The Vaccine

26-11-2020 12:46pm

EyesClosed wrote: »

A conspiracy theory website. Everything from how humans are gonna be made into robots, to pro life "facts", to trump actually won the election and it was rigged. Yea that video is nonsense so.

There's no better authority on this subject than the Doctor featured. It's just him talking -- nobody else.

Watch and make up your own mind

26-11-2020 12:48pm

EyesClosed wrote: »

A conspiracy theory website. Everything from how humans are gonna be made into robots, to pro life "facts", to trump actually won the election and it was rigged. Yea that video is nonsense so.

Here ya go. Now you can feel safe watching it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8bX-wFVBP94

EyesClosed · 26-11-2020 12:51pm

Deleted User wrote: »

Here ya go. Now you can feel safe watching it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8bX-wFVBP94

Yet again....one doctor verses 1000s of doctors...I know where my money is going

King Mob · 26-11-2020 12:54pm

Deleted User wrote: »

There's no better authority on this subject than the Doctor featured. It's just him talking -- nobody else.

Watch and make up your own mind

Does he believe the vaccine is a part of a global conspiracy?
Does he agree with any of your other conspiracy claims?
If not, why do you trust him?
Surely the fact he doesn't agree with you means he's part of the conspiracy?

And it certainly couldn't be conspiracy mongers taking his statement out of context and twisting it's meaning to support stuff he doesn't support...

26-11-2020 1:02pm

EyesClosed wrote: »

Yet again....one doctor verses 1000s of doctors...I know where my money is going

Can you link to anything proving this guy wrong? Would be genuinely interested to watch.

King Mob · 26-11-2020 1:03pm

Deleted User wrote: »

Can you link to anything proving this guy wrong? Would be genuinely interested to watch.

How about link to him agreeing with any of your conspiracy claims?

Dohnjoe · 26-11-2020 1:09pm

Deleted User wrote: »

Can you link to anything proving this guy wrong? Would be genuinely interested to watch.

Provide the timestamps in the video which he provides direct evidence for your theory, and maybe I'll take a look

1. The NWO/Elites are about to take over
2. Supporting and explaining why are leaving markings, e.g. putting skulls on baby clothes
3. Direct evidence that we will receiving implanted microchips specifically to control/track us by an authoritarian power

26-11-2020 1:16pm

I see both KingMob and DohnJoe keep replying to my posts, even though I can't see what they're saying as they are both on ignore. They both know this, too. No doubt they're both talking about things irrelevant to this video/subject: the topic of vaccination and if it's necessary or not.

I've already destroyed both of these guys numerous times in different threads before deciding to block them (as have many others).

They're both on this site 24/7. Far too much time on their hands, engaging in the same tactics and nonsense... Over and over and over... And over again. They've been at it here for years, apparently. Literally

Very odd characters.

I suggest you join the many of us who have already blocked them.

Cheers,
The Good Doctor

eilmaher · 26-11-2020 1:21pm

Dohnjoe wrote: »

Provide the timestamps in the video which he provides direct evidence for your theory, and maybe I'll take a look

1. The NWO/Elites are about to take over
2. Supporting and explaining why are leaving markings, e.g. putting skulls on baby clothes
3. Direct evidence that we will receiving implanted microchips specifically to control/track us by an authoritarian power

https://www.the3rdtruth.com/ even if, presented with truth for many it will be to bitter initially. Nobody needs to spoon feed any information to anyone it's in plain sight in the internet age. Mind you by the day with trillions invested on saving mankind from a honey badger flu that they haven't been successful in last 100 years to protect people against as strains evolve. Free will planet. No higher God than the truth. Plus all our humanity depends on it to help each other on the journey. Many will demand this to get back to normal. Remember their words not mine. Conspiracy CIA coined phrase. Don't be played by their word magicðŸ‘

Dohnjoe · 26-11-2020 1:28pm

eilmaher wrote: »

https://www.the3rdtruth.com/ even if, presented with truth for many it will be to bitter initially. Nobody needs to spoon feed any information to anyone it's in plain sight in the internet age. Mind you by the day with trillions invested on saving mankind from a honey badger flu that they haven't been successful in last 100 years to protect people against as strains evolve. Free will planet. No higher God than the truth. Plus all our humanity depends on it to help each other on the journey. Many will demand this to get back to normal. Remember their words not mine. Conspiracy CIA coined phrase. Don't be played by their word magicðŸ‘

I'd rather not click on that link, but feel free to explain what the conspiracy is

King Mob · 26-11-2020 1:29pm

Deleted User wrote: »

I see both KingMob and DohnJoe keep replying to my posts, even though I can't see what they're saying as they are both on ignore.

Yet, we have found often times this isn't actually the case.
Regardless, you aren't the audience and you would have still ignored the point.

Deleted User wrote: »

I've already destroyed both of these guys numerous times in different threads before deciding to block them (as have many others).

Lol.

Deleted User wrote: »

I suggest you join the many of us who have already blocked them.

Cheers,
The Good Doctor

Yup. Plug your ears guys, that way the mean skeptics can't make you question your beliefs.

26-11-2020 1:37pm

eilmaher wrote: »

https://www.the3rdtruth.com/ even if, presented with truth for many it will be to bitter initially. Nobody needs to spoon feed any information to anyone it's in plain sight in the internet age. Mind you by the day with trillions invested on saving mankind from a honey badger flu that they haven't been successful in last 100 years to protect people against as strains evolve. Free will planet. No higher God than the truth. Plus all our humanity depends on it to help each other on the journey. Many will demand this to get back to normal. Remember their words not mine. Conspiracy CIA coined phrase. Don't be played by their word magicðŸ‘

Wasting your time talking to either of them. They're only interested in mainstream media news. They believe everything they're told by bought off mainstream news, and nothing else outside of that.

Here's the children's clothing line he referenced (I can see it through your quoted reply to him). Fox News called it out for being demonic. As has anyone else who's viewed it. Both of these guys said it was completely normal. Like I said, very odd characters. Perhaps should be looked into :pac:

Anyway here's the vid. Bizzare stuff. Other items not featured here include baby clothing with "New Order" and "Ho" on it. Disgusting.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZQvnHBNYhDM

EyesClosed · 26-11-2020 1:39pm

[Deleted User] wrote: »

I see both KingMob and DohnJoe keep replying to my posts, even though I can't see what they're saying as they are both on ignore. They both know this, too. No doubt they're both talking about things irrelevant to this video/subject: the topic of vaccination and if it's necessary or not.

I've already destroyed both of these guys numerous times in different threads before deciding to block them (as have many others).

They're both on this site 24/7. Far too much time on their hands, engaging in the same tactics and nonsense... Over and over and over... And over again. They've been at it here for years, apparently. Literally Very odd characters.

I suggest you join the many of us who have already blocked them.

Cheers,
The Good Doctor

OK here

Provide the timestamps in the video which he provides direct evidence for your theory, and maybe I'll take a look

1. The NWO/Elites are about to take over
2. Supporting and explaining why are leaving markings, e.g. putting skulls on baby clothes
3. Direct evidence that we will receiving implanted microchips specifically to control/track us by an authoritarian power

I agree with all that... So you can answer or block me as well if you like

26-11-2020 1:50pm

EyesClosed wrote: »

OK here

Provide the timestamps in the video which he provides direct evidence for your theory, and maybe I'll take a look

1. The NWO/Elites are about to take over
2. Supporting and explaining why are leaving markings, e.g. putting skulls on baby clothes
3. Direct evidence that we will receiving implanted microchips specifically to control/track us by an authoritarian power

I agree with all that... So you can answer or block me as well if you like

If you're believing what either of those two guys are telling you.. I suggest you don't.

Already just exposed them above re: children's clothing nonsense. I referred to that as disgusting propaganda that seems to be echoed elsewhere some places through different media etc. Nobody in their right mind would think this is normal. Watch the Fox News video calling it out. These two geniuses (:pac:), however, think it's very normal and somehow turned it into me using it as "evidence" for the "NWO about to take over" (whatever that means). Lol.

Like I said, you'd do well not to listen to them

EyesClosed · 26-11-2020 1:53pm

[Deleted User] wrote: »

If you're believing what either of those two guys are telling you.. I suggest you don't.

Already just exposed them above re: children's clothing nonsense. I referred to that as disgusting propaganda that seems to be echoed elsewhere some places through different media etc. Nobody in their right mind would think this is normal. Watch the Fox News video calling it out. These two geniuses (:pac:), however, think it's very normal and somehow turned it into me using it as "evidence" for the "NWO about to take over" (whatever that means). Lol.

Like I said, you'd do well not to listen to them

I'm not believing anything. I'm trying to get answered to the perfectly responsible questions those two guys have asked you. Why can't you just answer them?

King Mob · 26-11-2020 1:54pm

Deleted User wrote: »

If you're believing what either of those two guys are telling you.. I suggest you don't.

Already just exposed them above re: children's clothing nonsense. I referred to that as disgusting propaganda that seems to be echoed elsewhere some places through different media etc. Nobody in their right mind would think this is normal. Watch the Fox News video calling it out. These two geniuses (:pac:), however, think it's very normal and somehow turned it into me using it as "evidence" for the "NWO about to take over" (whatever that means). Lol.

Like I said, you'd do well not to listen to them

Oh look. Dodged the questions again.

Shock.

ohnonotgmail · 26-11-2020 1:58pm

Deleted User wrote: »

Wasting your time talking to either of them. They're only interested in mainstream media news. They believe everything they're told by bought off mainstream news, and nothing else outside of that.

Here's the children's clothing line he referenced (I can see it through your quoted reply to him). Fox News called it out for being demonic. As has anyone else who's viewed it. Both of these guys said it was completely normal. Like I said, very odd characters. Perhaps should be looked into :pac:

Anyway here's the vid. Bizzare stuff. Other items not featured here include baby clothing with "New Order" and "Ho" on it. Disgusting.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZQvnHBNYhDM

LOL Laura Ingraham on Fox News is really the goto for reasonable opinion.

ohnonotgmail · 26-11-2020 1:59pm

Deleted User wrote: »

If you're believing what either of those two guys are telling you.. I suggest you don't.

Already just exposed them above re: children's clothing nonsense. I referred to that as disgusting propaganda that seems to be echoed elsewhere some places through different media etc. Nobody in their right mind would think this is normal. Watch the Fox News video calling it out. These two geniuses (:pac:), however, think it's very normal and somehow turned it into me using it as "evidence" for the "NWO about to take over" (whatever that means). Lol.

Like I said, you'd do well not to listen to them

so provide the timestamps requested. it should be straightforward for you to do that.

26-11-2020 2:02pm

EyesClosed wrote: »

I'm not believing anything. I'm trying to get answered to the perfectly responsible questions those two guys have asked you. Why can't you just answer them?

I don't know what they're "asking me" as they're both on ignore. I can only see their posts through quotes.

The theory on the topic of this thread is we don't need mass vaccinations. I've been saying it for months. It's, at the very least, a quick crash grab (as attempted back during the Swine Flu with Pandremix).

You don't need mass vaccinations for a virus that has less than 0.1% chance of killing you. Especially not experimental, never before used in humans, not long-term safety tested, RNA vaccines. I'm amazed that some people still can't understand this.

The video by my fellow good doctor proves this nonsense once and for all. You're all being duped.

I'm off now, cheers.

26-11-2020 2:04pm

ohnonotgmail wrote: »

so provide the timestamps requested. it should be straightforward for you to do that.

You seem to be confused. This thread is about the vaccine, and how mass vaccination not required. Please see the video. Anything else is irrelevant to the topic.

Thanks.

ohnonotgmail · 26-11-2020 2:05pm

Deleted User wrote: »

You seem to be confused. This thread is about the vaccine, and how mass vaccination not required. Please see the video. Anything else is irrelevant to the topic.

Thanks.

so you can't answer the question or you don't want to?

King Mob · 26-11-2020 2:07pm

Deleted User wrote: »

The theory on the topic of this thread is we don't need mass vaccinations. I've been saying it for months. It's, at the very least, a quick crash grab (as attempted back during the Swine Flu with Pandremix).

...

The video by my fellow good doctor proves this nonsense once and for all. You're all being duped.

You were asked for the evidence that he agrees with the above or any of your other conspiracy beliefs.

You very clearly can't do that.
That's because he most likely doesn't believe any of your nonsense.

Also I like how you're pretending to be a doctor now.

EyesClosed · 26-11-2020 2:09pm

[Deleted User] wrote: »

I don't know what they're "asking me" as they're both on ignore. I can only see their posts through quotes.

The theory on the topic of this thread is we don't need mass vaccinations. I've been saying it for months. It's, at the very least, a quick crash grab (as attempted back during the Swine Flu with Pandremix).

You don't need mass vaccinations for a virus that has less than 0.1% chance of killing you. Especially not experimental, never before used in humans, not long-term safety tested, RNA vaccines. I'm amazed that some people still can't understand this.

The video by my fellow good doctor proves this nonsense once and for all. You're all being duped.

I'm off now, cheers.

I asked you the questions in my last post... You can read them there... You ignored them... Why?

26-11-2020 2:20pm

EyesClosed wrote: »

I asked you the questions in my last post... You can read them there... You ignored them... Why?

Those three questions have nothing to do with the topic on hand, and also nothing to do with me. They were asked by one of the other guys to bring the vaccine thread off topic. Ask them what they're taking about in a different thread. Conspiracy here is you're being sold/coerced into a vaccine you don't need. Not hard to understand.

EyesClosed.... open 'em up before asking me questions again, please

King Mob · 26-11-2020 2:25pm

Deleted User wrote: »

Those three questions have nothing to do with the topic on hand, and also nothing to do with me. They were asked by one of the other guys to bring the vaccine thread off topic. Ask them what they're taking about in a different thread. Conspiracy here is you're being sold/coerced into a vaccine you don't need. Not hard to understand.

EyesClosed.... open 'em up before asking me questions again, please

You're dodging again.

You were asked you point out where the Doctor in your video agrees with any of your claims.
You can't do this because he doesn't agree with any of your claims.
You are misrepresenting him and his position.
You know this and can't defend it, hence you are dodging and deflecting.

This is par for the course with conspiracy theorists.

Dohnjoe · 26-11-2020 2:31pm

Odd that those who keep claiming this is just like "the flu" seem to be so opposed to there being a jab for it.

Fodla · 26-11-2020 2:34pm

Dohnjoe wrote: »

Odd that those who keep claiming this is just like "the flu" seem to be so opposed to there being a jab for it.

Actually on the flu, Dr Vernon Coleman recently pointed out that the flu has vanished from Australia and that the exact same number of people who die from the flu every year there have died from, or with, COVID-19. He found it suspicious.

King Mob · 26-11-2020 2:36pm

Fodla wrote: »

Actually on the flu, Dr Vernon Coleman recently pointed out that the flu has vanished from Australia and that the exact same number of people who die from the flu every year there have died from, or with, COVID-19. He found it suspicious.

None of this is true.
You don't even bother trying to provide any support for this.

You are just straight out lying at this stage.

Why are you lying?
Why do you guys have to be so abjectly dishonest about every part of your beliefs?

Dohnjoe · 26-11-2020 2:58pm

Fodla wrote: »

Actually on the flu, Dr Vernon Coleman recently pointed out that the flu has vanished from Australia and that the exact same number of people who die from the flu every year there have died from, or with, COVID-19. He found it suspicious.

Strange, I am looking at a site which tracks flu cases in Australia, took 10 seconds to find in google. In fact there are many sites confirming this. If you didn't check, why not?

Timberrrrrrrr · 26-11-2020 2:59pm

Fodla wrote: »

Actually on the flu, Dr Vernon Coleman recently pointed out that the flu has vanished from Australia and that the exact same number of people who die from the flu every year there have died from, or with, COVID-19. He found it suspicious.

Someone should tell the Australian people that, seems they keep getting the flu.

https://www.sonichealthplus.com.au/health-hub/flu/item/2019-flu-season-2nd-worst-on-record

The Australian Department of Health’s 2019 Influenza Season summary affirmed what most people already knew: last year we endured very high levels of activity compared to previous seasons1 and those levels were high from earlier in the year – even during the summer months. This culminated in a total of 310,011 laboratory-confirmed flu notifications by the beginning of December1. On a more serious note, by October 6 more than 800 influenza-associated deaths had been officially recorded, the majority of these were due to influenza A (96%, n=782) and the ages ranged from under 12 months of age to 102 years.

Now seeing as you are happy to post blatant lies, why should we take anything else you post seriously?

Fodla · 26-11-2020 3:09pm

Timberrrrrrrr wrote: »

Someone should tell the Australian people that, seems they keep getting the flu.

https://www.sonichealthplus.com.au/health-hub/flu/item/2019-flu-season-2nd-worst-on-record

Now seeing as you are happy to post blatant lies, why should we take anything else you post seriously?

I said that Dr Coleman said it had vanished. I didn't say it had.

And that article is about the 2019 flu season.

Timberrrrrrrr · 26-11-2020 3:14pm

Fodla wrote: »

I said that Dr Coleman said it had vanished. I didn't say it had.

And that article is about the 2019 flu season.

The reason there have been a lot fewer flu deaths this year is due to lockdown/social distancing, and it hasn't disappeared.

Not as many people mingling and so less transmission

https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/amp.abc.net.au/article/12480190

ABC News SHARE

Flu deaths drop in Australia as coronavirus restrictions save hundreds of lives

By medical reporter Sophie Scott and the Specialist Reporting Team's Celina Edmonds

Posted WedWednesday 22 JulJuly 2020 at 6:58pm, updated ThuThursday 23 JulJuly 2020 at 10:57am

WATCH

Duration: 2 minutes 4 seconds2m 4s

The coronavirus pandemic has plunged Australia into a national public health emergency, but doctors say there's been a massive drop in flu cases and flu deaths.

Hundreds of Australian flu deaths have been avoided because of the lockdown measures used to prevent the spread of COVID-19, experts say.

Key points:Australia has not recorded any flu deaths since April, with only 36 deaths recorded this year compared to 430 in the same period last yearExperts say school closures, physical distancing, hand hygiene and border closures all played a part in reducing the number of flu casesThere was also an uptick in influenza vaccinations this year, with 2 million more doses being administered

The latest national statistics, obtained by the ABC, reveal from January to June 2020, there were just 36 deaths from the flu.

That compares to 430 deaths in the same period for 2019.

Ian Barr, deputy director of the World Health Organization Collaborating Centre for Reference and Research on Influenza, said it was "great news" as influenza was very hard to combat.

"I think if we could get this sort of effect every year, we'd be very happy," Professor Barr said.

"You have to do exceptional things like having very, very high vaccination rates or doing something dramatic like [what is] currently happening with a severe lockdown type of approach."

The flu season was particularly severe last year, meaning the drop in influenza deaths from 2019 to 2020 is even more pronounced.

Australian Medical Association NSW vice-president Andrew Zuschmann said this year doctors were seeing much lower community rates of influenza infection.

"What it's telling us is that many of the measures that are working to contain the spread of COVID-19 within the community are also very effective at reducing transmission of influenza,"

Fodla · 26-11-2020 3:18pm

Timberrrrrrrr wrote: »

The reason there have been a lot fewer flu deaths this year is due to lockdown/social distancing, and it hasn't disappeared.

Not as many people mingling and so less transmission

https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/amp.abc.net.au/article/12480190

I'm just saying what Dr Coleman said. He could be way off for all I know.

I note Mr Barr floated the idea of a lockdown for the flu. I did say that a dangerous precedent had been set. A future of permanent lockdowns may be in store for us.

Timberrrrrrrr · 26-11-2020 3:21pm

Fodla wrote: »

I'm just saying what Dr Coleman said. He could be way off for all I know.

I note Mr Barr floated the idea of a lockdown for the flu. I did say that a dangerous precedent had been set. A future of permanent lockdowns may be in store for us.

So you don't know wether its a lie or not but you have no issue with repeating the lie instead of doing a simple search to see if it's true or not?

Also, can you explain what a "permanent lockdown" is and when you have been under one?

PMBC · 26-11-2020 3:24pm

harrylittle wrote: »

its worth repeating that again ....

"Their wicked plans also include a new global vaccination which will create disease all over the world to cause suffering on a scale never seen before.

Avoid any such sudden global vaccination announced for it will kill you."

Would it not be easier for "them" to let the virus kill us than to vaccinate us and infect us with a disease to kill us?

Dohnjoe · 26-11-2020 3:32pm

Fodla wrote: »

I said that Dr Coleman said it had vanished. I didn't say it had.

And that article is about the 2019 flu season.

So now you know he is making an absurd claim, why would you bother to believe him on anything else?

Fodla · 26-11-2020 3:40pm

Dohnjoe wrote: »

So now you know he is making an absurd claim, why would you bother to believe him on anything else?

But I don't know. I'm going to look into it.

King Mob · 26-11-2020 3:44pm

Fodla wrote: »

But I don't know. I'm going to look into it.

No you aren't.

You keep doing this silly innocent act.
You make a ridiculous claim, then when challenged on it you back track and act like a child who made a mistake then didn't understand.

We also know that you aren't going to look into it as you don't do basic research before posting crap and you don't come back to the claims you've abbandoned.

This is all very dishonest behavour.
Why do you do this if you theories are true?

Dohnjoe · 26-11-2020 3:47pm

Fodla wrote: »

But I don't know. I'm going to look into it.

It takes 10 seconds, google "Australia flu cases 2019". What is there "not to know" about this?

Fodla · 26-11-2020 3:49pm

Dohnjoe wrote: »

It takes 10 seconds, google "Australia flu cases 2019". What is there "not to know" about this?

He was talking about this year. He said that the flu has vanished this year in Australia.

namloc1980 · 26-11-2020 3:51pm

Fodla wrote: »

He was talking about this year. He said that the flu has vanished this year in Australia.

And you believe that? An endemic disease has simply vanished from Australia. What next, the common cold has disappeared also?

Timberrrrrrrr · 26-11-2020 3:51pm

Fodla wrote: »

He was talking about this year. He said that the flu has vanished this year in Australia.

And I proved that wrong with a 10 second search that you dont seem to be able to do.

Dohnjoe · 26-11-2020 3:57pm

Fodla wrote: »

Dr Vernon Coleman

Hold on a second

This Dr Vernon Coleman?

Vernon Coleman is an English blogger, novelist, self-published author and conspiracy theorist who writes on topics related to human health, politics and animal issues. Coleman's medical health claims have been widely discredited or described as pseudoscientific

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vernon_Coleman

Ted_YNWA · 26-11-2020 5:17pm

Deleted User wrote: »

I see both KingMob and DohnJoe keep replying to my posts, even though I can't see what they're saying as they are both on ignore. They both know this, too. No doubt they're both talking about things irrelevant to this video/subject: the topic of vaccination and if it's necessary or not.

I've already destroyed both of these guys numerous times in different threads before deciding to block them (as have many others).

They're both on this site 24/7. Far too much time on their hands, engaging in the same tactics and nonsense... Over and over and over... And over again. They've been at it here for years, apparently. Literally Very odd characters.

I suggest you join the many of us who have already blocked them.

Cheers,
The Good Doctor

Deleted User wrote: »

If you're believing what either of those two guys are telling you.. I suggest you don't.

Already just exposed them above re: children's clothing nonsense. I referred to that as disgusting propaganda that seems to be echoed elsewhere some places through different media etc. Nobody in their right mind would think this is normal. Watch the Fox News video calling it out. These two geniuses (:pac:), however, think it's very normal and somehow turned it into me using it as "evidence" for the "NWO about to take over" (whatever that means). Lol.

Like I said, you'd do well not to listen to them

Deleted User wrote: »

I don't know what they're "asking me" as they're both on ignore. I can only see their posts through quotes.

The theory on the topic of this thread is we don't need mass vaccinations. I've been saying it for months. It's, at the very least, a quick crash grab (as attempted back during the Swine Flu with Pandremix).

You don't need mass vaccinations for a virus that has less than 0.1% chance of killing you. Especially not experimental, never before used in humans, not long-term safety tested, RNA vaccines. I'm amazed that some people still can't understand this.

The video by my fellow good doctor proves this nonsense once and for all. You're all being duped.

I'm off now, cheers.

If you post one more time that you have "those guys" on ignore, it will be your last.

Also can you at least acknowledge the questions posed to you.

PMBC · 26-11-2020 5:41pm

jelem wrote: »

ah lets go back many years and i raise the band "moody blues"
no time to take out lp to check but the track i recall before
"lovely to see you again my friend, walk along with me to the next bend",
was a major part instrumental which contained (they may have been conspiirtory or drugs)
the lyrics " miles and miles of files with your magnetic ink" data storage at that time was
magnetic tape. this a fore warning of all today nsa\cia\fbi\usa government\all big tech\mobile phone
and never ending list of and including illegal activity of spying and harvesting data of citizens
to hold power.
So no evidence available at that time but we know now. and as for moody blues
"conspiracy theorists" but a lot of good music and lyrics ---
walking along to next bend also went on to state talk about "empires falling back to sand"
which today is the current state of usa.

I remember that lp well. There was also on a song on it called 2Thinking is the best way to travel" and I quote
And you can fly, high as a kite if you want to
Faster than light if you want to
Speeding through the Universe
Thinking is the best way to travel

What would you make of that.. faster than light... they obviously discovered some way to do that, defying Einstein so that their mass did not increase infinitely

Like a lot of songs now and then, the lyrics didnt make sense except in a kind of vague way. I dont think they were predicting the future

rtron · 01-12-2020 5:53pm

The Labour leader is asking the tough questions about the Vaccinnes, passports and non vaccinated people.
https://www.rte.ie/news/coronavirus/2020/1201/1181633-coronavirus-vaccine/

GT89 · 03-12-2020 4:23pm

Here's how I think the roll out of the mandatory vaccine will be. First most countries will not actually say to citizens it is mandatory although there may be some that will and it won't be overnight. Why I am saying it will be mandatory but not required by law basically you will be coerced into taking it as you won't be able to function in society without taking the vaccine.

Firstly I believe it will be mandatory to be vaccinated in order to receive non emmergency healthcare on public healthcare systems that will be the start it will be under the guise of keeping covid out of hospitals but since not everyone is going to be using healthcare same with nursing home residents and vistors. They won't be able to refuse someone in a+e who had a heart attack for not being vaccinated at first but if you needed to go in for surgery it will no vaccine no surgery. But since not everyone will require hospital treatment particularly the young and the healthy not everyone will bother unless they need to go in to hospital for a procedure.

Then countries and arlines will start to require vaccine for travel and entry to a country. At this point most people will get it but some will not and chose to stay in their country of residence. There may be some countries that won't require and these places may see a short term boom in tourism from people not willing to het the vaccine provided the airlines flying there don't require their passengers to vaccinated. Of course countries may refuse to allow planes to land unless the airline requires vaccinations for travel.

Then once it is required for international travel then governements will put in mandates that in order to attend events like concerts and football matches but since again some will forgo going to these events some people will once again not be vaccinated. At this stage vaccination rates will probably be around 90% but still not good enough according to some people just 90% mask compliance is not good enough for some.

Then it will be mandatory on public transport, in shops, bars and restaurants. That's when people won't have much choice at all but to take the vaccine including the most vocal opponents of vaccines.

Caraibh · 03-12-2020 4:30pm

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Here's how I think the roll out of the mandatory vaccine will be. First most countries will not actually say to citizens it is mandatory although there may be some that will and it won't be overnight. Why I am saying it will be mandatory but not required by law basically you will be coerced into taking it as you won't be able to function in society without taking the vaccine.

Firstly I believe it will be mandatory to be vaccinated in order to receive non emmergency healthcare on public healthcare systems that will be the start it will be under the guise of keeping covid out of hospitals but since not everyone is going to be using healthcare same with nursing home residents and vistors. They won't be able to refuse someone in a+e who had a heart attack for not being vaccinated at first but if you needed to go in for surgery it will no vaccine no surgery. But since not everyone will require hospital treatment particularly the young and the healthy not everyone will bother unless they need to go in to hospital for a procedure.

Then countries and arlines will start to require vaccine for travel and entry to a country. At this point most people will get it but some will not and chose to stay in their country of residence. There may be some countries that won't require and these places may see a short term boom in tourism from people not willing to het the vaccine provided the airlines flying there don't require their passengers to vaccinated. Of course countries may refuse to allow planes to land unless the airline requires vaccinations for travel.

Then once it is required for international travel then governements will put in mandates that in order to attend events like concerts and football matches but since again some will forgo going to these events some people will once again not be vaccinated. At this stage vaccination rates will probably be around 90% but still not good enough according to some people just 90% mask compliance is not good enough for some.

Then it will be mandatory on public transport, in shops, bars and restaurants. That's when people won't have much choice at all but to take the vaccine including the most vocal opponents of vaccines.

I agree 100%. And the vaccine won't be enough. Health Passport Ireland will also be required. The video about Health Passport Ireland on YouTube gives the game away. Watch the bit at the end about the various places it says the health passport could be used for. It's basically every single place in the country (hospitals, restaurants, shops, concert halls, airplanes etc).

King Mob · 03-12-2020 4:34pm

Caraibh wrote: »

I agree 100%. And the vaccine won't be enough. Health Passport Ireland will also be required. The video about Health Passport Ireland on YouTube gives the game away. Watch the bit at the end about the various places it says the health passport could be used for. It's basically every single place in the country (hospitals, restaurants, shops, concert halls, airplanes etc).

Yup. Just like what happened with swine flu when you guys were claiming the same stuff then too...

Caraibh · 03-12-2020 4:43pm

King Mob wrote: »

Yup. Just like what happened with swine flu when you guys were claiming the same stuff then too...

Was Health Passport Ireland carrying out trials during the swine flu pandemic?

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