The Great Reset

Lex Luthor · 30-12-2020 9:44pm

Mandatory mask wearing is not permanent.

It’s not even enforced so I wouldn’t be getting too worked up about it

Do what you like
Go where you like

Penfailed · 30-12-2020 9:45pm

Quiner wrote: »

That would be a good idea, but they built too many and they were too big. It caused chaos. It also makes driving a vey unpleasant experience, which puts people off driving. Rosa Koire says it's by design.

Tell that to the Dutch. The cycle lanes are fantastic over there. Cyclists take priority over vehicles and pedestrians on a lot of their network. It's a great way to get around. It helps that it's mostly flat though...

Quiner · 30-12-2020 9:45pm

Penfailed wrote: »

Oh...so it was forced on people...and they protested...and it was stopped. That wasn't a very successful takeover. Should they have waited until 2030 to try it?

People shouldn't have to protest against crazy cycle lanes. The crazy lanes should never have been built.

Fighting Tao · 30-12-2020 9:46pm

Quiner wrote: »

Nor did anyone address what David Rockefeller said about world domination.

I did in multiple posts. Do I have to do it again? 76 year old said something you didn’t like about taking over the world. He failed by the time he died at 101.

I am going to take over the world. Working in the plan at the moment but it will revealed in unverified tweets. You should be scared. I am much younger than Rockefeller was when he devised his plan.

Quiner · 30-12-2020 9:46pm

namloc1980 wrote: »

It didn't cause chaos at all. TfL said the bike lanes have no negative effect on the traffic, in fact it improved things as more people choose to cycle for short journeys. A tiny minority wanted to keep the exclusive access for their cars over the well-being of the wider community and you think that is positive.....bizarre.

https://www.cityam.com/londons-new-cycle-lanes-are-causing-traffic-chaos-says-transport-secretary/

EyesClosed · 30-12-2020 9:46pm

Quiner wrote: »

People shouldn't have to protest against crazy cycle lanes. The crazy lanes should never have been built.

But people are not perfect. So someone with good intentions made a mistake. Life goes on... Not a conspiracy... Not by design

namloc1980 · 30-12-2020 9:46pm

Quiner wrote: »

What places we can go to, how many people we can see, all social activities banned, meeting friends discouraged, what we wear on our faces in certain places, can't leave the county, international travel discouraged and a nightmare.

You do realise there's a pandemic right? And you said the government is controlling ALL aspects of our lives. That's complete and utter nonsense and frankly lies.

EyesClosed · 30-12-2020 9:47pm

namloc1980 wrote: »

You do realise there's a pandemic right? And you said the government is controlling ALL aspects of our lives. That's complete and utter nonsense and frankly lies.

He admitted there was a pandemic, and that measures are needed.

Penfailed · 30-12-2020 9:48pm

Quiner wrote: »

I know, but it's true to say that the government controls all, or almost all, aspects of our lives. I'm not saying the circumstances don't warrant measures, I'm simply saying that all, or almost all, aspects of our lives are controlled by the government. It's not the case in New Zealand. I'm comparing Ireland with New Zealand because New Zealand was mentioned.

Again, they don't control almost all aspects of my life. Shock horror, I crossed a county boundary today. The sky didn't fall in.

Quiner · 30-12-2020 9:48pm

EyesClosed wrote: »

OK it was exactly the same in New Zealand but they locked their borders. So you are willing to admit that the controls are needed due to a pandemic... Brilliant... So what's the conspiracy?

Measures that are proportionate, sure. But we're on lockdown no 3 or 4 (that level 4 and 5 nonsense is basically lockdown) here. There won't be a country soon enough.

The conspiracy is that it's being done by design. That's what those who are against the Great Reset are arguing.

Fighting Tao · 30-12-2020 9:49pm

namloc1980 wrote: »

You do realise there's a pandemic right? And you said the government is controlling ALL aspects of our lives. That's complete and utter nonsense and frankly lies.

If governments were controlling all aspects of our lives then there would be no pandemic because the wouldn’t have the opportunities to spread as it is currently.

Quiner · 30-12-2020 9:50pm

Penfailed wrote: »

Again, they don't control almost all aspects of my life. Shock horror, I crossed a county boundary today. The sky didn't fall in.

But a lot of people are afraid to leave their own county. I mean they control what we can do, which is very little at the moment. I am for proportionate measures. Instead we just get lockdowns every few weeks. It's not sustainable.

EyesClosed · 30-12-2020 9:50pm

Quiner wrote: »

Measures that are proportionate, sure. But we're on lockdown no 3 or 4 (that level 4 and 5 nonsense is basically lockdown) here. There won't be a country soon enough.

The conspiracy is that it's being done by design. That's what those who are against the Great Reset are arguing.

Right but you admit it's due to a pandemic which killed 13 people today... So wheres the design?

Quiner · 30-12-2020 9:52pm

Fighting Tao wrote: »

If governments were controlling all aspects of our lives then there would be no pandemic because the wouldn’t have the opportunities to spread as it is currently.

This brings us to the criticisms of the PCR test, but that's not really my area (some will argue I don't have any area :pac:). Lex Luthor knows more about that than me. He posted a couple of informative posts about it the other day. I hope he doesn't mind my mentioning him.

Fighting Tao · 30-12-2020 9:55pm

Quiner wrote: »

This brings us to the criticisms of the PCR test, but that's not really my area (some will argue I don't have any area :pac:). Lex Luthor knows more about that than me. He posted a couple of informative posts about it the other day. I hope he doesn't mind my mentioning him.

No it does not bring us to the subject of tests. You were telling us repeatedly that the government controls all aspects of your lives. Your BS is well, BS. Stop trying to deflect again.

Penfailed · 30-12-2020 9:57pm

Quiner wrote: »

But a lot of people are afraid to leave their own county. I mean they control what we can do, which is very little at the moment. I am for proportionate measures. Instead we just get lockdowns every few weeks. It's not sustainable.

You should choose your words more carefully.

You said that masks are permanent - they're not.
You said that Sweden is cashless - it's not.
You said that the government controls all aspects of life - it doesn't.

namloc1980 · 30-12-2020 9:59pm

Quiner wrote: »

https://www.cityam.com/londons-new-cycle-lanes-are-causing-traffic-chaos-says-transport-secretary/

That says that some of the schemes may need to be tweaked and adjusted which makes sense. To argue that accomodating cycling in urban areas is not only a bad thing but evidence of a great evil conspiracy is just bonkers. Absolutely bonkers.

EyesClosed · 30-12-2020 9:59pm

Penfailed wrote: »

You should choose your words more carefully.

You said that masks are permanent - they're not.
You said that Sweden is cashless - it's not.
You said that the government controls all aspects of life - it doesn't.

Don't forget that bike lanes are by design to push the great reset... They are not

aido79 · 30-12-2020 10:01pm

Quiner wrote: »

Measures that are proportionate, sure. But we're on lockdown no 3 or 4 (that level 4 and 5 nonsense is basically lockdown) here. There won't be a country soon enough.

The conspiracy is that it's being done by design. That's what those who are against the Great Reset are arguing.

What measures do you think would be proportionate at the minute in Ireland?
In case you haven't noticed there's been a pattern. When there's a lockdown numbers being hospitalised drops and when the lockdown ends more people are hospitalised. This pattern repeats all over the world.

Who is designing the great reset?

Quiner · 30-12-2020 10:03pm

Penfailed wrote: »

You should choose your words more carefully.

You said that masks are permanent - they're not.
You said that Sweden is cashless - it's not.
You said that the government controls all aspects of life - it doesn't.

It's more or less cashless and will probably be fully cashless in a couple of years.

I think the talk I hear every day about them suggests they could be permanent.

I gave my opinion on government control of our lives. You disagree. That's fine.

EyesClosed · 30-12-2020 10:03pm

aido79 wrote: »

Who is designing the great reset?

Cyclists

Timberrrrrrrr · 30-12-2020 10:05pm

EyesClosed wrote: »

Cyclists

Lycia clad bastàrds forcing me to have a vaccine and get chipped

sydthebeat · 30-12-2020 10:06pm

Hang on, is the conspiracy now that Rockefeller designed the covid virus in 1951????

Mad Ted....

Quiner · 30-12-2020 10:06pm

namloc1980 wrote: »

That says that some of the schemes may need to be tweaked and adjusted which makes sense. To argue that accomodating cycling in urban areas is not only a bad thing but evidence of a great evil conspiracy is just bonkers. Absolutely bonkers.

Never said it was a bad thing. I directed you to an interview with Rosa Koire in which she refers to cycle lanes. Why not read about what she has to say about cycle lanes and Agenda 21 instead of throwing out words like 'bizarre' and 'bonkers'? I'm reading Reuters at the moment after another poster recommended them. I don't know why people can't be open to reading the opinions of people they disagree with. I do it all the time regardless of how it might seem here.

30-12-2020 10:07pm

Lex Luthor wrote: »

So Bill says 2022
https://www.theblaze.com/amp/bill-gates-coronavirus-vaccine-lockdowns-restaurants-2649471937?__twitter_impression=true

Martin says "This time we truly have an end in sight.“

If Bill says 2022, then Michael shouldn’t contradict him
Bill is calling the shots

Just to point out in relation to this, the US lacks an infrastructure for socialised healthcare so struggle to deliver things like vaccines on this scale. So yep, it probably will be 2022 when America can consider some normality. It'll vary by country. That's a reality. Not an evil plot.

EyesClosed · 30-12-2020 10:07pm

Quiner wrote: »

Never said it was a bad thing. I directed you to an interview with Rosa Koire in which she refers to cycle lanes. Why not read about what she has to say about cycle lanes and Agenda 21 instead of throwing out words like 'bizarre' and 'bonkers'? I'm reading Reuters at the moment after another poster recommended them. I don't know why people can't be open to reading the opinions of people they disagree with. I do it all the time regardless of how it might seem here.

Because she's wrong, and we proved her wrong. Will you accept cycle lanes where voted in here? And are loved by the Dutch. And the ones in London where removed.

Quiner · 30-12-2020 10:09pm

aido79 wrote: »

What measures do you think would be proportionate at the minute in Ireland?
In case you haven't noticed there's been a pattern. When there's a lockdown numbers being hospitalised drops and when the lockdown ends more people are hospitalised. This pattern repeats all over the world.

Who is designing the great reset?

I said a couple of days ago that I'd try out the Great Barrington Declaration approach. It'd be up to the public health officials to work out how to implement it. They could discuss it with Professor Gupta and others. Do you agree that endless lockdowns are unsustainable?

Quiner · 30-12-2020 10:11pm

EyesClosed wrote: »

Because she's wrong, and we proved her wrong. Will you accept cycle lanes where voted in here? And are loved by the Dutch. And the ones in London where removed.

How did you prove her wrong?

I'm not against cycle lanes. I like them. I'm saying that Rosa Koire considers them to be part of Agenda 21.

EyesClosed · 30-12-2020 10:12pm

Quiner wrote: »

How did you prove her wrong?

I'm not against cycle lanes. I like them. I'm saying that Rosa Koire considers them to be part of Agenda 21.

I proved her wrong by showing you that we voted for them. They wouldn't be here unless that happened.

Quiner · 30-12-2020 10:13pm

And this man, Preisdent-Elect Nick F Cerutti, says the next one Bill Gates mentioned a few months ago and said would get people's attention is set for February:

https://twitter.com/NickFCerutti/status/1344067224538132480

I don't know why people don't like Twitter. You can find out lots of things on Twitter.

Quiner · 30-12-2020 10:13pm

EyesClosed wrote: »

I proved her wrong by showing you that we voted for them. They wouldn't be here unless that happened.

But she was talking about the US in that interview.

EyesClosed · 30-12-2020 10:14pm

Quiner wrote: »

But she was talking about the US in that interview.

Right so the reset is not global then? Grand why worry

Fighting Tao · 30-12-2020 10:15pm

Quiner wrote: »

And this man, Preisdent-Elect Nick F Cerutti, says the next one Bill Gates mentioned a few months ago and said would get people's attention is set for February:

https://twitter.com/NickFCerutti/status/1344067224538132480

I don't know why people don't like Twitter. You can find out lots of things on Twitter.

Have you read the book yourself yet? A question you avoided already.

President elect of what?

namloc1980 · 30-12-2020 10:16pm

Quiner wrote: »

How did you prove her wrong?

I'm not against cycle lanes. I like them. I'm saying that Rosa Koire considers them to be part of Agenda 21.

So what's the evil conspiracy angle to bike lanes?

Timberrrrrrrr · 30-12-2020 10:19pm

Quiner wrote: »

And this man, Preisdent-Elect Nick F Cerutti, says the next one Bill Gates mentioned a few months ago and said would get people's attention is set for February:

https://twitter.com/NickFCerutti/status/1344067224538132480

I don't know why people don't like Twitter. You can find out lots of things on Twitter.

Meanwhile in this interview Gates talks about how things will get back to normal in 2021, no mention of another pandemic

https://www.ladbible.com/news/news-bill-gates-predicts-when-things-will-get-back-to-normal-in-2021-20201230?source=twitter

2 fast · 30-12-2020 10:22pm

Quiner wrote: »

Yep. And possibly on public transport:

https://www.smh.com.au/national/masks-part-of-melbourne-s-public-transport-and-flu-seasons-for-years-to-come-20201210-p56m9o.html

I don't see any harm! Less people coughing, sneezing and sputtering on top of people.

Ted_YNWA · 30-12-2020 10:23pm

Quiner wrote: »

And this man, Preisdent-Elect Nick F Cerutti, says the next one Bill Gates mentioned a few months ago and said would get people's attention is set for February:

https://twitter.com/NickFCerutti/status/1344067224538132480

I don't know why people don't like Twitter. You can find out lots of things on Twitter.

And who is he.

"Entrepreneur・Product & Interior Designer・RE/Property Mgr・Brexiteer・Trumpster・Intactivist・Unsolicited Political Pundit"

Are you looking at Interior Designers & Property Manager for the inside scoop now?

The list of people involved must be nearly everyone except you at this rate. No wonder you are getting paranoid. We are out to get you possessions.

Quiner · 30-12-2020 10:26pm

Timberrrrrrrr wrote: »

Meanwhile in this interview Gates talks about how things will get back to normal in 2021, no mention of another pandemic

https://www.ladbible.com/news/news-bill-gates-predicts-when-things-will-get-back-to-normal-in-2021-20201230?source=twitter

Still only much closer to normal. But like Hancock's 'semblance of normality'.

Also what does he mean by "have to live with various restrictions":

"The Microsoft billionaire also reckons that while we will likely have to live with various restrictions, eventually, life 'will be much closer to normal than it is now'."

Does he mean post-vaccination?

namloc1980 · 30-12-2020 10:26pm

Ted_YNWA wrote: »

And who is he.

"Entrepreneur・Product & Interior Designer・RE/Property Mgr・Brexiteer・Trumpster・Intactivist・Unsolicited Political Pundit"

Are you looking at Interior Designers & Property Manager for the inside scoop now?

The list of people involved must be nearly everyone except you at this rate. No wonder you are getting paranoid. We are out to get you possessions.

"Brexiteer & Trumpster" tells you all you need to know to be honest. Anyway I'm intrigued to know what he's President-elect of?

Lex Luthor · 30-12-2020 10:28pm

Quiner wrote: »

But a lot of people are afraid to leave their own county. I mean they control what we can do, which is very little at the moment. I am for proportionate measures. Instead we just get lockdowns every few weeks. It's not sustainable.

If people choose to stay within their own county or 5km then they choose to do so

Nobody can force you to stay

sydthebeat · 30-12-2020 10:28pm

Quiner wrote: »

I don't know why people don't like Twitter. You can find out lots of things on Twitter.

Because is full of unfiltered bull sh1t....

namloc1980 · 30-12-2020 10:29pm

Quiner wrote: »

Still only much closer to normal. But like Hancock's 'semblance of normality'.

Also what does he mean by "have to live with various restrictions":

"The Microsoft billionaire also reckons that while we will likely have to live with various restrictions, eventually, life 'will be much closer to normal than it is now'."

Does he mean post-vaccination?

It's a pity you don't question your own sources (e.g. Gemma O'Doherty) like this.

Quiner · 30-12-2020 10:29pm

namloc1980 wrote: »

So what's the evil conspiracy angle to bike lanes?

Rosa Koire: "Your town government holds meetings inviting you to craft this cool new plan for the centre of town. You go to the meetings and can basically weigh in on how you want the new streetscape to look but the plan is set before you walk in the room. What does it look like? Your downtown core (no matter how small the town) is redesigned to have multi-story apartment buildings constructed right to the edge of the sidewalk with very limited parking. The ground floor has space for shops. The street in front is narrowed to one lane in each direction with a median strip in the centre and bike lanes on either side. This is not just a design style; it is an ideology. The buildings are designed for ‘more eyes on the street,’ a law enforcement term. The idea is that single family homes provide too much private area for individuals, and personal yards cannot be surveilled. All recreational areas must be public. Private vehicles provide unfettered personal mobility and must be curtailed. Using land planning as a way to manage and control people is a vital part of this plan. Moving people out of the rural and suburban areas into the city centres is part of the plan. Where you live and how you live largely determines what your life will be. But this is not just a land use plan. It is a whole life plan that includes the energy market, the educational system, healthcare and big pharma, food production, and everything that you care about."

aido79 · 30-12-2020 10:29pm

Quiner wrote: »

I said a couple of days ago that I'd try out the Great Barrington Declaration approach. It'd be up to the public health officials to work out how to implement it. They could discuss it with Professor Gupta and others. Do you agree that endless lockdowns are unsustainable?

How did that approach work for Sweden? Professor Gupta is a big believer that more they had the best approach.

Of course endless lockdowns are unsustainable. An overwhelmed health service is also unsustainable.

Quiner · 30-12-2020 10:32pm

Ted_YNWA wrote: »

And who is he.

"Entrepreneur・Product & Interior Designer・RE/Property Mgr・Brexiteer・Trumpster・Intactivist・Unsolicited Political Pundit"

Are you looking at Interior Designers & Property Manager for the inside scoop now?

The list of people involved must be nearly everyone except you at this rate. No wonder you are getting paranoid. We are out to get you possessions.

I'm just saying that you can find out lots of things on Twitter, but people dismiss it as a load of crap.

For example, I just discovered the 'World Economic Forum's Technocratic Game Plan':

https://twitter.com/search?q=technocratic%20game%20plan&src=typed_query

Timberrrrrrrr · 30-12-2020 10:33pm

Quiner wrote: »

Still only much closer to normal. But like Hancock's 'semblance of normality'.

Also what does he mean by "have to live with various restrictions":

"The Microsoft billionaire also reckons that while we will likely have to live with various restrictions, eventually, life 'will be much closer to normal than it is now'."

Does he mean post-vaccination?

Did you get to that part and think

HA....GOTCHA!!!?"

If you had read further he explains

Although there will still need to be some restrictions (on big public gatherings, for example)

Quiner · 30-12-2020 10:35pm

Timberrrrrrrr wrote: »

Did you get to that part and think

HA....GOTCHA!!!?"

If you had read further he explains

No, I don't do that. I'm all for all and any good news. I was just wondering. I thought he meant restrictions in addition to big public gatherings. Thanks.

EyesClosed · 30-12-2020 10:35pm

Quiner wrote: »

I'm just saying that you can find out lots of things on Twitter, but people dismiss it as a load of crap.

For example, I just discovered the 'World Economic Forum's Technocratic Game Plan':

https://twitter.com/search?q=technocratic%20game%20plan&src=typed_query

People don't instantly believe it. Then they look into it, and it is total crap. Everything you have posted from twitter has been proven wrong...yet you still believe it

Quiner · 30-12-2020 10:36pm

aido79 wrote: »

How did that approach work for Sweden? Professor Gupta is a big believer that more they had the best approach.

Of course endless lockdowns are unsustainable. An overwhelmed health service is also unsustainable.

Again, using Twitter as a source, one comes across the following:

https://twitter.com/simondolan/status/1344330338408017927

Timberrrrrrrr · 30-12-2020 10:36pm

Quiner wrote: »

I'm just saying that you can find out lots of things on Twitter, but people dismiss it as a load of crap.

For example, I just discovered the 'World Economic Forum's Technocratic Game Plan':

https://twitter.com/search?q=technocratic%20game%20plan&src=typed_query

No you didn't

You found a twitter account with the name

A nation of sheep will beget a govt of wolves

That has a meme with some writing on it.

The Great Reset

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