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Anyone still waiting for stuff from China?

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,116 ✭✭✭archer22


    Sono wrote: »
    You must be buying from there and selling here to be getting items that quick, most items I buy from there I nearly forget about they take that long.

    Do you pay for more expensive shipping? Basic postage is pure pot luck when it will arrive

    As another poster said if you wanted it quickly then china is the wrong country to buy from.

    Just ordinary stuff for personal use...mostly free shipping and a few registered.
    Previous I even had things arrive in even under two weeks.
    If you look at the shipping delivery times chart on Ebay you will see that items taking 7/8 weeks are considered lost and qualify for refund.So I dont think its considered normal


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,615 ✭✭✭grogi


    archer22 wrote: »
    Just ordinary stuff for personal use...mostly free shipping and a few registered.
    Previous I even had things arrive in even under two weeks.
    If you look at the shipping delivery times chart on Ebay you will see that items taking 7/8 weeks are considered lost and qualify for refund.So I dont think its considered normal

    But it takes ages for the items being shipped. It will be marked as shipped, but in reality it will be in a few weeks. Joys of buying in China...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,116 ✭✭✭archer22


    grogi wrote: »
    But it takes ages for the items being shipped. It will be marked as shipped, but in reality it will be in a few weeks. Joys of buying in China...
    No in general they ship quickly because they know they are liable for refund if the item takes too long to arrive


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 32,688 ✭✭✭✭ytpe2r5bxkn0c1


    I have never received an item from China in less than 6 weeks. As someone else posted, I too have often forgotten about items from China because they took so long. An Post are certainly not part of the delay.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,476 ✭✭✭Sono


    archer22 wrote: »
    Just ordinary stuff for personal use...mostly free shipping and a few registered.
    Previous I even had things arrive in even under two weeks.
    If you look at the shipping delivery times chart on Ebay you will see that items taking 7/8 weeks are considered lost and qualify for refund.So I dont think its considered normal

    I am posting based on my previous experience of aliexpress with free shipping.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,116 ✭✭✭archer22


    I have never received an item from China in less than 6 weeks. As someone else posted, I too have often forgotten about items from China because they took so long. An Post are certainly not part of the delay.

    Out of my around 150 approx items previous to this none had taken 6 weeks.6 weeks then meant lost...only now is it the norm here.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 66 ✭✭troll_a_roll


    Not all products on AliExpress and others are shipped from China.

    I have received products within two weeks. Power banks shipped from Holland or Sweden for example.

    I actually make a note in a spreadsheet when I buy something and I also note the date I receive it. Most things do take a long time of six weeks or so but some items come more quickly.

    I received one item from AliExpress within three days! Shipped from Northern Ireland.

    I am still waiting on one item I think from the 11-11-16 sale on AliExpress.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 36,169 ✭✭✭✭ED E


    This topic is pretty well covered over here already:
    http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2057689533

    Looks like anywhere between 60 and 90 days is normal for orders from Mid Nov16 to Early Dec 16.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,241 ✭✭✭god's toy


    Here too, stuff ordered before Xmas, still waiting...


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 550 ✭✭✭zinzan


    Items arrived today!
    Ordered 22nd November... longest wait I've had yet for an item.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,802 ✭✭✭✭joujoujou
    Unregistered Users


    joujoujou wrote: »
    The worst ever delivery time from China I got in mid 2015 - something like 5 or 6 months, don't remember now. :o

    The fastest ever - last week. Aliexpress purchase on 24th of December, China post, arrived here on 5th of January. :D

    But, I made 10 purchases on that day, and only one came so far, so average throughput will be worse, obviously. :cool:

    Update: 8 out of 10 purchases already with me. One as above and 7 more last week and a week before. So in most cases 4-5 weeks. 2 items still on their way. ;)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 8,015 ✭✭✭CreepingDeath


    My (split) order was dispatched from China on Dec 4th, still not arrived.
    The tracking said it arrived in Ireland on Dec 16th & Dec 26th.

    So Irish customs are taking their sweet time.
    Although they certainly processed a phone I ordered swiftly and immediately charged me import duty and An Post processing fees for that... so there must be some priority in place on the parcels ? Fast tracking ones they can charge ?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 36,169 ✭✭✭✭ED E


    My (split) order was dispatched from China on Dec 4th, still not arrived.
    The tracking said it arrived in Ireland on Dec 16th & Dec 26th.

    So Irish customs are taking their sweet time.
    Although they certainly processed a phone I ordered swiftly and immediately charged me import duty and An Post processing fees for that... so there must be some priority in place on the parcels ? Fast tracking ones they can charge ?

    Mail and Packets generally go to the Dublin (airport)MC, Parcels go through Portlaoise MC and maybe athlone.

    If the tracking numbers start with a number rather than a letter then its the cheapest possible consignment and gives way to all other mail.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,821 ✭✭✭stimpson


    Don't give up hope people. My package arrived this morning.

    Posted 22nd Nov - 86 days in transit. Nearly ordered replacements yesterday!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,116 ✭✭✭archer22


    Anybody got any idea what's going on ?.
    I e-mailed An Post but so far no reply.
    I am beginning to trust An Post now about as much as I trust the Priests, Bankers and Guards :mad:


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,821 ✭✭✭stimpson


    archer22 wrote: »
    Anybody got any idea what's going on ?.
    I e-mailed An Post but so far no reply.
    I am beginning to trust An Post now about as much as I trust the Priests, Bankers and Guards :mad:

    If I was a cynical man I would say it's just business as usual.


  • Registered Users Posts: 4,349 ✭✭✭Jimmy Garlic


    Usually everything arrives. A lot of times stuff from China arrives the old fashioned way by sea so that's why there is often big delays.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,116 ✭✭✭archer22


    Usually everything arrives. A lot of times stuff from China arrives the old fashioned way by sea so that's why there is often big delays.

    Almost all the shipping numbers I have are China and Hong Kong air mail.
    Given that items are liable for refund if shipping is not in reasonable timeframe, no vendor would ship surface...knowing he would be liable to give refund :eek:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 36,169 ✭✭✭✭ED E


    Usually everything arrives. A lot of times stuff from China arrives the old fashioned way by sea so that's why there is often big delays.

    Even surface mail is 3-4wks. 12wks is an massive exception, in no way normal.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,380 ✭✭✭5500


    Ive had 2 deliverys this week from november, i dont think the problem is with anpost as once the items get here they tend to deliver within a day. I remember a few years back long delays from china coming up to christmas but theres definitely an exeption recently


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,116 ✭✭✭archer22


    5500 wrote: »
    Ive had 2 deliverys this week from november, i dont think the problem is with anpost as once the items get here they tend to deliver within a day. I remember a few years back long delays from china coming up to christmas but theres definitely an exeption recently
    I have checked through the feedback on sites I bought from and there is loads of thanks for fast shipping and delivery.So I seriously doubt the problem is anything to do with China or Hong Kong.And anyhow what are the chances of both China and Hong Kong post having such problems and nobody bothering to fix it?...that does not sound like China ;).

    At the end of the day the question is who gains from this?...and I can see only one can benefit...and thats the one who gets nothing out of the transactions only the expense and nuisance of sorting and delivering this ever growing number of packages from China.
    I can see how it would be in their interest to cause a few problems to try to reduce the volume and deter customers from buying and vendors from shipping.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,380 ✭✭✭5500


    Anpost have no control over the items before they arrive in ireland so i cant see how the finger can be pointed at them if they are delivering within a day of the items arriving here, so that debunks them sitting on container loads of mail for weeks on end in the hope it deters people buying from china.

    As an aside i also have packages that i sent to parcel wizard in october, thinking it would be quicker and they still have not arrived but have updated tracking from last month, some of my mates are in the same situation with items from november sent to parcel motel, both use royal mail as the middleman, i doubt they are also holding up mail as a deterrant.

    From my own experience the sellers in china couldnt care less if it takes a day or a year for you to get a package, once they get paid theyll do their best to keep your money and fob you off as long as they can, so i dont think the chinese would be in such a hurry to fix said problem, once they have your money thats all they care about.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 36,169 ✭✭✭✭ED E


    5500 wrote: »
    From my own experience the sellers in china couldnt care less if it takes a day or a year for you to get a package, once they get paid theyll do their best to keep your money and fob you off as long as they can, so i dont think the chinese would be in such a hurry to fix said problem, once they have your money thats all they care about.

    Not with Ali, after 60 days users can ask them not to extend and instead refund. Several on here have done that.



    Im not sure if we can determine who CNPost use for onward logistics when mail reaches Europe.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,116 ✭✭✭archer22


    5500 wrote: »
    Anpost have no control over the items before they arrive in ireland so i cant see how the finger can be pointed at them if they are delivering within a day of the items arriving here, so that debunks them sitting on container loads of mail for weeks on end in the hope it deters people buying from china.

    As an aside i also have packages that i sent to parcel wizard in october, thinking it would be quicker and they still have not arrived but have updated tracking from last month, some of my mates are in the same situation with items from november sent to parcel motel, both use royal mail as the middleman, i doubt they are also holding up mail as a deterrant.

    From my own experience the sellers in china couldnt care less if it takes a day or a year for you to get a package, once they get paid theyll do their best to keep your money and fob you off as long as they can, so i dont think the chinese would be in such a hurry to fix said problem, once they have your money thats all they care about.
    Yes An Post delivers the day after the item has been scanned...that does not mean that was the day it arrived in Ireland.
    As for "sellers in China couldnt care less" well I don't know who you buy from there but my experience with them from sites such as Ebay, Aliexpress and ChinaBuye is that they care very much and their customer care is excellent...they are after subject to feedback scores and poor feedback will wreck a business...They are also liable to lose money if the item does not arrive within a certain time.

    As for not being in a hurry to fix a problem...oh really you think they have got to where they are by being lazy careless slobs :confused:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 815 ✭✭✭Collibosher


    Had something shipped February 2nd, arrived yesterday :eek:

    Previous order shipped end of October, arrived two weeks ago :D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 36,169 ✭✭✭✭ED E


    Still on 2/4 here. Gonna be a real record if they do show.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,083 ✭✭✭Tow


    Got two packet shipped the end of December today. Still 3 others from before them MIA.

    When is the money (including lost growth) Michael Noonan took in the Pension Levy going to be paid back?



  • Registered Users Posts: 513 ✭✭✭waterfaerie


    I ordered three items on ebay from China in mid October. One didn't arrive until January and the other two have still not arrived. Both sellers sent replacements in December, which also have not arrived.

    I also ordered 17 items from Aliexpress on 11/11 and 15 of them have arrived so far. Only about half of those arrived within 60 days. The first one arrived very quickly, on the 28th of November and the latest one arrived just last week. I've already been refunded for the remaining two items but am still hoping they might arrive eventually.

    There is definitely something up because I have ordered plenty from China over the years and have never had this problem. The longest I've ever waited before was about 2 months but it was usually less than that. It can't be a coincidence that all of a sudden lots of orders are taking this long or not arriving at all.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,116 ✭✭✭archer22


    Well An Post finally got around to replying to my e-mail (only took them a week to answer) :rolleyes:.
    Anyhow their reply was that I should receive all international mail within 7 to 10 days, yeah right 7 - 10 days like that was ever normal from east or south east Asia :D.

    Don't think there is much point asking them anymore questions.

    Guess we might never solve the mystery...on the plus side there are a few items still managing to struggle through...1 this week and one two weeks ago.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,552 ✭✭✭dohouch


    Asked for refund today after wait of 75 days

    🧐IMHO, God wants us all to ENJOY many,many ice-creams , 🍦🍦🍦🍦🍦🍦🍦🍦🍦🍦🍦🍦



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,615 ✭✭✭grogi


    Got my order today - 22 calendar days. Not bad at all...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 815 ✭✭✭Collibosher


    Received four deliveries this week from different shippers. All left China either last week of January or first week of February.

    Hopefully things getting back to normal.


  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    I have noticed on a fair number of items coming from China that if there is no registered post on delivery that the times are very long.
    e.g. one item bought in oct only arrived a week ago (after more than 4 months). there was some free tracking on this and it had indicated as arriving in Ireland in November!

    I've had really bad times on multiple items in the last 6 months compared to what it used to be. if it's registered it's usually not too bad.

    am I paranoid here or is there now a policy to delay stuff from China/outside eu where no duty is being paid (under the customs limit).


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9,764 ✭✭✭my3cents


    I don't think the is any policy to delay stuff from China but afaik there is no incentive to expedite delivery. From what my postman says (if you can believe him) An Post gets paid so little to deliver mail from China that they aren't going to make it a priority.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,821 ✭✭✭stimpson


    There's a big thread here. http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2057689533

    Stuff seems to be getting through in the end. I waited 12 weeks for stuff ordered in November.


  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    I think that something is going on IN IRELAND.
    I had one low-value item that on free partial tracking said that it got to Ireland in November - only received it mid Feb.
    I'm guessing that the stuff is just being left in a warehouse/container somewhere as the lowest priority because An Post gets feck all money from delivering it.
    My advice is to pay that bit extra for tracking / registered post as it seems to get a better priority.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,344 ✭✭✭Thoie


    I'm expecting a parcel from China Post Registered. On the tracker, the last update is February 16th, saying "leaving Beijing Airport going to next airport/seaport"

    Do I need to be concerned that there's no further update, or is it perfectly normal?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,615 ✭✭✭grogi


    Thoie wrote: »
    I'm expecting a parcel from China Post Registered. On the tracker, the last update is February 16th, saying "leaving Beijing Airport going to next airport/seaport"

    Do I need to be concerned that there's no further update, or is it perfectly normal?

    Normal. Type that CNxxxxxR number into AnPost tracking, it will pop up eventually.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,766 ✭✭✭RossieMan


    Give it about 3 more weeks though. You'll never get it that fast from China direct to Ireland.

    Waiting 2 months currently on stuff. Don't mind the wait.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,380 ✭✭✭5500


    2 deliverys yesterday by anpost for 2 items shipped from china on the 14th


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,025 ✭✭✭ei9go


    I'm rapidly coming to the conclusion that a lot of these Chinese sellers don't actually send the items at all.
    They are hoping that you will have forgotten about the item and once it goes over the Paypal 45 days, they are quids in.
    There are too many items that I am not receiving for it to be random losses.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,116 ✭✭✭archer22


    ei9go wrote: »
    I'm rapidly coming to the conclusion that a lot of these Chinese sellers don't actually send the items at all.
    They are hoping that you will have forgotten about the item and once it goes over the Paypal 45 days, they are quids in.
    There are too many items that I am not receiving for it to be random losses.

    The Chinese sellers by and large (and I have been dealing with them for 5 years now) are excellent never had problem with them.

    It sure as hell ain't happening there.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 36,169 ✭✭✭✭ED E


    glasso wrote: »
    I think that something is going on IN IRELAND.
    I had one low-value item that on free partial tracking said that it got to Ireland in November - only received it mid Feb.
    I'm guessing that the stuff is just being left in a warehouse/container somewhere as the lowest priority because An Post gets feck all money from delivering it.
    My advice is to pay that bit extra for tracking / registered post as it seems to get a better priority.

    1 of my three was a proper tracked item (not CN internal only), still 62 days.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 36,169 ✭✭✭✭ED E


    ei9go wrote: »
    I'm rapidly coming to the conclusion that a lot of these Chinese sellers don't actually send the items at all.
    They are hoping that you will have forgotten about the item and once it goes over the Paypal 45 days, they are quids in.
    There are too many items that I am not receiving for it to be random losses.

    The issues impact Ali, not just ebay.

    And paypal give 180 not 45 days.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,116 ✭✭✭archer22


    I have been getting more of mine over last week, I think only 3 outstanding now.

    I have noticed several of the packages are tattered looking, like they have been lying at the bottom of a heap for a long time.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,198 ✭✭✭witnessmenow


    I got delivery of something yesterday (27th of Feb) that I ordered on the 6th of October and the package had a date of the 10th of October on it.

    140 days since the time it was shipped (10th), smashing my previous longest wait time of about 92 days.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,739 ✭✭✭nava


    MOD: Threads merged as both relate to posting from China


  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    An post are never going to admit anything on this but it surely comes down to a question of money - they are getting not much money to deliver the stuff.
    in addition the Irish government is losing out on vat + import duty (on the items under the customs limit).
    An post is still state owned isn't it?
    Letting stuff lie in the corner of a big warehouse for 2 or 3 months and then eventually delivering them is a way to discourage people from ordering from China.
    This wasn't an issue a year ago - why should it become an issue suddenly in the last 6 months?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 36,169 ✭✭✭✭ED E


    Not really, they have a peer to peer relationship with other countries. If they dont fulfil their obligations here there's no reason that UPU counterparts would continue to deliver outbound mail promptly.

    I'd be quicker to blame Rev&C for a backlog with non EU packet mail. It goes to the DMC before AP and revenue would rather catch valuables than be prompt.


    Assume COMREG quarterlies don't include international non-signed so we wont get performance figures.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,017 ✭✭✭tsue921i8wljb3


    This has been an intermittent issue for far longer than a year. I don't believe it is fair to blame An Post or Revenue when there is no evidence that they have any involvement in delaying packages.

    Who knows what route these non tracked parcels take from China or what intermediaries they pass through.


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