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How appellants are treated in DR

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,538 ✭✭✭droidman123


    Enough of the "report button" please,its meaningless


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 8,474 ✭✭✭Obvious Desperate Breakfasts


    Has a mod decision ever been overturned as a matter of interest? I've only ever seen things reversed where the initial mod makes that decision.

    The very thread that Rasta posted.

    I’ve seen admins overturns things a bit down the years. Not too often but honestly, most of the infractions and bans seem richly deserved.


  • Administrators, Social & Fun Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 77,612 Admin ✭✭✭✭✭Beasty


    The very thread that Rasta posted.

    I’ve seen admins overturns things a bit down the years. Not too often but honestly, most of the infractions and bans seem richly deserved.

    And obviously there are a large number resolved behind the scenes. The ones that get to DRP are in most cases going to be ones where mods are reasonably clear that forum or site rules have been broken, so of course a large number of appeals will not succeed.

    On the other hand some do get overturned at each level of appeal. There was one recent one that did go to DRP and was then resolved behind the scenes once the appellant does actually engage with the mod. Equally Cmods can discuss things directly with mods, and that can result in a mod acknowledging their action was harsh, and revoking or reducing any sanction

    On the question of not reporting stuff - that's one of the main things that results in complaints of inconsistency. Particularly in fast moving forums such as AH and Soccer. People complain about inaction but then do not bother reporting stuff

    Yes some reports drop down the cracks. If after a couple of reports someone feels that something has still been missed they can approach a forum Mod. If they are still not satisfied the next level is CMod.

    The procedures are there for a reason, and in the main work. I'm not claiming everything is perfect. We are all human beings and we all have to accept that none of us are perfect. Sometimes we miss things, sometimes we misinterpret things, sometimes we get simply things wrong. Sometimes we exercise judgement that some are happy with and some are not. The natural tendency is to complain when unhappy, and there are many posters out there who never feel the need to complain because they are generally happy with what they see on the site


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,691 ✭✭✭s3rtvdbwfj81ch


    Is there a time limit on utilising the DRP, if there is, or has been a change in operating procedure, it might be a good idea to let people know.

    Relevant Link


  • Administrators, Social & Fun Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 77,612 Admin ✭✭✭✭✭Beasty


    No formal limit but to expect something to do looked at 6 months or so down the line is unreasonable

    I personally would prefer it if we had a strict limit of a couple of weeks or so. That would also link in to certain changes over how long the site retains edit information which is likely to be strictly time limited (if it's not already in place)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,964 ✭✭✭blackwhite


    Beasty wrote: »
    No formal limit but to expect something to do looked at 6 months or so down the line is unreasonable

    I personally would prefer it if we had a strict limit of a couple of weeks or so. That would also link in to certain changes over how long the site retains edit information which is likely to be strictly time limited (if it's not already in place)


    Whilst I'd agree that a site-wide time limit on appeals would make sense, given how the "totting-up" process works on the soccer forum it would seem fundamentally unfair to impose a shorter time limit on appeals than the charter-defined period for "totting up".


  • Registered Users, Subscribers, Registered Users 2 Posts: 47,336 ✭✭✭✭Zaph


    blackwhite wrote: »
    Whilst I'd agree that a site-wide time limit on appeals would make sense, given how the "totting-up" process works on the soccer forum it would seem fundamentally unfair to impose a shorter time limit on appeals than the charter-defined period for "totting up".

    If someone feels they've been unfairly carded, then why not appeal at the time, rather than waiting until they get themselves banned as a result of the totting up process? They'll know sooner rather than later whether their card has been overturned or not and consequently how close they are to a forum ban.


  • Administrators, Social & Fun Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 77,612 Admin ✭✭✭✭✭Beasty


    blackwhite wrote: »
    Whilst I'd agree that a site-wide time limit on appeals would make sense, given how the "totting-up" process works on the soccer forum it would seem fundamentally unfair to impose a shorter time limit on appeals than the charter-defined period for "totting up".

    If posters wish to appeal they really should do so when the underlying issue remains fresh in everyone's minds

    Posters in the soccer forum fully understand the totting up procedure. Trying to go back so long, as I've indicated above, is unreasonable. Indeed it's possible that relevant parties may no longer be on the site


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,365 ✭✭✭✭McMurphy


    Beasty wrote: »
    No formal limit but to expect something to do looked at 6 months or so down the line is unreasonable

    I don't disagree with you regarding someone initiating a DRP, but it is interesting that moderators/CMods and admin don't follow the same train of thought when it comes to a posters history on the site as a whole.

    There is apparently no time limit on digging up a posters history (or past accounts) when in the DRP, and I think a line should be drawn under this also.


  • Administrators, Social & Fun Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 77,612 Admin ✭✭✭✭✭Beasty


    I don't disagree with you regarding someone initiating a DRP, but it is interesting that moderators/CMods and admin don't follow the same train of thought when it comes to a posters history on the site as a whole.

    There is apparently no time limit on digging up a posters history (or past accounts) when in the DRP, and I think a line should be drawn under this also.

    I think you are comparing apples with oranges. The point is the DRP is available to anyone who wishes to avail of it. That can "clear" any such history. However if someone repeatedly causes trouble in a forum that record is useful on determining whether they will continue to do so

    I'm not suggesting a yellow or two from a couple of years ago should influence mod actions. I do think if someone has picked up an average of a card a month in a forum over a year or so that's very relevant in assessing likely future behaviour

    I'm not for one minute suggesting the DRP process is perfect, but I think it's a very reasonable process (and one which to my knowledge is not available in such a public form on other discussion sites)


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9,057 ✭✭✭.......


    Beasty wrote: »
    I'm not suggesting a yellow or two from a couple of years ago should influence mod actions.

    Old cards are regularly (or used to be anyway) used to beat posters with in the DRP.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,538 ✭✭✭droidman123


    Zaph wrote: »
    If someone feels they've been unfairly carded, then why not appeal at the time, rather than waiting until they get themselves banned as a result of the totting up process? They'll know sooner rather than later whether their card has been overturned or not and consequently how close they are to a forum ban.

    At a guess,i would imagine theres a lot of people that wouldnt bother at all with the drp to avoid being spoken down to by some random stranger with too much time on their hands.i for one certainly wouldnt give them the excuse to play at being a headmaster admonishing a pupil,i could be wrong but i,m sure theres many more too


  • Administrators, Social & Fun Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 77,612 Admin ✭✭✭✭✭Beasty


    ....... wrote: »
    Old cards are regularly (or used to be anyway) used to beat posters with in the DRP.

    If they have ongoing relevance they can be considered at mod level when issuing the initial sanction

    Cmods can increase the sanction if they see fit

    I have already indicated the sort of situation they may be used in and there is no point in repeating that

    Let me draw an analogy with the real world

    In court, if you lose you have a set time in which to appeal guilt or the sanction applied. However prior court sanctions that have not been successfully appealed may be taken into account when considering new sanctions

    I do not feel any further need to defend this point. In my view, as I've stated above, I consider the process entirely reasonable. You may beg to differ, and that is your prerogative.


  • Administrators, Social & Fun Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 77,612 Admin ✭✭✭✭✭Beasty


    At a guess,i would imagine theres a lot of people that wouldnt bother at all with the drp to avoid being spoken down to by some random stranger with too much time on their hands.i for one certainly wouldnt give them the excuse to play at being a headmaster admonishing a pupil,i could be wrong but i,m sure theres many more too
    Again if you don't want yo use it that's your prerogative

    It's there for those that do


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,538 ✭✭✭droidman123


    Beasty wrote: »
    Again if you don't want yo use it that's your prerogative

    It's there for those that do

    I,m aware of that,i just explained why i would never use it


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,584 ✭✭✭✭Steve


    Is there a time limit on utilising the DRP, if there is, or has been a change in operating procedure, it might be a good idea to let people know.

    Relevant Link

    Due to certain changes brought in to comply with GDPR to do with some data the mods can access, there is a DRP time limit being discussed. It's not fully decided yet although the data changes are already implemented.

    Sorry I can't say more.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9,057 ✭✭✭.......


    At a guess,i would imagine theres a lot of people that wouldnt bother at all with the drp to avoid being spoken down to by some random stranger with too much time on their hands.i for one certainly wouldnt give them the excuse to play at being a headmaster admonishing a pupil,i could be wrong but i,m sure theres many more too

    +1

    Having been the subject of treatment that amounted to someone trying to humiliate me and force me to grovel I would no longer ever consider it an honest and usable feature of the site.


  • Administrators, Social & Fun Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 77,612 Admin ✭✭✭✭✭Beasty


    ....... wrote: »
    +1

    Having been the subject of treatment that amounted to someone trying to humiliate me and force me to grovel I would no longer ever consider it an honest and usable feature of the site.
    There is a certain irony with your post there. You have availed of this process twice, and on both occasions the CMod agreed to overturn the card

    The details behind those appeals are, unfortunately, no longer available, but the underlying threads do exist in the Dispute Archive


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9,057 ✭✭✭.......


    Beasty wrote: »
    There is a certain irony with your post there. You have availed of this process twice, and on both occasions the CMod agreed to overturn the card

    The details behind those appeals are, unfortunately, no longer available, but the underlying threads do exist in the Dispute Archive

    Thats interesting Beasty because I requested all my posts be deleted some time ago under GDPR (when the site allowed it) - so the contents of old threads for this account should just say "post deleted".

    Are you telling me that the underlying database posts were never deleted despite them appearing deleted on screen?


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  • Administrators, Social & Fun Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 77,612 Admin ✭✭✭✭✭Beasty


    ....... wrote: »
    Thats interesting Beasty because I requested all my posts be deleted some time ago under GDPR (when the site allowed it) - so the contents of old threads for this account should just say "post deleted".

    Are you telling me that the underlying database posts were never deleted despite them appearing deleted on screen?
    No I'm saying the threads are still there plastered with posts from you stating this post has been deleted

    Hence I stated the underlying details are no longer available


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9,057 ✭✭✭.......


    Beasty wrote: »
    No I'm saying the threads are still there plastered with posts from you stating this post has been deleted

    Hence I stated the underlying details are no longer available

    "Plastered with posts" from me? Interesting turn of phrase eh? How exactly would you expect a user to have a thread in the DRP if not to post in it?

    You reply above is a prime example of how a mod treats a poster in the DRP - a classic "headmaster speaking down" to a user. Well done on your perfect illustration.

    However, I must reveal, I was in fact referring to earlier accounts with my comment - of course, boards.ie no longer knows which earlier accounts were mine - or at least that is what they told me when I requested the posts from them were also deleted.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,691 ✭✭✭s3rtvdbwfj81ch


    Beasty wrote: »
    No I'm saying the threads are still there plastered with posts from you stating this post has been deleted

    Hence I stated the underlying details are no longer available

    :D

    Don't even attempt to post in DRP, lest you be accused of "plastering" the place with comment.

    Still though, the point remains. It's ok for Admin etc to drag up previous, but it's "unreasonable" to dispute historic sanctions.

    It was ever thus.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,691 ✭✭✭s3rtvdbwfj81ch


    Beasty wrote: »
    If they have ongoing relevance they can be considered at mod level when issuing the initial sanction

    So here's a contradiction. Historic cards have "ongoing relevence" in bans as a result of a "totting up" process.

    So what you are saying here is that Admin etc may reference them, but the appellant may not refer to them, nor appeal them, if Admin etc deem that to be "unreasonable".

    That is pretty stacked against users, if you'd be honest about it for once.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,538 ✭✭✭droidman123


    ....... wrote: »
    +1

    Having been the subject of treatment that amounted to someone trying to humiliate me and force me to grovel I would no longer ever consider it an honest and usable feature of the site.

    This is a regular feature in the drp.i often wondered why anyone would put hours of work in for a private profit making company for no pay.over the years it has become clear that the "payment" is their little control panel and the free reign to belittle people in the drp.this is not my opinion,its a fact,its there for everyone to see.the prison forum used to be a free for all for them until we got that stopped.the last (and only) feedback thread i started warning them about their behaviour was abruptly closed with some tinpot excuse.i really dont understand why anyone would use the drp at all


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 33,518 ✭✭✭✭dudara


    Over the years it has become clear that the "payment" is their little control panel and the free reign to belittle people in the drp.this is not my opinion,its a fact

    This statement is quite personally insulting. I’m sure many other Admins & CMods also feel the same.

    How do you honestly expect to have a reasonable discussion when you insult people like this? I genuinely have no interest in engaging with you because you clearly do not accept that I am coming from a place of genuine intent.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,538 ✭✭✭droidman123


    dudara wrote: »
    This statement is quite personally insulting. I’m sure many other Admins & CMods also feel the same.

    How do you honestly expect to have a reasonable discussion when you insult people like this? I genuinely have no interest in engaging with you because you clearly do not accept that I am coming from a place of genuine intent.
    I,d like to know where the insults are? What part of what i said is not true and why? I simply pointed out facts.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 33,518 ✭✭✭✭dudara


    The fact that you can’t see how it is insulting is frankly amazing. You’ve questioned the personal integrity of every admin and CMod and yet you don’t see how that’s offensive?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,538 ✭✭✭droidman123


    dudara wrote: »
    The fact that you can’t see how it is insulting is frankly amazing. You’ve questioned the personal integrity of every admin and CMod and yet you don’t see how that’s offensive?

    Now you are making things up and totally exaggerating,i ask again,what part of what i said do you not agree with and why?


  • Administrators, Social & Fun Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 77,612 Admin ✭✭✭✭✭Beasty


    ....... wrote: »
    "Plastered with posts" from me? Interesting turn of phrase eh? How exactly would you expect a user to have a thread in the DRP if not to post in it?

    You reply above is a prime example of how a mod treats a poster in the DRP - a classic "headmaster speaking down" to a user. Well done on your perfect illustration.

    How the hell can you look to take offence at such comments?

    Really??

    I guess that's the nature of some posters around here, including the OP who is frankly like a dog with a bone in this thread. "Oh look! another chance to feign offence"

    If you have a look at the threads yourself you will see exactly what I mean, but that really does not suit your agenda, does it?


  • Administrators Posts: 14,395 Admin ✭✭✭✭✭Big Bag of Chips


    ..... free reign to belittle people in the drp.this is not my opinion,its a fact,its there for everyone to see......

    I really dont understand why anyone would use the drp at all

    I don't believe I have ever belittled anyone in the DRP forum, and I think I have overturned as many cards as I've upheld.

    That's a fact.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,538 ✭✭✭droidman123


    I don't believe I have ever belittled anyone in the DRP forum, and I think I have overturned as many cards as I've upheld.

    That's a fact.

    I was generalising and didnt pinpoint anyone in particular,the people that do it know who they are,and so do i


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 20,633 ✭✭✭✭Buford T. Justice XIX


    Now you are making things up and totally exaggerating,i ask again,what part of what i said do you not agree with and why?

    What's true for you, using your life experience and judgement, doesn't make it a universal truth.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,538 ✭✭✭droidman123


    What's true for you, using your life experience and judgement, doesn't make it a universal truth.

    But its there in black and white for everyone to see.a question for you,do you with all honesty see nothing at all wrong with the way some people in the drp are spoken to?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 20,633 ✭✭✭✭Buford T. Justice XIX


    But its there in black and white for everyone to see.a question for you,do you with all honesty see nothing at all wrong with the way some people in the drp are spoken to?

    Frankly, no, having seen some of the prolonged behaviour of some posters that ended up there for.

    DRP wouldn't be the first occasion that most there would have come to the attention of moderators on the site, there's normally a prolonged attempt to steer those posters back inside the rather broad parameters for posting on the site.


  • Administrators Posts: 14,395 Admin ✭✭✭✭✭Big Bag of Chips


    I,d like to know where the insults are? What part of what i said is not true and why? I simply pointed out facts.

    I was generalising and didnt pinpoint anyone in particular,the people that do it know who they are,and so do i

    Don't generalise.. As dudara said, it's insulting. And it weakens your point.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 33,518 ✭✭✭✭dudara


    Now you are making things up and totally exaggerating,i ask again,what part of what i said do you not agree with and why?

    The onus is on you. You framed your statement as a fact.

    Please provide proof that "that the "payment" is their little control panel and the free reign to belittle people in the drp".


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,538 ✭✭✭droidman123


    Frankly, no, having seen some of the prolonged behaviour of some posters that ended up there for.

    DRP wouldn't be the first occasion that most there would have come to the attention of moderators on the site, there's normally a prolonged attempt to steer those posters back inside the rather broad parameters for posting on the site.

    I think the problem is the admins behaviour has become indoctrined over the years and has become the "norm". Of course it will never be the norm and will always be unacceptable. As i have said umpteen times before,the reason why a poster is on the drp or their behaviour is completely irrelevant.lift the ban or dont lift the ban(neither is my concern) but its the way some people are spoken down to that makes the problem.i dont know if you have read a lot of the drps over the last few years,but it is clear that a lot of people have been ridiculed,belitted,and humiliated


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,538 ✭✭✭droidman123


    Don't generalise.. As dudara said, it's insulting. And it weakens your point.

    So are you saying i should name the mian culprits?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,538 ✭✭✭droidman123


    dudara wrote: »
    The onus is on you. You framed your statement as a fact.

    Please provide proof that "that the "payment" is their little control panel and the free reign to belittle people in the drp".

    Do you get paid for the hours of work you do for this private company?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9,057 ✭✭✭.......


    Beasty wrote: »
    How the hell can you look to take offence at such comments?

    Really??

    I guess that's the nature of some posters around here, including the OP who is frankly like a dog with a bone in this thread. "Oh look! another chance to feign offence"

    If you have a look at the threads yourself you will see exactly what I mean, but that really does not suit your agenda, does it?

    You expect me not to take offence when you reference a past DRP from me as being "plastered with posts"?

    You cannot see how that is condescending? Really?

    Then there is something very very wrong with your understanding of how to address people civilly.

    As for the rest - I dont know what imaginary agenda you are talking about but I do know that if you had some basic manners and civility when interacting with posters then perhaps people would not take offence.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 33,518 ✭✭✭✭dudara


    Do you get paid for the hours of work you do for this private company?

    That's not the point here, so stop diverting. You stated that payment was " their little control panel and the free reign to belittle people in the drp".


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,538 ✭✭✭droidman123


    dudara wrote: »
    That's not the point here, so stop diverting. You stated that payment was " their little control panel and the free reign to belittle people in the drp".

    You are the one constantly diverting from the previous questions i have asked.anyway,if you dont get paid the only logical reason i can see for anyone doing what you and others do is because it gives you the options to put down posters in the drp and prison forums and to have your wisecracks at other peoples expense.(when i say "you" i,m talking about the admins in general


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,652 ✭✭✭✭Timberrrrrrrr


    You are the one constantly diverting from the previous questions i have asked.anyway,if you dont get paid the only logical reason i can see for anyone doing what you and others do is because it gives you the options to put down posters in the drp and prison forums and to have your wisecracks at other peoples expense.(when i say "you" i,m talking about the admins in general

    Or maybe they volunteer simply because they like the site and wish to keep it running smoothly?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 33,518 ✭✭✭✭dudara


    You are the one constantly diverting from the previous questions i have asked.anyway,if you dont get paid the only logical reason i can see for anyone doing what you and others do is because it gives you the options to put down posters in the drp and prison forums and to have your wisecracks at other peoples expense.(when i say "you" i,m talking about the admins in general

    As you are not willing to offer proof and substantiate your statement of fact, I am going to ask you not to post on this topic again. At this point you are spinning the same line continuously and not offering anything new.


  • Administrators, Social & Fun Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 77,612 Admin ✭✭✭✭✭Beasty


    ....... wrote: »
    You expect me not to take offence when you reference a past DRP from me as being "plastered with posts"?

    You cannot see how that is condescending? Really?

    Then there is something very very wrong with your understanding of how to address people civilly.

    As for the rest - I dont know what imaginary agenda you are talking about but I do know that if you had some basic manners and civility when interacting with posters then perhaps people would not take offence.
    Again you choose to have a dig

    Your appeal threads have numerous posts which simply state "this post has been deleted". All your posts in the relevant threads say that. Plastered is a figure of speech highlighting the fact those posts say nothing else. But again, go ahead and take offence, as you seem very keen to do whenever providing "feedback".

    And yes I will be civil when appropriate, but when I see the likes as yourself in threads like this, I occasionally decide to post in a way that highlights the absurdity of positions you may look to take.

    Your agenda is quite clear, and indeed quite blatantly put within feedback threads. You do not like the way the site is run, and you look to take whatever opportunities you can to display your discontent. I often wonder why some of you bother posting in feedback, unless you get some kind of kick out of having your little digs

    And yes, I'm having a dig, because it seems to be a way of life for some posters so I feel on occasion I am entitled to give as good as I get


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,314 ✭✭✭KyussB


    In fairness, Boards has a widely held public perception, of mods being 'overly fond of their control panel' - as it was put.

    It seems a bit silly getting offended by it and debating over it - it's a reputation the site has well earned - making an argument over it and restricting someone from the thread over it, creates a perception of proving the posters point tbh - a perception which would easily be avoided by *shock* less use of mod powers...

    If someone's not being overly constructive on the thread, there's no need to try to pick at something to skewer them on a technicality - it looks less bad to just let the strand of the conversation end naturally, or just tell them to knock it off without thread banning.

    In one strand of discussion, a poster taking offence with that dismissed by admins/cmods, in another strand of discussion, an admin taking offence with a poster threadban in place...perhaps thicker skins would help...


  • Administrators, Social & Fun Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 77,612 Admin ✭✭✭✭✭Beasty


    Here you go

    https://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2057897868 - 8 posts in one page - apologies a 9th post said "bump"

    and here

    https://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2057856610

    11 posts all saying "this post has been deleted"

    Yes I know you exercised your right at the time to have those post deleted, but I was highlighting the irony that despite saying you won't use the process, you have successfully done so on 2 occasions. As I mentioned above, "plastered" is an entirely appropriate description given the underlying posts are no longer available

    I don't know what your prior account(s) was(were) so obviously cannot comment on those, but as this account has been active for over 2 years I suspect they were some time ago


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9,057 ✭✭✭.......


    Beasty wrote: »
    Again you choose to have a dig

    Please point out what dig I made?
    Beasty wrote: »
    Your appeal threads have numerous posts which simply state "this post has been deleted". All your posts in the relevant threads say that. Plastered is a figure of speech highlighting the fact those posts say nothing else. But again, go ahead and take offence, as you seem very keen to do whenever providing "feedback".

    You do understand that the posts once had content yes?
    Beasty wrote: »
    And yes I will be civil when appropriate,

    Shame that you do not realise that in a professional capacity one should always be civil.
    Beasty wrote: »
    ...when I see the likes as yourself in threads like this...

    The likes of myself? Do elucidate?
    Beasty wrote: »
    Your agenda is quite clear..

    Well your imagination certainly is.
    Beasty wrote: »
    And yes, I'm having a dig....

    Dig away if it makes you feel good. Your posts only reflect on yourself.

    Its funny, because another poster has made the point on this thread that the DRP is used for mods here to wield their power and try to belittle people.

    Unfortunately Beasty. your posts over the past day or so towards me do little to disprove that point.

    From incivility to a chip on your shoulder to an imaginary agenda - its pretty telling stuff.


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    ....... wrote: »

    Unfortunately Beasty. your posts over the past day or so towards me do little to disprove that point.

    From incivility to a chip on your shoulder to an imaginary agenda - its pretty telling stuff.
    I am happy to stand behind every post I have ever made on this site. I think anyone reading this thread (and my posts) can make up their own minds


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    Beasty wrote: »
    I am happy to stand behind every post I have ever made on this site. I think anyone reading this thread (and my posts) can make up their own minds

    I 100% agree with you.


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