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Signs you are dealing with a 'Rooter'

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,262 ✭✭✭DBK1


    Baled a bit for this man again today. He was telling me about another local man that he’d be friendly with rang him about a week ago and asked him if he’d sell some of the hay out of the ditches. He told him he would sell some hay but he’d sell him the hay he baled this year as it’d be better than what’s been out for a few years now. The other man told him he didn’t mind taking the old stuff from the ditches as he’d used it for bedding. My man got very offended, told him that hay was far too good for bedding and to go and buy straw somewhere if he wanted bedding!



  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 1,899 Mod ✭✭✭✭Albert Johnson


    It's impossible to win with the likes of them because they change the rules of the game as it goes on. You'd be as well off buying it somewhere else imo because you'd only end up annoying both parties and no one being satisfied with the outcome. Some lad's spend there entire lives snatching defeat from the jaws of victory.

    As a poster above mentioned a lot of the time it's lad's being afraid that someone else might profit from what they got off them. You'll see lad's holding onto stuff and letting it rot rather than risk the next man turning a pound that they could have had. It's a desperately limiting mentality imo to spend you're entire life minding everyone else's business often at the expense of you're own.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,262 ✭✭✭DBK1


    All I could think of when he was telling me the story was your comment from a while back where you said “it’s his world really and the rest of us only live in it”

    I know the second man that wanted to buy the hay reasonably well, it’ll be interesting to hear his side of the story.

    While to me, and probably everyone else that hear’s the story, it seems like lunacy not to be doing something with the feed you’ve saved, I think the world is a better place having characters like that in it, life would be dull if we were all the same!



  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 3,903 Mod ✭✭✭✭Siamsa Sessions


    The problem with the current world is that we are all the same. And not half enough new (or ancient) ideas.

    Of course it’s wicked messing between them 2 lads but you are right when you say the world needs more characters like that.

    There’ll probably be a bigger crowd at their funerals than that of any of us “sensible” and “efficient” people.

    Trading as Sullivan’s Farm on YouTube



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,519 ✭✭✭✭whisky_galore


    I hate the kind of idiots leaving cars and machinery outside hoping it'll make a packet when it's rotting and falling apart and only fit for scrap in the end. Only themselves they're fooling.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,155 ✭✭✭893bet


    I don’t think most to this for that reason. I think it’s more a

    1) Hold that for a few years now incase I need it the odd time if the new one breaks down. Still there 10 years later and fully fucked now after year 2 of being layed up

    2) I will sell that now when I get a chance to take some pictures. But never get round to it.


    We have a back end grab that got a new valve chest that’s been parked up like that for years. Haybob destined for the same fate 😀



  • Registered Users Posts: 1,608 ✭✭✭memorystick


    When my neighbour changes the oil in anything, he pours the waste oil into the slats.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,155 ✭✭✭893bet


    No rooter ever changes oils.

    usually don’t have to as there are unrepaired leaks.


    What a waste. Burned oil is always handy.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,203 ✭✭✭emaherx


    Handy for what though? if tractors are serviced regularly there will be a lot of waste oil which should be disposed of responsibly. The most common suggestions on handy uses of "burnt oil" fit well with the thread title.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,509 ✭✭✭Jb1989


    Spraying machinery at year end, painting roof trusses, and fence posts.

    Giveing to someone with an oil burner for heating.

    Better ways than down the slats anyway.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,203 ✭✭✭emaherx


    Not the most common suggestion I see though......

    Not exactly the most environmentally responsible solutions either.



  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 12,700 Mod ✭✭✭✭blue5000


    You must live near me, when the tanks filled up with rain water on a neighbour here the oil floated on top of the slurry/water, then there was burnt oil in every low spot of the yard.

    If the seat's wet, sit on yer hat, a cool head is better than a wet ar5e.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,841 ✭✭✭✭whelan2


    A few years ago oh painted the floor of his lowloader with waste oil, it rained a day or 2 later and it was like a skating rink. Never repeated



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,892 ✭✭✭Odelay


    Jesus fuckin Christ! Some people couldn’t give a **** about anyone else.

    there are companies that recycle used oil and it’s not very expensive anymore.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,256 ✭✭✭Ubbquittious


    The local civic amenity site here is starting to charge to bring used oil. A lot more will be burning and pouring it if that trend catches on



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,892 ✭✭✭Odelay


    Why shouldn’t they charge? I pay form my domestic waste to be collected. Skips too. Why would any sane person pour oil down slats when there is a simple clean way do dispose of it?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,203 ✭✭✭emaherx


    They have always charged for it in Navan.

    But there have been farm waste collection days where oil and other chemicals could be brought for free, we got rid of most of ours that way.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,256 ✭✭✭Ubbquittious


    Because it's actually valuable stuff you are bringing them that can be recycled into new oil.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,580 ✭✭✭kerryjack


    A lad I used to work for 2 vice grips on the battery poles of a digger and he take battery out and put it charging about a coupple of times a week, machine not charging. Jesus they were mane the mother used to handle the wages a wicked ould hag and you get your pay packet and you get a cheque some cash and even coins, anything to try and confuse a lad.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,262 ✭✭✭DBK1


    A local fella here at the same job with the vice grips on the battery but it’s only to save him time. He has one battery shared between a loader and tractor and swaps the battery every time to whichever machine he needs!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,624 ✭✭✭✭_Brian


    That takes me right back. I used to deliver coal and fertiliser into a yard in Mullingar and the lad was moving battery between forklift and truck the same, of course forklift had no breaks either. Jez that was early 90’s



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,971 ✭✭✭enricoh


    Used to be at the same craic, n jump leads on revving yokes for a few minutes etc. Lost the plot one day n went off n got a couple of batteries n a dynamo - if I valued my time at a fiver an hour I was repaid after a few months!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,162 ✭✭✭✭Danzy


    The cheque would be in the post but I have lost my cheque book.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,203 ✭✭✭emaherx


    Absolutely, in the grand scheme of things, batteries, alternators and even starters for most of those older machines are not that expensive and well worth the time and effort to save fluting around daily swapping batteries or messing with jump leads.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,011 ✭✭✭50HX


    Lad not too far from me used the net off the bales to string between 2 sticks to create a fence in a gap.........tragic attempt



  • Registered Users Posts: 326 ✭✭RockOrBog


    Neighbour guy here reversed the fertiliser spreader out into the lake and turned it on. Instead of cleaning it he mangled it



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,616 ✭✭✭kk.man


    None of them lads would be any better off for all their idot ideas. Abit of depression going on too.



  • Registered Users Posts: 326 ✭✭RockOrBog


    Same guy reversed the cattle trailer out into the same lake with the back open, mangled the back door.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,431 ✭✭✭funkey_monkey




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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,483 ✭✭✭✭Reggie.




  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    I had the same thought on a lot of posts re the second sentence



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,774 ✭✭✭✭Say my name




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,271 ✭✭✭Packrat


    Sorry to drag up a zombie thread, but my own antics over Christmas made me think of it:

    Training ewe lambs (to eat ration) across Christmas....

    Trailer on the jeep Christmas day drawing around square bales to cattle...

    Rolling ring feeders a hundred yards through coarse ground to get them to said trailer to move them Stephen's day...

    I'm definitely a rooter then...

    “The Party told you to reject the evidence of your eyes and ears. It was their final, most essential command”



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,231 ✭✭✭carrollsno1


    Threw up a clipex fence here one weekend the auld fella was away along by the lane she was grand and fairly christian looking at the time for what resources and time i had at the time. The second strand is undone wrapped around the top and causing it to earth, a reminder everytime i walk down the lane its not my time yet and wont be for a long time yet. Asked where the welder was a while back as i was to do a job for him (fitter by trade) he told me the it was at the polar opposite of where it was and at that it was hidden in behind a few bales even. God this Christmas despite lockdowns lifted and everything else im trying to round up the troops for a tour next winter, tis not worth the hardship hanging around.

    Better living everyone



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,231 ✭✭✭carrollsno1


    Undid/cut/broke it, has it wrapped around some of the posts for a good earth and then back up over the top strand.

    Better living everyone



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,837 ✭✭✭Lime Tree Farm


    @carrollsno1 If you have a volt meter - it would help explain to your Dad what you are trying to achieve.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,231 ✭✭✭carrollsno1


    No talking to him he passes it everyday and its the first thing people see coming into the place so it shows how much of a f#ck is given about the place. I wouldnt be one for minding what anyone else thinks of the place or anything like that but id try have some pride in the place and have things kept right just for the sake of less hardship if nothing else.

    Better living everyone



  • Registered Users Posts: 326 ✭✭RockOrBog


    I live next to a rooter and I always know when he's moving cattle as the shouting starts about 10 mins beforehand. Also lots of roaring when the cattle escape through one of the gates he forgot to close.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,231 ✭✭✭carrollsno1


    Hard to tell really the fella before him held onto everything till the last breath and spent **** all on the place over the years. Two right lads to talk about getting hardship etc over the years but they just put the hardship on themselves and wouldnt mind what they had. There was a nice little ford tractor here twenty years ago which got absolutely dogged and abused over the years whereas if it had to be minded and given some bit of an easy life theres no reason it wouldnt still be the main workhorse here today. Instead pushing 80 years of age he heads out and buys a poor enough brand of tractor brand new only to absolutely dog that too, you couldnt make it up. No door on the tractor as once was enough to replace it instead of just learning to close the door on it, not one light on the dash is working and the handbrake id say was gone after 6 months on it, the front rims had to be replaced after 1500hrs due to the dogging it got and that would have been 1500hrs over ten years its an absolute henhouse and the cab is usedfor storage too. Five years ago the floor of the cattle trailer needed replacing he asked a local fabricator at the time would he do it he couldnt do it at that time and instead of arranging a date to do it he threw a few sheets of marine ply down on the floor instead. I can see the place becoming one of those places where theres a handful of cattle running around and hay cut and thrown in the ditch because you couldnt sell it to anyone for fear youd have a bad winter yourself. Theres already one or two fields going that way nearly as is just cut once a year in september and thats it never mind the fact hes renting land when he cant even manage what he owns.

    Better living everyone



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,954 ✭✭✭farawaygrass


    Jesus that’s fair frustrating on you. I’m sure you were led on through the years with the promise of it all being yours so you put up with stuff.

    you thinking of heading off abroad or sticking around and farming part time?

    I’ve a mother who’s of the same school as your father but thankfully my own father is very helpful and lets me get on with it



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,971 ✭✭✭enricoh


    The oul lad died this year at 74, it's gas looking back at the stupid stuff we used argue about.

    Literally everything- we'd be arguing over what welding rods he got in the coop! I'm glad I was getting on with him when he passed away - I learnt to grit my teeth n the couple of grandkids helped relations. They don't be around forever, make the most of it I learnt this year.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,224 ✭✭✭✭wrangler


    You'd be better to be away from it, the cost now to develop it and stock it would be horrendous, You'd be better building your own career/business.

    I look at my own place here and It's not bad but to get it back to where it was in 2017 , a lad would be better off without it, apart from to sell it, pay the tax and have his home mortgage free



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,231 ✭✭✭carrollsno1


    Ah when the ball started rolling with him taking on the place i was in England at the time and was told thered be a spot for me there when i got back but sure he didnt end up taking over for another three years or so officially and i left home again before that. Luckily enough i havent been plamassed with promises of this that and the other i made it fairly clear when i came back from Australia i wasnt going slobbering and kept the hand in a small bit but had to call quits after a few months as it was getting beyond a joke at that point. Other factors involved as well but id say as soon as i get my trade papers ill be gone. Its a pain in a way as id love to build a little workshop at home but i know for a fact within a week it would be full of old clutter and id be more or less without the use of the shed then and plus if im moving away i dont want to leave a shed behind thats only going to be wrecked. Its the same with doing up a vintage tractor or anything like that i just wouldnt have peace working at it.

    Better living everyone



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,231 ✭✭✭carrollsno1


    I wouldnt mind doing a bit of farming on the side here once i knew i was going to be fairly local for work but i cant gaurantee that either. Youre dead right on the costs of developing the place if i got in the morning id probably hold onto the bit around the yard and lease the rest as there is dairy farmers either side of it, try develop the bit i hold onto and have a system in place which requires less than 1hr per evening most of the year and not having the whole weekend gone with it either.

    Better living everyone



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,954 ✭✭✭farawaygrass


    It’s a trap a lot fall into. You nearly have to be improving the place every couple of years at least, you don’t feel ten years roll around and it’s a big ask then. Problem is it’s hard find the extra cash at times.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,837 ✭✭✭Lime Tree Farm




  • Registered Users Posts: 1,561 ✭✭✭Finty Lemon




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,162 ✭✭✭✭Danzy


    You have the right outlook on it. It's a pain in the hole scenario you have all the same.



  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 3,903 Mod ✭✭✭✭Siamsa Sessions


    I hadn’t a clue that taking land back from what I later realised was a bad tenant and buying 17 store lambs in 2015 would change my life so much and so much for the better. I can’t imagine not farming now.

    But if someone told me then how much work and investment it would take to get to where I am now, then (1) I wouldn’t have believed them, and (2) I don’t think I’d have done it. I’m glad now I didn’t realise that at the time!

    And I consider myself only on the bottom rung of the ladder at this stage. It’s a lifetime of work and investment.

    Trading as Sullivan’s Farm on YouTube



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