Bareknuckle FC

simongurnick · 05-04-2019 6:46pm #1

The Bareknuckle Fighting Championships have been building up some media awareness recently with the addition of Paulie Malignaggi and tomorrow's fight between two ex UFC's, one being Artem Lobev.

Anyone here have an interest in it as it starts to come more mainstream? And should we expect to see Irish interest given the long history of bare knuckle, going back to John L Sullivan in the states and within the travelling community.

Donald Trump · 05-04-2019 11:25pm

simongurnick wrote: »

The Bareknuckle Fighting Championships have been building up some media awareness recently with the addition of Paulie Malignaggi and tomorrow's fight between two ex UFC's, one being Artem Lobev.

Anyone here have an interest in it as it starts to come more mainstream? And should we expect to see Irish interest given the long history of bare knuckle, going back to John L Sullivan in the states and within the travelling community.

People used to fight bareknuckle. Then they stopped doing it. For good reasons.

(I am sure people will point out that the same thing happened with headguards but I don't think the same point can be made. Bareknuckle is a different sport)

I wouldn't have any interest in it personally. Doing it or watching it.

heno86 · 06-04-2019 10:22pm

Yeh I’d watch it...will be interesting to see how the likes of malignaggi who isn’t considered a big puncher fares, the boxing skills without gloves could mean he’s knocking people out,

brendanwalsh · 06-04-2019 10:49pm

Anyway to watch this in the UK ireland?

Man Vs ManUre · 06-04-2019 10:52pm

brendanwalsh wrote: »

Anyway to watch this in the UK ireland?

I’d like to watch it too but don’t think it’s on any roi tv sports channel.
Guess I will just watch it on YouTube in the morning. The Artem Pauly feud this week has been entertaining.

Joeseph Balls · 07-04-2019 12:04am

Man Vs ManUre wrote: »

I’d like to watch it too but don’t think it’s on any roi tv sports channel.
Guess I will just watch it on YouTube in the morning. The Artem Pauly feud this week has been entertaining.

The prelims are seemingly free on fb but I couldn't find them.
So I watched a bit of older stuff on YouTube.
Hopefully it has improved since the fight I watched. Two fat lads hugging each other

simongurnick · 07-04-2019 4:55am

just finished watching the main card. won't give away too much yet but do yourself and favour and watch the main event.

RonanP77 · 07-04-2019 7:28am

Not much skill on display in the main event but still a hell of a scrap, both guys are as hard as nails.

heno86 · 07-04-2019 6:06pm

Just watched it there on YouTube , very entertaining..I think this style of fighting suits some people perfectly, the likes of artem

Angliru · 07-04-2019 9:18pm

Hopefully this is nipped in the bud quickly. It is horrible to watch. It is barbaric and frankly you'd find more skill in a tinkers cross road scrap. You're watching washed up fighters who should have retired inflict more severe brain damage on one another. I cannot support that.

heno86 · 07-04-2019 9:54pm

The gloves are to protect the fighters hands and prevent cuts not brain damage, if anything it allows the fighter to throw harder consecutive headshots causing more accumulated brain trauma. It’s definitely gruesome enough but I wouldn’t say more dangerous in relation to long term brain injury...

Joeseph Balls · 07-04-2019 10:00pm

Have to say whilst it was in a way entertaining, it didn't sit right with me. Especially seeing the faces tweeted afterwards. I think Eric Donovan described it fairly how I feel.
Afterwards, I kind of felt bad for both guys.
Each to their own, but not for Me, I'll stick with boxing and to a lesser extent, mma.

Donald Trump · 07-04-2019 10:00pm

heno86 wrote: »

The gloves are to protect the fighters hands and prevent cuts not brain damage, if anything it allows the fighter to throw harder consecutive headshots causing more accumulated brain trauma. It’s definitely gruesome enough but I wouldn’t say more dangerous in relation to long term brain injury...

I don't know man.

Big difference between sparring with 16oz and competition gloves. Now extrapolate that to no gloves. I wouldn't think it is a good thing.

There is an argument that you might take less punches overall because you are getting knocked out quicker but not on the harder shots thing. I am sure that they are still allowed to wrap their hands for bare-knuckle?

RoryMac · 07-04-2019 10:06pm

Same for me, I don't know the science behind it being more or less dangerous than wearing gloves but it just doesn't sit well with me.

Also I saw the guy running the event coming into the ring after a fight and announcing that they were cutting one of the fighters purses and giving it to his opponent because of a perceived lack of action in the fight. That can't be right and seems to say the organisers are trying to create a bit of blood lust to promote the shows

Johner · 07-04-2019 10:08pm

It's uncomfortable viewing but it's entertaining in a sick sort of way. I'd probably watch Malignaggi v Artem.

Donald Trump · 08-04-2019 3:27pm

Lion Killer wrote: »

You must not be a fightin man. Let the men be men and fight. I would like to see them allow dirty fights too. Some good fights there now. No tip tap and run around. Real fights for real fightin men.

I like to see them bring in some of Ireland's best fightin men.

Ah sure let them get tooled up then before the fight while you are at it. Choice of stanley knife, baseball bat or pint bottle.

(I can't tell whether you are being sarcastic or not)

boxer.fan · 08-04-2019 10:25pm

Big Joe's Davy needs to be signed up to this outfit.

08-04-2019 11:33pm

Angliru wrote: »

Hopefully this is nipped in the bud quickly. It is horrible to watch. It is barbaric and frankly you'd find more skill in a tinkers cross road scrap. You're watching washed up fighters who should have retired inflict more severe brain damage on one another. I cannot support that.

Have to agree - it's more the lack of skill that annoys me. There are so many amazing skilled boxers and MMArtists in Ireland that this looks a bit "car park on a bad night" ish to me. Those ridiculous loopy overhand haymaker attempts, zero boxing movement look dreadful.

That being said Artem gave a really good interview here https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h_sQgQpGr7Q
Not a fan of Ariel in general - but this is a fair interview and can't not be happy for Artem and appreciate his honesty here. Glad no broken bones.

Not quite buying the "no head trauma here, it's safer with no headgear/no gloves" stchick. Don't believe there are any conclusive studies either way on that, hope its not Joe/Bro Rogan science being spread as gospel... But hope I'm wrong...

09-04-2019 4:04pm

I only discovered BKFC today and tbh I did find it very entertaining but that said, surely this won't be allowed continue too long. Two lads knocking the sh!t out of each other inside of a circle coming out mashed to a pulp.

simongurnick · 09-04-2019 6:39pm

Cake of Tremendous Power wrote: »

I only discovered BKFC today and tbh I did find it very entertaining but that said, surely this won't be allowed continue too long. Two lads knocking the sh!t out of each inside of a circle coming out mashed to a pulp.

I think it's only regulated in a couple of states right now, but you have to hand it to the guy. I think the last sanctioned fight was in the 1890's and he's brought it back into the mainstream. It is raw and the cuts open real fast, but for many people MMA and boxing are barbaric too.
Personally, I found it entertaining but not sure I'd have my kids watching it, whereas I never had a concern watching boxing with them.
It will be interesting to see where it goes. So far it's mainly ex MMA guys but with Paulie involved we may see more boxers. Could be scary to have a couple of tough Mexicans going at it bare knuckle!

Ush1 · 15-04-2019 10:36am

I'd prefer bare knuckle MMA to be honest. At least the grappling would save your face a fair bit.

yourdeadwright · 23-05-2019 5:13pm

I hear they have to wear gloves to fight in Florida so the Artem v Paulie fight is a scam its a boxing match nothing more

fonecrusher1 · 26-05-2019 1:54pm

Paul Malignaggi showing his class lately in the press conference for his fight against Artem. Spitting at his opponent, foul mouthed, boasting about how much more money he has than Artem. Says it all about the guy. :rolleyes:

RonanP77 · 26-05-2019 10:26pm

fonecrusher1 wrote:

Paul Malignaggi showing his class lately in the press conference for his fight against Artem. Spitting at his opponent, foul mouthed, boasting about how much more money he has than Artem. Says it all about the guy.

Totally agree and I hate the guy but unfortunately he'll still make a show of Artem.

simongurnick · 27-05-2019 1:39am

yourdeadwright wrote: »

I hear they have to wear gloves to fight in Florida so the Artem v Paulie fight is a scam its a boxing match nothing more

Really? What size?

yourdeadwright · 27-05-2019 9:09am

simongurnick wrote: »

Really? What size?

There gloves with the knuckle part missing I kid you not

They look horrible,

fonecrusher1 · 28-05-2019 4:59pm

RonanP77 wrote: »

Totally agree and I hate the guy but unfortunately he'll still make a show of Artem.

You may well be right, he'll out box him no problem. But whens the last time Pauli had a competitive fight? Few years ago. Also bare knuckle by its nature is bloody. Literally. Malignaggi has a lot of scar tissue above his eyes. It Artem cuts badly him enough it could get stopped.

simongurnick · 29-05-2019 5:01pm

I think Artem will rough him up. Paulie is going to the local hospital after this one.

29-05-2019 5:06pm

Anyone have a link to the gloves they'll be using?
I tried searching but I just got knuckles gloves from sonic the hedgehog

Angliru · 05-06-2019 5:16pm

Randall Bailey added to the Paulie card. Forget he's well pas 40 and washed up to f*ck for a second, Randall Bailey is one of the hardest punchers of all time, he could seriously f*ck someone up with no gloves.

supremenovice · 15-06-2019 1:34pm

Will this Artem v Paulie fight be aired on TV tonight?

15-06-2019 1:56pm

supremenovice wrote: »

Will this Artem v Paulie fight be aired on TV tonight?

Next week, its ppv only as far as i know and i'm not sure if anyone here carries it. they stream on the website though

supremenovice · 15-06-2019 2:40pm

Paulie is 8/15 to win. That seems incredibly generous based on boxing form. I'd have thought a 1/10 shot.

Ultimate Seduction · 15-06-2019 2:52pm

I'll be suprised if Artem lands 1 punch

yourdeadwright · 15-06-2019 5:06pm

Ultimate Seduction wrote: »

I'll be suprised if Artem lands 1 punch

Paulies last fight he was horrific and that was 2 years ago aginst Eglinton who is a journey man himself , He should win but he will certainly be tested

ASOT · 15-06-2019 10:20pm

Artem is going to win imo. Firas Zahabi has a good video on the fight on his YouTube channel. People are overlooking some of the differences in rules compared to boxing ala the clinch and the fact artem can throw Paulie to the ground and not lose points. Artems made for bare knuckle Paulie's not imo. I think alot of people will be surprised. Or I could be completely wrong. Looking forward to it.

sc86 · 15-06-2019 11:27pm

to watch the i have to buy it via the website only?

simongurnick · 16-06-2019 1:08am

sc86 wrote: »

to watch the i have to buy it via the website only?

Legally, i believe so

Brief_Lives · 18-06-2019 3:15pm

That was brutal to watch...

Ultimate Seduction · 19-06-2019 9:06pm

This is free I presume ?

https://twitter.com/RusHammerMMA/status/1141388452786835457?s=19

fonecrusher1 · 20-06-2019 4:59pm

Sincerely hope Malignaggi gets beaten. Sick of hearing the guy mouthing off.

Johner · 20-06-2019 6:11pm

Ultimate Seduction wrote: »

This is free I presume ?

https://twitter.com/RusHammerMMA/status/1141388452786835457?s=19

It's on Eir Sports 2 in Ireland

Live BKFC 6 - Malignaggi v Lobov (BKFC)
Sunday, 02:00 - 05:00 (3 hours)
Former boxing world champion Paulie Malignaggi and former UFC star Artem Lobov will Knuckle Up to settle the score in a true test of Boxing vs. MMA.

Outlaw Pete · 21-06-2019 2:49am

Man Vs ManUre · 21-06-2019 9:14pm

Will the Artem v Pauli fight be on YouTube is Sunday morning?? This is probably only way I can get to see it.

normanoffside · 21-06-2019 11:01pm

I don't understand how 2 year retired Paulie Maliaggi (beaten up by bum Sam Eggington in his last fight) vs Non Boxer Artem Lobov in a sport (not Boxing) gets it's own thread in this forum.
Lots of top fights just go into mega threads.
This is not boxing. This is not relevant. This Should be moved to MMA or whatever. Whatever the result of this 'fight' it means nothing. People shouldn't be giving it oxygen.

Outlaw Pete · 21-06-2019 11:17pm

The thread is not about just one fight, read the OP, it's about the sport in general, this bout is the first one to really get a lot of attention, could be the last, who knows.

Can't wait for this, hope it's a good fight and of course Artem wins.

The clinch and dirty boxing rules give him a chance where I think otherwise he wouldn't have one.

ASOT · 21-06-2019 11:18pm

normanoffside wrote: »

I don't understand how 2 year retired Paulie Maliaggi (beaten up by bum Sam Eggington in his last fight) vs Non Boxer Artem Lobov in a sport (not Boxing) gets it's own thread in this forum.
Lots of top fights just go into mega threads.
This is not boxing. This is not relevant. This Should be moved to MMA or whatever. Whatever the result of this 'fight' it means nothing. People shouldn't be giving it oxygen.

Rabble rabble rabble rabble get over it mate, if it bothers you that much don't click into the thread. Simple really.

normanoffside · 21-06-2019 11:34pm

ASOT wrote: »

Rabble rabble rabble rabble get over it mate, if it bothers you that much don't click into the thread. Simple really.

Sorry, it bothers me because it is unregulated irrelevant rubbish. It's sad. Paulie shouldn't be 'fighting' any more and Artem probably shouldn't either. Paulie particularly needs to cop on before he gets brain damage.
It's not a proper sport and I don't see what it brings apart from a paycheck. It reminds me of Ali getting beat up by Berbick, voyeur stuff.

Gonad · 21-06-2019 11:39pm

Eir sport 2 I believe are showing this

Macdarack · 22-06-2019 7:46am

What's the general opinion on the Paulie Artem fight? I can't see Paulie inflicting any damage on Artem during this toe to toe slug fest. Maybe in a boxing match Paulie may have a chance as he's more technical but here that won't cut it, this is close your eyes and brawl.

but1er · 22-06-2019 7:54am

Gonad wrote: »

Eir sport 2 I believe are showing this

You are correct

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