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28-06-2020 8:20am

I’ve heard the word before but I’d probably have had to look it up if I’d wanted to be certain.

PhilOssophy · 28-06-2020 8:34am

One More Toy wrote: »

Hmm I'll have to ask him is it really worthwhile

And yeah it took 12 years of hard saving. Buying the cheapest of everything, doing it the hard way scrimping and saving. Not following the herd. Dressing modestly. I could go on and on but it's off topic

Fair play, wish I had done that myself!

Mickiemcfist wrote: »

Just to back up PhilOssophy, whatever your mate does in banking, it ain't in giving good consumer advice. They check the register to see if you've been UNABLE to pay back a loan in the last 5 years. Being able to manage your finances without debt & build up savings is categorically the best way to prove you're able to repay a loan/mortgage.

However dont take either of our word for it, genuinely contact the banks mortgage department & ask, they wont tell you to take out a loan you don't need.

Yeah that is it, they will only raise an issue if you have missed a payment. If OP were really worried, I'd talk to a mortgage broker but I know I and my circle of friends, none of which would be borrowers for small things, and not 1 of us had any problem getting a mortgage. Family experience the same. No borrowers, no problem.

Anyway, this thread is about money waste so we are probably digressing! We'll let the thread get back to the real juice.

SEPT 23 1989 · 28-06-2020 8:42am

That kettle would go really well with my Paul Costello wooden board

28-06-2020 8:56am

I think we should be as wary of outlandish examples of excess privilege as we normally are of the social-welfare-bashing threads.

HAVING SAID THAT, there were two brothers in UCD who lived in a nearby Dublin suburb, whose mother saved up their children's allowance to provide them with a 'party house' in Merville (onsite accommodation) for their college years. I went there just once, and they were exactly the kind of arseholes that you'd expect.

Pinch Flat · 28-06-2020 10:02am

SEPT 23 1989 wrote: »

That kettle would go really well with my Paul Costello wooden board

Hah yeah remember those

https://www.broadsheet.ie/2016/05/24/how-much-133/

Lewis_Benson · 28-06-2020 10:10am

Had to look this up, they are still mad money!!
I worked in a DIY chain store around 2000 to 2004,i remember these bins and thinking who the **** pays that much for a rubbish bin.

We sold loads of them

https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B00PUDA6OC/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_i_F2f-EbKM5YB9A

Sultan of Bling · 28-06-2020 10:31am

You'll have to excuse my peasant ignorance but WTF does the Paul costello wooden board do?

One More Toy · 28-06-2020 10:40am

Sultan of Bling wrote: »

You'll have to excuse my peasant ignorance but WTF does the Paul costello wooden board do?

What doesn't it do

pgj2015 · 28-06-2020 10:41am

Sultan of Bling wrote: »

You'll have to excuse my peasant ignorance but WTF does the Paul costello wooden board do?

you can use it as a surfboard and ironing board.

Sultan of Bling · 28-06-2020 10:59am

One More Toy wrote:

What doesn't it do

pgj2015 wrote:

you can use it as a surfboard and ironing board.

Ah sure I'll get one anyway. Just in case one of the neighbours calls around.

Ush1 · 28-06-2020 11:07am

Wildly Boaring wrote: »

Harvey Norman this week!!

I actually really like that.

PhilOssophy · 28-06-2020 12:11pm

Sultan of Bling wrote: »

Ah sure I'll get one anyway. Just in case one of the neighbours calls around.

Yeah, that'll impress them for sure. You don't want to look like some working class peasant with an ordinary chopping board like.....

Sultan of Bling · 28-06-2020 12:38pm

PhilOssophy wrote:

Yeah, that'll impress them for sure. You don't want to look like some working class peasant with an ordinary chopping board like.....

That reminds me, i better get rid of the aldi carrier bags.

Littlehorny · 28-06-2020 12:46pm

Whenever I hear the words Celtic Tiger. The one thing that flashes straight away through my mind is - tossers who bought jet skis!

pgj2015 · 28-06-2020 12:52pm

Littlehorny wrote: »

Whenever I hear the words Celtic Tiger. The one thing that flashes straight away through my mind is - tossers who bought jet skis!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=trYA5fWZxS0

hoodie6029 · 28-06-2020 4:33pm

One more.

People queuing for days to buy a new house in Navan in the early 2000's. Some of the houses being built then used cavity block construction so they were freezing cold and a bugger to retrofit insulation too.

Still waters · 28-06-2020 4:54pm

I was plastering during the Celtic tiger years, the money was mental, i remember talking to other tradesmen and agreeing that it could never last, strange how the pricks at the top hadn't a clue and the normal joe soap knew it couldn't last

On the plus side the money was hugely rewarding for doing a shìt job like plastering

Munstergirl854 · 28-06-2020 5:14pm

Fianna Fail riding the country bareback.Bertie wanting a big **** off stadium in his name.Tribunals.Half the working class pop. worked in either construction or a local factory and were on great money,if you actually had a white collar job you were insufferable with notions.The popularity of Peter Marks.The staple going out outfit of a snazzy sequin top and jeans for women and the lacoste/tommy hilfiger t-shirt for men.The faux outrage over the wes discos and the subsequent d4 stereotype.Brown Thomas.Liam Lawlor dead in a car crash with a "prostitute" who turned out to be an interpreter.The Sunday News of the World exposees that I actually still miss.Red Toyota Celicas.The menswear shops booming with business.Vodka and redbull.
I remember one of my teachers casually announcing Bertie Ahern had resigned one day in school...little did we know in our youth the arse was about to fall out of the economy.

I think as a collective nation we don't do "wealth" well.Many a good marriage was probably squandered too because a husband/wife wanted to drown in drink and affairs at the weekend.As for the ultra wealthy like the O'Donnells in Gorse Lodge..they burned their arse in the Celtic Tiger and have to sit on the blisters today.

razorblunt · 28-06-2020 6:41pm

Munstergirl854 wrote: »

Fianna Fail riding the country bareback.Bertie wanting a big **** off stadium in his name.Tribunals.Half the working class pop. worked in either construction or a local factory and were on great money,if you actually had a white collar job you were insufferable with notions.The popularity of Peter Marks.The staple going out outfit of a snazzy sequin top and jeans for women and the lacoste/tommy hilfiger t-shirt for men.The faux outrage over the wes discos and the subsequent d4 stereotype.Brown Thomas.Liam Lawlor dead in a car crash with a "prostitute" who turned out to be an interpreter.The Sunday News of the World exposees that I actually still miss.Red Toyota Celicas.The menswear shops booming with business.Vodka and redbull.
I remember one of my teachers casually announcing Bertie Ahern had resigned one day in school...little did we know in our youth the arse was about to fall out of the economy.

I think as a collective nation we don't do "wealth" well.Many a good marriage was probably squandered too because a husband/wife wanted to drown in drink and affairs at the weekend.As for the ultra wealthy like the O'Donnells in Gorse Lodge..they burned their arse in the Celtic Tiger and have to sit on the blisters today.

Bertie Aherne’s biggest fúck you to the people and most insulting thing he’s ever done is say that not building the Bertie Bowl is his biggest regret of his time in office. Meanwhile lads were driving their cars into rivers as a way out of their debt. How he got away with that is beyond me.

PhilOssophy · 28-06-2020 6:56pm

Lets not get too deep on the blame, etc. I have no time for Bertie either but its for another thread, the thread is a bit of craic about the insanity of an era most of us hope is never revisited in all honesty.
Keep it light-hearted. It has been 42 pages of hilarious stuff.

Randy Archer · 28-06-2020 6:59pm

Munstergirl854 wrote: »

Fianna Fail riding the country bareback.Bertie wanting a big **** off stadium in his name.Tribunals.Half the working class pop. worked in either construction or a local factory and were on great money,if you actually had a white collar job you were insufferable with notions.The popularity of Peter Marks.The staple going out outfit of a snazzy sequin top and jeans for women and the lacoste/tommy hilfiger t-shirt for men.The faux outrage over the wes discos and the subsequent d4 stereotype.Brown Thomas.Liam Lawlor dead in a car crash with a "prostitute" who turned out to be an interpreter.The Sunday News of the World exposees that I actually still miss.Red Toyota Celicas.The menswear shops booming with business.Vodka and redbull.
I remember one of my teachers casually announcing Bertie Ahern had resigned one day in school...little did we know in our youth the arse was about to fall out of the economy.

I think as a collective nation we don't do "wealth" well.Many a good marriage was probably squandered too because a husband/wife wanted to drown in drink and affairs at the weekend.As for the ultra wealthy like the O'Donnells in Gorse Lodge..they burned their arse in the Celtic Tiger and have to sit on the blisters today.

White collar had notions ?

More like the “working class” riff raff and their notions of demanding huge wages for jobs a monkey or a foreigner could do . Plenty of so called working class had notions of big tacky houses and weddings and a couple of tacky classless holidays to Spain along the English . Larger larger larger . They didn’t have a pot to piss in and zero savings

Oh we laughed even then, listening to thick as **** gob****es boasting about good money now and how school n college was a waste .fast as forward a few years

Spare us the class warfare rubbish , we have nothing like the working class - middle class divide that the Brits have

Sultan of Bling · 28-06-2020 7:00pm

PhilOssophy wrote:

Lets not get too deep on the blame, etc. I have no time for Bertie either but its for another thread, the thread is a bit of craic about the insanity of an era most of us hope is never revisited in all honesty. Keep it light-hearted. It has been 42 pages of hilarious stuff.

Agree. It's one of the most enjoyable threads I have read in a long time.

weldoninhio · 28-06-2020 7:01pm

Wildly Boaring wrote: »

Harvey Norman this week!!

Designer stuff is expensive. Recession or mid-bubble. What’s the point of posting this in a thread about the early 2000s??

Zebra3 · 28-06-2020 7:02pm

Randy Archer wrote: »

More like the “working class” riff raff and their notions of demanding huge wages for jobs a monkey or a foreigner could do

Classy. :rolleyes:

Sultan of Bling · 28-06-2020 7:04pm

Another thing I remember from that era was the two pillars built outside the front door of people's terraced houses and the horses on the pillars of the front garden walls.

Leg End Reject · 28-06-2020 7:06pm

Sultan of Bling wrote: »

Another thing I remember from that era was the two pillars built outside the front door of people's terraced houses and the horses on the pillars of the front garden walls.

Travellers?

Sultan of Bling · 28-06-2020 7:10pm

Leg End Reject wrote:

Travellers?

No.

A few people were doing it on the road I lived on at the time that were not part of that community.

ChikiChiki · 28-06-2020 7:16pm

Munstergirl854 wrote: »

Fianna Fail riding the country bareback.Bertie wanting a big **** off stadium in his name.Tribunals.Half the working class pop. worked in either construction or a local factory and were on great money,if you actually had a white collar job you were insufferable with notions.The popularity of Peter Marks.The staple going out outfit of a snazzy sequin top and jeans for women and the lacoste/tommy hilfiger t-shirt for men.The faux outrage over the wes discos and the subsequent d4 stereotype.Brown Thomas.Liam Lawlor dead in a car crash with a "prostitute" who turned out to be an interpreter.The Sunday News of the World exposees that I actually still miss.Red Toyota Celicas.The menswear shops booming with business.Vodka and redbull.
I remember one of my teachers casually announcing Bertie Ahern had resigned one day in school...little did we know in our youth the arse was about to fall out of the economy.

I think as a collective nation we don't do "wealth" well.Many a good marriage was probably squandered too because a husband/wife wanted to drown in drink and affairs at the weekend.As for the ultra wealthy like the O'Donnells in Gorse Lodge..they burned their arse in the Celtic Tiger and have to sit on the blisters today.

Agree, shocked enough at seeing a lot of people put themselves into insane levels of personal debt the last few years. I don't think we have learned the lessons properly.

Randy Archer · 28-06-2020 7:18pm

Zebra3 wrote: »

Classy. :rolleyes:

It’s the truth . Anyway, what would the wurkin class and the class warriors know about “classy”

You stay classy , brah

razorblunt · 28-06-2020 7:50pm

PhilOssophy wrote: »

Lets not get too deep on the blame, etc. I have no time for Bertie either but its for another thread, the thread is a bit of craic about the insanity of an era most of us hope is never revisited in all honesty.
Keep it light-hearted. It has been 42 pages of hilarious stuff.

Fair point.

Zebra3 · 28-06-2020 8:15pm

Randy Archer wrote: »

It’s the truth . Anyway, what would the wurkin class and the class warriors know about “classy”

You stay classy , brah

I've more class than to lump monkey and foreigner in together the way you did.

completedit · 28-06-2020 8:54pm

Reading the Pope's children here after going through this thread. Indulgence and arrogance is a horrible mix and seems there was plenty of it during the celtic tiger. We were like the teenager from a strict family who goes on the tear once they get a bit of freedom *

Not a Dave McWilliam's analogy

dublinman1990 · 29-06-2020 4:17am

I have seen a few teslas & Toyota hybrid jeeps going around south Dublin even in the times that we live in now when we are still battling Covid. I don't think a good lot of Irish people have really learned their lessons this time round regarding how to have money saved for a rainy day when you really really needed it. I would still think that the large remnants of greed are still alive & well in this country with people being more arrogant for having it on them while not knowing the consequences of losing more of it later on when **** hits the fan once again.

PhilOssophy · 29-06-2020 7:45am

There is and will always be people who can't manage money.....

Claw Hammer · 29-06-2020 10:09am

PhilOssophy wrote: »

There is and will always be people who can't manage money.....

The real problem was not people not managing money, it was their behaviour when they had it. They were far too ostentatious, lacking discretion and vulgar.

talla10 · 29-06-2020 10:17am

Claw Hammer wrote: »

The real problem was not people not managing money, it was their behaviour when they had it. They were far too ostentatious, lacking discretion and vulgar.

No matter how much money people have you can't buy class.

The only real surprise in hindsight was that it lasted as long as it did

Claw Hammer · 29-06-2020 10:20am

talla10 wrote: »

No matter how much money people have you can't buy class.

They did buy class. Kids sent walking up and down the housing in the private school uniforms to make sure the neighbours knew where they were going to school.

PhilOssophy · 29-06-2020 10:33am

Claw Hammer wrote: »

They did buy class. Kids sent walking up and down the housing in the private school uniforms to make sure the neighbours knew where they were going to school.

Is that your understanding of class? The thing about class and wealth is classy people don't show their wealth.

Claw Hammer · 29-06-2020 10:53am

PhilOssophy wrote: »

Is that your understanding of class? The thing about class and wealth is classy people don't show their wealth.

I didn't say it was my understanding, I am saying that is what I saw during the CT.

hoodie6029 · 29-06-2020 11:03am

Sweet jesus, take your class warfare to another thread. This was great reading before that rubbish started.

SchrodingersCat · 29-06-2020 11:06am

Il try and bring the thread back on track.

I tipped around as a laborer on the building sites during the boom. Every summer I would spend a few months sweeping here, tidying there, tending to the brickies. The money was ridiculous. The couple of months that I spent on the sites would pay for the rest of my year in college. The fact that I was hired told you that they were stuck for anyone to work on the sites. I knew lads who would come in with half the day already gone stinking of drink and not get fired because there was no one to replace them. There were a few sad stories too, I knew of one lad who would spend most of his cheque on the horses down in the bookies.

The most ridiculous Celtic Tiger thing was when our company messed up the calculation of our overtime. For about two months, instead of getting paid time-and-a-half for the first few hours of overtime, we were getting paid double-time (2x pay). It was the same for double time. I couldnt get a lift home in the evenings until late, so I used to have a nice quiet time holding a brush walking around the site after everyone else had gone home. Needless to say this all changed when everyone started working overtime and coming in on Saturdays too.

This kept going until this stupid eejit in our group complained that he didnt get paid for an hour of overtime that he had worked. He whined to all of us, but when we wouldnt give him the time of day he decided to bring it up with the boss. He showed him the pay check. The boss asked him why he was getting double time when it was supposed to be time and a half. He said "sure everyone is getting that". :mad:
We were ragin at him after that, nearly as much as the boss was to the wife who did the accounts. He had to leave the site after a week or so from the threats.

The fact that the subcontractor could afford them wages and not even notice showed you how much money was in that industry at that time.

Claw Hammer · 29-06-2020 11:08am

SchrodingersCat wrote: »

This kept going until this stupid eejit in our group complained that he didnt get paid for an hour of overtime that he had worked. He whined to all of us, but when we wouldnt give him the time of day he decided to bring it up with the boss. He showed him the pay check. The boss asked him why he was getting double time when it was supposed to be time and a half. He said "sure everyone is getting that". :mad:
We were ragin at him after that, nearly as much as the boss was to the wife who did the accounts. He had to leave the site after a week or so from the threats.

The fact that the subcontractor could afford them wages and not even notice showed you how much money was in that industry at that time.

Why didn't ye all chip in 50c and shut the gob****e up? You were the bigger eejits.

Abel Ruiz · 29-06-2020 11:15am

A Tyrant Named Miltiades! wrote: »

I think we should be as wary of outlandish examples of excess privilege as we normally are of the social-welfare-bashing threads.

Right on dude. Right on!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Necro · 29-06-2020 11:16am

Mod:

Randy Archer do not post in this thread again.

Rest of you back on topic, any of the class nonsense and further sanctions will be forthcoming

Abel Ruiz · 29-06-2020 11:30am

John_Rambo wrote: »

He's been succeeding in failure for a long time now, he wrote a Eurovision song that came last, he was an unsuccessful Independent candidate, he refused to use email when it came out (what a pro), he supported the invasion of Iraq in the belief that there were weapons of mass destruction, opposed gay marriage, claimed there's no such thing as depression, blamed catholic clerical child abuse on gay people and was imprisoned because he didn't pay a parking fine because he felt he'd returned to his car only shortly after the grace period.

And people still employ him.

Thats not quite true. He questioned if some people were saying they were depressed when they were sad.
I listened to a great interview on Eamon Dunphy's The Stand. Very interesting.
And you get to see how he went bananas.
And then a few months after that interview he was on with Eamon again and lost his mind and ran out, gas stuff altogether!

Leg End Reject · 29-06-2020 11:37am

The Celtic Tiger for me - yummy mummies in SUVs, those in Range Rovers thinking they were superior, anyone working in construction laughing at those who didn't and saying they earned more, decking, getting on the property ladder, moving from a semi d to a detached, people dressed head to toe in designer clothes with matching sunglasses, you were told it was Farrow and Ball paint, Denby crockery became essential for many, jet skis, quad bikes, shopping trips to New York, obscure Irish names and double-barrelled surnames became popular, people proudly stating they were middle class, many suddenly became avid rugby fans, getting someone in to clean your house and making sure everyone knew, Mc mansions sprung up everywhere and pubs, clubs and restaurants were packed.

SchrodingersCat · 29-06-2020 11:58am

Claw Hammer wrote: »

Why didn't ye all chip in 50c and shut the gob****e up? You were the bigger eejits.

We didn't think he was stupid enough to bring it up with the boss. Saying that, even if we did, the lads (myself included) wouldn't have given him a penny. It would have been easier for everyone involved to threaten him not to go to the boss in the first place. That way he wouldnt have to leave his job afterwards too.

Claw Hammer · 29-06-2020 12:58pm

SchrodingersCat wrote: »

We didn't think he was stupid enough to bring it up with the boss. Saying that, even if he did, the lads (myself included) wouldn't have given him .

So you read him wrong. Fat lot of good it did chasing him off site after the event.

Littlehorny · 29-06-2020 12:59pm

Mate of mine was manager of a large Super Valu in Dublin at the time. Met him in the local one evening and he told me he had quit because he was earning twice as much labouring for a few plasterers.

Don't know if this is a reflection of construction at the time or SuperValu being sh**e payers.

29-06-2020 1:28pm

Littlehorny wrote: »

Mate of mine was manager of a large Super Valu in Dublin at the time. Met him in the local one evening and he told me he had quit because he was earning twice as much labouring for a few plasterers.

Don't know if this is a reflection of construction at the time or SuperValu being sh**e payers.

My father has a business and on the odd occasion would cash cheques for one or two labourers we would have known at the time if they were stuck. Some of the cheques were 1,200e and more. Needless to say those lads never saved a penny of it and, unfortunately, I see one of them is now a heroin addict roaming the streets. Very sad.

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