Monte wrote: »
    Possibly the OP should carry a large knife or handgun? :rolleyes:

    Yes of course, that's a totally valid comparison. Legally learning to defend yourself as thousands of people do all the time, is the EXACT same thing as illegally carrying an offensive weapon.

    Well done on drawing that completely valid comparison. :confused::rolleyes:


  • #60
    StreetLight
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    gmisk wrote: »
    Is this a guy who pushes himself about on a wheelchair using his legs.... Rather than his arms?...I got a seriously creepy thing of him if it is..

    That's him. You have very good reason to be creeped out.


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  • #61
    runswithascript
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,799 ✭✭✭runswithascript


    +1 for transport police across the Dublin Bus network, or even private security like the Luas.

    We are all supposed to be working towards using public transport more, for this to happen people need to know they are safe.


  • #62
    gmisk
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    StreetLight wrote: »
    That's him. You have very good reason to be creeped out.
    Do you have a link to story?
    Eugh thanks for the heads up, what a creep hopefully he gets locked up.
    What a horrific thing to do to someone.


  • #63
    StreetLight
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    gmisk wrote: »
    Do you have a link to story?
    Eugh thanks for the heads up, what a creep hopefully he gets locked up.
    What a horrific thing to do to someone.

    https://www.herald.ie/news/jail-for-wheelchair-user-who-groped-schoolgirl-on-bus-36476252.html


  • #64
    Seth Brundle
    Moderators, Politics Moderators Posts: 40,320 Mod ✭✭✭✭Seth Brundle


    jim o doom wrote: »
    It doesn't solve the issue properly at all, but an option to help with confidence in public, particularly in situations with aggressive strangers - learn to defend yourself.

    Some sort of martial art or say boxing.. whatever is most suitable for you.
    I know you can say "I shouldn't have to learn to fight to be safe in public", but the reality is, there are a lot of assaults in public.

    Being able to defend yourself is a great confidence booster in those situations, and in the event you do get attacked, you've a much greater chance of coming out on top.
    You shouldn't need martial arts skills to be able to use public transport!


  • #65
    gmisk
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 33,318 ✭✭✭✭gmisk


    StreetLight wrote: »
    https://www.herald.ie/news/jail-for-wheelchair-user-who-groped-schoolgirl-on-bus-36476252.html
    Well that is vile...she even helped him onto the bus.....christ and he only got 5 months


  • #66
    TeaBagMania
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    Seth Brundle wrote: »
    You shouldn't need martial arts skills to be able to use public transport!

    agreed, but thats the world we live in


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  • #67
    punisher5112
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,644 ✭✭✭✭punisher5112


    Simple fix to all this is enforcement of laws in place.

    Have specific inspector teams on the road day and night.

    Having just 4 for over 1000 vehicles is laughable.


  • #68
    Stephen15
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    punisher5112 wrote: »
    Simple fix to all this is enforcement of laws in place.

    Have specific inspector teams on the road day and night.

    Having just 4 for over 1000 vehicles is laughable.

    They should hire security like on the Luas but just for the rougher routes after a certain time. I don't they'd be needed for all routes just the likes of the 13, 27, 40, 76 and 79/a which seem to be the routes that have most of the problems. That would give the drivers some backup if there's to be any incidents or they have to refuse someone travel and would reassure passengers.


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