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Is beer in Ireland bad?

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,238 ✭✭✭saabsaab


    elperello wrote: »
    Perhaps if you dropped an email to Guinness/Diageo the information might be forthcoming. If you do please report back.

    Doubt that, saw online that a reporter wasn't given an answer to this a while back.

    Correct and it's not something that would keep me awake at night. As far as I can see the vegans objections were based on the fact that animal products were used during the production process rather than that they were drinking same.


    No, vegans were also worried that traces were in the final product. probably true of whatever is being used now too. Why the secrecy?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,569 ✭✭✭✭elperello


    Doubt that, saw online that a reporter wasn't given an answer to this a while back.


    That's interesting have you a link to that. I don't like the idea of them refusing to answer a query from the media.
    saabsaab wrote: »
    No, vegans were also worried that traces were in the final product. probably true of whatever is being used now too. Why the secrecy?

    Sorry I thought they were worried about the use of animal products.
    I'd imagine any trace would be as small as previous but as you say we can't be sure.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,238 ✭✭✭saabsaab


    See link below. Article quote
    'Guinness Beer claims they do not use high fructose corn syrup any longer, but refuses to disclose ingredient affidavits or full of list of ingredients.'




    https://foodbabe.com/the-shocking-ingredients-in-beer/comment-page-14/



    I also saw in another article that they weren't forthcoming with the new fining method information. Not just Guinness other manufacturers are slow to release this info by the way.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,238 ✭✭✭saabsaab


    https://nypost.com/2015/11/03/guinness-will-remove-fish-bladders-from-beer-to-go-totally-vegan/

    Also IT article..

    'Now it seems to have hit upon a viable alternative. Without specifying what the process involves, the company has announced plans for a new vegan-friendly filtration system at its St James’s Gate brewery in Dublin.

    The annoucement comes in the wake of a longstanding campaign by vegans and two online petitions .

    According to Guinness-owner Diageo, the new system will be up and running by late 2016, with the revamped brew in pubs and off-licences soon after.

    A spokesman said the product would taste the same but would be vegan-friendly. “Isinglass has been used widely as a means filtration in the brewing industry for decades,” he told The Irish Times.

    “However, because of its use we do not label Guinness as suitable for vegetarians, and have been looking for an alternative solution for some time.”

    “We are now pleased to have identified a new process and are re-investing in a new, state-of-art filtration system at St James’s Gate, which once in place will remove isinglass from the filtration process,” he said.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,238 ✭✭✭saabsaab


    As far as I can see Murphy's still used 'isinglass' as used for hundred of years.


  • Moderators, Music Moderators Posts: 12,525 Mod ✭✭✭✭iamstop


    balor69 wrote: »
    loads of great irish beers the country is full of fantastic craft breweries something for every pallet

    I found that on my last trip back I noticed a lot of selection, but not much variety.

    Seems every brewery has a stout, an IPA, a Red and maybe a Pilsner of Lager but there was not much variety between them.
    Where I am here in Canada there about 10 breweries in the city and a huge variety of beers in each category. I think some of them are in a friendly competition to come up with the strangest but tastiest variation on a particular type.
    Perhaps there is not as easy access to a large variety of quality hops and other ingredients in Ireland?


  • Registered Users Posts: 10,943 ✭✭✭✭the purple tin


    Something that can affect your hangover is whether you are standing or sitting on a nigh out. Even more so if you are getting long in the tooth.
    I noticed myself that if it's a really busy night and I am standing for maybe 3 to 5 hours my energy levels will be sh1t the nexy day compared to if I had got a seat.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,238 ✭✭✭saabsaab


    Something that can affect your hangover is whether you are standing or sitting on a nigh out. Even more so if you are getting long in the tooth.
    I noticed myself that if it's a really busy night and I am standing for maybe 3 to 5 hours my energy levels will be sh1t the nexy day compared to if I had got a seat.


    I prefer to stand and talk (maybe sometimes too much) feel better next day too. I don't generally like sitting unless those I'm with want to sit.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 905 ✭✭✭m8


    Is the Irish Pub as we know it fading away?

    Change is seen to be a good thing until we have it all changed and we forever look back at how good it used to be. :)



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,238 ✭✭✭saabsaab


    I think so. Just started drinking inside again after the pandemic. It's OK but not the same somehow and I seem to be getting more hangovers!



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 905 ✭✭✭m8


    Yes I feel that same but was putting it down to age. I used to love going for a pint on a Friday night now I just don't bother.



  • Registered Users Posts: 6 nick.kohl


    not bad at all



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,163 ✭✭✭✭Ash.J.Williams


    The beers you mention (Heineken) etc are the one direction of beer ie easily accessible to any gobshite and watered down to appeal to the masses



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,163 ✭✭✭✭Ash.J.Williams


    Ya feckin eejit


    there is no such thing as Guinness dregs from James gate


    whoever told you that heard 2nd hand about “spent grain” and couldn’t understand the process and then told you his theory on it .



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,238 ✭✭✭saabsaab




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,163 ✭✭✭✭Ash.J.Williams


    You don’t get dregs in a food manufacturing plant , all effluent get’s dealt with like any other factory, but the used grain makes it’s way into animal feed I think


    like it isn’t a bunch of lads with pipes in a room filling kegs spilling beer all over the place 😂😂



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,238 ✭✭✭saabsaab


    Ok. What about the dregs returns from the pubs and what happens to the effluent? Down the sewer?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,707 ✭✭✭BeardySi


    Late to the party, but hops is bloody expensive - particularly the strongest varieties used for IPA's.


    Lagers and especially stouts use very little hops and they're generally less expensive varieties. I strongly doubt any leaf or plug hops ever goes near your Coors etc, but extracts which would be cheaper again at very large volumes.


    When I was homebrewing, the whole hop load for a stout would cost about £1.50 for 20L, but you could be easily 5-10 times that for an IPA - particularly a dry-hopped one.



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