Flightradar24 Thread Part III

BZ · 07-02-2016 3:41pm

Carnacalla wrote: »

Negative, 270 degrees.

You are correct.

JCX BXC · 07-02-2016 4:14pm

Carnacalla wrote: »

DK5827 (Oslo-Tenerife) turned around south of Cork and is diverting to SNN. On finals now.

http://m.independent.ie/irish-news/news/disruptive-passenger-forces-tenerifebound-flight-to-divert-to-shannon-airport-34430798.html

Disruptive passenger.

Shannon757 · 07-02-2016 5:06pm

http://www.flightradar24.com/EIN875/8c02685
What's happening here?

JCX BXC · 07-02-2016 5:08pm

Wind!

Just spotted it, wind 250 degrees 24kts gusting 37kts (ATC)
16:00 reports for ORK gives 240 degrees 25kts gusting 41kts

Seems EI875 had a go-around, and is now holding.

Edit: going to make an approach now.

JCX BXC · 07-02-2016 5:11pm

Also at Dublin just now WX119 had a go-around on RWY28 and is now on approach to RWY16.

Shannon757 · 07-02-2016 5:11pm

Carnacalla wrote: »

Wind!

Just spotted it, wind 250 degrees 24kts gusting 37kts (ATC)
16:00 reports for ORK gives 240 degrees 25kts gusting 41kts

Seems EI875 had a go-around, and is now holding.

Edit: going to make an approach now.

You sure he's going for an approach?

JCX BXC · 07-02-2016 5:12pm

Shannon757 wrote: »

You sure he's going for an approach?

Completely, listening into ATC now.

Shannon757 · 07-02-2016 5:13pm

Carnacalla wrote: »

Completely, listening into ATC now.

My mistake.

JCX BXC · 07-02-2016 5:16pm

On the ground.

FR24 messing up the altitudes again.

Shannon757 · 07-02-2016 5:18pm

Carnacalla wrote: »

On the ground.

FR24 messing up the altitudes again.

I was guessing the passengers wouldn't like a sudden 1000 ft drop to the ground at the last second.

JCX BXC · 07-02-2016 5:27pm

I wonder which airports EI725 (LHR-ORK) will end up in tonight. ORK,SNN or DUB?

Shannon757 · 07-02-2016 5:28pm

Carnacalla wrote: »

I wonder which airports EI725 (LHR-ORK) will end up in tonight. ORK,SNN or DUB?

BFS?

JCX BXC · 07-02-2016 5:29pm

Shannon757 wrote: »

BFS?

Wouldn't be the most absurd.
What an awful bus journey that would be.

Jack1985 · 07-02-2016 5:36pm

Guys little pointer, the altitude seems way off because the local QNH at DUB is 976hPa. There's actually a NOTAM has been released in the London FIR to remind crews to adhere to STD pressure settings as there is a change of nearly 600ft off and on to the local QNH due to the current WX.

I see RYR88MD (FR7033/EI-EMD) seemed to roll of B2 into the T2 cul de sac? Not your area boys

http://www.flightradar24.com/RYR88MD/8c04185

Chris_5339762 · 07-02-2016 5:53pm

Purely out of interest, can someone look through the TAFS, decode them for me, and just let me know what the gusts were at Gatwick last night (6th) when FR119 was taking off?

I was on it and it was rough enough taking off with winds from the south... deviated from centerline a bit once we were up (fine) but I'm just intrigued how close we would have been to crosswind limits. Probably not very close but I'd still be interested. Thanks!

Shannon757 · 07-02-2016 5:59pm

Chris_5339762 wrote: »

Purely out of interest, can someone look through the TAFS, decode them for me, and just let me know what the gusts were at Gatwick last night (6th) when FR119 was taking off?

I was on it and it was rough enough taking off with winds from the south... deviated from centerline a bit once we were up (fine) but I'm just intrigued how close we would have been to crosswind limits. Probably not very close but I'd still be interested. Thanks!

We could, but it'll cost ya.:rolleyes:

Chris_5339762 · 07-02-2016 6:03pm

Heres a link to some pictures of planes, will that do

https://www.google.ie/search?q=aeroplane&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwis9bz3kObKAhUMEJAKHVQjDEAQ_AUIBygB&biw=1920&bih=1036#imgrc=sRyWg2Ff-fu-OM%3A

JCX BXC · 07-02-2016 6:11pm

Chris_5339762 wrote: »

Purely out of interest, can someone look through the TAFS, decode them for me, and just let me know what the gusts were at Gatwick last night (6th) when FR119 was taking off?

I was on it and it was rough enough taking off with winds from the south... deviated from centerline a bit once we were up (fine) but I'm just intrigued how close we would have been to crosswind limits. Probably not very close but I'd still be interested. Thanks!

FR119 took off at 21:39?

Looking at the METARS (Weather Reports), TAF's are the Forecasts, I could look at those too but the METARS are more useful.

These are the two relevant METARS:

EGKK 062150Z 19019G29KT 150V220 7000 RA BKN012 09/08 Q0987
London Gatwick, 06 Feburary 21:50, wind 190 degrees 19kts Gusting 29kts, variation from 150degrees to 220degrees, visibility 7000m, weather moderate rain, clouds broken at 1200ft, temperature 9c, dewpoint 8c, QNH 987 hPa

EGKK 062120Z 17015G29KT 7000 RA BKN016 09/08 Q0988
London Gatwick 06 Feburary 21:20 wind 170 degrees 15kts gusting 29kts, visibility 7000m, weather moderate rain, clouds broken at 1600ft, temperture 9c, dewpoint 8c, QNH 988 hPa

Almost complete/complete crosswind on Gatwicks RWY26/08 with a gust of 29kts. With a wet runway the crosswind limit is around 35-40kts for Ryanair I think, could be wrong there though.

Jack1985 · 07-02-2016 6:42pm

Lots of variation for max x-wind dependent on breaking action - Max x-wind with good breaking action for the 738 would be 35kt, going all the way down to 15kt dependent on breaking action being either Good (35kt), Med/good (30kt), Medium (25kt), med/poor (20kt) or Poor (15kt).

For example with the latest METAR at DUB (210 at 20kts gusting 34kts) on RWY16, the x-wind would be 21kt.

JCX BXC · 07-02-2016 6:44pm

Jack1985 wrote: »

Lots of variation for max x-wind dependent on breaking action - Max x-wind with good breaking action for the 738 would be 35kt, going all the way down to 15kt dependent on breaking action being either Good (35kt), Med/good (30kt), Medium (25kt), med/poor (20kt) or Poor (15kt).

For example with the latest METAR at DUB (210 at 20kts gusting 34kts) on RWY16, the x-wind would be 21kt.

Is there better braking action than Good?

Jack1985 · 07-02-2016 6:53pm

Carnacalla wrote: »

Is there better braking action than Good?

Nope. There's another category to known as Sh!te as an EI pilot said only recently on the company frequency.

JCX BXC · 07-02-2016 7:00pm

EI243 LGW-DUB being operated by EI-EPT (A319).

Didn't realise EI had any A319's left.

Jack1985 · 07-02-2016 7:17pm

Winds at IOM currently 190 at 29kts gusting 40kts - X-wind being 32kt and the Runway is wet! :cool:

https://www.flightradar24.com/BEE3MG/8c0b460

JCX BXC · 07-02-2016 7:19pm

Runway being damp, wet, and wet with standing water, do they directly correlate to breaking action readings?

Those Flybe's can really hold for a while!

pepe the prawn · 07-02-2016 7:22pm

Stobart's other most recent ATR EI-FMK inbound to cork now.. That's their two newest machines now based at cork.. Nice!

Shannon Control · 07-02-2016 7:38pm

http://www.flightradar24.com/STK58ED/8c0bf9b STK58ed on west apron with rescue vehicles surrounding aswell as police due to unruly pax I think I heard over freq

JCX BXC · 07-02-2016 7:39pm

Must be the weather, really getting to people! Just look at the weather fourm!

07-02-2016 8:19pm

Shannon Control wrote: »

http://www.flightradar24.com/STK58ED/8c0bf9b STK58ed on west apron with rescue vehicles surrounding aswell as police due to unruly pax I think I heard over freq

No it's a bit more serious than that.

Jack1985 · 07-02-2016 8:35pm

Runway being damp, wet, and wet with standing water, do they directly correlate to breaking action readings?

Yep they kind of do, the breaking action would go on runway friction test or through PIREPs majorly.

Deleted User wrote: »

No it's a bit more serious than that.

Any more info?

07-02-2016 8:36pm

A note passed to cabin crew that 4 people on board with knives. ERU have surrounded the aircraft.

Jack1985 · 07-02-2016 8:40pm

Deleted User wrote: »

A note passed to cabin crew that 4 people on board with knives. ERU have surrounded the aircraft.

Christ, hope all are ok

07-02-2016 8:42pm

Jack1985 wrote: »

Christ, hope all are ok

Most likely something written on a piece of paper from an earlier flight discovered by subsequent pax.

Jack1985 · 07-02-2016 8:46pm

Deleted User wrote: »

Most likely something written on a piece of paper from an earlier flight discovered by subsequent pax.

There was a big crackdown on this recently within EI, particular pax wrote BOMB in Lav across the table. As such with any threat the aircraft was grounded for its next sector, searched thoroughly. Corporate security pulled up the passenger details for the particular seat and gardai pursued it.

Jack1985 · 07-02-2016 8:49pm

Just hearing a man was forcibly removed from the EDI flight by ERU

arubex · 07-02-2016 9:06pm

Carnacalla wrote: »

EI243 LGW-DUB being operated by EI-EPT (A319).
Didn't realise EI had any A319's left.

Oh yes, EI-EPU and EI-EPT have been tormenting us up here at Belfast City for months, with no reprieve in sight...

arubex · 07-02-2016 9:08pm

Jack1985 wrote: »

There was a big crackdown on this recently within EI, particular pax wrote BOMB in Lav across the table. As such with any threat the aircraft was grounded for its next sector, searched thoroughly. Corporate security pulled up the passenger details for the particular seat and gardai pursued it.

Sounds like an easy way for a prankster to drop some innocent passenger into hot water. Fold-down and check your tables, everyone, when you return from a toilet-trip.

Not that I know what to do if someone had written that on my table. Trying to explain it to the cabin crew without them triggering on 'the' word might be difficult.

Jack1985 · 07-02-2016 9:19pm

arubex wrote: »

Sounds like an easy way for a prankster to drop some innocent passenger into hot water. Fold-down and check your tables, everyone, when you return from a toilet-trip.

Not that I know what to do if someone had written that on my table. Trying to explain it to the cabin crew without them triggering on 'the' word might be difficult.

Not really. Aircraft was cleaned after its first sector, it was spotted being cleaned for the the 3rd sector.

JCX BXC · 07-02-2016 9:21pm

T'would be fairly shocking for a passenger to be mid-flight and pull down the tray to find bomb written across it, could have caused a panic if that happened. I'd say the cleaner wasn't impressed either. Edit: Or am I getting confused between 2 incidents?

arubex · 07-02-2016 9:25pm

I was more thinking of the guy from seat 12D ( or whatever ) receiving an unannounced visit from the Gardai with no direct evidence that he wrote it. Could have been the guy in 12E that did it.

JCX BXC · 07-02-2016 9:59pm

FR669 gone around due to traffic on Runway at DUB.

sparrowcar · 07-02-2016 10:04pm

Pax removed had suspected mental health issues. False alarm but he had claimed 4 men on board had knives so understandably the Gardai took no chances.

breanach78 · 07-02-2016 10:09pm

Sweet private plane about to take off from DUB.

JCX BXC · 07-02-2016 10:32pm

The Shannon tower/app feed is completely fecked, most transmittions are very broken and unintelligible.

Chris_5339762 · 07-02-2016 10:47pm

Carnacalla wrote: »

FR119 took off at 21:39?

Looking at the METARS (Weather Reports), TAF's are the Forecasts, I could look at those too but the METARS are more useful.

These are the two relevant METARS:

EGKK 062150Z 19019G29KT 150V220 7000 RA BKN012 09/08 Q0987
London Gatwick, 06 Feburary 21:50, wind 190 degrees 19kts Gusting 29kts, variation from 150degrees to 220degrees, visibility 7000m, weather moderate rain, clouds broken at 1200ft, temperature 9c, dewpoint 8c, QNH 987 hPa

EGKK 062120Z 17015G29KT 7000 RA BKN016 09/08 Q0988
London Gatwick 06 Feburary 21:20 wind 170 degrees 15kts gusting 29kts, visibility 7000m, weather moderate rain, clouds broken at 1600ft, temperture 9c, dewpoint 8c, QNH 988 hPa

Almost complete/complete crosswind on Gatwicks RWY26/08 with a gust of 29kts. With a wet runway the crosswind limit is around 35-40kts for Ryanair I think, could be wrong there though.

Thanks for that.... it was pretty much a complete crosswind alright, noticed that on Netweather. Only 29kts gust though... dread to think what takeoff/landing would be close to limits. Part of me would like to give it a lash.... if I didn't have to go to work the following day after a divert to Shannon!

JCX BXC · 07-02-2016 11:24pm

Wind just out of limits for EI887 on approach to Cork, 250 degrees gusting 39kts. Continuing approach hoping for the wind to return to 240 degrees or for the gust to drop.

Update: EI887 going around. Going to enter hold to wait for the gust to drop.
Update 2: Gust down to 33kts, making another approach

BZ · 08-02-2016 12:17am

EGLL showing gusts up to 55 knots between 1200 and 1700 tomorrow. Should make for some interesting viewing.

JCX BXC · 08-02-2016 12:40am

Carnacalla wrote: »

I wonder which airports EI725 (LHR-ORK) will end up in tonight. ORK,SNN or DUB?

On approach to RWY35 at ORK now, gust only 33kts, got in between a shower:D

JCX BXC · 08-02-2016 12:57am

Few go arounds at LGW now, wind only 17kts G28kts, but thunderstorms in the vicinity, so likely VERY turbulent with possible windshear.

Locker10a · 08-02-2016 1:01am

Carnacalla wrote: »

Few go arounds at LGW now, wind only 17kts G28kts, but thunderstorms in the vicinity, so likely VERY turbulent with possible windshear.

Yes I've been watching the stuff trying to get into LGW ! Everything delayed too

Growler!!! · 08-02-2016 9:03am

As far as I can see the 2 new Stobart ATR's are the only flights to depart ORK this morning (FMJ and FMK).

Can't find the FR902 has it left yet?

Flightradar24 Thread Part III

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